Any good sci-fi books/comics/movies with left-wing messages?

Any good sci-fi books/comics/movies with left-wing messages?

The genre seems kind of dominated by conservatives for some reason.

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Planetes
Star Trek
The Matrix
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lmao like how? that's why i am so into cyberpunk and shit. there's always some character that is more 'anarchist' than right wing most of the time

The Lord of the Rings

is the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy left?

It is childish.

Any of you serious sci-fi nerds got some imput?

i wouldnt say its childish. Then again i did read them for the first time when i was 12…

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Adult fiction then.

China Mieville, Ken MacLeod and, Ian M Banks are pretty good for leftist sci-fi

The Takeshi Kovacs seriesby Richard K. Morgan
Imperial Radch series by Ann Leckie
Eclipse Phase if you're into /tg/

can confirm that Imperial Radch is pretty good.

Ken Macleod, the stone canal

author/character is socialist, wakes up on future ancap planet. read it

I have one of his books, it's about a space-faring commie earth society in conflict with post-singularity super-AI, it even involves the ancap society from the Stone Canal showing up and acting smug at one point. It's pretty good.

Cyberpunk in general is great.
>>>/cyber/15734

prologue to the dispossessed, if you haven't read that you should.

Take the Neonpill

Snowcrash fucking owns but god damn is it 90's

Ursula K. LeGuin is anarchist, and one of her novels is being made into a movie now. Check her out.

William Gibson's cyberpunk novels are broadly leftist too.

in addition to what has been mentioned, there is also:
Hackers, V for Vendetta, "This Book is full of Spiders" and "Futuristic Suits and Fancy Violence" by David Wong, The Expanse, Black Mirror, 3rd Rock from the Sun, and possibly Fight Club and Brazil (1985).

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I cast some doubt on if the culture is leftist, it is essentially run by ship sized supercomputers. Them BTFOing a theocracy was fun though.

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Sci fi isn't specifically right wing, but it's nature is reactionary. Phillip K Dick has some heavy anti-fascism and anti-capitalist themes in a few stories but in reality he was probably just a liberal. He did get visited by the FBI in 1955 because his wife was a socialist so he might have been too, who knows

More of a Nietzschean work, but highly recommended!

That's part of what makes it so fun.


Asimov's Foundation series is basically "Historical Materialism: IN SPAAAAAACE."

Mobile Suit Gundam and its iterations comes dangerously close to the left sometimes.


What, really? I left ages ago because it was overrun with Holla Forumscucks. What happened?

Especially the manga.

Anything by A&B Strugatsky. Their Noon series is set in a Communist world. I haven't read the whole series, but Hard to be a God is a very fun read. In that book there's the commie world but it's set in a different, medieval age, world, with an observer sent to see how they develop and trying to give them a gentle push.
Roadside Picnic (Stalker) is also worth reading, but set in a cutthroat Capitalist world (at least around the US Zone).

Asimov's Foundation series is basically "Historical Materialism: IN SPAAAAAACE."

I second Asimov. I love pretty much every book he wrote.

As games Shadowrun is a corporate dystopia.

technoir seems fun

anyone played it?

i thought the culture pretty much was FALC

Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars trilogy.
Alexander Bogdanov's Red Star too.
We by Yevgeny Zamyatin.

Kim Stanley Robinson's 2312

For real? I'll read it. Do you think Asimov did it consciously to reflect Marxism or just happened to stumble upon a similar view of history?

he was a liberal, but he was aware of socialist theory I think.

here he reviews 1984, you could almost mistake him for a tankie
newworker.org/ncptrory/1984.htm

asimov comes across as more of a liberal in that than anything else

computers (consider the Nazis) and the most computerised nations in today's
world are also the least tyrannical.

kek

fuck you copy paste

Yeah. The funny thing is that IBM literally supplied the machines for the Nazi Jewish databases.

asimov comes across as a liberal who atleast knows about leftist shitflinging in that. a pretty good take down of 1984 from a liberal point of view but still misses the point of 1984 is all autocracy is bad. he is right that 1984 is pretty crappy as a piece of SF

You mean all of them?

It seems most deep sci-fi tends to be leftist but most "spaceman pew pew" pulp stuff tends to be rightist

There's plenty of anarchist leaning science fiction, check these out:
benbeck.co.uk/anarchysf/hotlist.htm

Orson Scott Card is a reactionary Mormon

How is V for Vendetta sci fi?

it might be the autism talking but card's books are creepy as fuck when you know what connotations he is actually trying to imply

iirc V was the result of some kind of scientific experiment or something and it's implied to be set in the near future


I think I know what you're talking about, but could you elaborate? I'm sure it's just as loathsome as his editorials

sci-fi is shit

dumb and proud

Margaret Atwood's The Handmaid's Tale.

Horus did NOTHING wrong

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I think it's not really in any direction, it's humour and criticism is purely negative. Good read though.

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They're definitely anti-capitalist at least.

Voyage from Yesteryear is the thing that first pointed me toward libertarian socialism, and the idea of post-scarcity in a pragmatic sense beyond the far-future technology of something like Star Trek. Note that Hogan himself has oscillated between socialism and mystical lolbertism throughout his career.

Similarly recommended is Eric Frank Russel, a staunch leftist (whose short story And Then There Were None inspired VfY). Wasp, in particular, stands out as essentially "baby's first revolutionary terrorist: the novel"

Another favorite of mine is the Retief series, a barely-fictional parody of bungling American interventionism.

Also
Kek, rightists in SF (much like the world's population of actual scientists from whom most great SF writers were drawn) have always been notable largely by their conspicuous rarity. Even in the genre's more politically centrist sibling, fantasy, orthodox rightism is rare compared to simply nostalgic feudalism (complemented by leftism in the form of massive amounts hippy crap and its romantic predecessors).


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Foundation was more "Rise & Fall of the Roman Empire: IN SPAAACE." The fact that Marx was also strongly influenced by the same historical period and its obvious lessons accounts for much of the resemblance.

Uh, all of star trek?

was already suggested, but it can't be mentioned enough.
TOS is epic, TNG is epic and actually not boring after the first two seasons or so, a few of the movies are alright but soon after rodenberry died it devolved into warmongering pentagon propaganda.

it's technically some kind of cyberpunk, i guess, like the matrix.
it's probably what happens when religious people somehow manage to make a movie that isn't shit. like donnie darko.

but it's all close enough related that it belongs together. even though cyberpunk might have evolved from film noir and scifi from thinking about positive future utopias.

it's a shame the shills started to destroy all /cyber/ communities they can find. if anyone knows one that isn't shit, please link.
i'd hate to have to go back to google+

It's not similar. It's the opposite: as non-Marxist perception of Historical Materialism as you can get. Imagine Liberals developing science that can predict future, but doesn't unequivocally tell everyone to murder them. That's what Asimov writes about.

If Marxist HiMat is about qualitative change (Feudalism->Capitalism or Capitalism->Communism), Asimov's psychohistory has quantitative (make Dark Ages 30 times shorter). I.e. Feudalism/Capitalism last forever (they literally have an Empire there), the point is to make recession shorter.

If Marxist HiMat is about hands-on approach (change history today!), Foundation is about providing results centuries later.

If Marxist HiMat tells you that conditions define humans, for Asimov it's the opposite: the most "logical" thing is to collect the brightest people, put them in one place and expect this place to remain Smart for a thousand years.

Sounds like vanguardism fam

Vanguardism doesn't suggest that revolutionary mindset is hereditary and can span 50 generations.

TOS and TNG are both good in different ways IMO. TOS feels very retro, ray guns and bubble helmets, you know? A very different sort of sci fi than what TNG becomes after they stop reusing old TOS scripts.

there's a star trek episode about this btw.

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Not a traditional Sci-fi but the Wachowskis' Cloud Atlas is basically the Movie version of Hegel's Phenomenology.

atwood is good though you fag

Literally 95% of sci fi is leftist I studied it at university level

Is that so? Cloud Atlas has massive Buddhist overtones too.

Member of a Culture Contact ship, upon discovering Earth:


-Ian m Banks, The State of the Art

There's a scene in the Star Trek TNG movie, First Contact, where Picard explains that the 23rd century Federation basically operates via communism. It is glorious.


Fuck those hack trannies, they only directed the visual aspects of the film, as they rightfully should have. Tom Tykwer was more the main director of the whole thing.

Yes.

Hegel's phenomenology / spirituality shares similarities particularly with Buddhism in the sense of the similarities between Pantheism / Panentheism.

The reason I call the film Hegelian rather than Buddhist or Nietzschean or something similar is primarily because you get to see the historical development of spirit and how it is perceived differently through different epochs in human civilization; from the mythological / animistic of the primitivist fallen humans on the dead earth, to the Religious and Artistic among the story of the slaveship and the creation of the Cloud Atlas Sextet on toward the scientific, political and historical present in the stories surrounding more advanced levels of human civilization.

Also the Wachowskis have generally included radical continental philosophy into their movies, for instance Baudrillard in the Matrix, which puts them closer to Hegel and Nietzsche than Buddhism (of course I'm completely speculating here they maybe Buddhists for all I know.)

How long has it been since you read Foundation? The premise is absolutely material, the scientists are a small subset of the population who exist to preserve technological/scientific knowledge, which gives them unique material conditions compared to the surrounding technologically regressed feudal states.
It's nor Marxist but it's not as retarded as you make it sound either.