New Maoist Emergence in the USA

Nah fam, the liberals hate muh 6 gorillion more than us, trust me. Remember this is Maoists, so they'd be spouting endless Idpol and the libs would be licking it up

Happens every time ;)

This really isn't true lmao

Maybe some background:

In my early days of moving further to the Marxist side (from an ancom position), the now defunct Kasamaproject (US) provided great inspiration for me, because they shared real life experience on organizing factory workers, work with ghettos, etc.

They had great articles about 21st century communism, great critiques of the 20th, and some articles explaining modern theorists like Badiou, Althusser.

I'm interested because beyond the mainstream "SJW" Maoism – I'm convinced – there still lingers a Maoism that works with the masses, not against them.

You know nothing.

extrapolate

They're pulling the long con. Soon China will declare full socialist restoration after they've used the capitalists to finance their industrialization. The People's Liberation Army will bring socialism to the world, and the capitalists will have sold them the rope with which they'll be hanged!

This is so naive I don't even know where to begin to debunk it.

One can hope.

This is no better than hoping that St. Nicholas will bring Communism in his bag this year.

Literally one of the primary reasons the new left failed

jiminykrix.wordpress.com/2016/09/14/what-maoism-has-to-offer-the-world-and-why-so-many-former-non-communists-think-its-dope/

Maoism has fuck all to do with the New Left

Wrong. Mautism was one of the main reasons for the fall of the Students for a Democratic Society movement. Don't pretend that the PLP was not mautist.

Thx for reading the thread, fgt

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Are you actually prepared to give us the concrete conditions under which said party collapsed, or are you just a general shill, who labels everything from the past as a failure without lessons?

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Are you actually going to propose what to do differently, instead of just clinging to outdated analysis, theory and praxis? What lead to the fall of the SDS was the divisions caused by Mautist groups who insisted on clinging to an outdated understanding of revolution. Mautism is ultimately a self defeating ideology, one that cannot assess a changing system of capitalism and changing classes.

Holla Forums has a lot of newfriends now who think Maoism = jason unruhe, if they even are that far along

be patient and explain things

I actually already did:

I have no idea what you call "outdated," but compared to your "humanist" and religio-ecological standpoint, I think that the likes of Kasamaproject did perfectly well establishing a prole/ghetto base of power and trying to work "upward" from there.

I have NO IDEA what you call "outdated," tbh! Compared to the 20th century there are objectively more proletariat globally than ever before!

Be specific or get to be thrown at the wall, tbh!

You are not even trying to be constructive! All you do here is: "LE LOL, IMA VERY SRS REVOLUTION MAN, EVERYONE ELSE IS FGT!" – the very same attitude you supposedly oppose!

You've posted that before and we already analyzed how it was an identity politics ridden piece of crap written by a Redditor from /r/Communism - aka tankie central - which massively misrepresents the status of the Naxalites and overemphasizes the usefulness of some fairly basic and hardly universal applicable concepts as being somehow a perfect route to socialism. 0/10, Maoism a shit.

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Maoism ruined leftism.

Marx ruined leftism.

Lo and behold, we are still at OP post, that is, asking Americunt faggots of their actual experience in/about these groups!

Just keep in mind that so called "comrades" who shitpost without reference are basically faggots who don't give a single shit about the communist movement in America.

Let's make it clear what is really happening ITT (and IRL):
ok, but why?
ok, are you willing to actually engage them?
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No further comments required…

The Black Panthers were Maoist and they were the only decent left wing American group in the last 90 years

Maoism offers the correct approach for gaining socialist power

Anarchists will be crushed

I'll admit to that. There is legitimately zero hope for leftism in America. This is a nation so delusional and right wing that it has somehow managed to convince its population that liberals are left wing. Every attempt to deal with the misery caused by capitalism just caused them to beg for daddy Porky's cock further up their ass. It's a shame nuking the place would make the rest of the world uninhabitable also.

It requires a specific kind of spontaneity to read this book and conclude that Marx was a cuck, tbh.

In all honesty, Proudhon was respected by Marx… and then NOT… Why? Because Marx began to understand the commodity form.

If you keep on shilling for Proudhon after Marx's interjection you are fucking filth, tbh!

You think that it can go on, but it objectively can't!

Proudhon was BTFO by marx and all your anarchist attempts at reawakening are a fucking JOKE!

Lelninst are not meant to be taken serious

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That's not how it works, tbh.

YEAH, NO!

This, so called "Nation" has already convinced itself that a 'nigger' who wants "world-peace" is much more in favor of what the nation wants than the general electorate.

MEANWHILE!!!!

THE FUCKING GENERAL ELECTORATE WANTS THIS FUCKING NIGGER TO FORFEIT ITS POSITION AND ESTABLISH A POSITION THAT GIVES AWAY THE REAL POWER TO THE PEOPLE!

>fugen nigers

The entire marxist tradition is an outdated one
Outdated, as in looking at history through the lenses of someone who lived in the 19th century. As in, not realizing that capitalism is an evolving system, and that classes evolve along with it. You can label communalism whatever you want, but it's no substitute for actually understanding what it is and being able to critique it. The best you can do is try to construct a strawman, and it's very easy for anyone who actually knows what communalism is to point out that it is a strawman. The "proletariat" itself is an outdated notion, "class consciousness" a phenomena that exists only in theory.
PLP and WSD.
Just because you don't like what I'm saying does not mean it's not constructive. If you want to seriously understand the alternative to marxist dogmatism, I'd be more then happy to help you to understand communalism.

Okay OP you have my attention, where should I begin reading Maoism?

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you mean like, using under hand means to wrest control of the international from its most popular member like the kniving kike he was?

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another antisemitic anarchist, what a surprise

From the very first chapter of the Communist Manifesto:
Why haven't you kys like you've been told to, liberal?

I have NO idea what you are trying to mean here, tbh. Again, I'd like to concentrate the common attention to this:

prz enlighten me on what you actually mean, dear black flag postah

And they opposed the PLP, another mautist group. It's almost like marxism is prone to sectarianism and infighting

Thx for yout deep analysis, dear eco-man. I wish that all could have such earth-shattering views as you, ffs!

What are you trying to prove by quoting this? That Marxism has kept up with the evolving system when it still relies historical and systemic analysis from the 19th century? Please.

Marx knived to exclude Proudhon from the international at a key moment, thus making it a predominantly Marxist and not predominantly Proudhonian organisation, which is I suppose in fitting with ML theory but is still a treacherous bourg thing to do to a comrade just because he is more popular than you are

Your whole quote-marathon is ridiculous and melts into the air, tbh!

Terrific

It's good to see left parties group together rather than splintering, even if they are Maoists.

That's if they can even get enough members, which I seriously doubt they'll be able to.

What the Church of Originalist Librul Americuck Marxlarp does is irrelevant to whether there's something useful, i.e. predictive or explanatory, to be found in the literature. Used-god sales culture and Belieberism is a problem, I agree.

Respect the sperg's wishes, won't you?

WOW!
Thanks for your feedback, dork!
Unfortunately, there was a problemz! :🍀🍀🍀(

Idk! Probably because we are still under the yoke of private property, or sg!

Wew, friend, le moyist is sure important to all of us! I can't remember a time when we lived accordingly of your hegemonic intentions!
For us your "LE HEGEMONNEY" shit is meaningless, m8!

We want to abolish this ORDER AS SUCH, k, m8?

True, but it's not merely the praxis that I'm disputing. The theory itself leaves much to be desired. In the context of the 19th and early 20th century, it was certainly revolutionary, but we've gone beyond a time of it's usefulness. I'm not saying that we should abandon a dialectical view of history, or that class should be ignored, but that we need to turn to a more modern look at dialectics and class i.e. Murray Bookchin's Communalism.

BUT NOT JUST THIS
and not to mention this ridiculous faggots account:

WE GO INDEPENDENT FROM THESE

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Honestly, as much as I shit on everyone, I'm just glad to have more far leftists at all. Uniting the left is a nigh impossible task, but making a one-man world revolution is even more impossible.

lel holy shit did we break him? Can't even tell what you're trying to say at this point

Maybe that your fag-tier "environmentalism" is nothing more basically than your faggy petit-bourg drooling over your Earth-fetishism?

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NOH WAY, M8, IMA FREE SPIRAT FAGGOT LELEELLEELLELE

w8w, u so free, m8, i wanna becum U, m8!!!

t. never read bookchin. Social Ecology =/= Enviromentalism. This is what I was talking about earlier, you can't actually say anything of substance regarding bookchin.

Maoism and identity politics are indivisible.

read theanarchistlibrary.org/library/lupus-dragonowl-against-identity-politics

I'm not even an anarchist, but I've got to say, thr analyis is good.

I'll share my experience with Maoists and why they suck.

Maoists are fucking cancer. I should also mention that there is a pretty heavy pool of left-wing activists where I live, since its a heavily unionized town surrounded by indigenous reserves. These cunts have managed to alienate basically every single one of them, I know plenty of dedicated socialists, anarchists and indigenous activists who won't touch them with a ten foot pole.

OH, WOW!

I'M IN A POSITION TO OVERWRITE YOU ALL!

OH, WOW!
WELL HERE IT GOES, M8S!

==THIS WHOLE FUCKERY HAS BEEN DUE TO MR. FUCKERY'S ACKNOWLEDGEMENT! BUT WHAT HAS CHANGED?! MOST LIKELY THE FACT THAT WE, WE AS "FUGGEN AWESOMES" ARE CONSIDERED KKK!

But IRL, it is totally different! We are NOT connecting to this strange category!

wut

I fucking hate this country, but I can never help but laugh at our students' stupidity.

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Are you the guy who complained about Red Guards Austin some time ago?

Are you the guy who complained about Red Guards Austin some time ago or someone else?

Oh wait never mind I misread, are you talking about people from the PCR-RCP?

this thread is the face of Anglo communism, tbh

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I'd argue the growth of any potential allies, or those open to Communist ideas, is a good thing.

Honestly, they wouldn't even need to drop dollar bills, just keep rolling out the blue and green lady pills, and they can get every fucking half-bit anarchist in the states to do their bidding.

It's like a reverse Opium War, this time with China dropping more oxys then Days N' Daze.