Let's see, what are the good qualities of motorcycles?
Not these things, they guzzle gas almost as badly as trucks.
Not a Harley, you could probably buy two economy cars for the price of one hog.
Not these, I've heard driving a Harley compared to driving a bouncing old sofa down the road
Nope, they'll break in a stiff wind.
They'll cost you an arm, a leg and the soul of your firstborn child.
If you consider aging corporate suits going through a mid-life crisis and overweight flag waving REMF """veterans""" cool, sure.
Is Harley-Davidson the ultimate counter to the argument that the best products/companies rise to the top under capitalism?
Sebastian Taylor
It sounds like they're the macs of motorcycles
Levi Richardson
I think you're on the wrong board m8
Jordan Diaz
Read the whole post.
Ayden Sullivan
It's what happens to any product. A product being 'the best' is not because of product quality, but how well it fares in competition.
Blake Richardson
What do you mean at the top? Harley doesnt sell even half of what japanese or chinese brands do
Cameron Nelson
Well I'm a dickhead
Cameron Perry
The problem is that social status is equally valid in the market as practical goods. That's why you have shitty brands with good marketing that do better than their competitors. Apple, Harley-Davidson, Starbucks, 90% of fast-food, so on and so forth. This isn't a problem with Capitalism. It's a problem with vanity. Value will be exchanged for what people want in any economic or political system, and people want to be seen as fashionable. Even if you outlaw art itself, the mind adjusts to incorporate its new perceived reality, developing novel scales and measurements of desirability. We can go all the way back to cavemen, and the prettiest bird feather will still be worth two rocks instead of one.
Sorry to say, you can't fix this one with legislation or economics of any kind.
Justin Cook
hahaha stupid NSA your bot thinks it's on Holla Forums
Colton Miller
i think microsoft windows is a more relatable shit product.
Adam Johnson
and apple obviously. protip: find out what your victim is using and insult the opposite abomination.
Adrian Campbell
That's quite the bold claim you're making there, you have any evidence for it beyond rhetoric.
John Wood
Going by the comparitive quality of their bikes, they shouldn't even be in business, yet they're still one of the larges motorcycle companies.
Isaac Brown
Holy shit Holla Forums. i understand that hooman is a huge joke here but some of these come off as retarded.
Jason Walker
At least those products can claim something like "ease of use". Apple even had that "it just works" thing.
There is literally no upside to Harley-Davidson that I'm aware of.
Andrew Ortiz
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Zachary Miller
You say this, but we have never really tried. Breaking brands should not be too hard; just outlaw ads, force plain packaging, mandate standardized information.
Most of these things are already around in one form or the other!
Gavin Sanchez
Im sorry, ill go back to jerking off about the material conditions and the non-existence of culture.
