Why do you people hate cops so much? What did they even do to you?

Why do you people hate cops so much? What did they even do to you?

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We don't hate them all, they are part of the proletariat and are exploited by porky.

Personally? Nothing, but they exist in part to keep the proles down.

American police seem pretty bad to me though. You need to import Peel's principles, cucks.

Cops in the US are union workers who hate unions. Conservatives in a country where that entails hating the state… You know them. Escalate violence in situations where violence isn't necessary when they're supposed to be keepers of the peace. Defend rich people and their property against protestors and strikes who would if they were successful benefit cops who don't make jack shit and have very few benefits beyond the basics.

I can hate them but the hate they seem to have for themselves and their own purpose does the job for me. They're legalized racist lumpens who do every thing they can to work against their own self interest and perpetuate terrible policies and conditions.

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Under present relations, their training in the use of force is a credential and skill which they use to generate income. Maybe wage-earning petit-bourg?

They're the frontline enforcers of bourgeois dictatorship.


As long as they wear the uniform they aren't proles. They're soldiers in the war on the working class.

Kill All Cops.

Every single one of us is doing Porky's bidding, user. That's one of capitalism's key strengths. Socialism requires constant and conscious effort to be kept; capitalism simply needs you to try to survive. As long as you're breathing, it feeds on you, parasite-like.

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A cop's never done anything for me. We need to get rid of these welfare queens.

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also as for me personally

One time I was riding my bike and I hopped off to avoid someone walking slow as fuck, hopped back on it but misjudged and squashed my balls, hurt like fuck and I was feeling sick so i sat there for a bit to recover, a cop came over with a woman social worker and asked me what was up, I was too embarassed to say I hit myself in the balls so I was just like I hurt myself, he asked if i was okay and i was like yeah I guess, then he was like 'can I have a look in your bag' and I was like I guess, I was like 'youre not trying to arrest me for having drugs right' and he was like no no nothing like that, I should have just made a fuss and not let him, but ya know, my balls, so he starting going through everything and even opening my pens up to see if i had like crack rock in the caps I guess, asking for my name and address, so he doesnt find anything and was like 'do you want me to call an ambulance' and I was like no dude, im fine, so then he just leaves and I realise what an asshole he was

Because they're an index of a broken society.

Why do people steal? Why do people attack each other in explosions of anger? Why are rapists, serial killers, abusive partners, etc. able to get away with it? Why are they always caught in the middle of their crimes rather than before they even happen?

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What I mean is, police are an answer of how to stop crime once it starts. They do not adequately answer the question, how to prevent the crimes from happening in the first place.

Rapists are only brought to justice after they have raped someone. Abusive partners are often abusive for years before being discovered.

You get me?

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I don't hate cops per se, and I actually respect them for the most part. However, I do have one huge problem with them. They're fucking robbers who take away hard-working people's money over stupid shit like parking "violations". (Often for slight violations that can be resolved by paying for 2 extra minutes on the meter or moving your car a bit.) The worst part is that whole police departments run on that principle in order to keep their budgets balanced. (And, not lay off officers.)

Fining people for parking violations is moronic in the first place, so I also blame local officials for writing shitty ordinances.

t. Someone who actually just got a parking ticket because I accidentally parked slightly too far from the curb in a suburban neighborhood.


It's not the 19th century, dipshit. Cops aren't breaking up strikes. (Also, the Pinkertons were far worse.)

You don't even know what a lumpen is. A lumpen is an unemployed person or a person who subsists through criminal/illegal activity.

Basically, stop spouting buzzwords. Cops aren't breaking up strikes, they're unionized workers, and "racism" isn't a huge issue (Hell, I'm fine with actual nigger lumpens getting scrutiny considering the crime rates in their areas)

Additionally, I also hate that there are no elections for local police in cities. County sheriffs have elections but not police chiefs, at least in my area.

Maybe cops should stop breaking the 4th amendment

The difference should be made on the line of organization vs the individual. First of all, my personal hate for pigs comes from my own personal experience as well as seeing them, you know, murder people in cold blood, on video, multiple times and nothing happening to them.

Second, the structural role of the police is that ultimately on the side of the state, which is on the side of capital. Many people in the working class believe that the police exist to keep people safe (they do, but your probably not one of those people), to uphold the law and bring justice to wrong doers and lawbreakers. This is, of course, a lie. Its a very important lie to keep in mind though, because it give the illusion that they are a public utility, that they exist for the public good of all citizens. Its this same lie we are told about most things in government, and infact its the lie that keeps most people in support of the state, because if they did not provide basic utilities and the necessities of life then they would be seen as what they are, armed thugs their to beat you back in line or kill you if you don't follow what they have told you to do.
You must recognize what the police are, they are an armed gang who can and will harm you, kill you or put you in a tiny box the rest of your life. They follow orders, they're soldiers, and as with all soldiers their are individuals among them that have sympathies for the people, probably because they believed the grand lie that's been told to them since their day of birth only to find they're a cog in a industrial murder machine. I have sympathy for these people, i could have easily been one of them myslef. However, my sympathy for these individuals ends when they actually do their jobs, and they will, against all sense of moral decency, follow these orders.

You see, the great thing about cops is they're the greatest way to realize what kind of society we live in, you see from the beginning we are told we live in an equal society, now this can easily be disproven by just existing long enough but another excellent example is to interact with a police officer. You see this individual, armed to the teeth with the ability to ruin or end you life with virtually no consequence and then you look at yourslef and know that if you were to punch this man in the face it would not end well, you might die. But if the cop were to do the same, it still would end terrible for you. If normal people did some of the things cops did, theyd get fucking lynched.

Not all cops are bad people, but the police are an armed institution with very little consequences for their own actions, they are an occupying force to keep the interests of capital in check.

If i could ask a question, how would you feel in armed men with no legal consequences for their actions suddenly occupied your town or city, and if you did anything to slight them your life may be over? How would you respond if, instead of the boys in blue you had them wear the uniform of an occupying army? Would you defend them when they lock away your family and friends and kill people on the street? Or would you treat them as they are, an armed occupying force. You know what people usually do to armed occupying forces that harm their community?

Cops mostly just exist to collect money.

If someone breaks into your house or your car and steals your shit, cops most likely won't give a damn and won't even lift a fucking finger about it.

Instead they spend their time setting up traps in traffic where they know people will be violating the law, and even if this is harmless, an officer can collect thousands of dollars in a couple of hours. As if we didn't pay enough taxes

I would gladly get rid of them, useless sacks of shit.

That's because strikes today are rare and meek, so there is little reason to try and break 'em up in the first place.


Police unions organize cops as police, not as labor.


Edgy.

The law is arbitrary; pic related.

Why just yesterday in France they anally raped an innocent man with a truncheon and then said it happened by accident, so yeh, fuck the police

kek

You ever been arrested? They think they live in an action movie and will go agro over every little thing.

Hell, they roughed me up pretty good for being a suicidal white boy.

They're indoctrinated to be fascist thugs by the system.


The vast majority are irredeemable class cucks, unlike say, the military.

Planning on joining the RCMP.

Ask me anything.

if you get stationed in BC how much CP are you going to distibute?

Aren't they known for corruption?

Edgy.

None.

There is definitely a lot of scandals with the RCMP, no doubt. If you want to learn about some of the big ones read about the scandals prior to the creation of CSIS. Really sketchy stuff.

my favourite RCMP fuck was when they were kidnaping people to make them watch gay porn because if they are gay the REDS might blackmail them.

*fuck up

yeah, because organized labor is dead already

what do you enjoy clubing more, seals or indigenous peoples?

Oddly enough one of my great grandfathers clubbed seals for a living.

they had it coming, they were resisting arrest.

Probably.

Little fucks made good money back in the day.

i hear seal meat is actually really good. like a dark steak.

Just because you don't see it happen doesn't mean it be like it is. They attack protestors all the time and sit in strikes all the time.


You missed the qualifier legalized. Also just because you have bought into ideology about other races doesn't mean the rest of us have.


Not an argument.

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i wonder why people don't them

They're here to repress my freedom and ensure my surplus labour gets stolen. We don't need police, just armed workers.

They are responsible for more suffering on a daily basis than every criminal organization put together. Criminals are just humans who disagreed with the majority.

What is the ordinary criminal but one who has committed the fatal mistake of endeavoring after
what is the people’s instead of seeking for what is his? He has sought despicable alien goods, has done
what believers do who seek after what is God’s. What does the priest who admonishes the criminal
do? He sets before him the great wrong of having desecrated by his act what was hallowed by the
State, its property (in which, of course, must be included even the life of those who belong to the
State); instead of this, he might rather hold up to him the fact that he has befouled himself in not
despising the alien thing, but thinking it worth stealing; he could, if he were not a parson. Talk with
the so-called criminal as with an egoist, and he will be ashamed, not that he transgressed against your
laws and goods, but that he considered your laws worth evading, your goods worth desiring; he will
be ashamed that he did not — despise you and yours together, that he was too little an egoist. But
you cannot talk egoistically with him, for you are not so great as a criminal, you — commit no crime!
You do not know that an ego who is his own cannot desist from being a criminal, that crime is his
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life. And yet you should know it, since you believe that “we are all miserable sinners”; but you think
surreptitiously to get beyond sin, you do not comprehend — for you are devil-fearing — that guilt is
the value of a man. Oh, if you were guilty! But now you are “righteous.”[Gerechte] Well — just put
every thing nicely to rights [macht Alles hübsch gerecht] for your master!

Mate, a bunch of hippies or Antifa protesting is not the same as strikers. Also, sitting in a store because you don't like their environmental practices is not a sit-in strike. Unless, you have evidence of recent sit-in strikes by workers that got cracked down brutally by police.


That is contradictory to the definition of lumpen. That's like saying a republican monarchy, a working capitalist, or a landless aristocrat.


The rest of my post was though.


All minorities are shit, including capitalists.


This. That is what I'm saying. The police is different nowadays because organized labor is dead. It's far more neutral towards workers. There are still plenty of problems, mostly with abusing ticketing for revenue. (The rest of the problems with the criminal system are mostly due to our slow-as-fuck court system and heavy bureaucracy.)

And, Teamsters organize as teamsters, not labor. :^)

But yes, as said before, that is why cops aren't the Pinkerton-esque reactionaries that they used to be. If they end up actually being turned into that sort of force again, then by all means, fuck the police. Otherwise, they aren't enemies.

What about those who deal hard, addictive drugs to low income communities?

Republican monarchy: a republic that derives its power from a figurehead
Working capitalist: the labor aristocracy
Landless aristocrat: author living off royalties, day trader living off securities
I refute it thus.


Finally found out who makes the crack
It's the suckers with the badges and the blue jackets

Threatened to beat the shit out of me for standing on the wrong sidewalk then harassed me for weeks after.

ALL COPS ARE BASTARDS

but that's just a lie

Kill yourself, nigger.

Regular proles are feeding capitalism, but they aren't enforcing private property and repressing revolutionaries like the police are. Porky isn't the only pig. The cops are also pigs.

I hear it's like a bad steak dipped in fish oil.
But their pelt makes the most beautiful vests Pic related.

You can just say any strikes or protests I bring up aren't "real." So I won't even bother.

Language is often contradictory it's part of this joke called life. One of the things that got me to stop worshiping the Gadsden flag as you do is that the purity of absolute definitions libertarianism and conservativism rely on is a house of cards that doesn't stand up to broader philosophical and scientific scrutiny. Legalized lumpens essentially means legalized criminals, you know that thing libertarians claim the government is with all their mafia analogies and "guns in the room?" It's not hard to imagine contradictory things being simpatico at a conceptual level, try it, it's called imagination.

I'm a cop myself.
If there is one institution, that could use entryism, it's the police. The left seems to hate the police so much, they gave the right-wing full access to them. (Although now that I learned the difference between left and liberals, I am glad I don't have liberals working here). But it leads to obvious problems, like Nazi attacks not being declared as such (real Nazis, they are a problem in Eastern Germany and thanks to botched funding by our intelligence service they manage to build up networks in Western Germany too) and we have some nasty sympathisers who squeeze both eyes and redeclare them to mere battery. Also looks better in the statistics.

Though I work in the Criminal Investigation. Believe me when I say, that I am doing the working class a favour. Racket bosses are basically unfettered porkies on steroids. Wherever they establish their base of operation, they suck in wealth from the surrounding families like an evil sponge. We risk out necks outside, but we don't have the full law and state support.

Also there are their downsides as well. When there are protests, they will call in every unit to watch them. They are afraid of left-wing protests. They make you drop any case you have just for it, which is ridiculous. Refusing the call will get you suspended and you may even lose your job.
Cop supply is bad. Sometimes despite the mobilisation, there are not enough cops, so when it's outside of the cities and it goes on longer than one day(G7 meeting, G20 meeting, atomic waste transport) we have to work 18 hours and sleep in busses for 6 hours with no compensation whatsoever. Also we have to take a piss in literal buckets. So you see, government's saving money wherever they can. Also sometimes there is not enough water around, so we have to ask protesters for some. And then there are stupid orders we have to fulfil like encircle protesters and arrest a certain amount, even if they did nothing wrong. Press is on our side, but I always feel bad doing it. (Although there are some particular nasty unruly liberals. Background check always reveal they have rich parents and they behave like they own you and that may even be true).
Not to say that we have our own black block, with name shields removed to prevent backtracking. Background checks make sure they are almost always right-wingers, so don't expect any mercy of them. They also utilise agent provocateurs. Yes that is a thing and talking about them will get you suspended.

Entry the fuck out of the police.

They defend the laws that keep porky in power and keep me down.

How do they justify it?

the war on drugs has resulted in 50% of our people in prison being there for non-violent reasons. it's worse than slavery,and it's for profit. Police contribute to it every day by tricking uneducated young stoners into letting them do searches, and then busting them for it. They then get the stoner to setup their dealer, and put him in prison. The stoner is forever unable to get federal aid for college from that point on. Cops ruin lives, and they feel good about themselves doing it. The education requirements are sad too resulting in insecure cops looking to show themselves and everyone around them just how much control they have over their lives– compensating for the fact they have none because they are uneducated thugs for the government.

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Ever thought about writing something for a newspaper?

I've been to a few protests in Germany, and I specifically remember in Frankfurt when they open the new ECB HQ that I sorta felt sorry for you guys. I remember how the entire city was completely clogged, seemingly mostly from police vehicles

I don't hate the police, In a large way I pity them and if I thought this was a society worth protecting I might be one myself. I like the idealized vision of police officers, of people searching for the truth against the falsehood of crime. The reality though is quantifiable "work" is done more than actual qualitative investigations and stopping of crimes. There are more police workers doing traffic stops and beat buillshit than actively working on investigations, because the state measures their work that way and investigations or getting some guy his stolen toaster back is hard and expensive. Not to mention drug crime nonsense and the incentive of asset forfeiture.

As I stated here so much of their work seems counter to their own interests. I don't want to hate them but on the other hand I see very little reason to be happy about their existence or optimistic about their chances of becoming "woke."

That actually does sound like good work. Good job.

If Dave wasn't a cop, the part would be filled by his neighbor Steve. If he didn't fill the part, his cousin-twice-removed Adam would do it. And so on *sniff*. The name on the tag doesn't matter to Porky, so long as there is any name on the tag. They are disposable labor, same as you and me. I mean, they're more likely to be a reactionary, but even then it's a probability, not a certainty.

Of course they would be an enemy in a combat situation, but there's nothing qualitatively different between them and any regular proles. Radicalizing the police and army might be an absolutely necessary part of a revolution. The Bolsheviks didn't win the civil war by shunning soldiers.

By all means, attack them if they're in the way of the revolution, but don't kid yourself that you're attacking a Porky.

Good post.

thing is, most policemen (i'm from post warsaw pact europe) are stupid as fuck, they are trained to and chosen as such, coupled with the completely unfounded superiority complex. i really doubt you could achieve anything noteworthy in turning them around.

incidentally, i feel the same way about most of the state burocracy, they walk in the same shoes and most of them could muster a prison sentence if judged by the damage caused.

what branch of leftistm do you identify with the most?

Kill yourself, liberal.

You do realize that I'm saying that America is not a real republic as well every modern liberal democracy. The only real republics were direct democracies such as Athens and Rome. (Switzerland as well.)

Republicanism is not liberalism.

(I recommend reading Benjamin Constant's, an actual porky-tier liberal, work. Representative "democracy" is a recent invention and individualist "liberty" is a modern concept as well.)

Not a lolbert, mate. The Gadsden flag comes from the Continental Marines in the Revolutionary War. The general concept wasn't individualism, but America as a whole defending from foreign, imperialist rule. This is seen with the "Join or Die" flag.

Modern "lolbert" arguments are pure garbage and liberal individualism is bogus. The issue is not that there are police or that government exists. The issue is that the policing powers rest in a group of people that are unaccountable and we are not the government. I'm fine with paying taxes and following rules if I participated directly in the making of said rules and elected the leader of law enforcement. (And can recall my sheriff at any time.)

Basically, lolberts oppose federal regulations because of muh individualism, I oppose it because that power rightfully belongs to state and local governments, which are closer or have the potential to be closer to the people.

That's actually pretty interesting. (Though, I honestly sympathize with the Nazis in East Germany. The working class got extremely screwed over there by globalist neoliberalism. That and I heard they tend to Asserists.)