Why Nippon games are superior

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I understand the sentiment, but Kojima is all about politics and subtle story bait.

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In general, japanese games tend to get higher expectations when it comes of quality, but Japan isnt really immune to the decline either. It's just less blatant in the West, as our studios focus more on virtue-signaling and """wow""" graphics to grasp the attention of normalfags.

I personally wouldnt buy any japanese game from current Nintendo, Squeenix (save for Dragon Quest), Konami, Capcom and Koei Tecmo due of the crap they released lately

Forgot the fact that japanese games getting ported overseas is also all kind of fucked, with the localization and censorship shit. it's been going for decades and doesnt seem to stop, so the sole way to enjoy japanese games in their true form is to know moonrunes

you can learn japanese

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Doesn't he have this guy working with him?

Yep, and he's holding a white baby.

I don't get where he gets all this praise. He clearly understands nothing of horror when you look at the films he has been directing/producing, his ONLY breakthrough being Pan's Labyrinth and even that was a one-off. He hasn't made anything noteworthy since and when you look at the cancelled Silent Hills game demo, the selling point was jumpscares and making the ghost as "scary" as possible. Not only that, it was enough for him to stop working with video games altogether, which is telling of a bloated ego.

Maybe this is my own opinion, but his films are also extremely forgettable. I remember nothing of his films plots, visuals or characters. They have no high or low points, it's all just static. He also butchered the Blade series with 2. Whereas the 1st one was stylish with a comic book plot, 2 just forgot the style and decided to make an interesting concept into just plain action.

Team Silent understood that you don't need jumpscares to make a horror game. Throughout the mainline series, you can count all of the jumpscare moments on one hand. Silent Hills would have been nothing BUT jumpscares. I am glad this shit got canned, because Del Taco would not have made justice to the series with his poor understanding of horror.

That doesn't mean much if the gameplay is still shit though.

The Western approach is really shit and it frequently ends up giving you the equivalent to Order 1868 or Uncharted, a big cinematic experience full of neat characters, an exciting story and a beautiful scenery that you explore with the gameplay that you've been playing with for the past 20 years. You're essentially playing the same game again but with a different story.

The Japanese approach is a good start, focusing on how you play the game, but it's not a guaranty of quality if the gameplay they design is bad and in the end you don't even have a good story to fall on.
Vanquish is a good example of this.

Vanquish has a neat mechanic regarding your jet boots, but it has a lot of shortcomings since it makes melee combat unviable, it can trigger with low health automatically instead of only with your input and in the end it's still mostly used to move between covers. For all the talk about cuhrayzee combat, you still could only slide on the ground and it didn't perform much differently than just sprinting.
Couple this with the incredibly generic story filled with incredibly generic characters and you get an incredibly generic game, all centered around a gimmick that doesn't even matter that much.

Binary Domain is a better example. It's main gimmick was voice communication so you built a bond with every other character and although it had some terrible controls do to being a port of a console game, it's still a fairly decent shooter with a neat story and cool characters.

I'd argue that neither Vanquish nor Binary Domain play particularly good, despite that supposely being the focus of the devs in a Japanese environment, and rather it's the story that sets them apart from each other, when that should have been secondary to the gameplay. If the idea is to focus on gameplay, they still have to do a lot better.

Blade 2 was great

Why can't this be real life.

He's right if you're only talking about AAA games, if you're talking about smaller games then it's not so true. Then again, I really doubt the average Japanese gamer would know anything about western games outside the really big ones that come out there.

I'll fight you.

The entire article was pretty good. You could tell that, despite coming from France and Ubisoft, the guy being interviewed wasn't a cuck. He understood well that gameplay comes first, and no matter how else the rest of a game is received, a game with shit gameplay is always shit.

Your arguments are sound, but then again you are talking about games that are bad to mediocre. If we were to talk about GOOD japanese and western games, I would say the japanese have the edge now.

Vanquish was a little bland in retrospect, I admit, but when you consider the timespan it was made in, the sheer amount of ideas and originality, the least of which being cutting-edge graphics, Platinum did an amazing job. A western dev would not be able to crank out something like Vanquish in the same time or with the same resources.

The most telling example is MGR:R vs DmC: MGR:R was cobbled together in 2-3 years, while DmC was being worked on for 5 freaking years, and they had to fly in people from Capcom's japanese branch. MGR:R was very entertaining even with all of it's shortcomings, while DmC is only known for 'El Dante.'

That's funny, because I played Vanquish when it came to PC, and it fucking sucked.

I'll agree with you that it isn't an artistic masterpiece, but damn if it wasn't a fun spectacle.

Because it goes against that notion as it is a game clearly targeted to western teenager audience, with a lot of cut-scenes and talking and very simplistic gameplay.
For all the hype it got it's easily one of the weaker platinum games.

I want Vanquish with DMC's melee/combat system, Binary Domain's handling of damage modeling, and a decent story.

I think that'd be a fairly solid game.

Honestly, Western games have a lot of problems.

Japanese also have them:

Weebtards don't listen to logic. They're so pathetically "edgy" about shitting on anything they think isn't "cool" or "deep" enough that any little praise or defense of Japan and its culture is fanboyism.

We need to absolutely tear down this obnoxious up its own ass over emphasis on "muh story" over gameplay and concept that should naturally build it.

Hello burch.

Then say what exactly is wrong them unless you are
and done.

"Muh grafix" and storyfaggotry have literally shown themselves constantly to be the cancer that turns all kinds of potentially good games from the west into utter buggy, barebones shit.

Retard detected.

Elaborate on your hot opinion then.

Some other gems from the article
Well, at least the guy isn't terrible, he saw the light of the rising sun, amirite hope he'll influence more people.

You not only completely missed the OP (that you likely didn't even read), your entire post applies to your entire post.
Goddamit, that was impressively retarded.

you'd have to be retarded to think this when you're on an image board where there's massive threads begging for western releases of some japanese game every week. Even entire communities of people learning another language to play those games.

You're just being a cunt that doesn't know what you're talking about.

The retarded hipsters are all over the internet and every potentially interesting concept nowadays is butchered into a shitty movie with no content or replayability compared to fucking past handhelds.


Another faggot attacking me for absolutely nothing but preemptively going after retards.

you fucking pussy lmao, get bullied by weebs like a bitch

I have no fucking idea what's up with you dude, but by all means carry on, it's starting to get amusing.

This is why I never take criticism of Unity very seriously. It's usually a bad dev doing a crappy work with a decent engine.

And both of those are reskins of The Order, who in turn are just reskins of every other third person shooter that focused more on the story, etc.
They are essentially the same game, you could have the protagonist of Uncharted arriving to his hometown, see it devastated by a mysterious plague, find a loli in the closet and you have TLOU from that point onward.
It's so bad that Gears of War only distinguishes itself in terms of gameplay with the melee kills somewhat, but in the end it still plays mostly the same as well.


Can't you talk with people online without making it personal? And you just called yourself a retard, mate. That was pretty retarded of yourself.
You complained in your post about Weebtards, but then proceed to pretty much agree with everything said in the article, that's why people are "attacking" you.

>>>/cuckchan/

I'm pointing out someone acting like yet another retard, you presumptuous fucking faggot.


All of your replies to me so far as have been nothing but retarded shit.


I don't need to explain I was talking about shit that doesn't know how to use "weeaboo". Literally no different than cuck.

You guys need to fuck off with the Olympics meme. There was one article that speculated about a ban on anime, and it's from the nip equivalent of fucking CNN. By your logic China abolished the communist party because it was offensive to westerners visiting during the Beijing Olympics.

I'm so sick of this obnoxious borderline shilling about the shitty Olympics. We already got enough anger and backlash just for loli before even going to the anger about retarded globalists bitching about their cartoons and games with "sexual violence" in them and "Fuck you" refutation by a woman herself in the government. Then the pixiv incident where Japanese artists straight up called them pathetic and hateful of beauty. Then we got the fury over the britard bullshit channel spewing "hurr pedo" at literal teenagers.

Now we have doujin artists drawing retarded hags as fuckable rape victims. All we need to do is fuel the fire. Go full "baka gaijin" for all I care at this point. Fuck the consequences.

Oh, so you used the "weebtard" term to mention about people that use the term "weeaboo" frivolously. And you don't see why there could be some confusion here?
You're not very good at this whole "language" thing, because you're surrounded by people that agree with you, but you're too passive agressive and dumb to actually make a coherent point.

why post?


Bit different. The communist party is the government, anime is entertainment.
The first can't even be considered for abolishing otherwise you ruin an entire country and you need to admit you were wrong in the first place regarding your political stance.
The second can't even be considered for abolishing otherwise you ruin an entire country but as they don't have any personal stance on it, it's fair game for removal in order to keep a good image.

Until Olympics is done, I will be careful about it.

Can you make answer for my post or are you going to just throw buzzwords?

I rthink you forgot the parliment is slowly working to give Emperor executive power back, but whatever fits your narrative.
Don't forget that foreigners are not only banned from working for the government, but also are banned from recreation venues including certain hot springs. And I doubt any amount of kvetching will fix that, as their immigration has a clause allowing gov to cancel your citizenship for "disrespect of Japanese culture and traditions"

Fine, I got too aggressive just because of some irritation. It was still obvious from context everything wasn't shitting on Japan at all, just retards that won't stop spewing "weeb" and nonarguments.

People have taken more than enough unsympathetic bullshit and it's time to just get pissed and lash out whenever it's deserved. They're just fucking drawings and pixels with big tits, visibly not prepubescent, and whatever amusing wackiness or action their creators want in them and they get all this pathetic, pretentious tryhard bitching. It's unsympathetic transparent snobbishness or self righteousness and deserves 100% no civility, or respect at this point and I won't give it.

You're right, but you need a term better than "weebtards" because it sounds like you're insulting the wrong group.
Personally I just tell them to go back to cuckchan considering how mainstream that site has gotten.

Dubs chooses the porn I dump

Don't expect context alone to carry your meaning, you're on the internet where things like Poe's law exist after all.
Careful or you end up doing the same mistake you did either. You can be as angry as you want and there's some need for it, but if you reach the point of incomprehensible rage, you're doing more harm than good.

But I'll agree that it's fucking hypocritical to have the west parade about "respect foreign cultures!" and then proceed to think they can judge and bend the japanese culture.
Most of their characters are only given an age for the sake of having a complete bio if even that, it's not a detail they focus on. A character being "young" or "mature" or "old" is more important to them than a character being 23 or 45 since it's the archetype that matters for story telling, not the legality of it.

Specifically about lolis, it's obvious they are not kids from the way they talk and think. Their minds are fully mature and therefore the spirit of the law behind many of the things westerns like to invoke don't actually imply. Is a character with the body of a 12 year old but the mind of 25 irrealistic? Probably. Does it matter for fictitious stories? Fuck no. And it's this inability to separate fiction from reality, while complaining about delusions, that really makes these faggots look like the retarded delusional hypocritical assholes they are.

Japan has shown to more often than not put gameplay and mechanics first even in RPGs while the west won't stop trying to force shitty "art" and narratives above all else. You almost never see anything shutting up from AAA about "moving the medium forward" or "discussion" about shit everyone else already fucking knows and understands as basic logic and nature or human decency and morality. It sacrifices any substance for a style that repetitively consists of absolutely nothing.

Please show me the source because I want to verify this retarded cuck and hag fracturing beauty with my own eyes.

You're a retard if you think an entertainment industry that has been around for almost 50 years is getting banned to appease tourists visiting for 2 weeks. I'll never understand why anyone thinks that is a remote possibility.

I don't remember where I read it, but I also found out they don't allow double citizenship so you have to get rid of one (^:

loc.gov/law/help/refugee-law/japan.php
The number of refugees who have been admitted to Japan is much smaller than the number admitted to European countries (see Part IV, below). The reasons may be that

Japan does not have strong ties with the countries where refugees are from;
Japan’s language barriers and cultural differences do not attract refugees;
Japan is located far from the areas where refugees are from;
Japan’s record on refugee acceptance does not attract refugees; and
the standards employed by Japan’s Ministry of Justice (MOJ) in recognizing refugees are very strict
Ok, it's in the link related, article VIII on naturalization, and it files under

Clang

It can be summarized to they don't have Hollywood and America.

Ara

Fair enough.

oppai loli

CIA and Bane

>excerpt from thenewdaily.com.au/news/world/2017/02/16/japan-refugees-australia/
“When we look at the details of the system we can see that the definition of refugee used by Japan authorities is extremely narrow and with a very high burden of proof imposed against the applicant,” he said.

“Japan has a strong cultural identity and tends to view itself as homogenous, and takes a conservative view towards multiculturalism.”

In September, Japan said it would provide $1.6 billion ($A2.1 billion) in assistance for Syrians and Iraqis caught up in conflict.

Announcing that commitment at the UN, Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said despite the country’s labour shortage due to its ageing population, it had no plans to increase its refugee intake.

“I would say that before accepting immigrants or refugees, we need to have more activities by women, elderly people and we must raise our birth rate,” he said.
Oh the horor

>Another: telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/04/not-welcome-japan-refuses-99-percent-refugee-applications/
Yet Liliane is regarded as one of the lucky ones - she was granted refugee status in Japan, a country which refuses more than 99 percent of cases.

"It has not been easy," she tells AFP, speaking under a pseudonym.

She adds: "Here they do not pay for your studies, they do not help you to get bank loans, or give you social housing… we are left to ourselves, we have to fight alone."

Anti-refugee sentiment is rising in Europe and the United States but in Japan those seeking haven from tyranny and war have long faced daunting legal and social gauntlets.

One of the world's wealthiest countries, Japan accepted just 28 refugees in 2016 - one more than the previous year - out of the 8,193 applications reviewed by the Immigration Bureau.

Officials defend the low number, saying applicants are mainly from Asian countries seeking access to Japan solely for economic reasons.

"The number of applications from regions which generate lots of refugees, such as Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq, is small," said Yasuhiro Hishida, spokesman for the Immigration Bureau.
Enphasis on
"The number of applications from regions which generate lots of refugees, such as Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq, is small," said Yasuhiro Hishida, spokesman for the Immigration Bureau.
As seen on numerous other countries in europe, if you don't give out BENEFITS, refugees have little interest in going to your country. Most "refugees" applying to enter japan are not even from war thorn countries, just people trying to pull an immigration scam.

Stay strong based nips

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Please don't.

When you see anything about "muh soggy knees" because of 2D or sexy women in general it's literally always coming from an insecure ugly retarded hag, a bitter cuck that knows deep down drawings and pixels are more attractive and likable than either of the shit could ever be, let alone be with, or it's just another desperate pretentious faggot on the internet trying to shit on everyone else to look smarter and "progressive" than anyone else. Just look at the insufferable smirking or sneering shit in its worthless Facebook or Twitter pics thinking it looks "smart" with those white numale beards and glasses posing "confidently" with arms crossed to look tough or adjusting the wretched frame to remind how big a deal it is wearing them.

This
is the shit calling all of you "privileged", "immature" or "uneducated" and shitting on its own race and body just to look appealing to the below the barrel trash willing to open its repugnant, detestable axe wound out of a pathetic, undeserved sense of validation.

It's never from anything else and all of you know it at this point yet all this worthless monotonous debate about creative freedom or needing to point out who's a "strong female character" instead of just pointing out "Wanting sexual gratification or to feel sexy is inconsequential everyday human nature, just shut the fuck up, you pathetic shit" or "You're just a pretentious retard calling them icky or "objects" just because they're not ugly insecure shit like you" obnoxiously persists despite everyone else, normal or autist, having more than enough intelligence and sense otherwise to have collectively, relentlessly, exclusively done so from the start.

Is it any coincidence whatsoever these same reprehensible retards support barbaric degenerate cults that cover up women and constantly screech about any sexuality? Fuck no.

I just want to point out that Japan is quite a distance away from those countries. It's really not like they can just walk there or sail on a boat across almost every ocean to reach Japan, so of course the amount of applicants is going to be smaller.
Keep this in mind before you use this as an actual argument, or your opponents will remind you of this.

And it's not like you don't have better examples of this shit anyway. Plenty of countries surrounding theirs that aren't in war and could take refugees and yet they'll trek across the entirety of Europe to reach the northern countries where the gibs happen.

Oh yea?

Every time

Fair enough
The point I wanted to make still stands, but in regards to other asian refugees.
I know, I know…

Please note that you can only be a refugee in the closest/neighboring country with no war in it.

I can't find any definition that says that.

You know what?
You don't get to choose

Nigger what the fuck

Thanks, doc.

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Eh, good old guro. Love this one because it reminds me of my own health problems.

fuck that no matter what anyone says you will not clarify this shit. dont you fucking dare

i know youre a shill, but i'll respond to negate any effect you had in your shitty response
then you dont know what it means to escape something. a refugee is defined as "one who flees in search of refuge" and refuge is safety.
so naturally, once you flee and find refuge, you are a refugee as long as you stay there. if you continue to travel, you are now traveling from your refuge and are now just a traveler/migrant/invader you cant be "searching for refuge" after you've already found it.

I used to be sick a lot in highschool because I hated taking shits, so would go days without. Once we went on a week long trip for a class and I didn't shit at all during it.

This guy gets it. It should be mandatory for western designers to train in Japan, and if they can't hack it there, they get the boot. Unfortunately, marketing reigns supreme in the rest of the world, so as long as you can fabricate some trailers you can stay in business.

So that's why so many nip games all look like generic animu shit with no stylistic soul

What do you mean? These get posted a lot.

the difference is western games come from 2 kinds of places and rarely anywhere else. 1 big studios where the game is primarily made with marketers and investors that want "safe" investments. 2 indie studios run by pretentious hacks.

in japan the small game studios are common and their size allows creative decisions with minimal oversight. their big companies still allow trusted directors to take creative control. indie studios are primarily run by game enthusiasts that want something niche and unique.

Sorry, but that's fucking bullshit and you know it.
The point is, what does it matter even if they are underaged? It's not real you fucking faggots
Also, how could some faggot find drawings as child pornography is beyond me

source?

Every time

No, you will not dump.

kemono

Kill yourself consolecuck
Vanquish is pretty good but was overhyped as shit.

Boku no flavor of the month

It's 2017. You aren't allowed to say something like this. Even the otaku and anime fans in the West now know that west is best and white is right and everything Japanese is fucking garbage for retarded weebshitter pedophile NEETs unless it's a popular 80s-90s anime movie or console game (don't get them wrong though, they're totally HUUUUGE fans of anime and Japanese games, they say so themselves).

Western things are the epitome of perfection and the culmination of the existence of the entire universe. They are the ultimate final reality climax made in god's image. And not this fucking gookshit from literal bug people who steal everything from glorious white americans and then have race traitor weebcucks shill their soulless mass produced rip-offs. By the way, did you know that weebs are the biggest threat facing humanity, even worse than global warming and the depletion of resources?

Don't get me wrong though, I'm not a westaboo or a nationalist or something, I'm just plainly explaining the objective facts of our existence in the current year. It's those weebs you gotta watch out for, they're fucking crazy. I heard one of them say that Attack on Titan looks better than Family Guy and I was literally triggered and had to go play with fidget spinners and legos at my campus safe space in order to calm down, while singing the national anthem as loudly as possible to drown out the voices. Fucking weebs.

Kill yourself

You aren't from here faggot go away

Ara/ss incest.

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Heres your (You) faggot

Kill yourself :^}

Academia? because I don't remember seeing that monster in there?

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Cause they know how to deal with woman.
imgur.com/a/OaNFL

Japanese games are more frustrating because they always do some things right while also doing a lot wrong. Western games are typically hit or miss where they're either great or complete trash.

Japs need to learn to
TONE DOWN THE EXPOSITION
just let me play the fucking game.

Academia was last seasons FotM. We're talking about the current one, so get with the times Grandpa.

It's sad because there's people that actually believe this.

This season's FOTM is Made in Abyss.

You heard the man user.
POST IT!

Already purged.

I've noticed this as well. Western games tend to be overly ambitious and allow for creative freedoms, while Japanese games are very strictly and intelligently designed where you have to learn the game in order to play it well. I think it has to do with differences in culture: the west is lazy and so prefers lax design, while the east is serious and so prefers rigid design. Of course, there are some exceptions, but this seems to be the general rule. Americans simply hate putting effort into anything.

i remember some greek professor praising his movie, specially that scene, "now that is what i call a monsters!", i was about to tell him that the aliens are way more scarier but he already hated by then.

Japanese developers have more freedom when it comes to story writing. Unfortunately, they're not as free to experiment with mechanics and gameplay. They want a well polished product coming out of the line.

Western devs are allowed more freedom to experiment with gameplay and mechanics but usually neglect story writing. Western devs don't really give a shit about polish and most of their innovations are usually released as poorly functioning gimmicks.

Dunno. I feel as though the differences in how the education systems work are also at play. Talking out of my ass but I feel as though most Japanese majors (in Japan) are actually creative people and not complete fuckups like English majors.


Japan also produces plenty of shit and I'd imagine that most shitty games made in Japan stay in Japan.

>(((western))) cuck shitpost

god damn it, you threw me off.

I would argue the oppisite actually due to the fact that most AAA game devs play it extremely safe while having little to no innovation in their gameplay while relying on brand name and heavy marketing, not saying that the Japanese are perfect. However when I see the cool shit that SEGA and Namco are doing, it really makes you think that some companies are realizing that marketing budgets can only do so much if the game is a bad game.

I don't play many AAA games so I can't tell ya but I've noticed that they're always throwing in shitty little gimmicks.

Christmas came early this year.

Japanese games have alot more diversity when it comes to gameplay. CuHHRAZY, Fightan, platformers Rpgs, etc. etc. were all invented by japanese game designers. I guess the one thing western game developers have is that they innovated shooters, but beyond that what have western developers really invented??

Japanese games have alot more diversity when it comes to gameplay. CuHHRAZY, Fightan, platformers Rpgs, etc. etc. were all invented by japanese game designers. I guess the one thing western game developers have is that they innovated shooters, but beyond that what have western developers really invented??>>13402813

sorry about the nigger posts website is running like shit again

Old western games > New japanese games = Old japanese games >>>>>>>>>>>>> New western games
Sage since we have these threads all the time.

Long gone are the days of Wing Commander and the X-Wing games. The closest we'll ever get to that again is the half assed DLC pack or whatever it is that adds space combat to Battlefront 2.

ah yes old western games like this funny click and guess game about pirates written by two fat sjws who aren't really funny and things like planet escape tournament which is renown for its bad game play and wordswordswordswordswordswords

m8 western games always been shit

I always thought it was the other way around. At least back in the 5th and 6th gen days, even big japanese companies didn't fear making niche, small aesthetic games to experiment with gameplay mechanics. Stuff like Katamari Damacy, Vib-Ribbon, Cosmic Smash and all the "Weird" obscure japanese games for PS2 and Gamecube.

I always thought it was the other way around. At least back in the 5th and 6th gen days, even big japanese companies didn't fear making niche, small aesthetic games to experiment with gameplay mechanics. Stuff like Katamari Damacy, Vib-Ribbon, Cosmic Smash and all the "Weird" obscure japanese games for PS2 and Gamecube.

Is it just me or are most ported Jrpg's pretty damn boring?
They all seem to follow the same recipe and all make sure that eventually you have a party of dozen or more companions most who are incredibly one-dimensional and seem to solely exist for the sake of having the token tomboy,shy cute girl and such which when you have all or most of the companions is usually also the turning point in plot and game overall where it really goes down the drain.

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You sound pretty butthurt buddy

That's funny all my favorites look like shit.
The big trend in Japan for a long time now has been "games as character delivery system". They now care about characters more than the things they're from or how they appear. That's why so many games from Japan feel like shovelware titles or have graphics that are incompetent when you're dealing with character delivery systems as games.