Why do people in 2017 still think the far right is our greatest threat/enemy?

When they stop being poison they can come in. Until then, they would be parasites.

That's what I'm saying our job is.

Liberal Welfare States =/= Demsoc, Liberal welfare states don't hang usurers they tax them. Capitalism is a very different creature when usury and speculation are illegal and the great investments of the age are democratic or national.

The argument against demsoc is literally "people will be too happy to become extremist retards!". Sounds pretty good to me.

So we literally kill them if they lean to far to the right of the spectrum but the liberals get a pass? I wonder why someone would think that's a good idea. Preferably we'd want people who aren't super-political rn but who are looking for an alternative, any group of people who are super-indoctrinated (liberals or Holla Forums) are going to be tough converts. They just have different problems. Liberals can lean left but rarely do they fully stop being liberal; whereas rightists who convert to the Left usually go all out (from what I've heard even a lot of antifa are former fa)

This basically. Why would anyone want anymore liberal cancer then we already have since Reddit/Wolff we haven't been able to deal with that influx and it's killing this board. Their doing a better job of changing this board then we are doing of changing them

I believe you're thinking of socdem. Yes, there's a huge difference.

In the original conception, welfare was the tool neoliberalism was going to use to keep people from rebelling.

Fuck no, liberalism is a parasite that kills leftism and wears its skin. A left movement that absorbs liberals ends up completely abandoning class politics in favor of something else.

A lot of democrat/republican, liberal/conservative/ndp voters in north america really don't know the first thing about liberalism or the right wing except "liberalism is like gay marriage and abortions right?", these are the people I mean.
Are the experiences you've heard mostly from imageboard users?

Not adopt liberalism you fucking retard. Find liberals. Make them not liberals anymore.

Unfortunately, liberalism is not merely partisanship, but a pervasive, expansionist, far-right, self-regarding ideology that informs everything they think they know about authority and power. Conversion is not likely to be effective. I doubt anything short of re-education would be.

The far right will have its run, but they're starting to be viewed with the same disdain as SJWs.

People will sooner or later start to hate identity politics and maybe shift to more economic concerns. Hopefully, that is when the left can move in. Promoting workers co-ops and workers rights would be one thing.

Identity is only a concern until you start to get hungry. When you're more worried about where you're going to sleep or where your next meal is coming from you don't have time to worry about nonsense like gender or orientation or whatever.

My point exactly. This post gender theory bullshit is pointless. Idpol is a tool used by upper class liberals and stormfags to divide and conquer.

Considering that most aren't liking the two, because of how deranged they are, it's likely class will be a focus. The question is, how do you despook them, of their idpol?

They are, of course, not, and anyone who tells you otherwise might be mentally challenged. Not because our views are opposed – they are – but simply because they are utterly powerless. Nazis are ridiculed, they are not the threat of the 20s and 30s.
I also think liberalism is the greatest enemy, and not even because they are complicit in furthering free market capitalism. It's because you hear IRL or read on the internet time and time again how people say that they were once leftists/socialists, but because of the SJW and idpol shit, they don't consider themselves that anymore, turned to the right. This is costing us millions of potential comrades. Utterly disgusting. Idpol is a literal cancer on the left.

This. Idpol must be purged. We need anti idpol leftists to get into the mainstream

Oh look it is the right wing nazi trying to use communists to fuck with liberals so he can gain more power.

If liberalism is gone you are going towards fascism, and nazism and there is nothing stopping them

Liberalism has to be removed after the death of the right wing

Not an argument im a socialist
Liberals stop any form of leftism or rightism to be frank from coming out
but due to the nature of class, if liberalism is removed then there is a much higher chance of far leftism vs porkism

Biggest threats to society:

First it was religion, now it's communism.
At least facism makes you try to be stronger.

You do realize you're using the word NEOliberalism, right? The entire meaning of the word is that it's the new wave of Classical Liberalism that arose in the 80s and started to disband the social services and state interventions that had been championed by the previously dominant Keynesian interpretation of liberalism.

You're talking to two different people

no one said he was, doesn't stop Bannon from being a white nationalist

Most people in the US didn't vote, and plenty of them were working class people who would never vote Republican and were abandoned by the Democrats. Those people are already fed up with establishment bullshit why start from scratch trying to despook diehards when these people are already primed?

I heard antifa didn't like commies.

The biggest threat to Leftism are the new wave of so-called Libertarians and Classical Liberals. Both of them seem to love evolutionary psychology and other genetic fields, which keep providing "evidence" for the justification of sex and race castes plus even economic classes.

The whole field seems to be full of MUH STEM reactionaries and the likes of Kevin MacDonald.

Liberalism is a right-wing ideology that is explicitly anti-communist. Fascism is simply liberalism's self-defense. Stop pretending you're not part of the problem. liberal.