How would sports exist in a communist society?

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Not as they do today

Your universe is a giant spook, without spooks there would literally be nothing.

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No, nationalism is the only way to get the masses to be productive. Otherwise the society crumbles in apathy.
Your individuality is whatever you define it. And it can be used to achieve and fulfill the team goals.
You should try playing as part of a team user, you'd might feel fulfilled for the first time in your life instead of spitting venom at peoples beliefs and goals.
Without beliefs and goals there's no point in living. You might as well kill yourself.

You're comparable to a drugged up heroin abuser. Sedated and indulging in nothing but those that give the best sensations.
Getting the best sensation doesn't get shit done. Having goals and overcoming the mountains gets shit done.

You're just spooked as hell, kill yourself

You're spooked user.
I'm self aware.

Compared to how it works now? Where you get fed shit overprice food, the workers get sweatshop style labor, and the team owners rake in all the profits through use of government anti competition.
Hmm, it would be very different.
Shooting a ball in a hoop doesn't deserve millions of dollars but neither does owning a team of people that shoots balls into hoops deserve hundreds of millions.

At least you get fed.

lol what gave you the impression I was going to play your spergy game. Your paradigm makes no sense and the axioms it's based on are fucking retarded. Kindly unspook yourself and come back when you have real material things to discuss.

Ease up on the insubstantive pablum and talk like a normal human being you autist. No one here said not to work in tandem with other human beings, but picking "teams" - especially ones based on color or nationality - is literally grade school tier "self-awareness"

Any of them.

However sports as for-profitspectacle would not go.
I have the suspicion that we would gravitate towards variety once the massive profits and distracting-the-popuation subsidies goaway.

I'm going to have to be the doubles advocate here.
Even if you don't think race is real, people vary in more ways than skin color.
A subset of race, which your family is a tiny subset of. Is being on a "team" with people relate to you "grade school tier".
BTW that is ageism, you bully.

oh boy

All advertising and money grabbing schemes would be removed, so it would be much better

fuck off

Nice arguments, fuckboy.

There are no more arguments to be made.

Is that so? Weak and indefensible beliefs you have then.

You don't understand. We've entered into the post-argument epoch. All argumentation has become obsolete.

Lurk more.

That's a big claim, I hope you have a very very good argument to defend it.
How did things happen before nationalism was invented?

This board really is as blind as a bat.

At least I
don't talk like a fucking uninspired unempathetic robot.>No one here said not to work in tandem with other human beings, but picking "teams" - especially ones based on color or nationality - is literally grade school tier "self-awareness"

You can leave the team, just don't expect favors for betrayal. Without trust, deals and negotiations are stalled.
This is why this board is lagging behind Holla Forums. You haven't started to break marx's shackles. You follow it by the book like the bible. Be pragmatic, be empathetic and you will create an institution that functions better aesthetically AND economically with people. Not robots who just take orders.

You can't woo a girl by saying "fuck me bitch". Even hookers need a reason or purpose for their action. But communism fails to appeal to the emotive aspects of the human race. It's more suited for a robot.

I have no idea what happened to that post.. woops.

Holy shit, there's no way you're serious

Right?

lurk yourself

Defending your village was the norm forevermore.

I'd say not an argument, but I guess the time for arguments is over.

stefan pls

A capitalist nation is not the equivalent of a village.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

It's always existed. As pointed out by

The capitalist state exists to establish a militia. The militia exists to protect the property owners and people aligning with the ideals it seeks to protect. It exists as a largescale collective or union of individual states, which are a union of individual districts, which are a union of individual property owners. You can claim independence as long as you can defend it.
A village is a collective of property owners too user. They are equivalent.

Can you define nationalism to me then? Wanting to defend your village is nothnig close to nationalism.

OP here, can we talk about sports

I just did define it to you. Defending your village, no matter how large it gets (multiple villages) is nationalism.

That is one abstract village right there, considering it is simultaneously one and multiple villages.

Did you fellow citizens whatch the sportball match last night? Local team really moped the floor with rival team

For the sake of fun and bragging rights.

Competition is a spook foisted upon the people by the ruling classes in order to reinforce notions of hierarchy. Humans are naturally given to cooperation. Sports ought to be abolished.

Not quite. But in this day and age it almost is because the doctrine of open borders has been indoctrinated to such an extent that people are frightened of closing it for national security issues. The reason why is simply because it makes them look like they are rejecting a race of individuals for no basis. The fact is they are rejecting them because a significant proportion is actively subverting them.

To add to nationalism, it needs more than villages as physical buildings, it needs villages as cultural entities, it needs to be "home" to it's inhabitants. A place is home when people settle with each other in mutual agreeance, as independent self arbitrators, to not attack or do harm to another. When people do harm to one another, it is a crime. When they break "rules", "morals" or "terms" of this agreement, they get a penalty. If they break the agreement, they are not party to the agreement, like how a foreigner is not party to the state.

Nationalism is not a mere contract, it's an agreement to adhere to "terms" or "morals, law, culture, language, etc". It also adds the concept of purpose, goal and inspired direction. It's when a collective dreams and can also work to mould the dreams of the individuals. It adds structural integrity to meet a defined goal, then branches goals out until it meets the individuals dream. If an individual dreams, he can find a place to construct the "grand dream" so to speak. Even a dissenter has his use and that is where this board comes in. Of course, without that dream, there is no place for that person's own dream, there's no mould to construe the society around that person.

That's how I see it memetically anyway.

Apologies. But I consider life almost a sport with the aim of the game to "not die"

Humans both cooperate and fight. It's how we solve problems.

I love watching sports, and I've actually thought about adding an article about "sports under socialism" to my video series.

You guys are missing some huge points.

• Sports under socialism would be even better than they are now. Peek this article:

nytimes.com/2013/11/03/opinion/sunday/in-the-nba-zip-code-matters.html

When income is removed as a factor for who gets training, preparation and hope then competition would flourish. How many kids are just stuck drug dealing, shitty jobs, or lacking proper nutrition to realize their athletic potential? Lebron James is just one example people love to hold up as "look at him, he did it!". But he's the isolated exception. How many Lebrons are out there never having been discovered for being the next Wayne Gretzky or Michael Jordan of their respective sports? Removing the hostage portion of capitalism (work or die) would give untold masses of people to chances to compete instead of just those with enough money for training and preparation like Stephen Curry (how many Steph Curry's, or even those who could've surpassed him never got to see the light of day because their parents weren't NBA players?)

• Removing the money aspect would be a ridiculous blessing. Even nowadays they have ads on jerseys in basketball and soccer (basketball being the latest to adopt this moneygrubbing aspect), ridiculously lengthy commercials that completely disrupt the flow of the game, fucking ads everywhere that meets the eye (scorers tables, the arena stands, etc). Teams would also have to adopt different schemes to distribute talent, and just "taking less money" wouldn't be an option anymore. I can imagine a tier system to players, with different tiers being assigned every year to different players and teams only being able to sign so many of "E Tier" types and etc. Money is the worst thing that ever happened to sports, and I for one would love to see this removed.

• This kind of goes with point one, but socialism would inherently be a healthier system than capitalism taking in the sports angle. Schools the world over would have first class basketball courts, soccer fields and equipment, without having to worry about whether they are "a wealthy school that can afford it". Kids would be healthier, more would have access to great equipment and the opportunity to develop themselves fitness wise as well as socially. Take in mind that under socialism fast food ads and a whole industry (think the sugar industry recently and their efforts to downplay its effects on health) behind unhealthy lifestyle would be completely gone. Children would thrive, and I say this as someone who thinks that sports are a great thing for children to participate in mostly to condition them socially to understand teamwork and being apart of a greater whole.

Like, you guys are here talking about how sports are used *as of now* to promote nationalism and keep people splintered. This isn't a sports issue, this is a capitalism issue. Sports have been around in many societies for ages, and people do root for different factions its not like Roman legions splintered because they got the news that the greens won the chariot races rather than the blues. Remember to look deeper into the bedrock, how is sports used within society as it exists materially?

Sports would be multitudes better under socialism, and would exist within a framework to make the world a better place instead of as both an enforcer of splintering tendencies and a motor for profit generation.

Pic related: when people confuse their dislike of sports with actual disagreements with the concept itself as to how it would help socialist society.

What would happen to mountain biking under communism?

Will I get bikes fro free?

Who /heem/ here

Mountain bikes would probably be better made, by people who genuinely enjoy mountain bikes. Your passion for mountain biking would probably mean you could join the mountain biking labor collective to perhaps publish instructional manuals all about it, perhaps take part in a publication where people would photograph themselves MB'ing in exotic places for the enjoyment of people who would want to read such publications, the opportunities go on.

Your joy would literally by your life, as all labor should be. Although for a couple hours or so every week you would also do other communally needed things, perhaps some labor for the local sewage organization or what not. But that is to be expected in a society that provides for all. Your life, and your hobby would be your own.

Wtf love communism now!!

I didn't know that was an actual problem with mountain bikes. Do you have any articles or reading?

the goy distract the masses

You forgot that we give everyone a participation trophy and don't recognize winners. This is a serious issue that needs to be mentioned.

Slme frames are know to break on specific aras after certain amount of time, kona and norcomare known for doing so

Same with seized bearings onmrocker arms and blown seals in air spings

Its common on model specific threads in mountainbike forums

Thank you user. I cherish the opportunity to expand my knowledge with your very niche knowledge, and it never ceases to amaze me how far capitalism spreads into people's lives and hobbies. That sounds really shitty.

You must live a sad life if ur only important things are monies and muh cuntry.

No.
Though your skills would be used to contribute to mountain bike production.