So I have a few questions if anyone out there is bored enough to indulge me. Thank you for your time...

So I have a few questions if anyone out there is bored enough to indulge me. Thank you for your time, these are some things I never understood on my own, I hope I will change some of my opinions today:

Why the fuck is imperialism so bad? If I worked my balls of to invent guns and boats and so on, why should I tolerate a feather nigger feather niggering around, when I can simply take the glorious land for my own children? Why should I tolerate some flee bitten muslim squatting on the oil he doesnt even know how to use, instead of planning a trip to the moon with all the fuel?

If we are all equal, how did whites BTFO all the shitskins? If we are all equal, why does everyone and their 20 illiterate children want to move only to white countries? If men and women are equal, how do men have higher lung capacity, bone density and muscle mass? How can men lift more, if we are all equal? How are we all equal, when your average Alpine euro survived ice age glaciations, had to develop better tools, better shelters, better clothing, better snares, better long term thinking? How did DIFFERENT evolutionary pressure make us all same?????

If you redistribute everyone's wealth, why the fuck would anyone work? Why would a doctor bust his ass 20 hours a day to learn all the arteries and whatnot to patch you up and stop you from dying, if he cant be filthy rich? Why would anyone bother with anything insanely difficult relating to technology, if he cant snort his coke off of hookers thanks to his 6 digits starting? Why would anything good ever happen? Why wouldnt everyone just be some piss easy useless pretentious art faggot and demand the same pay as a jet propulsion lab Mars mission planner?

What's the difference between a right wing death squad, and your average leftist commie thug bandit squad robbing you blind and accusing you of something or spouting 'revolution' while you didnt do anything wrong and they dont have any proof you ever stole anything. How can these thieves go around robbing everyone and calling everyone thieves, how are these completely unreasonable individuals any different than your imaginary right wing death squad that would practically act identically, just with a different arm patch??
It's not like either one will give you a fair trial.

Why is communism always everywhere such a colossal fucking failure? Why did everyone try to jump the commie wall and get out? Why did capitalism elevate so much people out of poverty?

For now, I firmly believe that you can biologically define race, that races are different, that there is nothing morally wrong with imperialism, that the universe doesnt give a shit about your feels and that might makes right, that biological male and female are different, etc. Which puts me on the right on the political spectrum I guess? Especially today it seems.

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pieria.co.uk/articles/in_defense_of_leftiness
independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/exclusive-must-do-better-black-pupils-did-with-best-improvement-in-exams-9563395.html
web.ornl.gov/sci/techresources/Human_Genome/elsi/minorities.shtml
debunkingdenialism.com/2015/02/03/mailbag-fetishizing-richard-lewontin/
americananthro.org/ConnectWithAAA/Content.aspx?ItemNumber=2583
physanth.org/about/position-statements/biological-aspects-race/
livinganthropologically.com/anthropology/race-reconciled-debunks-race/
telegraph.co.uk/men/the-filter/11965045/White-working-class-boys-are-the-worst-performing-ethnic-group-at-school.html
asbmb.org/asbmbtoday/asbmbtoday_article.aspx?id=32437
unesco.org/fileadmin/MULTIMEDIA/HQ/CLT/pdf/P_Lovejoy_African_Contributions_Eng_01.pdf
youtube.com/watch?v=zIddCEBCKHQ
nuffield.ox.ac.uk/politics/papers/2005/NLetki_social capital and diversity_final.pdf
academic.oup.com/esr/article/32/1/54/2404332/Does-Ethnic-Diversity-Have-a-Negative-Effect-on
oxfam.org/en/pressroom/pressreleases/2013-01-19/annual-income-richest-100-people-enough-end-global-poverty-four
brookings.edu/articles/the-behavioral-aspects-of-poverty/
psychologicalscience.org/observer/how-poverty-affects-the-brain-and-behavior#.WJjmlBxlyJY
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2546606/
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we aren't, stopped reading there cause I knew the rest of your post was gonna be more strawmanning

OP understand that you'll get a serious answer eventually but with the way you phrased everything, there will be a lot of meme responses first.

OP is a faggot, as usual

Normative equity is different from a naturalist claim of equality, you retard.

How is you stopping reading somewhere my problem, or even useful to a conversation? That is not an argument.
And if we arent all equal.. what do leftists stand for? I thought leftists were all about equality, wasnt egalitare, fratere and that third work used as a slogan in the French revolution?


I'll wait, nothing to lose here.


Not an argument tho.

Why the fuck is imperialism so bad? If I worked my balls of to invent guns and boats and so on, why should I tolerate a feather nigger feather niggering around, when I can simply take the glorious land for my own children?


two questions for you:

1) Do you like the world we currently live in?

2) How do you think the world we live in was created?

If you don't like the world we currently live in, capitalist imperialism is what made it the way it is.

If you don't think capitalist imperialism made the world the way it is, what do you think made the world they way it is?

Are you suggesting that capitalist imperialism is not infact dominant, and is in fact secondary to some other force?

OP being a faggot yet again, as usual

The French revolution was essentially bourgeois, which is why France is now still bourgeois. You realise the French and the American Revolution stood for almost exactly the same things yes?

Pretty sure the French revolution invented leftism because a whole bunch of legit oppressed peasants got pissed, stormed that Bastille place and dealt with the nobles successfully for the first time in history.
I mean I am no history expert but that's what I think that was all about.
How the fuck was French revolution about rich people???


Hell yes I love the world we currently live in. And I wasnt even born with a silver spoon up my ass, I am from the eastern block као што можеш да видиш, and I think it is great I was born under capitalism, where I can freely enter in work agreement with 'the big bad fat guy' who gives me thousand times more than my poor grandpa ever got from the commies he worked for 10 times harder than I do.

Smh

Retards like these are all because of you, tankies, see what your imperialism caused??

Its about what they put in place, which was not any kind of socialism, but Liberalism which protected private property. It was feudalism becoming capitalism.

The fact that it was carried out by poor people means nothing really. Poor people have alternately defended/killed monarchs forever, its what they do after that counts.


You're from the eastern bloc, which currently being flooded with migrants, is getting fucked by the EU and is a peon to them, is getting slaughtered by the IMF, the World Bank and other such institutions, is a stones throw from the middle east, where radical Islamic terror had destroyed an entire region. Bombs are going off all over europe. There is almost daily violence on the streets of America. Good, hardworking people, teachers, nurses, do not earn enough to properly upkeep family. The majority of people are up to their eyeballs in debt. Our populations are unhealthy, they smoke lots of cigarettes and drink lots of alchohol, they have weak lungs and hearts, they spend most their time glued to adverts.

Most of the food you buy is full of shit. Too much sugar, too much salt, too much fat, idgaf about evolved plantS and such, our children are brainwashed into eating Mcdonalds and thinking that is the high life.

You really like all this? You like the rising crime rates across the western world over the last 10 years? You like the prison riots? You like the fact that the majority of communities, the most populated ones, are desolate shitholes with broken windows and trash covered streets and homeless people and junkies. You actually really think the state of the world right now can be described as good?

The leaders of the french revolution were the rich, "middle class" traders and professional liberals from the cities, yes it was the peasant in the field and the poor in the cities who revolted in large enough numbers to consolidate the revolution but they lacked the organization to have a central leadership and philosophy that tied their fate to the fate of the nation, unlike those "rich people" In the end the revolution advanced the interests of the bourgeois.
You are not an expert on anything, you are fucking stupid.
What happens to you if you don't want to be part of any of these agreements?

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Lots of reason history develops the way it does. Animals available for domestication, arable land, opportunities for trade, disease, etc.

Damn, didnt expect much but even in here, there are 0 arguments for leftism/communism/equality-ism.


The only ugly thing about Slavs, was that they invented this whole communism bullshit thing.


We are not western kekolds, we beat the living shit out of them and keep them in line, if a mudslime looks at you the wrong way, you can hang him with his own guts and the official police report will list it as suicide.
No diabetes meat or hormonal milk around here, that's some USA tier horror. Food quality is.. ok, we dont have mega 3 farms monopolizing everything, its mostly local farms.
Ok, so we get bad numbers on some paper somewhere. Who cares? Name one thing you have and I dont. Just one thing (other than debt). I live extremely comfy life. And yes I am from eastern Europe.
Again, American worldview =/= what's actually going on.
Ok fine, this one is truer than most imagine, but how do politics play into this?
We have virtually zero homeless people. I've never seen a homeless person.
I never witnessed a violent crime in my entire life.


Ok, I agree that Europeans lucked out, I am not even going to contest that European man had all kinds of advantages… my question is, why the fuck should we share our luck, when there is no reasonable, empirical, measurable benefit in doing so.

Well, with that kind of nigger mentality, of course you don't give a shit about anyone else except yourself. That's why you can't understand any of those other simple concepts you outlined in your post.
We can sit here and debate why helping other people is actually in your self-interest, but I don't want to waste my time trying to explain it to someone who doesn't want to get it.
Do you want to get it, OP?

Wow, you are retarded.

Do you know the definition of the phrase, anecdotal evidence? How it doesn't mean shit?

I am talking about real, global trends and pressures, which are causing the disintegration of the western society you so cherish, which somehow has passed you by.

and you are a-ok with that?


You realize, this directly effects your quality of life, which could and should be much, much higher, considering you live the fucking eastern bloc

This isn't what communism is. Marx's communism is German, and communism was originally French. His work is a critique of Capitalism and its inherent contradictions. I recommend you read it, however if you want a good book on empirical research on inequality (and how it's harmful), read this article and the book mentioned: pieria.co.uk/articles/in_defense_of_leftiness

My anecdotes show a linear correlation with the statistics in this case anyway. My country has extremely little homeless people according to all the sources I could dig up, almost nonexistant diabetes type 2 as well, etc etc.
But I dont feel it tho. Ok sure we have bad stats when it comes to economic statistics, but we can afford what we need, we have a very strong local economy that I guess does not show on the good goy index, and our debt is also very low, even according to the national statistics.


Well that sure showed me. No I am willing to listen. Why the fuck should I help out some good for nothing lazy cunt that didnt work enough for himself, how is that in my self interest?

Well, you have three choices when it comes to the underclasses: Lift them out of their misery and poverty that drives them to commit crimes, kill them, or be killed.
I think I can guess your preference, though.

ITT: "communism is just liberalism with welfare"

Truly, most tech nerds work because they want coke and hookers.

I never said anything like this at all. In fact, my entire ideology revolves around getting rid of these institutions, fundamentally.


Right and what exactly defines 'what we need'? The fact is that a class of people are robbing you for their own benefit on a constant basis, and you've got three meals and roof so you are fine with that, even though conditions mostly everywhere are getting worse.

If you are really okay with that than no, there is nothing I can really say. If you only give a shit about yourself, why should you care about the world falling to pieces around you. I mean, unless your patch were to fall to pieces.

Also if you are going to be a selfish cunt, be a proper selfish cunt, not some two bit sloppy urge satiation machine.


Read Stirner and understand.

I am extremely nationalistic tho, I really want the best for all my countrymen. I believe our language, our culture, the way we think (or the way I perceive we think), the food we eat, how our women look and how our men are brave, and how at the end of the day all of us aspire to a set of common goals and national interests, I think it is the most beautiful gift of nature and the biggest wonder in the universe. So I dont really consider myself selfish, when I am willing to sacrifice myself for the sake of my nation…
It's just that you absolutely must be ready, willing and able to qualify up to a certain standard, or I dont consider you.

This is why I dont like leftists. They glorify weakness. They go around shouting 'fat is beautiful'. They bash traditional values, and then proceed to replace them with no superior solution. They claim we are being robbed, but have no proof. They just go around stirring shit up, and never accomplish anything useful.

lets make this easier. Where are you from?

Enjoy it while you can. Hopefully it will last at least a lifespan. Global warming will kick everyone's ass, not just mine.

Hot damn.

Because at the moment, you are a nationalist who has dodged several times the opportunity to even speak you glorious countries name, lest I should google its quality of life and find your house of cards come tumbling down. So it can't be that great can it.

Tell me how does this play into an argument and I will tell you where am I from.

By the way, like 95% of Europeans, I won a passport, and I traveled a fair bit, studied a few semesters abroad. I have seen other places too, I am not some sort of a hillbilly who never left his hill. I've seen the other places as well.

Western Europeans and Americans have this kind of cold war propaganda tier opinion of us, they think we take baths in road holes when it rains or I dont know. They think we go around hunting for cats to eat. None of them realize that our quality of life can be better, but its not all that much worse than theirs, and they most certainly cannot comprehend that in some areas it is even better.

I hope communism never happens so cuckolds like this always stay exploited

own, damn

But how am I exploited? This is something leftists do, they go around trying to convince you that you are exploited, just like feminists go around in the west trying to convince women they dont need men and so on.

Ask them for proofs, and you will not get a single argument, just maybe an insult.

We are not that dumb. We don't buy into anti-russian propaganda. Sure, Russia must have regions with huge problems, but no country is without issues.

Thats right, you are not, so keep working, prole!

Also Nietzsche didnt advocate nihilism, the guy spent his life being aware of it, and trying to overcome it. He never went around telling people to be nihilists, but the opposite, his message was (at least how I understood it) to overcome nihilism. And the first step is to be aware of it, but other steps are unknown.


That's not an argument. I didnt expect much from the leftists, but this is truly bad. You cant just go around implying implications.

You seem to be operating under the assumption that some people aren't going to laugh at you for loving that boot up your ass. I don't know if this is a language barrier or what, but everyone has been pretty direct with you so far, so I don't know what you don't understand.

Nah nah nah, no time for arguments, prole, your 20 minute break is over, go back to your minimum wage job in the factory

As for me, I have a couple of yatches to enjoy, remember your nation too!!

we can fact check all the bullshit you say, and we can show you how your countrymen are being fucked by capitalist imperialism.

If you are such a glorious nationalist, why haven't you jumped at the chance to speak of your nations achievements?

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Admittedly communism also leads to boots up asses. Most of human history is about people getting power over other people.

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Nobody ever said we are equal, every single fucking person is different. I don't see what point you're trying to make here.
Your definition of socialism as free shit is terrible. It is a system of workers'/society's ownership of workplaces, usually described to also have the production for use(depends who you ask). This is why it is said that socialism is characterized by "From each according to his ability, to each according to his contribution". Meanwhile free shit does not change the fundamental logic of the system, as worker selling his labour power on the market is still a worker selling his labour power on the market even if you give him free shit, just like slave getting free shit from the gov would still be of the slave class. I recommend you to never confuse welfare capitalism with socialism again if you want to be taken seriously.
They have different objective I guess? I'm not sure what you're referring to, it's not like law will be upheld by anybody if shits hits the fan like in interwar Spain, I don't see why are you so surprised.
Every single model of socialism had a marxist-leninist political system which is fucking gay imo, but we'd be getting into advanced stuff here.
It was not capitalism itself that gave you 8 hour work day, it was a labour movement, same goes for maternal leaves, holidays, minimum wage and so on. Most of those luxuries we have today we given thanks to strikes, revolts and shot workers and not just because somebody build a factory.

I am the job creator, without me you would not have a job!!

kek I really like the flags this board have


I am looking for some general principles that I could easily apply to my local environment and test it out to see if they are true. Even special cases can be generalized.


That is strange, because I never observed this, nor did anyone I know. When we do business, we enter the business freely. As partners, not serfs. There is no 'big evil fat boss' strawman. I am working with him because he has a skill that I want, he is working with me because I have a skill that he wants, at the end of the day we both walk away happy.

You are free to get exploited or die of hung.. Sorry I mean you are free to chose pepsi or coke, this is true freedom!

There is light cocke too!!

That's why we need a system where everyone has a boot.

My company just merged with our main competitor with no input from the workers. The new CEO made $160 million, personally. I got told I have five months left to work, and I was one of the lucky ones who wasn't fired on the spot.
My manager had no idea that I (and half my team) were being axed.

Illustrate to me how this is fair to me and my coworkers who have come into work and done our jobs every day.

Obviously you just need to start your own business!!

Ill lend you some money, at 45% imterest however

Well my implication is that.. there is this thing I have a problem with defining myself, but lets just call it a 'natural law' for now. I think that we are not only all unequal, but that with a small margin of error, certain categories of people are objectively superior to certain other categories of people. And that therefore it is futile to try to implement any sort of all inclusive system, as leftists try so hard.

For example: leftists say.. race is a social construct, but according to my world view, society is a racial construct. There is a reason why democracy has never happened in Africa or the Middle East. There is a reason they lived like shit, even before they had any contact with Europeans, and why they still live like shit. There is a reason everyone wants to go to Europe, and Europeans dont want to go to their shitholes. There is a reason white man ruled the world. There is a reason all of the shitskins go for the white women, and so on.

If you cant make a better suggestion, why suggest anything at all?


Well, were you forced at gunpoint or by torture to willingly work for that CEO? Why dont you make a company of your own? Why do you believe you are entitled to another man's executive decisions? Did your contract say anything about you never being fired?

This special snowflake pretty princess complex leftists have.. why? Why do you think you are oh so special? Why do you think the universe owes you anything?

I suggest you deregulate markets a little, we need to help those in poverty to get a job

Let me privatize your water supply fa

Also

Kek, fucking called it!!

Dropped

This special snowflake syndrome among leftists is what I will for the life of me never understand. This pretty princess thing they all seem to have. This 'the universe owes ==MEE== something behavior.

You have no special rights. You are not special or unique. The universe does not work thanks to you. You can be fired from a job. You dont have any special snowflake rights.
Where are the human rights of a man drowning in the ocean? Does the ocean stops drowning a man, because killing someone for no reason is wrong?
Let's say a wolf or lion is killing a sheep, does wolf or lion stop because sheep has no strong jaw? Let's say a bear is chasing a group of humans, and in the group there is a fat woman shouting 'stop running faster than me, fat is beautiful!!', is anyone going to stop, or is bear going to spare her?
No. There are objectively superior and objectively inferior people, animals, beings, ideologies, etc.
Only if you are bad.
Only if you are bad.
You will still suck no matter what.
So?


Why?

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Yes and?

From the socialist perspective inclusive "equal" pre-scarcity based system will posses two things: political equality before the law, and equal economic class, nothing more, nothing less.
If some people are inferior, they they will never progress beyond working in a low-tier job while the others will rise to the managerial positions, but children of those who rose shall not inherit the position of power and will be forced to start pretty much from scratch rather than inheriting said positions of power. Perhaps niggers and rednecks will not rise as often to the positions of power as they lack merit? Who cares, they were simply given a better chance to rise to said position under such system.s

This is true, human life is replaceable, only profitsmatter

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Poor working class people don't have the capital to start businesses as easily as snappying one's fingers primarily coz they live in a cycle of exploitation where they are kept poor.

Plus porky predicting what you said makes you a walking cliche

Ok and why is proletariat entitled to the means of production?

Mate feel free to name your country any time, it seems as if my asking has triggered you quite mightily. Its a simple question really, you're a nationalist, so you tell me, where are you from?

And this is why the big bad fascist capitalist imperialist bad guy with a monocle is going to make you his bitch or starve you to death.
You cant bullshit your way trough the life and expect other people to pay your bills.

No wonder you follow that Marx guy, a fucking bum who leeched some other guy his entire life, and never held a private sector job.

57% interest now to start your own business, take it or leave it!


This, they must respect private property!, God also defends private property and order

God forbids the proletariat understand that morals are a spooks, that communism is a system that comes from power and not from morals and that they have nothing to lose but their chains

Thank god the spectacle keeps them at line

Very bad analogy.

I bet 100 he is from poland

and yet earlier in the thread you were describing how the turmoil of the world doesn't matter, purely because it does not effect you.

and yeh, still haven't said where you are from

Communism would only work in a post scarcity society

This is true, you workers cannot organize in a cooperative manner to ngage in market relations, you need a boss to showyou the way forward

SHUT THE FUCK UP. YOU HAVE DODGED TELLING ME WHERE YOU ARE FROM FOR SEVERAL POSTS NOW, ALL BECAUSE YOU ARE AFRAID TO REVEAL THAT YOU LIVE IN A HELLHOLE DESTROYED BY CAPITALISM.

YOU ACT SO SMART, YET GAVE A COMPLETELY FALSE SUM UP OF THE FRENCH REVOLUTION AND HAVE YET TO ACTUALLY STATE A FACT IN THIS THREAD.

WHERE YOU FROM PROUD NATIONALIST AND PATRIOT

Are you seriously implying that in the western world, you are born into one of those cartoon ball and chain, and you can absolutely never leave your ball and chain? Are you seriously implying that western world is somehow absolutely impossibly unfair?
Man, you are typing all these things, on the internet. Do you not realize how contradictory what you say is?

You are not oppressed. You just want an excuse.

literally still avoiding the question after all this, still, lol.

The internet was state sponsored it was a military project.

Property rights do not exist anyways, so there's not entitlement unless you feel like being moralistic about who generates the labour. But really, why should people from the proletarian class restrict themselves by wanting not to own something?

Yes, people do not inheret debt, this never happens under capitalism

There are two types of man in the world. Those who find a way. And those who find an excuse.
To be leftist is fundamentally to keep finding excuses.

This is why I am team fat monopoly badguy. Oh sure he exploited people along the way, but so what? The truth of the matter is, it's a jungle out there. Kill or be killed. Dog eat dog. Sink or swim. And all the American sayings.
Porky simply swam (swimmed?). He ate the other dog. He killed and was not killed himself.

You must grow up and out-porky the porky. My terminology is probably wrong but you get the point I hope.

also, you know capitalism came about by feudal peasants using their masters tools against them. Right?


those who answer the question, where are you from


and those who avoid the question, because they are too beta even to answer a question on the internet,

seriously you are STILL going to ignore this and act as if you won?

You will own this boot one day,.. meanwhile, go back to work!

Absentee is treason!

what do adults do? I think they answer simple questions when asked them, I think that is one of the things, instead of avoiding the answer like a little child lying about stealing some cookies. Yeh I think that's adults

Are you fucking kidding me, nigger? I make $30,000 a year, how the hell am I supposed to make a business with that kind of money?

Which is why we should engage in mutual aid and help each other out, like a good sports team, not divide ourselves up for our own selfish and childish profit, but to strive towards the betterment of humanity.

Seriously, we are the special snowflakes because we want community over untrammelled individualism?

Wooooow wooooow didnt you know that last time we tried that over 90 billion died?!?!?

Why would it be in anyone's interest to build a political system based on selfishness? You will always get backlash, and the more repression you heap on, with technology only getting more invasive, just to keep it stable, the more you cuck yourself to an all seeing eye.

kek, this was fun, fine, Slovenia
I am from glorious Slovenia
please do not crucify me, I know outsiders have low opinion of my country, and I know
cheers from Ljubljana, could be better but I think it is great

certainly much better than how it was under communist rule according to my grandpa

wtf but if someone doesn't get paid to wipe my ass then who will?

your attitude is entirely contrary to that of the Not Socialists. btw your posts sound like canned pol talking points.

*national.

Of course an eslovene would side with fascists

Yes but that is very.. paradoxical, let's say we help each other and overthrow "the masters", how can I know you will not turn on me the exact second they are gone?

play it off as a joke, not that I was deliberately pretending I don't live in a shithole.

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You base your entire argument around what YOU KNOW YOURSELF to be lies. Why, why would a person even do this? Are you literally so cucked that you lie to yourself about how the world around you is? Call yourself a fucking nationalist, you would rather deny there is a problem then fucking fix it. You sicken me

Everyone is out to get you, this is how real life is, younare not a paranoical psycho or anything, that is truly how humans behave

How do I know you won't turn on me, huh?

Sorry, but I'd rather change the rules of the game. A feudal serf could buy himself out of serfdom, but the game was still rigged against him, which ultimately resulted in pissed serfs and burghers destroying feudalism and giving a rise to the system with a better equality of opportunity known as capitalism. Now the socialists are thinking the same, they want to change the rules of the game, because unlike you, we're not fucking cucks to watch patiently as a bull fucks our wives because of the vague promise that we might become bulls too.

..Because you would have no reason to, because they would be your comrade, and you would be sharing the spoils of the expropriation.

Besides this, you would lack the power, because his power would be equal to yours, unless he was going to actually attack you and rob you, in which case we have the militia for that but actually most socialist states have seen massive reductions in crime, for instance Cuba, which has far lower crime rates than its 'glorious capitalist' burgerfatfuck neighbour

Also since you opened yourself to us, tell us, how old are you? Dont lie, at worst we will call you a dumb kid

I would consider fully functioning communism and ideal

Are you implying historical communists werent killing each other in power struggles 24/7? Are you implying that any system out there is safe from this?
All I am saying is, capitalism at least kept this in some sort of control, while communists simply went around guns blazing. Sure a slimy lawyer might steal everything you will and have ever owned, but at least KGB wont pull your nails in gulag.

Not saying I have all the answers, just saying that there's no way in hell a leftist utopia is ever going to happen.

oh, oh oh and and and


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You can escape the material conditions, but the chances of that are slim and escape doesn't change the material conditions

it is unfair, equality of opportunity is decreasing as inequality rises. I don't think the problem is impossible to solve though

Oh you mean the technology the inventor refused to patent so porky wouldn't have a series of intranets imposing a monopoly ala telecommunications company do in USA? Yea

I am actually not poor nigga. What now? Gonna call me a champagne socialist?

Kek, called it again

Darwinian dog eat dog world of soulless competiton and consumerism, environment destroyed, with the thin patina of state-corporate nationalist branding/mythology concealing its emptiness, and blanket repression by advanced AI watching and calculating your every move, to stifle ceaseless conflict this creates…. How are you not turning on your own children if this is the world you are happy to leave for them?

Its mostly foreigners eating in mcdonalds around here, and the homeless are gypsies that I do not consider Slovenian
they are not genetically Slovenian, nor do they speak our language, nor have they ever answered the call to defend the country, etc

Those damn foreigners!

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kek a mountainjew

genocide of slovens when

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Oh man keep them coming please.


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man you are too much

I don't care what you call them or think of them, the fact is capitalism put them there, because capitalism controls everything and by your own admittance, they are there.

Anarkiddies were a mistake.

And Yet nationalist claim that you're being invaded by Muslims and dominated by them, and that black people are stealing your women.


People exist as individuals, not as clusters dickhead. Considering that black kids are outperforming poor white kids in britain, you can't really talk. Race doesn't exist as you'd like it too.

independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/exclusive-must-do-better-black-pupils-did-with-best-improvement-in-exams-9563395.html

web.ornl.gov/sci/techresources/Human_Genome/elsi/minorities.shtml

debunkingdenialism.com/2015/02/03/mailbag-fetishizing-richard-lewontin/

americananthro.org/ConnectWithAAA/Content.aspx?ItemNumber=2583

physanth.org/about/position-statements/biological-aspects-race/

livinganthropologically.com/anthropology/race-reconciled-debunks-race/


telegraph.co.uk/men/the-filter/11965045/White-working-class-boys-are-the-worst-performing-ethnic-group-at-school.html

Not to mention, black people had civilisation and mathematics prior to western imperialism. See Mali Empire, Kingdom of Kush and the Ethiopian Empire along with the songhai city states.

There have been scientific contributions from Africa and Africans.

asbmb.org/asbmbtoday/asbmbtoday_article.aspx?id=32437

unesco.org/fileadmin/MULTIMEDIA/HQ/CLT/pdf/P_Lovejoy_African_Contributions_Eng_01.pdf

and I also know this isn't true, there are definitely homeless Slovenes.

oh and also earlier on you were saying none of this mattered anyway because if an immigrant looks at you funny you can just beat them

(never fucking happened)

Exactly. I explained that they do not have our history. Their ancestors do not have the same instincts. They do not practice our culture. Etc. I am entitled to my opinion.


Well you can murder the messengers all you want, but the message is the same. The world really is like that.
There is never going to be a 'commune' where my people live in peace and prosperity with other people.

People feel ethnic belonging, they see themselves in their tribe, they share common goals, common interests, they are all one giant family, and that's it. There's no international workers union. There's no bosses and serfs.
There's my nation, and there is a universal test, a fundamental competition.

If it was up to me, us Europeans should band together because we all share strategic goals and evolutionary traits, against the shitskin hordes, and all live relatively good life with our penicilin, literature, technology and so on.

The world is large enough for a billion Europeans, and that's that.


Why should I feel bad for the shitskins? They were scalping/canibalising each other long before capitalism.

I didn't say you should feel bad for them.

You said capitalism was more peaceful than socialism. Which is just completely fucking not true

I thought you said socialism was bad because it was violent. So now you don't care about violence or something?

teaming up with separatist traitors ever again

Wrong. There are successful examples of communism/ anarchism/ and socialism.

youtube.com/watch?v=zIddCEBCKHQ


Why where they poor in the first place? Why do we have poor whites if they're truly the master race? Why have we had so many revolutions because of an increase in poverty?

Capitalism is unstable and constantly goes through recessions, fincancial crisis' and mass unemployment.

Now you do not want those foreigners taking over and destroying your culture, your beautiful special snowflake culture! The world owns so much to the slovene culture!

So im afraid I will have to lower your pay, otherwise i cannot afford to make the megaprofi.. eeh to keep this place runing

You dont wat those gypsies taking over your job right? Exactly, so sign here

Oh what is it? Its just a reform to make you more competitive* against those foreigners, you have to compete against them! They are foreigners!

*Lower your pay by 35% and renounce all benefits

I mainly dislike communism because how I understand it, instead of rewarding the best, it rewards the lowest common denominator, instead of incentivising good and making more good, it dumbs everyone down and makes more mediocrity.


Violence is.. neutral. A tool. It is bad against my people, and it is good if it serves the interests of my people.

Pity that race doesn't exist as you'd like it too, and your """social cohesion"""" is a load of shit.

Lee et al. 2008: "We caution against making the naive leap to a genetic explanation for group differences in complex traits, especially for human behavioral traits such as Autism Level scores"

AAA 1998: "For example, 'Evidence from the analysis of genetics (e.g., DNA) indicates that most physical variation, about 94%, lies within so-called racial groups. Conventional geographic 'racial' groupings differ from one another only in about 6% of their genes. This means that there is greater variation within 'racial' groups than between them.'"

Keita, S O Y; Kittles, Royal, Bonney, Furbert-Harris, Dunston, Rotimi; Royal, C D M; Bonney, G E; Furbert-Harris, P; Dunston, G M; Rotimi, C N (2004). "Conceptualizing human variation". Nature Genetics. 36 (11s): S17–S20. doi:10.1038/ng1455. PMID 15507998. Modern human biological variation is not structured into phylogenetic subspecies ('races'), nor are the taxa of the standard anthropological 'racial' classifications breeding populations. The 'racial taxa' do not meet the phylogenetic criteria. 'Race' denotes socially constructed units as a function of the incorrect usage of the term.

Keita, S O Y; Kittles, Royal, Bonney, Furbert-Harris, Dunston, Rotimi; Royal, C D M; Bonney, G E; Furbert-Harris, P; Dunston, G M; Rotimi, C N (2004). "Conceptualizing human variation". Nature Genetics. 36 (11s): S17–S20. doi:10.1038/ng1455. PMID 15507998. Modern human biological variation is not structured into phylogenetic subspecies ('races'), nor are the taxa of the standard anthropological 'racial' classifications breeding populations. The 'racial taxa' do not meet the phylogenetic criteria. 'Race' denotes socially constructed units as a function of the incorrect usage of the term.

Harrison, Guy (2010). Race and Reality. Amherst: Prometheus Books. Race is a poor empirical description of the patterns of difference that we encounter within our species. The billions of humans alive today simply do not fit into neat and tidy biological boxes called races. Science has proven this conclusively. The concept of race (…) is not scientific and goes against what is known about our ever-changing and complex biological diversity.

Roberts, Dorothy (2011). Fatal Invention. London, New York: The New Press. The genetic differences that exist among populations are characterized by gradual changes across geographic regions, not sharp, categorical distinctions. Groups of people across the globe have varying frequencies of polymorphic genes, which are genes with any of several differing nucleotide sequences. There is no such thing as a set of genes that belongs exclusively to one group and not to another. The clinal, gradually changing nature of geographic genetic difference is complicated further by the migration and mixing that human groups have engaged in since prehistory. Human beings do not fit the zoological definition of race. A mountain of evidence assembled by historians, anthropologists, and biologists proves that race is not and cannot be a natural division of human beings.

nuffield.ox.ac.uk/politics/papers/2005/NLetki_social capital and diversity_final.pdf

academic.oup.com/esr/article/32/1/54/2404332/Does-Ethnic-Diversity-Have-a-Negative-Effect-on

your country benefited the MOST out of communism in yugoslavia you retard

Why should your people be benefitted?

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I think you're mistaking capitalism for communism there.

Literally FEELS> REAL the post

Who are you quoting?

And what he doesn't realise is that Yugoslavia was multi-ethnic.

OP

No, it removes the parasite class and rewards people for the work they do, instead of handing the spoils of every bodies labour to a handful of people who produce nothing

Yeah, they excel in capitalism. I mean they would if they could. But they cant. They are nothing like us.


Because they want to, and because they can. Those are the reasons.

So you are saying that if me and my people use violence to rape your people, which they would, because Slovenia is an insignificant shit stain, that would be fine, because "they my peeps n shit yo"

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If that was true, why do Arab parents never make Chinese babies? How come Alpine couples never make Negroid babies? Why do Mediterenian people never produce Asiatic children?

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Well you dont want those gypsis in your workforce, so just sign the paper pls ill just lower your pay by 32%

Do you think they are special snowflakes or something, do they deserve it just for existing? Kek fucking nationalists thinking the world owes them something

Start with your victim complex now

you're one of the worst Holla Forumsyp I've seen to pass through this place
literally 14y/o arguments

Why hasn't this retarded ass thread been anchored yet?

Are you legitimately acting retarded on purpose?

It's fun.

Yep, that's how the world works.

Source: Brits in China and India, Belgians in Kongo, Dutch in southern Africa, etc.
If you want it on small scale, look up prison politics, two people in a cell, one stronger and one weaker.


I have never seen anyone around here employing gypsies, what is your point? We employ our own because our own are objectively superior, there's no need for special snowflake entitlements, just objective measurable ability to get shit done, which is greater in Slovenians than in gypsies.

This special snowflake syndrome among nationalists is what I will for the life of me never understand. This pretty princess thing they all seem to have. This 'the universe owes ==MEE== something behavior.
You have no special rights. You are not special or unique. The universe does not work thanks to you. You can be fired from a job. You dont have any special snowflake rights.
Where are the human rights of a man drowning in the ocean? Does the ocean stops drowning a man, because killing someone for no reason is wrong?
Let's say a wolf or lion is killing a sheep, does wolf or lion stop because sheep has no strong jaw? Let's say a bear is chasing a group of humans, and in the group there is a fat woman shouting 'stop running faster than me, fat is beautiful!!', is anyone going to stop, or is bear going to spare her?
No. There are objectively superior and objectively inferior people, animals, beings, ideologies, etc.

If the gypsis are able of entering your nation and outbreed you, then that makes them objectively superior over you

Competition isnt as exciting now, is it fucker?

Considering they're outbreeding you, and taking your women, I'd say that they're going to conquer you in no time.

And to think, all of this could have been avoided if you actually spent time and resources to get the world out of global poverty four times over…


oxfam.org/en/pressroom/pressreleases/2013-01-19/annual-income-richest-100-people-enough-end-global-poverty-four

Well, to be exact, if THEY (the rich did).

not defending that retard
but have any of you met gypsies from the balkans
disgusting little lazy shits

Wow its almost as if poverty and segregation causes such hehaviour

Why is it not exciting? Sure gypsies and mudslime shits are outbreeding us, but can they educate their children like we can? Can they even learn how to read, let alone develop weapons platforms, figure out how to cure diseases, have a fucking airforce and not just run around with sticks like subhuman animals?

Nope. It is irrelevant how I feel about competition, it is still going to be there. How are they going to outbreed us, when they still didnt figure out how to fix infant mortality?


Well, one traitor is worse than a thousand enemies, I do not consider those as Slovenians.

That's fine if you think that way. You live in your jungle and we'll live in our civilization.

I've met gypsies. Not all of them are bad, but some of them can be out right dickheads.

This guy gets it.

How do you know that its not the behavior causing poverty and segregation?
They refuse to learn our language. They refuse to work. They refuse to become useful members of society, preferring to steal copper from power cables and electrocute themselves.

How is it our fault that they are clinically retarded?? Same thing in Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia, Macedonia, Austria, Czechia…… everywhere where they are found.

There are two types of man in the world. Those who find a way. And those who find an excuse.
To be nationalist is fundamentally to keep finding excuses.
This is why I am team fat monopoly badguy. Oh sure he exploited people along the way, but so what? The truth of the matter is, it's a jungle out there. Kill or be killed. Dog eat dog. Sink or swim. And all the American sayings.
Porky simply swam (swimmed?). He ate the other dog. He killed and was not killed himself.

Gypsises work for less than you do, the rest doesnt matter, even better if they cannot make weapons or live in civilization, dont have to worry about revolts or taxes being demanded

Gypsis are more desireable to porky than your "race" so you either start reading Marx, kropotkin, proudhon and bakunin and join us against porky, or you can say goodbye to the quality of life you enjoy

Hitler never did anything to fight against the system, he was supported by Ford and swiss bankers

brookings.edu/articles/the-behavioral-aspects-of-poverty/

psychologicalscience.org/observer/how-poverty-affects-the-brain-and-behavior#.WJjmlBxlyJY

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2546606/

Because I have read more than enough history books and anthropology studies

Europeans were living in mudhuts getting cucked by plague after plague while asians, hindus and middlemeasterns were discovering maths, astronomy and medicine

It is not one individuals fault, especially the fault of one prole or any prole such as yourself. It is the system itself and porky who makes it and most porky do so unkowingly of the exploitation they cause.

Where ever you have a high quality of life, you have hawkish foreign policies, ethnic solidarity, social hierarchies based on merit.
Then they reign supreme. Become soft. Corrupted. Multicultural. Weak. And finally succumb.


Oh fucking hell, this is the most wrong thing I have read in my entire life.
Pic related. All equal, eh?

Reality does not match your communist predictions. These people are unfit for any kind of work, and no porky is offering them any work.

Nice cognitive dissonance

what jobs are gypsies even taking in slovenia
what the fuck are you talking about

Rich black kids in USA score lower on Autism Level tests than rich white kids. Poor black kids score lower on Autism Level tests than poor white kids.
Shitskin children adopted by white families still have lower Autism Level scores than even white kids adopted by shitskin families.


Find me a post where I said they are taking our jobs. I want to get rid of them for aesthetic reasons mostly. And because I can. And because I dont need them.

But for now we must lay low and not piss off our EU commissars. But when the thing finally goes to shit, so will gypsies.

You are putting words in my mouth. I never said anywhere they are taking any jobs. I said I want to get rid of them, and that they are 99% of our homeless.

Based wordfilters kek

What makes you belive I care about you, the rigjtist drivel is that migrants take their jobs, this exists by design

It doesnt matter if you didnt say it

Civilization and prosperity correlates strongly with race than anything else. Take a look at Norway and Venezuela. Both have infinite oil. Yet only one can pull off socialism.

It doesnt matter what political or economic ideology you subscribe to, shitskins have NEVER pulled off democracy or socialism or anything like that. They seem genetically capped at local warlords killing each other endlessly.

Also

Inb4" censorship!!!!"

Explain this graph then

Also explain these images

How is this my problem?


Your average chink still lives like shit and his civil liberties are a joke compared to European civil liberties. Move to China. Pro tip: you wont.

Looks like you base your worldview and political opinion on your feelings and personal subjective experience

I said somewhere above, they have a 1:1 correlation with national statistics.

Look up crime rates in Slovenia.

That does not explain anything of what I posted

Try again

Glad you got triggered and started spamming the board

Also allow me to rephrase:
I never saw a homeless Slovenian.

iq isn't considered a valid measurement by any remotely scientific standard

though it could be if we test a group of people who basically had the same upbringing, opportunities and social standing
(as in, we take a bunch of suburban kids)
(or we take a bunch of cityfolk)
but don't compare them to eachother of course

Well I give up in that case. Put mental gymnastics aside for just two minutes, and you will see for yourself that for example, Africans on average are less intelligent than Europeans.

This is no rocket science. They had lesser evolutionary pressure. No winters. No need to craft better clothes. Better tools. Better shelters. Snares. Zero need for analytical thought. Just aggression was all they needed to beat their environment.

Evolution doesn't work on that timescale, Mali was the wealthiest nation in the world for a period.

Love how he backpedals from "all non-europeans" to "africans"

love how the principle still describes and predicts reality, just swap the variables and you get slightly different results

Bullshit

this chart is so fucking bad. Don't ever link it again.

wow they aren't Asian?

What kind of a doofus lists modern countries that haven't even existed for 90% of the timeline given? Are you kidding me?

Modern China and India were all patchworks of competing states for most of the years in this thing.

France, (most of)UK, Spain, and Italy were all part of Roman Empire but are all widely different for the first ~500 yrs.

You really expect me to believe that "Germany" had a higher share of the world's GDP than Spain during their Golden Age? Not to mention that while UK and France were colonizing the world that Germany was almost equal to their GDP? (despite being a clusterfuck of different states at the time)

I could go on but I'm sure you can read more history books to realize how shit this is.