This is the most objective 'worst game in a series' i have ever played

Nobody defends Halo 5's Campaign though, it's universally agreed to be shit.

What people defend, and rightfully so, is the MP and forge, which are great, webm related

What Halo novels are worth reading? I read Ghosts of Onyx and really enjoyed it, especially the naval battles. The Cole Protocol was good too, in particular the parts about Elite culture; the author did a good job of showing the alien viewpoints of Covenant members towards humans and each other. Contact Harvest wasn't that good, though. The characters were decent, and there was nothing wrong with the writing mechanicaly or stylistically, but the scale felt completely off. On a planet of 300,000 people that supplied enough food for 7 or 8 nearby colonies there were maybe 100 armed militiamen to defend the entire place. These 100 or so militia were trained only a few months(?) previously, even though humanity been teetering towards civil war for years at this point. They faced off against a single Covenant destroyer with literally 10 Brutes and a bunch of Grunts. The battle could barely be called a skirmish, but they evacuate the fucking planet because of it. It rubbed me all the wrong ways, especially because it was supposed to be such an important event.

I'm a big lorefag and could give you suggestions, but I thought Cole Protocol was meh and Contact Harvest is IMO one of the best.

I can see why that may seem odd, but in reality it makes perfect sense: One of the biggest causes for the Insurrection to start was the UNSC neglecting it's outer colonies and them having to fend for themselves. Harvest itself was one of the most isolated, on-the-edge-of-space colionies the UNSC had, so it wouldn't really have a need for a standing army either.

The Rapid Conversion had more troops then that, those were just what you saw, IIRC. Also, it was a Brute operated ship, which were intentionally left neglected and undermanned. There was also a seperate covenant vessel as well.

Because they weren't able to mount an effective defense and it was Glassing everything.

Anyways, other then those 3 what else have you read?

It's been what, two years? A year at least? Haven't you gotten tired of defending Halo 5 and posting the same cuckchan webms over and over?

Also the webms are like that so I can post them all together in a single post rather then having to split them up into separate ones.

>Another Halo thread

Oh, come on!

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Yeah, not at all because you reddit space and presumably either defend this game on cuckchan as religiously as you do here or frequent some cancerous general. Besides, that's not much of an excuse when the cap is 16mb and they don't have sound. How often do you play Halo 5? Why are you such an autist that any time Halo 5 is mentioned you show up and make your presence so clearly known? What's wrong with you?

It's pretty sad really but it could be worse, no wait Overwatch is just as bad.

It's staggering really.

My problem isn't with the Halo series itself. I happen to very much like the game, and have liked them for numerous years.
What my problem is, however, is that this recent influx of newfags cannot seem to talk about anything else aside FROM Halo.
Yes, it's a good games series (Excluding Guardians), and Bungie was a great developer (Before most of original staff left and the new crew began making Destiny), but seeing a Halo thread pop up literally as the previous one dies just shows how little people experienced with other games and is the main reason why Holla Forums has a near universal hatred for any newfag that doesn't bother lurking.
Play something else for one.

I still don't even know what the fuck "reddit space" or "reddit spacing" means. Why don't you stop being a faggot?

Was it upped recently? I thought the cap was 12mb because whenever i've uploaded webms that add up to around that it tells me I went over the limit.

What the everloving fuck makes you think I don't participate in other threads?

This is the first time I even checked Holla Forums in like a month.

It's adding tons of unnecessary spacing to your posts, filling up the thread and making your presence more annoying for everyone. Cuckchan crossposting whilst autistically defending a shitty game certainly doesn't help.
Good, I hope you take a longer absence.

Those are the only 3 books I bothered with.

I just finished reading it. It's literally Maccabeus, Tartarus, and only eight more Brutes, a small contingent of Grunts, and and some bugs. That's everyone on the ship. They didn't even have a working plasma projector until Lighter than Some repaired it. It could not even fight another ship before they stumbled on the Deacon and Huragok. The ship was the tiniest, shittiest ship the Elites could possibly give to a Brute captain. That force took over a vital agricultural planet despite losing their ship and being stranded there outnumbered by an ungodly amount by pissed off farmers, a militia, and nearly a million units of robotic farm machinery controlled by a military-grade ai.

Give Harvest a few thousand militiamen, some UNSC advisors, and plenty of shotgun-toting farmers, and have them duke it out with a small Covenant battle group with working ships. The book would be fine then, it's just a matter of scale.

They rushed the game, why did you think it took them a year to patch in some technical problems? also, 343 lied and Microsoft had to scrub all Master Chief vs Spartan Locke bullshit ads. All that build up for a shitty choreograph fight that would rival Mcgregor vs Mayweather

Does anyone have the Halo CE installer we used to use?

I will never understand why they changed the animation style, after second stage everything and everyone looks like they are made of rubber, you can't even tell takumi and ryosuke appart due to the fucked up style they went on

Halo 3's anniversary has been and gone you nigger
Also

I wonder where you've come in from?

I want a serious answer, why do people defend Halo so much?
I really want to know, I remember it generally being considered cancer many years ago but now that the kids who grew up on it are adults they defend it religiously

It's the same kids who defended it back then, they haven't grown up or developed decent taste in vidya at all which explains why the industry is the way it is now.

Are we talking about Halo 5 or Halo in general, because post-Bungie Halo deserves the ire it gets but pre-343 is just a game that is popular to hate on Holla Forums

Because it was the first instance of gaming where people hated on something because it was "cool". Halo did a lot of things right, it had a grand story, great gameplay, an awesome multiplayer mode, and it blew a lot of people's socks off. It also established what the standard was for a game controller. Halo took everything that was learned and done in game development up to that point, and executed on it beautifully. However, what happened was that everyone say this great trilogy of games, and tried to copy the formula without understanding the process. With it, you saw numerous titles popping up as the latest "Halo-killer" and fall just as soon as they came, and you also saw numerous companies copying some of the gameplay aspects and become somewhat standardized across the board towards game creation. When people saw all this going on in some vain attempt to ripoff the casuals, more dedicated gamers felt rightful threatened about the future of their hobby and they sought for something to blame.

As I already said, Halo did nothing new, but it execution was hands-down masterful. However, the popularization of it was the first time you really started to see game companies attempting to rip eachother off. It was the "Once in a lifetime" event in gaming that was never seen before and never will be seen again.

For a console shooter, yeah, but that's like being the brightest student in a special needs class.

Which Halo novels are worth reading?

I'm sorry, but I have to stop you right there.
Fans of Halo will never, ever understand why people dislike the games if they keep operating under this mentality.
People do not hate Halo because it was cool, almost nobody ever hates anything because it's cool, people disliked Halo because it was slow, floaty, it had a two weapon limit and the maps were poorly designed (for the first two games, at least). You may like how that makes the game play, but a lot of people didn't and still don't.
At this point I have to ask if you're not looking on the series with some extreme rose-tinted glasses. The first and second games were clunky messes and that's not because of their age. There are first-person shooters ten years older than Halo which play a lot smoother. Maybe it's because I played the games on PC, but I'm not giving them any leeway just because they were early attempts at multiplats.
If you were only every trapped in the echo chamber of mainstream gaming, sure.
Well actually, it was mostly WW2 shooters that are to blame here. Halo's effect on the industry, was for the most part, popularizing console shooters. The gameplay mechanics said console shooters took was usually from Medal of Honor and Call of Duty rather than Halo.

Good day newfag. Fuck off >>>/reddit/
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Nice >>>/cuckchan/ webms

I already explained I have the webms like that so I can post more of them at once. Read the thread. There's also absolutely no benefit to having any of those at a higher resolution then I have them. Hell, the only webm thread I actually made and could have put sound on is the last one, the other two didn't have sound to begin with.

Which I haven't done, other in where I accidentally added a line break between the first greentext line and my response. Stop being a whiny baby.

You should have read The Fall of Reach The Flood (though since it's an adaption of CE it's optional) and First Strike prior to reading Ghosts of Onyx, since TfoR > tF > FS > GoO is a direct narrative thread.

I would actually say all of them other then The Flood (since it's got issues and CE covers it anyways) and the second two Kilo 5 books are worth the time it takes to read them. But if you want to just read the actual really good ones/the ones that provide the mandatory context, then

I've heard good things about Smoke and Shadow; and Envoy, but I have not read them yet. Note that Fall of Reach, First Strike, and Glasslands aren't "great' (the former two are good, just not great; glasslands is flawed) but needed for context for the books after it.

The quickest path to Zen is the acceptance that Halo is only good for the soundtrack and artstyle pre-343. Gameplay is baby tier.
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Just use Custom Edition

You are right

Read something from your backlog first. It'll feel bad at first but you'll be proud of yourself afterwards. That's how it works, remember?

I forgot to mention, it's well liked due to colour variety aka diversity. There are a lot of different flat colours used and the enemies especially are quite vibrant. Kinda like how moeshit is popular, you never get used to seeing the same palette for more than about 10 minutes.
Ever wonder why ADHD is on the rise?

Holy shit you are autistic. Do you really think you're going to change anyone's mind after mentioning Halo in the same breath as Quake? Fuck, it's like I'm really 11 again in 2002 and you're just another one of those kids who makes himself look dumb when they play babby's first FPS on console and think it's the coolest shit ever. Then they go to any general gaming forum and see the kids with PCs say "I like Quake 3 and Half Life better" and completely lose their shit because they just wanted to be cool too. How do you imagine that you don't look ridiculous entering into a thread like this and saying "Actually Halo 5 is good fight me?" Like that will ever change anyone's mind?

The only good thing about this game was the semen demon purple floating eyebot.
She seemed qt.

Everything else looks like utter cancer, like they were taking the failures of 4 and compounding them with worse shit.

Really ought to pick up the new Titanfall. I've heard the story was actually good, and I'm a sucker for robots.

OH GOSH user I SURE HOPE YOU OBTAIN A LEGITIMATE LICENSE (note: not a copy) AND SUPPORT THE PUBLISHER'S MURDEROUS RAMPAGEDEVELOPERS

It's trash. Stop defending it. One tiny somewhat decent thing does not make the whole any less of the steaming pile of shit it is.
You don't commend a chef for serving you a decent cup of water, when the rest of the meal is a scorched boot dredged up from some cityfag bay.

Oh.
Wait, that's right.
It was published by EA, wasn't it?
I remember why I haven't bought it now.

It was fun. A fairly decent game. Got a lot of flak from doom and quake faggots, who in my personal opinion, lorded their games largely due to nostalgia.

Just download a grey market demonstration version, unless you want multiplayer on NA-West Coast, or more likely, Euro servers. I wouldn't trust that the playerbase still exists for such an under advertised game, even if it is one of the best source games out there.

It got a lot of flak from us because it caused morons like you to plonk 300 bucks on a big black and green brick with a copy of Halo because it was a "good shooter" when the only novel thing it really had going for it was decent AI, which can be coded into any shooter. It wasn't a bad game (referring specifically to Combat Evolved here) but you clowns still spent a lot of money on that shit. Now we get yearly CoD and AssCreed and constantly downgraded games for console and people like you look around and ask, "What happened?" You exerted force on the market, that's what happened, when you could have just installed Half Life on your PC, which was a 3 year old game at the time, and got an arguably better experience. If you want muh vehicles autism you had Tribes.

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Also, for worst game in a series, how about I reverse the derail with Portal 2. It completely fucked with the look & feel of the first. Portal is an artsy minimalist linear exploration game, not a forced-joke story crawl through an Apple factory. I hate valve and I hate how DDR-RAM got so cheap, dense and ubiquitous that everything has to be defined to an almost-perfect uncanny degree, instead of taking a derivative approach. Games have regressed further and further from art as time goes on, they are turning into B-grade movies.

Here is how you tell consoleniggers from PC gamers: ask them if Halo was innovative. If they say anything other than no, they're retarded console fanboys.

Halo felt slow and shitty, every movement an attempt to swim through molasses. The games are hilariously easy even on legendary, the story is just a shitty take on 40k, and even the edgy "hero never shows his face" has been done before.

Halo, like most console FPS games, is only good because it's all you know.

To be fair, it's a shitty take on a game they already made: Marathon.

Yeah , but back then consoles were nice for playing with family and friends.

Were there any shooters on the market that follow Halo's golden triangle of weapon-melee-grenades?

The golden triangle you describe is a basic distinctive flow of gameplay, it's something every shooter that is worth playing needs to have, but it is not innovative because without it Halo would just be a boring shitty game. If there was another game which featured that gameplay before Halo, Halo would seem like a carbon copy ripoff of that game. Similarly to how bunnyhopping and rocket jumping meshes perfectly with Quake map design. These games don't have the golden triangle for the same reason Halo doesn't have rocket jumping. The idea of throwing grenades while having a gun already out already existed in TFC and Tribes.

OK, but Goldeneye and Perfect Dark didn't inspire generations of awful shooters. It's one of those mistakes that is only perfectly clear in hindsight. Kind of like how Half Life ended up inspiring really linear cinematic crap even though Half Life was not a bad game.

>What is Medal of Honor?

And you know what had an even better forge than Halo 5? Halo CE.

While it may not have bhopping and proper rocket jumping it still has it's own gameplay quirks throughout the series. I also like shit like custom games and armour customisation which was second to none - on consoles

Halo was a game for the underaged 15 years ago and it's a game for underaged now.

How do you know Medal of Honor was directly inspired by Goldeneye? Also, they actually had some good games in the franchise. I usually attribute shooter games with lots of setpieces and cinematics to Half Life's success.

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Ah, I get you. MoH was inspired by Goldeneye, therefore Goldeneye is indirectly responsible for heaps of shitty WW2 games. I don't think that is necessarily fair, seems like it might be more appropriate to say Saving Private Ryan was responsible for generations of shitty WW2 games. I think that guy was set on making a WW2 game even if Goldeneye didn't exist thanks to SPR.

The levels of projection and hypocrisy in this post are quite shocking.

You think the love for Doom and Quake is just nostalgia? Nigger we were playing considerably better deathmatches online years before your split-screen casual shooter landed to rave reviews by consolefags who didn't know better, just like you.

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Eh? Which mission is that?

In Halo:CE? You do that exact comic once in the second level, the fourth level has you opening a door via a switch on the other side of an island, the sixth level has you going up and down various lifts, and the eighth level is where you activate a number of pillars. In Halo 2, you open a door in the fourth level to allow in the NPCs as well as go up and down lifts, the latter on the fifth level, you activate a bridge on the sixth level, a couple of carriers and lifts on the seventh level, another platform and numerous doors on the eighth level, put something in a slot on level 11, activate a walkivator on level 13, and those are all of the moments in the first two games where you have to do something via a button prompt.

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gosh Bungie must've had no competition on casualbox

To be fair, Halo 1: Gearbox is the last good game Gearbox made. The mod support they added later was quite good. Mods were tied to maps so you could play on one kooky needler themed map where the shotgun shoots needles and the rocket launcher rounds explode into needle shrapnel, then go to the next one which is a faithful reproduction of Zanzibar from Halo 2 including all the guns and mechanics.

I never claimed Halo 5 was a good game overall, I said it's MP and forge, IE, parts of it were good. Also, the MP and forge isn't "a tiny part of it", It's 2/3 of it. It's still not worth buying the game full price for it but you are acting like it's 5% good and 95% bad when that's not at all accurate.

Also, there are plenty of people who solely like Halo for the MP. I think those people are stupid and are missing a huge part of what makes Halo good, but for those people, getting Halo 5 WOULD be worth it.

The Halo games do have shit like rocket jumping though, they are just less prevalent. Also, Halo 5 in particular adds a lot of advanced movement systems, the fact that it's sped up and has more movement options and that brings it closer to other arena shooters is part of why I like Halo 5's gameplay

Halo CE isn't innovative, and I think it's overrated as fuck, but 2 legimately did do innovative things with it's networking, matchmaking hoppers and other networking stuff was invented for Halo 2's matchmaking. Also a game doesn't need to be innovative to be good. Something can do nothing innovative or revolutionary and just execute well on already tried things and still be good. It's match:

343 announced that MCC would be getting updated next year and fixed, so maybe they'll port it to PC when that's done, I certainly hope so.

Also, Spartan Strike and Assault are actually decent for what they are and for the cheap price, they are fairly well done twin stick shooters. I haven't played Halo Wars 2 myself but i've heard it's decent, and Halo 5: Forge is free and ONLY has the MP and forge without the shitty campaign, so that's good as well.

The first Borderlands was alright, and 2 would have been good had the comedy not been cringy garbage and had they not entirely screwed up the loot system.

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That was a generic example, not in reference to Halo. Did you see me mention Halo at all there?

That being said, I do play PC shooters, and none of them do what I enjoy about the Halo games: Plenty MP focused ones do the MP far better then the Halo games, and plenty of SP focused ones do the SP better, but there's very few other franchises or games that manage to do both SP and MP well in the same way the Halo series does.

Titanfall 2 does but I don't see why you'd consider that more of a PC shooter then the Halo games.

Forgot to give the UT games as an example for a MP focused PC FPS that I really enjoy.

Incidentally, UT is more comparable then any other series to Halo, Halo itself is pretty much just a slower UT.

This is one of the dumbest things ever said on Holla Forums

I do agree with that, but I honestly think Halo is stupidly overrated, the only things that it got right was improving console controls to about as good as a controller can handle a shooter, which is still fucking awful compared to mouse+keyboard, and giving you a decent couch FPS multiplayer experience when you are 12 and have your buddies over which explains why people have such fund memories of it.
Objectively though there's no reason you should play shooters or RTS games in console, besides twin stick shooters that is.

gaylo is objectively dogshit in general, why select just one game

It's true, and if you think it's that stupid you've clearly never actually played both.

I mean I agree that CE in particular is really overrated, it's single player is tedious as balls and is extremely repetitive, but I think the other titles are really good. I don't think you'll find many people who argue that Halo is mechanically superior or even on par with PC shooters: It's not, and if you are solely judging a game by it's skill ceiling or mechanical complexity then yeah, Halo is extremely lacking.

What makes the Halo games good, at least personally, is as I said the fact it actually manages to put effort into both SP and MP and user content tools; as well as it's visual design, it's setting/lore (This is, actually, my favorite part of the series, I love the universe and the novels. Even just the environmental storytelling and symbolsim that goes on in a few of the games is impressive, with ODST having tons of symbolism to Dante's inferno, for instance) and obviously it's music.

I don't actually enjoy FPS games at all from a mechnically deep/competitive perspective, mostly because I don't have many friends and can't into teamwork. By contrast, I do enjoy competitive fighting games because I can do those alone.

How can I develop better taste senpai? What are the requirements?

Non issue. It was a problem in Reach (armor ability that only certain players could have), bad in 4 since your shield could recharge while sprint was active. They fixed everything in Halo 5 (everybody has sprint and your shield won't recharge if you sprint).