In the latest poll the SPD has overtaken Merkel's conservatives for the first time. This means that their new candidate Schulz could really make it.
Right now he's destroying Merkel in the polls. Most germans prefer him and in general he is very popular.
Liam Johnson
for the first time in 10 years*
Jayden Bennett
The SPD is solely socdem now, but I hope they'll at least preform better than the CDU and make the AFD less popular
Nathaniel James
The SPD isn't even really SocDem, it's just pure Social Liberalism at this point.
Jeremiah Smith
They often end up caucusing with Der Linke tho, and as long as they stay strong it's certainly better than Merkel or AfD. Definitely not ideal, but still not as bad as it could be.
Cooper Perez
those votes are fake to stop you from voting for third parties. op is a paid shill.
Brody Baker
Is slick entryism viable with SPD?
Jack Jones
Die Linke are /ourguys/
>"No!"
Nolan Harris
I'm not well-versed in German politics, does that term mean anti-establishment?
Nathan Long
No, its possible in one of the viable coalition partners of the SPD though. Turning die Linke further to the left is a possibillity.
Michael Peterson
stasi was the East-German secret police, they were cunts, but tankies will tell you otherwise.
Nicholas Myers
No, Die Linke are some of the last remnants of East Germany/DDR/GDR, and the Stasi was the secret police. The Stasi existed off the books after the fall of the Berlin wall but was mostly former agents trying to destroy documents and derail investigations, they have the commission for investigating them that Linke rused the other parties by scuppering their candidate because he was staunchly anti-Stasi. Every now and then if you poke Die Linke enough they'll go full tankie over this and other issues. Even though they only have 10% support in OP's pic they have 30% in East Germany.
Nolan Watson
just go away. everytime you make a post, the AfD gains 1%. please stop, traitor.
Asher Watson
kys, tankie
Josiah Thompson
Thx, it's clear now.
Sebastian Ward
Unless you mean "slickly enter 10 inches of Stalinist dick into their anus and force them to get serious," no.
Zachary Collins
You heard him boys. Post until this thread 404s.
Benjamin Turner
Indeed, the East Germans seem to be remarkably fond of a party which supposedly ran a horrific dystopian dictatorship everyone hated…
Easton Thompson
The wall just got 10ft higher!
Julian Myers
what the fuck
Josiah Turner
Ossis have gone full retard since then. Sachsen-Anhalt, the western-most state of the former East Germany which is entirely deep purple in that image, has turned to the right pretty damn hard. Consider these more recent election results.
Josiah Bennett
Oskar Lafontaine
Cooper Roberts
Another problem is, that the guys who vote Linke in the East are pretty much old, and they are dying away.
Xavier Flores
smelly dumb anarkiddie scum
Nathaniel Evans
what does that map represent?
Elijah Wright
Die Linke vote percentage
Austin Morales
2009 polling for Die Linke, the big purple area is former East Germany, where they held power.
Jonathan Thompson
Characteristically Schulz is very similar to Hollande. He is a Schröderist (German blairists) and should he actually become the chancellor, he could end up PASOKfying the Socdems, just like Hollande did in France.
Jose Wilson
The percentage of people who voted for Die Linke, which is a renamed version of the former Communist ruling party of East Germany. This is a map of the DDR. As you can see, the former socialist ruling party remained rather popular.
Charles Hughes
This map is not helpful. Due to the East-West divide, it's clear that former GDR is deep purple while the former FRG is light.
It's hard to discern strongholds in the West that way, like finding nuances in Hessen, since all of Hessen is around 5-10% with the exception of Kassel.
Adam Davis
West-Berlin was never part of the GDR.
Sebastian Ross
Minor detail which is hardly relevant to bringing Amerilards up to speed.
Mason Brooks
Honest question: will the SPD be at all different from the Merkelites? Because both of them seem to be a micron away from the exact center, one in each direction.
fuck yeah
fuck no
Adrian Green
A friend of mine is in the AFD and he told me something that surprised me. These guys are currently having a big internal debate about economic policy. There is a neoliberal faction but it looks like another one is winning out. The AFD, created by dissatisfied citizens, is seriously considering converting a lot of companies into worker coops if they get into power. I'm not kidding, the AFD of all parties has a good chance of being more left wing than the SPD on the issues that count.
Adrian Edwards
Are neoliberals in Europe seeing their last decade in power?
Julian Campbell
What a time to be alive
Connor Mitchell
Sounds based as fuck.
Gabriel Moore
Sorry, but what exactly is surprising about this? Haven't you been following the political development of the past 10 years in Europe?
This is part of the same emergence of 'Welfare Chauvisnism' that has been observed in many European countries.
Most prominently in Denmark, Sweden, France and Austria.
The DPP, the Danish People's Party has been steering the immigrantion policies of Denmark for the last 10 years by combining traditionally social democratic positions and anti-immigrant sentiment and the Sweden Democrats are trying to emulate them.
The French Front National has completely abandoned their old reaganite ways and they have adopted more left wing economic positions likewise.
The recent split of the national conservative and the market liberal wings of the AfD has happened exaclty like this just a few years prior in Austria with the FPÖ (now the most preferred party among Austrian workers) over there and I predict that the AfD will become even less market liberal to prey on former SocDem voters even more to increase their share in the polls.
Parker Johnson
Not sure how to feel about this.
Liam Cox
aka NazBol light
Easton Jenkins
Ahaha what? They are pro-TTIP, pro-Ukraine expansion, anti-Union strikes, pro-privatization. It's not even social liberalism, just neoliberalism with a red symbol.
A single source on how the AfD may turn companies into coops? That sounds insane to me
Brayden Kelly
No. Schulz was a EU-technocrat who supported the chokehold against Greece and lobbied hard for TTIP. Most people just ignore that and think he'll bring social change but even his current statement are nothing concrete, he probably won't even raise that atrocious minimum wage
John Nguyen
Why does Die Linke have to be purple this is such bullshit.
Benjamin Phillips
To be fair the SPD is the second oldest party in Germany and one of the first socialist/social democratic (these words were synonymous in 1850) parties in the world.
They jerk themselves off with their traditional a lot though
Nathan Hall
did they apologise for Rosa tho?
Otherwise I'm not fucking interested
Jacob Lee
What's the oldest?
Andrew Nelson
It more baffles me that Die Linke chose purple. They should have gone with the national colour scheme of the DDR: grey. Shame CDU hasn't tanked by being irresponsible moralfags, could have opened up more interesting options. Would Die Linke, Green and AfD be able to form a coalition in any circumstances?
Luis Taylor
...
Easton Sullivan
All you had to was fucking apologize and the murdering or Rosa is not an isolated incident, it is the praxis of socdems all over the world until today.
Mason Smith
Can you please stop stalling reforms to win elections? You aren't even fulfilling your one incredibly specific goal!
Levi Baker
It's the Zentrum, a conservative catholic centrist party that faded into oblivion after WWII, they used to be quite popular after Bismark alienated the catholic population with his Kulturkampf against Rome. Today they are at something like 0,01%.
Grey was taken by the Grey Panthers I guess, kek
Jose Brooks
SocDems should for Die Linke, SPD is just neoliberal
Brayden Kelly
I'm not arguing a point here man, not trying to lever you politically, just saying, decent thing to do an all. I mean at least to her family.
Juan Foster
Never forget, never forgive.
Ryder Evans
Dang, out of fucking nowhere.
Kayden Stewart
I wouldn't say so. Everbody is fed up as fuck with Merkel but hesitates to vote for the AfD because the situation isn't as horrible as in some other European countries and Germans generally gravitate towards the center.
They are just grabbing the straw that Schulz is and hoping he represents something different but he doesn't and thus his popularity will fade again till summer.
Ian Hughes
DF and SD are social democrats, they just call themselves social conservatives because they are as xenophobic as a southern evangelical anglo-saxon hick. Fucking two-face capitalist scum, fuck their mothers
Eli Lewis
Can you please stop applying old definitions for a newly emerging policital phenomenon?
Clearing this up was parly what my post was about in the first place.
Joseph Turner
Death to those who insult Rosa!
Oliver Sanders
lmao SD literally describes themselves as social conservatives, you non-scandi heathen
Jaxon Kelly
how did this happen?
Nathan Reyes
The irony…
Lucas Campbell
Reminder that Merkel's reign is longer than Hitler's was.
Lucas Gonzalez
BUILD A WALL!
Benjamin Barnes
So basically, Germany is stuck in the same ugh-next-time-I'm-voting-Democrat-ugh-next-time-I'm-voting-Republican rat trap as America? I gotta hand it to Porky, he elevated non-violent scial control to a science.
Jayden Myers
If this happens, will the Linke have more of a say in German politics?
Jeremiah Perry
Did they used to be more socdem? When?
How are they different now?
Matthew Rivera
SPD 1861-1871: Communist 1871-1917: Democratic Socialists 1917-1933: Social Democrats
GDR: 1945-1990: Marxist-Leninist
West Germany: 1945-1969: Social Democratic 1969-1998: Social liberal 1998-2017: Neoliberal
Ryder Edwards
North Korea calls itself 'Democratic People's Republic'.
What's your point dipshit?
Matthew Long
Yup. That increases the chance of a Red-SocDem-Green coalition.
Jacob Evans
I thought everyone in ex DDR was a fascist now
Landon Taylor
If there is a leftist majority then the SPD would have a hard time to justify not entering a coaltion government with the Greens and the Left, especially if the CDU is not ready for extensive concessions within a potential coaltion of the major parties.
So yeah, the Left would have more influence. A few ministeries, at least one of the following Ministry of Interior, Foreign affairs, Economical Affairs, maybe even Labor and social Affairs.
Justin Walker
for a second time*
Ayden Nelson
As usual, libturds don't know what they're talking about.
Caleb James
How is this a bad thing? We need disruptive, violent change. Rather it be tankies than brownshirts.
Lincoln Walker
Look you snotty faggot, whenever I see you post here it's reddit tier pedantic bullshit. The Stasi didn't just evaporate into thin air at the collapse of the Berlin wall. They colluded, infiltrated, exfiltrated and sabotaged investigations not just during the immediate chaos but years afterwards.
Adam Clark
How can the far-left has 10% of the votes in Germany? Is this common?
Nolan Nelson
Crying libturd babies can't deal with it when you show them they talk out of their ass. So they sperg even harder and shit all over the place. Please, continue to show what a stupid dumbass you are, try to impress me.
Christopher Perez
Well they're not far left, they're a big tent party.
Luis Stewart
They're mostly demsocs.
autism
Cooper James
Do you literally think that secret police is like a police force that nobody knows the existence of?
Blake Ross
if it's not in the party platform then it's not happening. stop shilling