Diablo 3 to be the only Blizzard game with no news at Blizzcon

They dropped it, but the game was still a mess I believe.

They lost that in an urgent redesign because the game was a critical bomb. Kicked most of the team over to WoW and a few to Destiny at Bungie for The Taken King. They tried to 'save' it but the damage was done and only so much outside of the core game could be changed. Its barely above 'okay' at best now. Its significance only seems to be the last attempt with its mini necromancer expansion of Blizzard seeing if drones buy things that are largely 1-4 player and without a 'game as a service' whale farm lockbox thrown in.
The changes suggest that no, drones wont buy unless it has a cash shop/lockbox system anymore.

Like i said, full Valve.

Come on user

slightly offtopic, I heard some Diablo 2 update fucked the game up massively, which one was it?

They're getting ready to ruin the next Diablo with Sjw-leftist pandering (ready to have trannies talk about gender fluid shit and all the Anti-Trump/Rapefugee-support shit dumped into Diablo?!). More than half of the D3 team quit or were sent to Legion. Reminder that Blizzard purposely blew off and half-assed Diablo's 25th anniversary because making a Social Justice Watch character gay let alone having a gay character in Social Justice Watch had way more priority than one of their fucking games turn 25 fucking years-old. I can never forgive Blizzard. I haven't followed Blizzard shit in a while (Legion is still shit). What's new besided Diablo 3 being dead?

But user! you get to preview the next season feature! the damage numbers can no go to BILLIONS TO TRILLIONS! oh, and get the next adventure pack for 15 dollary-doos too.

They had the chance to do just that when they released the Necromancer but decided the class alone was worth the 15 shekels. Besides, why would we need new content when we get a new class to play the old content with?

After all this time, I still can't remember any of the music from Diablo 3. Did it even have music?!

v1.10 :^)

Ia there any good ports to play Diablo 1 or 2 on modern systems?

how are the gauntlet games?
I've only played Gauntlet for the NES, it was alright.

It
had
NOTHING

Fuck off, Titan Quest, Torchlight and PoE are all hot garbage
I don't know about grim dawn, but I'd mostly likely rather just play fucking Diablo 2 or Diablo 1, vanilla or with mods

Wrong. Stupid. Dumb.

Torchlight fucking sucks.

You ever tried dungeon siege ? The first and the second are pretty decent games.

Dungeon Siege is nice but one can't play it on modern systems. steam being the kikes they are took down the fix to it.

Damn for reals ? And I thought that microsoft taking down the multiplayer was a dick move.

It's not on Gog either, people are asking for it and I really hope it gets the port it deserves.
same with Diablo.

here's a funfact for ya buddy: diablo was never good the gameplay style is 100% trash and was purely a result of the restrictions placed on games by the weak hardware of the time

Aren't they releasing a HD version of Diablo 2?

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Get the HD mod
diablo1.ovh.org/hd/

thanks, user

There's also "The Hell" mod that completely reworks it. Much harder, recommended.

It had like 2 gb of uncompressed audio as an optional download, split on several files

I have to agree with that guy Titan Quest looks nice but has a horrifically slow early game with not a lot of interesting skills or items, Torchlight becomes a spammy clusterfuck and I hate that generic pastel color scheme, and PoE is always online so it's automatically shit (it's pretty good, fuck always online though)

Gauntlet Dark Legacy is fun as fuck with friends.

Nigger no. Play Gauntlet IV.

TQ is the definition of bland and Torchlight is the most boring game ever made. Sacred 1 is possibly the only good Diablo derivative.

You got one class for 15$ this year, what else do you want?
Blizzcon? Fuck off.

Any details on this?

Meaning we're getting news on Rock'n'Roll Racing?
And Lost Vikings?
And Diablo 1 and 2?

D3 was casual only fun on a console with friends. Why anyone cares at all what happens with it at this point is silly, unless loot grind clicky clicky "ARPG" #73 is your thing, in which case there are plenty more where that came from.

You've probably heard that it's what this emote-using dipshit said. To elaborate a bit, 1.10 made the enemies much stronger, and overhauled skills to contribute bonuses to each other which seriously reduces how much variety your character can have by end game, and proliferates cookie cutter builds. They also added class overlap in the form of oskill items (Enigma runeword for teleport being most noteworthy) and aura-granting items (absurd Infinity runeword).

sounds like shit, thanks for the help

Blizzard has never made a single good game. You are eating shit.

I don't understand why they've essentially left D3 to rot. Blizzard made an absolute shit ton of money off D3 it's one of the greatest selling PC games of all time, whether you like it or not

They should be shitting out paid content for it regularly but they aren't. Necromancer came out three years after RoS did. I don't get it.

Because as well as it did it still underperformed. They wanted WoW numbers with this as well as people shelling out hundreds per month on the real money store, but I guess this wasn't good enough for them. Corporate expectations are Richie Rich-tier sometimes.

Diablo 1 and 2 were pretty damn fun. Starcraft pales to Total Annihilation but wasn't a bad game back in the day.

It's still OK, but yeah, I encourage trying out 1.09 to see how it is without synergies and more flexibility in the skills you can use, without going too far back when the game was horrendously buggy. Also in fairness, synergies did make some lower level skills useful and worth sinking points into, notably charged bolt.

They weren't fun. Diablo was a CRL for fucking casual faggots.

Blizzard didn't make Diablo, Condor did.

They wouldn't shove Niggers/Other Muds and fags/dykes into whatever if they actually just did what their reliable customers ordered. Among other things.

Diablofags hate it for some reason. My brother was hyped for this game and was a big time addict of the series (he played the first two on dial-up). He cleared the game in like a day or so and told me it was shit. He came back for a couple of nights for a patch or something and moved on, I haven't seen him touch it in over a year now.

Necromancer.

Unrelated to this thread but, does this game still hold the record for being the game that has the most sales day one? With 3 million IIRC? I mean not shipped but actual sales

I seriously doubt it. No way GTA5 didn't already beat that.

There is an HD mod for Diablo, but Diablo 2 runs just fine in Windows 7.

You make it sound like Diablo 3 wasn't a dumpster fire from the beginning, or did you forget the real money auction house they tried?

Yeah just checked and if the following link is true it sold 11,2 million on its first day holy shit
archive.is/UaB20
I wonder what will be the next game be

Isn't Diablo 3 incredibly forgettable? People are already moving on from it. Warcraft 3 is still getting more attention than that game. It sold like gangbusters but afterward the drop off was insane. When I last saw it people where praising it to high heaven. Then I watched a video detailing why the plot and end game was complete trash and it falls into routine after the start and a sweet opening sequence. And people just never talk about it anymore.

Is this just how Blizzard works now? It looks pretty and is able to generate hype easily then have nothing of substance happen afterward? I'm completely new to all this and only played Warcraft 3 for funsies after my friend talked about how hilariously stupid the characters act [and the game was kinda fun]. Help me out here.

I think they specifically design games to be as forgettable as possible because otherwise there's a chance of you feeling burned or having your expectations set too high.

I almost reinstalled to see if the Necromancer was cool, but knew I'd be bored in a few hours when I hit max level with no effort.

Take it back to reddit, kid.

Last year's Diablo panel was a fucking disgrace. The series turned 25, and all they did for Diablo was hire some shitty garage band, announce the shitty Neco dlc, and throw panels about D3 shit no one gives a rat's ass about. They added small events and references in other games like Wow and Social Justice Watch, but all of that shit sucked. Even HoTS had a better panel than Diablo last year. They moved a couple of guys from D3 to Legion like Wyatt Chen, which explains why legendary gear in Wow is fucking horrible.

A month later, Blizzard makes a big fucking deal making Tracer gay, bragging how there's finally a LBGT character in Social Justice Watch. Somehow making Tracer gay had way more fucking priority than Diablo turning 25 last year.

Fuck off, Blizzard-sjw-fanboy-shill

The key here is in how many people abandoned it immediately. D3 sold on the reputation garnered in Lord of Destruction. Which in turn sold on the reputation of the previous titles.
Reaper of souls sold directly on D3's popularity, and its sales were abysmal. Usually when blizzard puts out expansions they increase the sales of the original, because once people try the new content there's no going back. When RoS came out though, so many people had already stopped playing the original that they had no audience to sell to

They should call it mighty number nein syndrome:
massive following for beloved franchise hangs self on own entrails

If it weren't for the promotion with WoW and the new expansion coming out at the same time I honestly doubt original D3 would've done half as well as it did either. Still really good all things considered but not the recordbreaker it was.

I believe you have to buy it so you wouldnt be able to see shit if you reinstalled :^)

it all ended when they did that abortion of a game.

This is correct. It was the only reason I could be assed with it myself, since the way things were going at the time, it was basically a free game to me. I played through the story, hit level 60, and wasn't assed to bother with it again.

This is whats so funny to me, they never fire people who fuck up just move them around, as if they won't go somewhere else and shit the bed.

Why do they even have their own con? Who cares about them anymore?

Streamers. Also kids and young teenagers with extremely limited perspective who think Blizzard is perfect and can do no wrong, with a bit of peer pressure thrown in

Same reason they had to justify getting more shekels out of a dying community in Starcraft 2 with those "Co-op commander" shit after the Arcade paid maps bullshit fizzled out.

I bought it on Steam not that long ago for like, $3. Works on my machine.

Autism and free marketing.

Because they still sell out near-instantly. Because fanboys. Virtual tickets are perhaps the best good goy scheme in existence.

The amount of DLC in starcraft 2 now never fails to piss me off
Its.. its honestly sad to see. There is not a single one of their franchises they don't want to insert their rapacious tendrils into. Legacy of the Void and Heart of the Swarm were fucking shit, but at least it wasn't fucking DLC.

You're playing at the "2007" of Blizzard. The beginning of the end. Warcraft 3 is the last good/great game they came out with. Everything beyond that point is a steady downturn. Vanilla WoW was likely very addictive and fun for its time from the brief trial I played of it.
Anyways, yeah Warcraft 3 is when Blizzard began their less serious tones and became lore rape-y. It still works because the game itself is very sound and they still had excellent writing and good character focus, with enough seriousness for the game to not feel like a joke.
Blizzard now has raped Warcraft and StarCraft lore beyond repair in their sequels that followed. WoW lore is beyond nonsensical to try and even follow, only the most autistic can even make sense of this abomination with as many retcons, resurrections and re-killings this garbage goes through. Diablo lore went to shit with 3, as well as everything else. It has no darkness in its themes either, and the storylines are not compelling. The worlds are bland, the mechanics are streamlined to casuals.
I could wax on about Diablo 1's story. People like to meme about the franchise having no discernible story, but the main reason it gets shit on is because of Diablo 3. Diablo 1 definitely had some strong narratives told in ways that were not intrusive to the gameplay, but still spun a fantastic web of a tale spanning across the entire game world and Tristram's inhabitants.

as a side note: personally I enjoyed StarCraft 2: WoL but the corpse of StarCraft 2 is dessicated at this point

I'll take a look at these and Grim Dawn; they might be worth my time.
Thanks anons.

Most Blizzard fans I've ever talking to are pushing their 30s and 40s now.

The only thing worth the respect in WC3 is Death Knight Arthas and his comrades for their bantz.

Don't forget the "real elves" who are just purple niggers who wuz druids an sheeit.

Like I said, it was when the lore rape began.
I don't think they were full dindus either, it only showed the "source" of their power and how they became "berserk". Its later that they became "full" victims.
Its still a fun game though.

They were dindus.

Diablo3 was fueled by hype and time gap to the last Diablo2.
D3: Reaper of Souls sales is a more accurate indicator of the worth of the Diablo franchise at the moment.
*sigh* Sad to see Diablo2 ruined by lack of understanding of the reasons for its original success.

I loved the WC3 story when it came out but thought Frozen Throne had a terrible story for half of it, the half that was just "wah oppression" because the whole Garithos story was bullshit and fuck Sylanvas. This was back in 2005 and WC3 was the first game that I actually paid attention to the story. Kael could've just been trapped behind enemy lines to underscore the desperate situation of the belves and Alliance which could've lead to a much more cohesive narrative about the plaguelands but they instead needed to shoehorn some racism in a story that didn't actually have any aside from the justified hatred of orcs and trolls. For fucks sake, the priests were elves!

I followed the 'story' of WoW out of interest and thought the scarlet crusade was awesome but the situation presented by the frozen throne didn't make the survivor's situation out to be dire enough to justify the scarlets at all. What could've been a great, but morally difficult, faction was instead lol controlled by demons. The Alliance was still kind of around under Garithos (who was cartoonishly horrible at everything because raycis is stupid). The Proudmoores were actually right to hate and distrust orcs and regardless of every fucking halo they put on Thrall, that didn't change his actions. The horde was just doing what humans were evil for doing but they were given a free ride. Writers couldn't even fully justify their green muhammed so they just kept dropped convenient plots on him that still couldn't even fully make him a good guy.

However, without WC3, I wouldn't have the job I have now so I can never fully hate the series.

The whole Garithos VS Elves thing was just an excuse to have the Blood Elves as Creeps for WoW. They (the remnants of a kingdom invaded by Orcs and wiped out by Undead) weren't shoehorned into the Horde (which is the faction that has Orcs and Undead) until they had to raise the Horde's player base.

Pretty sure the high elves were only ever invaded by the trolls, not the orcs.

They were invaded by a combination of Amani trolls and Doomhammer's Horde during the second war. Which makes it even more retarded that the survivors would join a group full of orcs and trolls later on.

They won't. They're figuring out how valve makes those sweet bucks with microtransactions. This is only the beginning.

Explain.
don't tell me we have an user that works for Blizzard here

Unless there's some side story that says otherwise that mission was only in the Orc campaign, which afaik is not canon.

Reminder that Wil Wheaton hosted Blizzcon two years ago, and he was one of the worst hosts they've had. Even Blizzard fanboys were scratching their heads with their decision to hire him because they knew he's an ass-hole who doesn't give a shit about Blizzard games.

didnt he use a couch on a show that he bought off a porn site?

Yea, and his wife ran away from Tumblr when both of them got called out on their shit. He also tried to slut shame some matchmaker over a stupid joke too. Wheaton is a complete cunt.

And all their men spend their time sleeping while the women are getting shit done. Despite that, a portion of their campaign is spent getting the men awake because the women really aren't that great.

Excuse me but where the fuck do you think we are?

Their forests got burnt by Orcs. They quit the Alliance since they blamed the Orcs getting close enough to do that on how weak their teammates were.

Has anyone here read the Diablo universe lore? I've been going through the wiki and I've gotten from the origin of the universe to pretty much how mankind was came about (events after the sin war) and seems very interesting. I want to know if it's worth anything to get into.

I don't follow blishit ever since the abortion known as D3. But how the fuck did that even happen. Does shutupwesley have incriminating photos of someone higher up at bliz or what.

The point is the hypocrisy.

Bought it back when it came out and it was pretty funny leaving my character on attacking the same respawing mob all day while i was at work to level my magic up.

What?

Blizzard knows how to world-build, they cannot into story, writing, mystery or dark fantasy.

The name for this is confusing, its actually a complete rework of basically everything to make it more like Diablo 2. I'd recommend playing Vanilla first because HD is really weird and un-vanilla-like. Even The Hell is more Vanilla than HD (and I recommend The Hell too).

The RPG Codex would tell you Dungeon Siege 1 is a screensaver, and with good reason. DS gameplay is boring and repetitive as fuck. It had a great engine though. Mobile platforms, proper z-level squad pathing, and no loading screens. It was some impressive shit. Some folks modded the shit out of Dungeon Siege so you can play Ultima V and VI in it, so that's fun.

Considering the diablo3 history is the sc2 lore with satan instead of the Queen of Blades, Tyrael being a nigger angel and the soulstone a lazy and overused plot device I don`t understand where you are coming from, what is interesting exactly?

They had some skills a looong time ago, it was:

I know we have /shame/ (I won't be surprised if you found coworkers from my old jobs), but it was more about Wil being a hypocrite with his "Don't be a dick" rule. He's an ass-hole to everyone who doesn't kiss his ass or agree with his sjw-leftist bullshit, but he'll cry like a bitch when Twitter finally spammed "Shut up, Wesley" to fuck with him after getting fed up with his faggotry.

Some Matchmaker who has her own show made stupid tweet about winks or trying to get attention from a guy, and like the sjw cunt he is, Wheaton tried to slut shame her on Twitter, saying she's part of the problem.

Bobby Kotick and Metzen thought having Wheaton would be a good idea CUZ MUH NERDZ N GAEMRZ. Little did they know Wheaton became a complete , unlikable-sjw cunt over GamerGate, and he never gave a rat's ass about Blizzard games. They also "didn't know" how he was pissing off communities and fanbases with his bullshit.

I fucking blame Metzen who got a "Gaming God" award with that bullshit game with overbloated numbers, built for consoles game and shitty Real Shekels Auction House and that faggot Jay Wilson, god I fucking despise what the franchise has become.

I can't even be bothered to get mad at this point, more amazed at how the trainwreck unfolded.
What's funny is way back when, bliz was a bit of a badboy of the vidya studios and would laugh at NERDZ CELEBZ like Wheaton. Not ask him out to be their oniichan at their own convention.

D3 sucks anyway.

they should go the lineage II route and just port WoW to mobile.

They took it out loooong ago, no one cares schizofuck

The idea that the nephelem, birth of from angel and Demon and what is installed for them in the future of Sanctuary.

My guess for blizzard in the FUTURE with Diablo franchise

Augmented Reality (Diablo) - This I reckon would be better for a game like diablo (put into first person) in the future. Hack and slash through enemies anywhere, horror would be better accustomed due to familiarity in world, don't have to change the reality to much, make tree's look dead, basically cripple the environment we live in. and add a gothic layer over buildings. Change colour of the sky. Have to go to open areas to vs bosses. And in closed areas would be minions

Blizzard has never been anything other than milquetoast "how do you do fellow nerds? look at these pop culture references I have for you" by any standards, especially during the overly edgy 90s.

They're planning a Remaster bullshit for Diablo 1, 2, and LoD

Agreed. Remember the WC2 cheat codes?

IT IS SHIT
I used to read it when i was a kid and was pleasently ashamed by how grossly it was written. Literally made up some bullshit in the past five minutes before shipping game disks.
Both diablo's and warcraft universe stories are somehow very close to each other (probably because their writers lack any imagination). What made the First and Only Diablo great was their gothic aesthetics with both music and gruesome monsters (second tried into music and failed, only return to tristram was good; tried to expand on scenery showing some unnecessary gore, but once again failed), loneliness and lingering fear even when there are no more monsters on this level.

Games used to be made by autists that FOR SOME UNKNOWN REASON felt the urge to make A GOOD GAME that even their grandma would like to play. Every good endeavour is ruined by our world masters. At least they could make a game about greedy hook-nosed goblins stealing all the money and creating conflicts for no reason, but just to watch the goyim burn.

Also: replay 1st and only one Diablo

>On ps1
>:^)

Well, you may have a point with the 90s nostalgia. That said, if the choice comes down to current year+2 virtue signalling #woke bullshit or over the top edgy 90s. I'd probably choose over the top edge, at least when it's so over the top that shit becomes funny. The sjw virtue signalling never becomes funny.

I wonder if they would include the topless succubi of Diablo1, or would that be too problematically toxic for current era bliz.

nice

Real Money Auction house was one of the reasons they made the game always-online with server-load increasing methods to ensure that people can't exploit/dupe items (I'm not sure but IIRC if you played single palyer, all mobs got their pathing info and loot tables from Blizzard servers)

That was my point.
Also how characters are all 100% item dependant. All abilities draw damage from your weapon, even spells. This was not the case in 2 where a fire ball did the same damage whether you were holding a sword or not. But in 3 it doesn't even matter what build you are using, it's all dependant on the numbers. And don't get me started on the abysmal drop rates which they later "fixed".

When you add micro-transactions or any sort of option to pay with real-life currency you're going to affect the economy even if you retain option to acquire them in-game without paying. Overwatch having purely cosmetic items from lootboxes that you can buy for real-life cash or grind? Have fun grinding with the notion that you could just use your credit cards instead. Then Blizzard decided this wasn't enough and made limited time events.

lol that sounds retarded jesus