Yfw Bungie dies this year

Samuel Barnes
Samuel Barnes

Activision user telling us "i-its doing fine, 100 gorrillion players by jaunuary!" again when?

For comparison to the last time an always online "AAA" game with rng loot was in this situation.

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Lucas Kelly
Lucas Kelly

It's about time Bungie was put out of its misery anyway.

Sebastian Brooks
Sebastian Brooks

Good riddance, Bungie ruined FPS games for everyone with muh Halo.

Kayden Morgan
Kayden Morgan

What are you talking about? Studios nowadays don't die if they fail, even if they fail twice.
They remain undead for future use.

Jack Powell
Jack Powell

Not with their new contract. They only get a percentage of total post launch profit and the rest goes to activision. Ever wonder why Eververse became the focus? because thats Bungies sole income now. They literally need Destiny 2 cash shop whales to stay alive. Without them they are only operating at a loss until the next retail release in september.

They went full greed and lost.

Angel Murphy
Angel Murphy

Activision user
He must be hanging from a ceiling somewhere.

Ryder Phillips
Ryder Phillips

He doesn't exist. OP just likes to pretend someone is more obsessed with Destiny than him.

John Walker
John Walker

You know there's something oddly sad about both Bungie and 343i both being husks pretending to be what they once were.
Say what you want about halo, it being slow and all, two weapons kind of being lame. As far as a casual arena shooter it was decent.
It's a real shame that it was slowly eaten from the inside out by microsoft until it was finally empty.

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Adrian Hughes
Adrian Hughes

the funniest thing about this is that dumping even free copies of D2 wouldn't prop up its player numbers. They did what they did in D1 where the base game is basically unplayable once DLC comes out, because everything other than the basic story missions gets levelbumped to a level you can't get without buying the DLC.

Charles Campbell
Charles Campbell

Unless you think OP is that activision user, he did exist, because I saw him shilling up a storm many months ago.
I work at activision and let me tell you idiots, destiny 2 is selling hot shit, bigger than D1, massive success, you'll see
paraphrased through many thousands of words over dozens of posts in at least a handful of threads.

Xavier Sullivan
Xavier Sullivan

No there was one and boy did he shill like he had his life savings on the line.
He also avatarfagged.

Jaxon Rivera
Jaxon Rivera

Bungie "died" when it was acquired by Microsoft.

Nathan Brown
Nathan Brown

Bungie haven't made a good game since Marathon

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Gabriel Thomas
Gabriel Thomas

It was actually because they couldn't make content fast enough for activision so they had to re negotiate the terms to having 2 DLCs a year and microtransactions.
It was bungies Idea to put them in.

Levi Williams
Levi Williams

Halo
Arena shooter
Oh for fuck's sake not this again. We went over this in the other thread and it's not an arena fps and neither is overwatch.

Gavin Ward
Gavin Ward

It arguably was better off and that's real sad.
Alright what is this about?

Christopher Brown
Christopher Brown

start developing D1
halfway through development scrap everything and start from scratch
game comes out with little to no content

start developing D2
same shit happens and they again restart from scratch halfway through
game comes out with little to no content

Whoever is in charge of Bungie can't manage for shit.

Tyler Adams
Tyler Adams

Overwatch is a parallel to halo
Are you retarded or something?

Ethan Hill
Ethan Hill

HALO HAS ALWAYS BEEN A SHIT GAME FOR ADHD RIDDEN TEENAGERS

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Liam Gutierrez
Liam Gutierrez

Some autist in another thread was arguing that Halo and Overmeme were arenafps. I assumed it was him again.

Lincoln Wood
Lincoln Wood

Halo
ADHD
Slow multiplayer

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Austin Miller
Austin Miller

but halo is painfully slow

Logan White
Logan White

Guaranteed replies with the first 5 seconds of posting.

Joseph Davis
Joseph Davis

Halo and Overmeme were arenafps
Are you fucking me?

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Liam Lopez
Liam Lopez

you're in an arena
and it's an fps

Why exactly is it wrong?

Robert Butler
Robert Butler

What's wrong with halo? I thought it was pretty fun up until past reach

Oliver Lewis
Oliver Lewis

Thats a dude

Luke Jackson
Luke Jackson

No, I get how in a modern sense Halo would play more similarily to Overwatch since they took basically all the free-for-all modes out of the matchmade multiplayer and made it a pain in the ass to actually play custom games because it's bad for server activity metrics, but honestly, you would have to be silly to not be able to recognize the obvious difference between a sluggish shitfest arena fps and what is pretty patently obviously a team based Objective shooter.

Caleb Barnes
Caleb Barnes

people think it "killed" fps games, or at least a certain style of them. They're wrong completely, because Half Life did that several years before Halo

Jaxson White
Jaxson White

I know it's shocking.
I wasn't the one arguing for this shit. I'll see if I can find the thread in the catalog but it was a stupidly off-topic argument and I'm not sure which one it was in. Was only like two days ago though, maybe yesterday.
It's a casualised FPS designed primarily for consoles that started the decline of the genre. Even when you ignore what it started it's thoroughly average and the SP is repetitive trash.

Angel Thomas
Angel Thomas

Wouldn't bargain bin games be the most played games though?

Brandon Williams
Brandon Williams

Somebody give me a definition of "arena FPS" please.
Don't be a cuck, stand for your beliefs.
I want to see how you can muddy the phrase "arena fps" to mean "fps games i like but not fps games i don't like"

Julian Rogers
Julian Rogers

This is sealed stock clearance.

Camden Ross
Camden Ross

Arena-fps has to have at the very least:
movement tech
guns/powerups spawning in the map to a timer
no class system

David Powell
David Powell

So…Halo?

Adam Mitchell
Adam Mitchell

Halo
Movement tech

Henry White
Henry White

did halo have a timer for weapons/movement tech?

Liam Perez
Liam Perez

Or if you want to be even more simple you gotta go fast.

Dylan Gonzalez
Dylan Gonzalez

Technically you have to be propelled by a slope or an explosion, but yes, halo did have movement tech

Camden Thompson
Camden Thompson

i have never played halo before

Adrian Brown
Adrian Brown

Halo fulfills 2/3 of those.
Yes, until Halo 4. Halo Reach also gave you different loadouts, but that was only for specific game modes.

Blake Carter
Blake Carter

In addition to what said.
The only part people play anymore is the multiplayer
Multiplayer-focused
Singleplayer Bots

Caleb Smith
Caleb Smith

It's still missing 1/3 and those were literally the first three that came to mind. There's much more to the genre that but it's not really something I've got a list for off the top of my head.
Played it plenty.
The occasional movement trick is not the same as a genre based entirely around your movement tech.

Sebastian Jenkins
Sebastian Jenkins

movement systems are the critical element in what makes an arena fps
Nah mate you're just saying whatever you need to say in order to separate your nostalgia games from someone else nostalgia games when they're just fps games with different execution of gameplay

How pathetic and small.

Jose Hernandez
Jose Hernandez

Nah mate you're just saying whatever you need to say in order to separate your nostalgia games from someone else nostalgia games when they're just fps games with different execution of gameplay
Halo and Quake III play nothing alike.

Josiah Powell
Josiah Powell

Technically, it applies to all game modes and is pretty much crucial to having an advantage. I mean what you're saying is similar to saying Quake isn't movement based because you have to take advantage of certain things in order to make use of movement techniques.

Joshua Mitchell
Joshua Mitchell

In Quake its pretty much impossible to play without properly strafing. Seriously go try it and come back to me.

Chase Cooper
Chase Cooper

Are you actually trying to say you can play Halo without properly strafing? Are you retarded or something?

Lucas Nguyen
Lucas Nguyen

They've got the exact same mechanical basis, just one moves slow instead of fast, unless you're in a vehicle a la Unreal Tournament. Is Unreal Tournament not an Arena FPS?
Is Quake 3 the only Arena FPS in existence?

Samuel Turner
Samuel Turner

Yes they do, both of them are FPS shooters with all the categories that you asked for.
The only difference being how fast the players move and map design.
It's like saying witcher 3 and skyrim aren't both rpgs because they have different gameplay.
They're both fucking rpgs with different execution.

you haven't played halo, i now fully know that you're lying out your arsehole if you can type something like this unironically.

Angel Sullivan
Angel Sullivan

You can play halo just fine as a slow as shit game.
They've got the exact same mechanical basis, just one moves slow instead of fast,
Even if this were true and Halo was a slow arena fps it would be a terrible arena fps because its a genre about going fast. Regenerating health (shields are this by another name) is also a terrible fit with a genre where you should have to rely on picking things up.
Is Quake 3 the only Arena FPS in existence?
unless you're in a vehicle a la Unreal Tournament. Is Unreal Tournament not an Arena FPS?
Unreal is an Arenafps yes. Also things like Xonotic though its loosely based on quake.

Camden Cruz
Camden Cruz

he doesn't even know the shield/health bullet/energy dynamic in halo
calls it terrible
this is why I can't take you autists seriously.

William Green
William Green

you haven't played halo, i now fully know that you're lying out your arsehole if you can type something like this unironically.
In every instance I played halo nobody was doing that shit. All just waddling around like toddlers. Nothing that comes even close to this.
It's like saying witcher 3 and skyrim aren't both rpgs because they have different gameplay.
False analogy. Halo and Quake III are both fpses (same genre like Witcher and Skyrim are RPGs) but different sub-genres. Fucking battlefields is still an FPS but clearly a different sub-genre to either.

Christopher Gomez
Christopher Gomez

The argument wasn't "is Halo a fast Arena FPS" it was "is Halo an Arena FPS". Glad you've conceded our point. Halo 1 and Halo Reach also have fixed health alongside regenerating shields.

Michael Cruz
Michael Cruz

The argument wasn't "is Halo a fast Arena FPS" it was "is Halo an Arena FPS"
I already told you they aren't really arenafps but yes I don't have a proper definition. However even if you think halo comes under my half-assed 5 minute definition its clearly a bad arena fps so its shit either way.
Halo 1 and Halo Reach also have fixed health alongside regenerating shields.
Shields are functionally just health with a different name.

Juan Carter
Juan Carter

Arena usually means a small, often symettrical map style based for close combat in the middle with 'sniper lanes' around the outside.

Halo has game modes for that but also big team battle.

William Johnson
William Johnson

How about we play a better game. Find me a video of halo comparable to this and we'll continue this argument.

William Adams
William Adams

can't even bunny hop
people are saying Halo has "movement systems"
Hopping in a gravity lift isn't a "movement system".

Samuel Turner
Samuel Turner

You can bunny hop though.

Gabriel Cox
Gabriel Cox

the SP is repetitive trash.
You could say that about any game though, I personally liked the story and that's what compelled me to keep playing. It's like saying Call of Duty 1 is a bad game because all you do is shoot.
I played Half life 1 recently actually, I don't get the hype, it's ok. It's sort of like quake but I don't know just weird.
implying that gameplay even looked remotely enjoyable

Grayson Robinson
Grayson Robinson

No they aren't. You can have full shields but low health, or vice versa. Energy weapons do a lot of damage to shields, but don't do a lot of damage to health, bullets do the opposite. It's more like a regenerating armor bar then health, in some ways.
In what way? They both have the same basic gameplay flow. You spawn with the same weapons your enemy does, you try and reach respawning, fixed weapon spawns, you maintain control of the map to deny your enemy as much as possible whilst shooting and killing them. The pace is slower, the map is more vertical, and there's more hitscan weapons, but from a game design perspective it's built off the same groundwork. Games like Call of Duty or Insurgency by contrast, are structured to play completely differently even before movement and weapon design is taken into account.

Easton Jenkins
Easton Jenkins

Hey, Oni was pretty good. But then again, it was made by a different team.

Jace Bell
Jace Bell

crouch jumping is the same as bunny hopping
This is what Halo has done to the FPS community in the past 20 years.

Kayden Rogers
Kayden Rogers

That's not what I said, and you're aware sage isn't for downvoting right?

Xavier Baker
Xavier Baker

What? No, you cannot accelerate your movement by jumping in Halo. Hell, you can't even go the same speed, jumping makes you go slower.

Luis Garcia
Luis Garcia

<You can play halo just fine as a slow as shit game.
Not an argument.
<its a genre about going fast.
implying you mentioned speed in your criteria for an arena fps
implying you can't go fast in halo if you don't know how

<Regenerating health (shields are this by another name) is also a terrible fit with a genre where you should have to rely on picking things up.
what are energy weapons
implying regenerating health moves a game from one genre to the next

<In every instance I played halo nobody was doing that shit. All just waddling around like toddlers.
you can trust me
posts video by a person who has been playing for years and years and clearly has practice
Yea because i'm sure noobs just pick up and play like that right out of the gate my man.

<False analogy.
No it's not.
<Halo and Quake III are both fpses
Correct.
<same genre like Witcher and Skyrim are RPGs
Correct.
<but different sub-genres.
Incorrect, skyrim is not an RPGFPS because it has 3rd person and it isn't centered around the FPS aspect nor is it a shooter although it is a component.
Jrpgs are separate from western rpgs because jrpgs are shit and gay, not because they have different gameplay.

So by your logic, fallout and skyrim are a different sub genre because a gameplay element is different even though the game plays effectively the same (im picking firearms in this case) ,
Fallout having guns turns fallout into a Grpg (gun rpg) and if you dare mis-genre my favourite autism game then you better watch the fuck out.

or maybe an fps is just an fps and a rpg is just an rpg and your pathetic attempts to muddy the water so you can say cringe inducing retard shit like "nah man i only play arena fps it's where the real skill is not like these crappy modern games not like those other fps games man"

<but yes I don't have a proper definition
spends his time arguing about definitions of a genre that has no fucking definitions so he can feel superior for playing a better genre

doesn't define speed as an element of arena fps
now arena fps are defines solely by speed

exploiting physics bugs in a buggy physics engine is actually a gameplay mechanic we swear guys
being a Source-drone

sages a thread he's taking part in

and you realise that's an engine bug not an intended mechanic of the game?

Gavin Murphy
Gavin Murphy

Post a video of bunny hopping in Halo, then. Also, if you think I'm downvoting you, then you're even more retarded than I thought. If you're trying to win the argument by making me stop talking to you in disgust, then it's working.

Liam Ward
Liam Ward

prove it

Lincoln Gutierrez
Lincoln Gutierrez

and you realise that's an engine bug not an intended mechanic of the game?
Without even touching the rest of this autism it was originally a bug but has long since become a gameplay feature.

Eli Baker
Eli Baker

two people are mad at me for saging their precious Halo thread
Are you gonna post some videos of these "movement systems" or not?

Isaac Brooks
Isaac Brooks

Moving Forward or backwards decellerates or accelerates you to normal walking speed if you're going sideways you don't lose any speed barring friction from touching the floor, which is reduced while considered being pushed any force.

James Brooks
James Brooks

xonotic is fucking garbge compared to sauerbraten

Sebastian Hall
Sebastian Hall

I don't get the hype
for '99 it was pretty big, that and it started the whole storyfag thing in fps games, which is where a lot of the arena niggers get upset about since they want multiplayer only focused games in that genre

Aiden Ramirez
Aiden Ramirez

You could say that about any game though
Seriously? All games with single player are repetitive trash now? What are you, a Communist or something? I actually think that Halo's saving grace is the single player thanks entirely to the AI Why do so many games have totally worthless AI and co op, but man some of you folks really know how to make yourselves sound retarded.
it's a bug tho
So was skiing in Tribes and yet that also became the defining movement mechanic in the franchise. Did you have a point? Are you really implying that Quake being good is an accident now?
So you can only bunny hop while being pushed? Try using punctuation, I can barely make out what you just said.

Nathaniel Clark
Nathaniel Clark

Post the video.

Nathan Jackson
Nathan Jackson

Yes, but be aware being "pushed" includes anything from touching an angle more than 30 degrees in level geometry to touching any vehicle that is technically in motion which would include someone sitting in a non moving vehicle.

Luis Powell
Luis Powell

<it was originally a bug but has long since become a gameplay feature.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HA HHA AH AH AH AH AH AHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA AH AH AH AH HA HA A HA
pic related you stupid motherfucker holy crap.

I hate halo but i hate people like you more.
Also arguing that "movement systems = going really fast" That's pretty high iq my friend.

Only correct opinion in this thread.

are you going to tell me that X being [subjective opinion] was actually by accident are you?

Yes i am.

I never said i was going to post the video and your lame as fuck attempt to box me into a corner by shifting the goalposts from 3 different subjects that made an arena fps into 1 subject that is solely responsible for creating an arena fps are fucking pathetic

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Christopher Morris
Christopher Morris

Even better

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William Johnson
William Johnson

Ah, okay. So you can get a speed boost by jumping off downslopes and vehicles then. Coincidentally that sounds similar to Tribes which I mentioned in my last post. Wish I would have known that when I was actually playing Halo when it was new. However, typically bunny hopping implies that there is something inherent to jumping or air control which allows you to gain speed, not just reduce friction.

Camden Evans
Camden Evans

still doesn't have any videos of these "movement systems" he's talking about

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John Reyes
John Reyes

He's so fucking defensive that he can't even admit Quake is a good game
Acting like a complete idiot doesn't help your case, friend.

Michael Perez
Michael Perez

By his logic, combos in fighting games are stupid bugs and should be removed.
We're dealing with an S-class retard here.

Colton Reyes
Colton Reyes

Here's the thing, jumping causes you to stop losing speed from the friction of the ground. It's just weird since if you hit forwards or backwards you lose the reduced friction of being "pushed"

Jacob Young
Jacob Young

If you've got proof of Halo having quake-equivalent movement tech post proof. If not shut up and fuck off. I've posted my proof.

Adam Brooks
Adam Brooks

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Angel Gonzalez
Angel Gonzalez

<Are you really implying that Quake being good is an accident now?
<it was originally a bug but has long since become a gameplay feature

implying the question of "is quake a good game" was ever asked to me at any point during this thread
implying you're not pulling random shit out your arse to fight me with because you want to protect your nostalgia baby

just gonna copy paste what i said last time

I never said i was going to post the video and your lame as fuck attempt to box me into a corner by shifting the goalposts from 3 different subjects that made an arena fps into 1 subject that is solely responsible for creating an arena fps are fucking pathetic

bunny hopping is the sole element which makes an arena fps
typically
So you just admitted that it's not how it's always done but the next thing you say in your post is that it has to be done a certain way in order to be considered true bhopping

That's totally what i said, my dude.

YOU GAVE THE DEFINITIONS FOR AN ARENA FPS
IT MUST HAVE A """"""MOVEMENT SYSTEM""""""
IT MUST HAVE RESPAWNING WEAPONS AND PICKUPS
IT MUST HAVE NO CLASS SYSTEM.

YOU HAVE NOW DECIDED TO IGNORE THE OTHER TWO ARGUMENTS YOU MADE BECAUSE YOU LOST AND NOW HAVE TO PRETEND LIKE THE ONLY QUALIFYING THING FOR AN ARENA FPS IS YOUR VAGUE AS FUCK """"""MOVEMENT SYSTEM"""""".

THAT WASN'T ORIGINALLY YOUR CRITERIA FOR IT BEING AN ARENA FPS.

YOU DISINGENUOUS CUNT.

Ayden Stewart
Ayden Stewart

I remember reading that Activision recently defaulted on some loan and are now billions in debt. Wouldn't surprise me if such compromising information was purged from the internet.

Logan Phillips
Logan Phillips

How does a game company become BILLIONs in debt? that sounds like bullshit.

Liam Nguyen
Liam Nguyen

By expecting every one of their games to bigger than the last, I'd imagine. They wanted Destiny to be the new WoW.

Alexander Ross
Alexander Ross

ywn be this mad about Halo not being an arena shooter
Damn son I like halo and you're making us all look bad.

Daniel Bailey
Daniel Bailey

It's a good thing i don't like halo and i think it's a shit game.

Josiah Rivera
Josiah Rivera

by spending far more on advertising than what their games sell for and hoping season passes and 'funpay minibuys' cover the red.

Zachary Reed
Zachary Reed

Are you off your meds, user?

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Jack Hernandez
Jack Hernandez

halo was unironically good.

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David Baker
David Baker

type in caps because im mad and he needs to understand in the most simplest of terms why he's a shitter
wow you must be mad XD
while saging the thread

Yea i of course i'm mad you fucking idiot people have been riling me up with their shit opinions and need to over classify game genres so they can feel like they belong in a special club.

Isaiah Smith
Isaiah Smith

people here actually prefer multiplayer to story based games
It is a fun game though but like most shooters for me atleast I can play them for a while and then get bored because shooters are mostly go here and shoot, go there and shoot.
Seriously? All games with singleplayer are repetitive trash now?
I meant shooter games but my point does stand, a lot of games are very repetitive, not so much trash but repetitive. For me, the only thing that keeps me playing is an interesting story, if I'm not interested I'll be bored.

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Jace Lopez
Jace Lopez

Half-Life doesn't hold up. I used to like it a lot, but not so much anymore. I think people were impressed by how Black Mesa explodes in the beginning and how you can interact with the nerds. The level design is completely retarded.

Lincoln Bennett
Lincoln Bennett

yfw mr. bungle died 2 decades ago

Colton Perez
Colton Perez

[subjective opinion]
As if. There's mainstream or popular opinions and then there are things which all of society agrees upon which then become objective. Murder is wrong, steak should be eaten medium rare or rarer and Quake is good. It is known.

I don't really consider games with good level design to be repetitive. Good storytelling is even rarer than competent design in games so I tend not to look for it.

Nathan Garcia
Nathan Garcia

I don't really consider games with good level design to be repetitive.
Im trying to understand what you mean here.
You know repetitive isn't a personal preference? If a game has good level design it can STILL be repetitive even if you don't "consider" it that way.

It would have made more sense for you to say "good level design isn't repetitive"

Jace Parker
Jace Parker

quake champions: 500 players
Quake live: 500 players
Reflex Arena: 30 players
Lelbreakers: 2 players

Arena FPS is shit, that's why none plays. It died with Quake 3. Deal with it.

hurr you need skills
You need skill to play any kind of PvP multiplayer game (except moba), this is no excuse.

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Joseph Mitchell
Joseph Mitchell

That is one cozy doggo

Kayden Gomez
Kayden Gomez

nice shitpost, i like how you dispense little truths with the lies in order to make your shitpost come off as more genuine

Bentley Baker
Bentley Baker

Well, a good level set isn't a group of similar levels. Even if they're good, you have to at least space them out amongst other types of levels. It depends on what you consider repetitive in games. Is Mario Party not repetitive because it has like a hundred minigames? I think most people would agree that it is kinda repetitive.

Julian Myers
Julian Myers

I think mario party is the most mind numbing shit i've ever seen next to any of those shitty Wii sports games.
And i don't think it's fair to count mario parties minigames as levels, i'd argue that a mini-game…uhh…game… and a normal…game… are two different beasts.

Nathan Ross
Nathan Ross

Even before Microsoft bought Bungie Halo was designed around having an enormous open world with vehicles and large battlefields. It was never supposed to be an arena type shooter and the focus on multiplayer came later. So it's a weird hybrid of the two genres with some later games being more focused on it.

I'm guessing their projection for esports becoming bigger than actual sports among the lucrative youth demographic didn't pan out. About 2 years ago many companies were saying that this was going to happen and invested heavily in that scene. Hell even the corrupt olympics keeps talking about including video games as it's the only way to bring in a younger audience.

Jeremiah Hill
Jeremiah Hill

Actually that's true, if i remember correctly, there WILL be esports in either the next Olympics, or the one after that.

It's so cringe inducing imagining all those Athletes having worked like absolute cunts doing intense physical their entire lives for a single shot at winning a gold medal and some dickhead who sat around in a chair all day and became autistically in love with a game to the point where he "mastered" it are going to be standing side by side.
Have games tournaments…fine, but not along with one of the oldest physical contests human kind has ever managed to up hold mostly unmolested by our modern standards.

Xavier Morgan
Xavier Morgan

It's a shame that most modern shooters follow the Call of Duty formula rather than the Halo one. Massive battles, vehicle combat, and clearly differentiated enemy types are what we need more of. Sadly, that's absent even in Halo now.

Andrew Wood
Andrew Wood

half-life is the gameplay of quake but with new weapons, interesting enemies, and upgraded into a realistic and believable world. is correct, both half-life and halo worked to destroy the fps genre for their own reasons and people hate them for that but there's nothing wrong with them as games themselves.

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Carson Clark
Carson Clark

Imagine combining Half-Life's interior levels with Halo's outdoor ones. Crawling through ancient industrial ruins, only to emerge in the middle of a massive combined arms battle? I'd buy that game.

Landon Robinson
Landon Robinson

the thing about halo is that unlike cod it follows older fps archetypes with alien enemies that all have a role and use projectile weapons the player can dodge as opposed to forcing them to take cover 24/7 which is garbage, and vehicles are actually fun to drive/use. multiplayer being inspired by arena shooters but with vehicles allowed for much fun to be had with custom games and if it were on PC it would have been solid, which is why i would like to see a more stable population for halo online and halo 2: project cartographer

Jayden Rogers
Jayden Rogers

half-life is the gameplay of quake but with new weapons, interesting enemies, and upgraded into a realistic and believable world.
Half-life is the gameplay of quake but slowed down and casualised yes.

Luke Jackson
Luke Jackson

if we're talking about multiplayer, then you are correct

Easton Allen
Easton Allen

Most projectiles in Halo are a bit difficult to dodge, seeing as they're quite fast, but at least hitscan bullshit is reduced for the most part. However, stuff on the higher difficulties can be just as frustrating. That's mostly due to the fact they dodge every other attack but will stand on top of a grenade though.

Brody Perez
Brody Perez

YOU GAVE THE DEFINITIONS FOR AN ARENA FPS
He said arena FPS must have at least those 3 things.
By your own admission it has only 2.
Therefore it isn't an arena FPS.
Do you know what "at least" means?
His criteria has not changed. You are just retarded. Disagree if you want but it's pretty sad to get this autistic because you cannot read.

Tyler Moore
Tyler Moore

That's a womans ass.

Brody Price
Brody Price

With Bioware getting close to dying, I really can't take anymore of all these companies that i hated (or clearly didn't fall for their decorated trash quality) getting so close to dying. The Halo games although decent games, popularized the horrible console fps and drove the abismal new console fps audience that COD would continue fueling for every pennie. Sure Half-life kind of did the same, but at least it was still a PC FPS, and it didn't fund a kill switch console, nor one of the worst corporate whoring audiences. I see there are xbox enablers here.

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Nathan Richardson
Nathan Richardson

Bioware won't die they'll be kept on life support.

Xavier Bell
Xavier Bell

I sometimes forget bungie don’t make halo anymore.

Jeremiah Cox
Jeremiah Cox

They remain undead for future use.
This. Realistically bungie will be put in charge of making a Call of duty MMO.

Aiden Myers
Aiden Myers

but halo is painfully slow

I used to "warm-up" for Halo 2 with a few rounds of Unreal Championship. Of course, nobody but me played that on Xbox - so I had to play against bots, but even the bots were more of a challenge than most Halo players. I could easily tell a difference with a significantly improved K/D after playing UC than if I'd just gone into a Halo 2 match cold.

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Andrew Parker
Andrew Parker

The guy in charge of creating Destiny 2 multiplayer admitted it was designed for fun twitch viewership first, which they fucked up since not making it fun to play means no one wants to watch it in the first place.

I thought the Olympic committee, being absolute cucks, said no games with guns or violence would ever be considered. Or did the absolute disinterest in the Seoul Olympics change their mind?

Aiden Foster
Aiden Foster

a Call of duty MMO.
It's surprising we've gone this long without one tbh.

Jaxson Moore
Jaxson Moore

Went to Toys R Us to see what's left
<Shit loads of Destiny 2 copies with one copy of Duty Fighter V: Ass-hole Edition nobody ever picked up
Even with a 10% store closing discount, no one wants to touch that turd.

Aaron Parker
Aaron Parker

your face when Bungie dies this years
It's about fucking time and good fucking riddance. This cancerous shit company has been shitting up video games for 16 years now, it's about goddamn time.

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Mason Jenkins
Mason Jenkins

10% store closing discount
That's fucking laughable. Are people actually flocking there and buying things? 10% just brings them down to walmart's prices, maybe not even that far. There's a reason the place is closing.

Chase Harris
Chase Harris

enjoy what Bungie put out over the years
nu-Bungie now on its deathbed
It's about time, with their death the credibility of nu-Halo gets that much more shaken. It shows how much 343 have propped up, dressed and paraded a corpse around for years now with little to show for it

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Lucas Cook
Lucas Cook

The only Halo 343 was involved with (before it became their property) was Reach. You can tell from some of the weapon designs and sound effects they carried over into their games. Also the timing, the way Reach fucked up existing lore, and the fact Bungie didn't want to make Reach but was forced to.

William Myers
William Myers

Shit weapon variety, shit weapon limit, shit health regeneration, shit level design due in part to the enabling effect of health regeneration, shit movement, shitty autoaim that cannot be turned off. Halo is a shitty game that pushed a number of highly cancerous mechanics on the console FPS genre and it never recovered. Halo does not even deserve the excuse of "but it was for consoles", because the console FPS genre had built up a number ideas in the preceding years to make up for the shortcomings of its control scheme and create an experience that could not be had on PC. Hardly a year before Halo's release, this game introduced the FPS world to a wide swath of highly innovative ideas–all of which were ignored and forgotten for the sake of pushing Quake But Really Shitty on console users (and eventually, even PC users) for generations after that.

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Joseph Watson
Joseph Watson

They only took over after the game was released with the "anniversary" map pack and modes for the Halo 1 remake, and some mediocre/godawful changes to the main multiplayer mode. They didn't do shit in the game's development.

Isaac Ortiz
Isaac Ortiz

Officially they didn't, but the claws were already in. There were some downright shitty design decisions that Bungie never would have made alone.

Logan Gomez
Logan Gomez

there will never be a perfect dark tier game ever again
it hurts

Ryan Gray
Ryan Gray

it isn't centered around the FPS aspect
I contest this.

Nathan Taylor
Nathan Taylor

Sure Half-life kind of did the same, but at least it was still a PC FPS
So was Halo. HL2 did come out on consoles. At least Halo was fun to play, though… HL2 was just tedious unfun garbage.

Josiah Wilson
Josiah Wilson

Halo 2 was also briefly on the PC,

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Christopher Morris
Christopher Morris

Halo 2 was also briefly on the PC
It was a full PC release, just nobody played it because it required Vista and Vista was cancer.

Evan Taylor
Evan Taylor

Why are DS4s so cheap in Germany

Easton Barnes
Easton Barnes

That's for the HDMI's in the bin behind them.

Dominic Smith
Dominic Smith

Reminder that Halo is, and always was FUCKING SHIT

Adrian Fisher
Adrian Fisher

Bungie had a good run, but honestly all of their old talent has fled since Destiny 1 came out (rightfully-so) and it's time for them to be put out to pasture.

I feel most-sorry for the Halo fans…

Destiny and Bungie have crashed and burned, you wouldn't even WANT Bungie to come back to the Halo series at this point
343 and Microsoft struggle to maintain the status quo, since Halo 5 was not a big hit, and the Xbox One is floundering against its competitors despite some attempts at improvement in the last few years
MCC is still busted, a patch is supposed to be due sometime this year (fucking FOUR YEARS AFTER LAUNCH) and no sign of a PC port, seeing they were so stingy as to not port Halo 5 in its entirety when they easily could have
no more Halo ports beyond 2 to PC despite the overwhelming demand for it, evident by Halo 1's continued PC popularity, SPV3, Project Cartographer, and ElDewrito.
Halo 6 is nowhere in site, nobody's even really hyped for it anyway

There really is no hope for Halo, no chance in Hell of salvation… and all they had to do was port some more of the Halo games to PC…

Adam Martin
Adam Martin

MCC is still busted, a patch is supposed to be due sometime this year (fucking FOUR YEARS AFTER LAUNCH)
Are you kidding?

Kevin Flores
Kevin Flores

No, I'm not kidding.

https:pleaseusearchive/www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/news/mcc-development-update-2

Grayson Hill
Grayson Hill

I've never, left, user.

Destiny 2 did have strong initial sales, user; #2 selling game in 2017 in fact. Problem is, players realized there was no endgame they were right and retention has been shit. So it made good cash initially and beat most projections, but later failed the longterm projections if that makes sense.

he avatarfagged

Wasn't me. There are a few people who claim to be or are Activision-user, and some of them are legit.

Since I've got a few minutes after my workout, let's clarify some shit as usual.

Bungie's about to go out of business

Nope. They've got a big warchest and aren't in danger of going under. But if that big Destiny DLC in the fall doesn't sell at all, things might get complicated.

everyone from old Bungie is gone

A few, sure. They have a lot of employees who have been there for decades. They brag about it internally a lot.

Detiny is dying, etc

Numbers are pretty bad right now, yeah. A bit like in Destiny 1 before taken kangz. Community sentiment is improving, though. WHich could be because people are leaving, haha

activision-user chokes on dicks all day and will hang himself

it's a job, anons. I don't even play destiny 2. if they lay us off, whatever, I'll get another job. And no, we don't market here. I've never heard of anyone actually getting paid to shill here. there's just no return on that investment, even if it's some pajeet making $1.50 an hour to shitpost.

And have some other tidbits

Overwatch is doing worse than people think and its esports push didn't do what we wanted

Anthem is going to crash and burn and we're not scared of it at all. Most of what they showed at e3 last year was faked footage they used from an internal greenlight pitch from 2016.

Jonathan Gomez
Jonathan Gomez

Quake Champions
Reflex Arena
Stopped reading there.

Connor Diaz
Connor Diaz

Jesus you came back to shill.

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Easton Baker
Easton Baker

Don't do drugs, you uppity cunt.

Ryan Hernandez
Ryan Hernandez

if that big Destiny DLC in the fall doesn't sell at all, things might get complicated.
Why are they wasting their time and money on fixing D2 when most of the devs are working on D3?

Overwatch is doing worse than people think and its esports push didn't do what we wanted
Richard Lewis said it countless times. The Overcucks esports scene is a joke because Blizzard is a control-freak and jewy company. Jeff Kaplan's safe space gig is a big problem for the game because it's "no fun allowed", he has people spying on esports players to see if they're "toxic" on social media or anywhere on the internet.

Justin Rogers
Justin Rogers

Also I forgot to ask: what's the general opinion of Kaplan at Acti?

Mason Jenkins
Mason Jenkins

You're all wrong, it was CS. Just look at how many ignoranuses still play it.

Owen Ortiz
Owen Ortiz

The worse it gets for the Activision user, the better.

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Zachary Brooks
Zachary Brooks

But they only play simulator games in Germany, of course nobody is playing Destiny.

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Samuel Hall
Samuel Hall

That first line
It hurts. It really hurts. All the good people are probably gone anyway.

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Charles Wright
Charles Wright

No class system
Nigga, the guns you pick up defines your class/role

Halo 3 had the X button effects, so… yes?

Jason King
Jason King

Bungie is just a name now, like Bioware or Infinity Ward.

Halo 6 is nowhere in site, nobody's even really hyped for it anyway
It will be announced at E3 this year. I hope they get rid of Brian Reed after H6 and give the keys to Staten so he can craft a new trilogy with a new set of characters.
MCC is still busted, a patch is supposed to be due sometime this year (fucking FOUR YEARS AFTER LAUNCH) and no sign of a PC port
They managed to convice Microsoft to give them a team dedicated to patching the MCC. I really hope that they use that opportunity to announce a PC version that isn't Win10 exclusive.

Joseph Davis
Joseph Davis

Why are they wasting their time and money on fixing D2 when most of the devs are working on D3?
To try and retain a fraction of their hemorrhaging community goodwill. It won't work short of the fall expansion being a literal A Realm Reborn given out for free.

Cooper Brown
Cooper Brown

Myth was good you faggot. If Bungie didn't get CORPED they could have continued to make good games. It's kind of sad because part of the reason they had to join M$ was because they lost a shitload of money recalling copies of Myth due to a bug that would wipe a hard drive if the game was installed in the root directory and then removed using the uninstaller. If not for this they'd probably have made a bunch of neat RTT/RTS games, Halo was going to be a Sci-Fi take on Myth originally.

Brody Clark
Brody Clark

Yeah but it's fucked, they've ignored the community for way too long.
There was "the endgame doesn't matter, it's all about making new friends" when people asked why the game ended with no valuable loot, then there was the EXP cap and the fake numbers, the timed events where players earn a chance to "win" something when they buy an engram with real money… Also there was the "oh we can't be bothered to create new stories, it's too hard" excuse for the lack of content in the expansions, coming from Bungie that's quite the insult to your fanbase and community.
I think the community (or what remains of it) would be ok if they said that they fucked up and they're now hard at work, crafting a new Destiny game that will fix most of the mistakes.

Samuel Bennett
Samuel Bennett

Except I repeatedly say that I don't give a fuck if you buy our games because we don't market here, you fucking mongoloid.

d2 vs d3

Don't know what the teams look like at bungo, user; don't interface with them much. All i've heard is that they pulled people off of d3 to fix d2.

So long as Blizz runs in the black and doesn't fuck up their image (or ours), we don't gaf.

We/bungie don't own the rights to Myth. 2k or Take2 or THQ did through some retarded series of deals. But do you really want a myth game made in CY+3?

Josiah Gonzalez
Josiah Gonzalez

there are faggots near you who photoshop cuck porn into everything
there are faggots near you who have played Halo
Which is worse?

Ayden Ward
Ayden Ward

one has niggers
the other is a fun arena fps
gee I wonder

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Asher Perry
Asher Perry

cuck porn

Ryan Flores
Ryan Flores

I unironically miss Halo. I have it on PC. But it's not the same. Anyone remember Schwinn's alpha on custom edition? That 24/7 server where one CTF match would go on for actual hours were some of the most fun I have ever had in a video game.

Jace Rogers
Jace Rogers

Pic related is IMO the king of console FPS games thanks to its ambitious level design incorporating Metroid style progression and secrets that rely on cool stuff like explosion jumping.

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Jace Reyes
Jace Reyes

at least a guy who likes cuck porn has the potential to not have shit taste in videogames

Landon Turner
Landon Turner

Halo has always been a normalfag gateway into Holla Forums and threads should be bumplocked on sight like with Undertale.

Luis Turner
Luis Turner

Except I repeatedly say that I don't give a fuck if you buy our games because we don't market here, you fucking mongoloid.
Keep shilling.

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Christian Taylor
Christian Taylor

I imagine people just keep repeating other people's opinions they agree with until they're dead,

Jason Thomas
Jason Thomas

you'll never play the cool technomagic FPS RPG Destiny was planned to be
feels bad

Angel Parker
Angel Parker

all of the halo games are unironically good. its a good series. even like the worst parts of a halo game are way better a lot of fps series. the only reason people on Holla Forums say they don't like it is to feel cool and brag. halo 4 even with its flaws isn't even actually bad and its easily the worst of the series.

Hudson Murphy
Hudson Murphy

Without spoilers, how does Reach fuck up the lore?

Also, I want to get back into halo, but I need the order in which to read the books/play the games, I swear there was a nice collage that helped you out, anyone got it?

Sebastian Ward
Sebastian Ward

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