What does Holla Forums think of sex work/porn/prostitution etc? Should it legal...

What did he mean by this? Literally, in a non-meme way

All sex positivity is connected to porn. It's male gaze by another name.

Because it's exploitative and degrading?

go back to plebbit

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He meant that biology ain't real and the only reason the Navy seals have more men than women it's only because of socially imposed constructs of gender.

what if i like that?

You mean like all work under capitalism?

You have some serious issues if you get off to hurting and degrading people. Please seek help

Gender is a spook.

Sex is good, not immoral, not something we should ban. Gender is made up and if you want to follow that bullshit that's on you.

Porn isn't even inherently capitalist. What if it is free and made because the person in the porn is an exhibitionist?

Full legalization, fuck the Scandinavian model. The only leftist position is treating sex work like any other form of work.

Opposition to letting sex workers do their job is paternalistic arrogance and reactionary puritanism.

Lose some weight Dworkin

I want it decriminalized, but I don't want it legalized as a business venture. I'd be worried of some dystopian future where now it's illegal to sell your sex unless you work for some company that gives you server wage plus tips to fuck. Capitalists would find a way to exploit it if they could, just like they're already doing with weed in the places it's legal.

Yes, but prostitution is even more so.

Culture is biology?

Idpol is cancer, but sex does not equal gender. Gender is only how society perceives you, while gender identity is how you want to be percived by society.

Although most people have both the gender and gender identity that match the sex.

Work should be abolished.

You people like getting off to castration fantasies but I don't make issue with it, dont tread on me

But seriously, I'm not, but porn doesn't hurt anyone especially drawn/non commercial porn which is the best kind anyway

Because you say it is? Many with experience in sex work and non sexual forms of work vehemently disagree. Who are you to put your opinion over their experiences?

Various retired porn actresses have given account of terrible abuse abd hatred of women, that is the rule, not the execption.

especially drawn/non commercial porn which is the best kind anyway

Biology shapes culture.
Deal with it.

Yeah I'm sure it's way worse than working at Foxconn.

Sex workers have an extremely high rate of PTSD and other such disorder, being a wagecuck sucks, but not nearly as much as being a hooker.

All those happy hookers you see spouted on the internet are NOT representative of most sex workers.

yeah because of capitalism. and also you just ignored half of my argument.

Enforcing gender is more like, culture trying to shape biology.

I want to improve the conditions of foxconn workers as well. What's your point.

Well not so much enforcing as, pushing.

Not that far off actually. The porn industry porky is one of the worst bosses you can have with how much abuse and pressure he can pile on you with no consequences.
Read Chris Hedges.

So why don't you say: "factories are inherently exploitative and degrading etc etc" when everything is under capitalism. Under socialism it would be a completely different paradigm.

Oh wait

you're a liberal, that explains it

Will I or will I not be allowed to sell or give out for free post-currency, my body, in your utopia? This is a freedom I very much desire.

I did.

Yeah, you are right bruh.
The effects of testosterone and progesterone on the brain are just culture trying to shape biology.

IF I HEAR THE WORD 'SCANDINAVIAN MODEL' OR 'SCANDINAVIAN SOCIALISM' ONE MORE GODDAMN TIME

I have nothing against casual sex, if thats what you're saying

You should

These things have nothing to do with each other

only if we're talking about the industry, amateur porn would become the norm under socialism

just make all sex illegal problem solved.

Edgy

This is why I seized this meme. I was saying gender is a social construct and everyone is using it to say that transgender people are a spook lol

sauce

Trannies are really fucking spooked though

Spooked because cultural concepts of gender existing make them think acting a certain way requires them to use hormones. Like who fucking cares, wear a dress and have an adam's apple

And these effects are really everything we in the west would call gender traits? I don't get how we can be naturally predisposed to artificial constructs like writing styles in films.

Even in a post-money fully communist society there would still be certain types of people who would seek out and find -something- scarce they can trade sex for. I've met people who have camwhored for cosmetic items in a video game.

Sod off Lola is a great song.

no idea i just grabbed a random from my picture folder sorry

No.
If they're not hurting anyone. Let people do what. Anyone who disagrees is a filthy authoritarian.

Major reason why I still havent killed myself tbh.

what they want, I mean.

considering that we have this thread every day i suggest we ban 9 out of 10 of those people for a month each so they can lurk moar and form an informed opinion so next time they start a thread they can at least give the indication of some sort of thought process that contributes to the already known arguments.

then you need to read Lacan

Spotted the TERF. Every single SWERF turns out to be a fucking transphobe. Youre an outdated pariah who is (rightfully) not tolerated by any relevant communist or feminist movement.

Trust this guy, he's a Maoist, he knows exactly what being outdated and irrelevant islike

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No trade → no prostitution.

If people want to film themselves and share the video, that is their problem.

So the sex workers have to constantly buy more bodies to sell in order to remain in business? That's pretty fucking brutal.

But there are others who enjoyed the work, no?

There are actual Maoist movements and fights going on right now in the world. Good luck seeing anarcho-communism realized anytime soon

how does it feel to have a dogshit taste in women

Source, I heard in one of his EGS lectures that he doesn't mind if there are actually women who enjoy prostitution as some kind of fetish.

kek

Let me guess, Heterosexuality is the only non-spooked position?

Also you JUST know is into some gangbang hardcore shit.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reification_(Marxism)

I like the talk over """sex work""" because it does an amazing job of exposing so-called leftists as the flaming liberals they really are.

Why?

Libertinism ≠ liberalism

Hence why it needs to stay illegal.