When will you admit Hillary was the lesser evil?

pretty objectively wrong

she would've appointed typical neolib style managers, which isn't good, but preferable to appointing people who want to destroy the agencies they're in charge of. she wouldn't have appointed someone who wants to privatize education, she wouldn't have appointed someone who wants to kill the EPA, she wouldn't have pointed a neurosurgeon to housing and urban development, etc, etc

economic picks might've more or less been the same (former wall street execs) but at least there's some brakes on the fucktrain

I voted for Trump because, i wanted our next President to be held accountable for their actions. I don't give a flying fuck about his brain dead policies. What matters is that he's rightfully getting BTFOd at every turn. What matters is that the media isn't going easy. on him.

If it was Hilary she'd be a Lot more subtle about the shit she tries to sell us. The normies wouldn't be able to see through the PC/PR friendly face she puts on. The media would run a circus of mental gymnastics to justify everything she does while deflecting all criticisms as just whining from sexists.

Just look the WikiLeaks debacle. The DNC leaks gave us hundreds of documents (all verified) exposing their corruption and the response from the elites was either radio silence, smug hand waving or full D.A.R.V.O
FAKE NEWS

With Trump, his bullshit is proudly displayed for all to see. The antifascist sentiment he's been brewing is an added bonus.

There is no possible argument to made for Hillary as a lesser evil because the Clinton Campaign chose Trump as their opponent. Trump would not have had his blitz of media attention without the 'pied piper' strategy.

salon.com/2016/11/09/the-hillary-clinton-campaign-intentionally-created-donald-trump-with-its-pied-piper-strategy/

Thank Hillary for Trump, POS Neoliberal.

While I agree with everything you said, That isn't a criticism of Hillary as much as it a criticism of complacent shit-headed liberals and the people who create them.
It's not the politicians that need to change to become what the populace "deserves", it's the populace that needs to get their head out their asses (or the people that had the goals and the means to make the population retarded who should be recognized for their achievements).

clinton is like pulling a bandaid off millimeter by millimeter
trump is like ripping it off all at once

She is friends with the Gates family (Bill Gates) and has talked about the virtues of charter schools with them before. A key want of the Bill and Melinda gates foundation is the privatization of education. They funded the fallacious documentary "Waiting for Superman" about that very subject. She was a supporter of Rahm Emmanuel who advocates for charter schools. She is a supporter of Cory Booker who advocates for charter schools. She is associated with quite a few people who have made statements that mirror the wants of Betsy Davos including her horrendous pick for vice president.

She was planning on appointing the former CEO of Starbucks as the labor secretary who has the same views on labor issues that trumps pick for secretary of labor has. The former CEO of Starbucks and her VP pick are both anti-union and want to stop the fight for 15 from spreading to more states.

As the leaked ghost cabinet pic shows the majority of her cabinet would be filled with former Goldman-Sachs and Citi Bank employees. Citi-bank exists BTW because of policies Bill Clinton and Robert Rubin pioneered in gutting banking regulations in the 90's. Robert Rubin went on to be a CEO of Citi bank and also managed to leave it right before it crashed. Larry Summers was Robert Rubin's underling, Larry went on to be Treasury secretary in the Clinton and Obama Whitehouses. The majority of Obama's cabinet was chosen by Citi bank according to the Podesta emails.

She was planning on putting a Texas Republican on the Supreme court. Arm the poor Jimmy Dore explains:
youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=doKew2je9OU

Hillary wanted to privatize social security. Make further cuts to welfare. Expand the surveillance state She may not gut the EPA, but she would support fracking, the pipelines, not expand funding on infrastructure and due to her connections to the Kochs and the Saudis would most likely not encourage innovations in alternative sources of energy.

She wanted wars with Syria and Iran and had ties to people who wanted wars with you guessed it Syria and Iran. Like the above Saudis and of course everyone's favorite Israel. Guess who is allies to both Syria and Iran? Russia…. Crazy that she tried to blame Trump and all her failures on a target she was most likely going to start demonizing under her presidency. I think the single thing that scared me most about a Hillary presidency was he statement that she wanted boots on the ground in Syria which was basically her saying she wanted a war with Russia.

Trump is bad, but Hillary really would be almost equally as bad in almost every way except outright bigotry. It isn't hyperbole, she was neoliberalism with a fake expressionless face.

According to the Podesta emails, that would be Hillary's entourage of puppeteers and roadies. Their whole triumphalist schtick is so not present year.
It's still a mistake to blame voters who are continuously propagandized to accept the choices offered them by their betters, that anything else is a "wasted vote," that the noble class can possibly serve their subjects' interests impartially and faithfully. I forgive them for having been actively kept away from the tools to dissect bullshit.

Based dubdubs

Hillary was the better option so the fallout could happen and the blame could be directed at the government and established institutions proper.

Now when Trump goes down in flames it won't be accelerationism it'll just be "haha now that retard is gone government can go back to functioning 'properly' :D"

Still sounds like the worst case of Clinton is a less extreme version of everything Trump is doing/going to do though. I get that it's not a reason to vote for her but doesn't that actually make her the lesser evil in the most literal sense?

That's a religious matter and best discussed in your own church.

The clinton scum killed 168 people and injured hundreds of other americans in oklahoma city bombing, just to cover up their scandalous past, the evidence needed to indict Bill and destroy both, his and her political careers for good was stored in that bombed federal building, and no attemp to even recover any of it was made since the building was soon demolished.

All Donald Trump ever did was piss off some angry scotsman by building a golf resort.

On one issue, she was: climate change. Trump will absolutely wreck us.

Still a shit candidate though, she deserved all she got for knifing Bernie.

It isn't really "less" though when a lot of her policies were virtually the same or worse.

yeah sorry Holla Forums, opinion discarded

not impeached yet, being BTFOed doesnt make him stop fucking shit up

libruls everyone

How about you try to be less shit. Although if you were less shit, you would not be a liberal.

I'll go do some self-criticism to excise my pribelidge.

Go away, CTR.

Isnt he gonna make mexico pay for it

No, she would have put the same old liberal smiling face over essentially the same policies as trump. Trump at least doesn't isn't trying to be a wolf in sheep's clothing like Hilary

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The fact that Hillary lost to Trump in 2016 is proof that she wouldn't have been able to have a second term in 2020. After four years of a disastrous Hillary presidency, literally any Republican rat would have been able to beat her. 2020 is a redistricting year. By dealing with Trump now, we basically increased our chances of getting someone like Bernie into the presidency in 2020. If that doesn't happen, the Republicans will use legislation to make themselves the only viable party. Then our only option is revolution.

Trump is going to be extremely bad, but the lesser evil argument is insanely shortsighted. There is simply no way to tell which candidate would be better from a strategic left wing perspective. What we really need to do is
AGITATE, EDUCATE, ORGANIZE

TOTALLY ;^)

America just made 4 dollars on this trade btw

Am I stupid if I thought for sure from the first minute that Trump (or whoever the republican option was) was gonna win, as soon as it was announced? Bipartidism and all that.

Eight years of those one guys, eight years of those other dudes. Isn't that just how Burgeristan works?

Payed by ameridumbs.

Though lets be honest, we live in a capitalistic society and since Ameridumbs are dumb the price of those bananas will move to 130$ because people love to hijack price increases and blame others while they get more profit.

Meanwhile the wall is gonna cost millions

you forgot the part where Brazil calls America after Mexico raises the price and says he has bananas at 85 if US buys 5tons in cash

SocDem shill position is pretty obvious, and people here not taking it seriously.
Hillary's audience to the left is like alt-right to Holla Forums. Its corrupted capitalist establishment, which literally fucks children, worships cults and pours money into terrorism and exploit causes. Their interest in immigrants is not equality or "love and peace" messages, they need cheap labor to exploit inside their own countries, along side of exported labor they already have in china, india and other countries. People literally got killed for trying to expose Hillary's crimes, and Bernie Sanders obviously was put under a gun too.
And now people think its worth fighting against Trump, to benefit those people. Its like trying to cure a bleeding wound with a chainsaw. Trump wanted to fix that, and he will eventually, despite all the laughter. And modern leftists right now in total disarray, without theory, but just plain brainwashed hate towards the anti-globalist candidate, working as useful idiots to corporate establishments who lose profits due to Trump, literally porkie slaves.

If Trump still gets attacked even after getting the office, he actually managed to piss off loads of capitalist corporations who benefited from corrupt democracy he went against. Working against him right now means working with them.

Holla Forums is so easy to trigger lol

If people could charge 120 they would have already. People get a little wiggy about this because it "distorts the market" and anything but a perfectly natural, free market is harmful (natch), but import taxes and tariffs in general are not actually taxes on your own populace

Good luck with transportation costs, and also good luck with your trade war now that china will start supporting mexico after the pee pee man starts trade war with china as well ;^)

this

at least Trump puts an scary face on it

No, they want immigrants because they're basically walking votes for Democrats

Remember, the "Obama coalition" of brown people, urbanites, and feminist cat ladies was supposed to turn America into a one-party Democrat state like Mexico with the PRI

It's mostly annoying to deal with lolbert arguments being advanced with total sincerity. Also the pic you posted is heavily photoshopped and the equivalent of pic related

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More "alternative facts" I see

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Indeed. Actually the democratic strategy has not changed. They still believe demographics will pave the road to victory forever, they were just a little too early. Texas is going blue! And all that.

The republicans however see a different way to lock down the White House and that is by makeing the "rust" belt permenant republican territory like Dixieland already is.

Basically it's likely the popular vote/electoral collage difference will happen again for the next few elections

youtube.com/watch?v=vMnVqDS_jb8

HRC was the lesser evil to those already muh privileged under the neoliberal order

You know it's an edited image so you ought to give up. Anyway I'm not going to respond to your post and am "filtering by id" after I hit new reply so I won't see it. Don't bother responding.

Holla Forums at least try to lurk more before shitposting here, you are so obvious it is embarrassing

When you will admit that you are a faggot?

if that was true, what would it change?
also we can have the whole debate if you should vote for the lesser of 2 evils

But that user but not knowing how to filter by id means you are the newfag tbh

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There should a max required age.
Like 70 or 75.

Look at the OP of this thread mate

Hillary is a fucking corporatist. She`s worse than Trump, she wanted WW3, boasted about going to war.
And if you want to see what would have happened after she had won, just take a look at Libya and her work as Secretary of State. Its a fucking disaster.

You do realize we spend 300 billion on welfare and 1 trillion on the broader definition of welfare programs annually.

trump would have a much easier time if the majority of his fanbase wasn't absolute retards.

She probably was, but Trump will be the end of "lesser evilism" in American politics, so in the end he was a better choice.

I wont

Doubtful, given that if Trump fucks up enough he'll naturally lend credence to "lesser evilism"

youtube.com/watch?v=MtDOqNlgoOE

Related in how we're wasting our monies.

If your electorial system wasn't pants on head retarded this stupid meme wouldn't exist.
also fuck off with it regardless. "lesser evil" is the reason you all voted for the shittiest candidate instead of bernie. This is all literally your fault.

Hillary was the more dangerous choice. She actually surrounded herself with intelligent and informed individuals. It didn't matter if she was out of touch or "confused." She had her competent team to run them machine for her.
So far the only person on Trump's cabinet that isn't a doomsday prophet, incompetent or actually insane is Rex Tellerson. And even he can't hide his dirty laundry.

Trump is a clown that is incapable of not spilling his spaghetti. His corruption is obvious that even the MSM will attack him openly for it.
Hillary at least made an effort to make it look like she and her husband were running a legitimate charity. Trump has his people promote his family's brands from within the White House.

Trump will crash everything with no survivors through his own incompetence and his batshit insane advisers.

Exactly. Trump might blunder into a war, but his team are too clueless to have the US fight one effectively.
Hillary was a guaranteed end-of-the-world NATO war with Russia.