Communism is impossible unless you're ready to execute literally a billion people. You know who
It's naive to believe they'll ever give up thier monstrous beliefs and practices. They've raping and hanging gays since the day Mohammed the pedo capitalist warlord had his first seizure in the cave
Really, we just need to leave them out of our communist state, along with niggers and other lumpens. Then Communism can actually have some success
Bro, do you even science?
It is anti-humanist after all
oh wow look at that, the former socialist states have moderate and secular muslims
How does that affect me here though
The world is overpopulated though, so those deaths matter not. Seven and a half billion people.
Honestly we should just kill everyone, starting with you. Gotta solve that overpopulation.
Muslim societies don't exist in a vacuum. There is no such thing as a transcendental, ahistorical "Islam".
If Islamic beliefs are what they are today, that's because of the material conditions that shape those very beliefs. If you are born to a rigidly patriarchal family in a rural village dominated by traditional religious figures where access to basic education is not a given, it goes without saying that you're very likely to develop retarded social views.
The only way to undo that is by pushing secularization (urbanization, education, state neutrality, women's right, etc) so that Islam goes through the same process Christianity did — a transition that would probably be over already had Western imperialism not bombed the Middle East back into the Stone Age to begin with.
It's only a matter of time, really. A significant portion of European-born Muslim youth are already pretty secularized and I see no reason for that trend reversing — unless the ruling class keeps enacting dumb populist policies specifically designed to piss off the Muzzies.
''The foundation of irreligious criticism is: Man makes religion, religion does not make man. Religion is, indeed, the self-consciousness and self-esteem of man who has either not yet won through to himself, or has already lost himself again. But man is no abstract being squatting outside the world. Man is the world of man – state, society. This state and this society produce religion, which is an inverted consciousness of the world, because they are an inverted world. Religion is the general theory of this world, its encyclopaedic compendium, its logic in popular form, its spiritual point d’honneur, its enthusiasm, its moral sanction, its solemn complement, and its universal basis of consolation and justification. It is the fantastic realization of the human essence since the human essence has not acquired any true reality. The struggle against religion is, therefore, indirectly the struggle against that world whose spiritual aroma is religion.
Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people.
The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness. To call on them to give up their illusions about their condition is to call on them to give up a condition that requires illusions. The criticism of religion is, therefore, in embryo, the criticism of that vale of tears of which religion is the halo.''
Now bugger off
I'm cool with that
They…aren't. Those are the biggest group in foreign fighters in ISIS actually.
Get on my level son
More like 6.1. The East German method worked pretty well though, genocide is excessive.
Most of the guys joining ISIS have a history of not caring all that much about Islam — heck, I even recall one of 'em even bought a "Islam for Dummies" kind of book before leaving for Syria or something of that effect. Besides, they remain a tiny minority anyway.
I know it's anecdotal but I can assert that most of my French Muslim friends really aren't all that less secularized than non-believers or modern Christians — they smoke pot, fap to anime and don't go to the Mosque. They've already started the transition to "cultural Muslims".
Yes, remember these poor rural villagers that flew airplanes into skyscrapers, commiting the most lethal terrorist attack in the modern age…wait a minute they were actually middle class dudes that had engineering degrees from European universities and could've lived a good life there.
It turns out that most terrorists are actually middle class people and European Muslims actually make up a big share of active terrorist groups.
What about their leader? Goddamn he's actually a mutli-millionaire par of a clan that possesses construction empire!
How does this fit together?
First revolution in america, because we need their military. Then after both North and South America are atheist we can liberate the middle east, there's no reason to go there now. Just keep their refugees out.
Really makes you fire your synapses.
Retarded meme, it's basically "if someone tells you they'll kill you if you say you're a muslim probably best not to say it"
The fact that it's portrayed as sinister is seriously autistic
Virgin right wing autists exist in every culture, who knew
yeah that means smoke weed and watch anime so your friends don't know you want to kill them that's what that means actually
How do we know you're not doing it right now if your religion prescribes it? :^)
How do you feel about Hitler's, Himmler's, Evola's etc views Islam?
Lol yeah and then remember when that one really upper class brown guy said that he was fighting a holy war in the name of his god to bring freedom to all the blasphemous hordes?
No wait it was a white guy named George. Totally not Jihad though.
Good one, maybe I also control the really easy to google explanations at your fingertips right now.
Pretty funny that you think that's not a sign that maybe the motivation is a little more complicated than religious doctrine. Nah can't be
Can someone please explain to me why some people think that comparing contemporary Islam to Christianity of a thousand years ago supposedly constitutes some type of defense of it?
It makes it look way worse in my eyes, haha.
Albania used to be Muslim, religion isn't something set in stone you twerp.
I'm talking about George W Bush dipshit
That was Muhammed before he died, he already lost one battle against the Byzantines in a war he started.
Guess who will be the first?
It's almost like Albania was ruled by an authoritarian dictator that ruthlessly suppressed religious expression for decades
Are you trying to say that all religion is bad because I agree with you.
really makes you think
NO! We have to appease Muslims even more! You are doing what ISIS wants!
Teah that's actually exactly my whole point, sperging out about Islam specifically as if it's not always the porky leaders who make use of it is retarded
Fight the heads of the snake not the billions on the ground floor. The brainwashed masses fighting for Bin Laden are no different from the brainwashed masses fighting for W and neither are the enemy.
Albania is still muslim.
…so maybe existence of Islam isn't really the problem?
Is this the daily apologetism thread?
Is this were I can come to defend an imperialist and patriarchal iron age death cult and still call myself leftist?
No this is where you come in and pretend religion is a bottom up problem as opposed to a top down problem and propose retarded Holla Forums-tier solutions to the problem
Right, the West invented the Muslim Brotherhood. Never change Holla Forums
Tunesia is in Europe now?
No, they should starve. Seize the means of production then destroy them.
lol who the fuck even implied that? You think the brotherhood put down the Arab Spring?
Funny how that outlier exists in the middle east while having a single western country not devolving into fascism right now would be the outlier
Can't wait for Holla Forums to screen cap this and tell everyone how the communists are advocating genocide now. Cuz that's what we need.
Someone should tell Holla Forums, I don't think they know that the EU has collapsed into its squabbling components and run by fascist dictators
actual leftypol knows that islam is shit but that the solution is to get rid of the porkies spreading the ideology, especially the extremist strains.
Holla Forums is just too autistic to ever offer a solution to a problem that isn't genocide
Not really. They we're just democratically elected in Egypt. More accurate would be to say arabs put down the Arab Spring.
Do you honestly believe that there was no western intervention in putting down the arab spring?
Yes fellow leftists! I totally agree and also imperialism is actually not even that bad and also Israel is good too
No I don't. Someone took down Qaddafi after all :^)
Kek'd Honestly though is there some thread on Holla Forums about coming here to shitpost about Islam daily? It would be pretty illuminating
I was in Egypt during the initial revolution. I can tell you the revolution was composed of mostly young secular Egyptians while brotherhood was voted in by mostly old farts. Not even close to equivalent
who? Holla Forums? Holla Forums? The PR crew needs to fucking die, we're in an imageboard.