I'm a new lurker to this board, and I'm confused by NazBol

I'm a new lurker to this board, and I'm confused by NazBol.

Without muddying the waters, are they just a group of people who propose to establish a classless society but only for their race?

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They're a meme, we just let them stay around because they're kinda funny.

they are useless Lumpen functional to liberal faggot Kasparov

NazBols are a bastard version of extreme Maoism, they are not racist but defining themselves through an archaic anti-liberal state of being in the sense of Heidegger.

Practically they are like Third Worldists and pan-nationalists. They trigger the shit out of most of the board so that's a good thing

We could use more anti-liberalism these days

It's basically a prank, just ignore them.

They're nazis with a hammer and sickle in the middle of their flag instead of a swastika.

We're always willing to carry that torch famrades.

they're like nazis but even more confused about what they want

it's just a leftypol meme, they don't actually exist

They are not nazis, they are just ultraleftwing imperialists

We all are.

I don't get them either, but they are one of the coolest posters on this board.

They exist in Russia, their leader is Eduard Limonov, some of the nazbols are fighting in the Eastern Ukraine. One of the russian nazbols is black citizen of Latvia

I'd rather side with NazBols than anarchists

They do, there is even a European party that is pan-European NazBol.

pcn-ncp.com/sindex.htm

Why do so many leftist parties have websites which look like they were designed before the end of the USSR?

What do NazBols think of other continents?

e.g. are they Pan-African?

This, I'd rather take Asserists and NazBols than anarkiddies

I'd assume they would be considering they like Gaddafi

youtube.com/watch?v=ILsVaOrO8l8

Literal nazis and somehow I'm not surprised.

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Literal Nati0nal Socialists, yes, which makes them better than Hitler's National Capitalists.

That's what we call a lie. Like the "democratic" "people's republic" of north korea. The nazis weren't really socialist.

sounds good

Color me surprised.

lel nazis

I'd let a nazbol hatefuck me

Prepare to have your means of reproduction seized.

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What about tender love-making?

Both is good

They're a meme, don't take them seriously

I warned you about memes.
I WARNED YOU ABOUT MEMES.

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It's idpol taken to its logical conclusion.

The actual Bolsheviks were radically internationalist and anti-chauvinist. They were vehemently opposed to tsarism and its Russian nationalist stooges. In the same sense any Bolshevik is completely opposed to the Putin and to the new Russian nationalism.

On the other hand, National Bolshevism is essentially a completely unprincipled ideology. It is defined by nationalism, not any other higher principles and in this sense it is completely opposed to the principles of actual Bolshevism. Bolshevism is there just for show rather then because of its higher principles like anti-imperialism. It completely bastardizes the ideology, in this sense nazbols can even combine their ideology with support for the unprincipled imperialist Putin.

I think the confusion is that commies have draws from the hardline that all nations are just arbitrary divisions by the global bourgeoisie designed to fragment the working class, and they point to a set of historical examples of nation-state building, etc. to prove this. This is their main argument, other than blaming various abominations such as USSR, China, DPRK and Nazism on nationalism itself. Both are fair and reasonable enough points.

NazBols and other civic/pan nationalist socialists see this as a highly naive oversimplication. They tend to take a different view on the national question and see the nation as being on some fundamental level organic and/or dynamically historically constructed, and something that cannot just be abolished simply because you don't think it's useful to your purposes. You can attack the bourgeois caricature, with its mythological narrative and propaganda aspects and tendencies towards expansionary chauvinism, but NazBols see "nationalism" as like "socialism", something also routinely coopted by the bourgeoisie and turned into a propagandized farce of itself. Even under blanket repression for decades nationalism in a variety of forms resurfaces.

The idea of creating authentic proletarian nation states is a dialectical, stategic standpoint to try bring about a better world, making use of what we've got, not what we'd like to have. It's about saving us from the nightmarish neoliberal techno-singularity and transhumanism wildly socially engineering us into an unrecognizable and empty abomination, which many commies seem to think is a good thing coz they think it'll immanentize a woke af global proletariat. It's delusional and they only entertain it because they have had no responsibilities in life, tend to have problems socializing, and are going through a youthful identity crisis. NazBols are often also trying to prevent it from flipping the other way into open authoritarian ethno-fascism. NazBols see this state as more likely removing the conditions of possibility for wokeness.

The asshurt stems from our critique of the liberal-progressive, universalist, meliorist narrative, that somehow replicates significant elements in itself in the mind of """anarcho-nihilists""". According to the edgy teen socdmes here this makes NazBols fugging gonservatives, ie nazi reactionaries, ie gulagbait. Of course the modern left is a number of trolls who exploit hypersectarianism for kekes. The flag is purposefully inflammatory.

Maybe you feel it's unprincipled because all the soulless ML-lite goons have a completely tautological ideology. You mistake being stuck thinking in a closed circle for consistency in iron convictions. All you do is screech about "critically" "supporting" different groups and leaders as if your little club's support even substantively means anything to anyone. You claim to be dialecticians but you just play a blame game assigning people to various -ism boxes based on other degrees of -isms, it's spergy and hell as makes you seem like you just really want to larp as an lower nomenklatura apparatchik bean counter consigning various kulaks to various concentration camps.

Marxism is universalist and meliorist too.

Please take this schizo-opportunistic goon and his traditionalist hogwash out of here. His shitty site Katehon even allowed Richard Spencer to publish articles there.

Is that real?

Actually Black Front was pro nationalization, pro-union, cooperated with jews and argued for closer ties with Soviet Union.

Not really, not in the same senses at all, and if so, only in some interpretations. As in social democracy reformism. We are referring to dominant mythologies of our time that tend to be critically underexamined by the bourgeois intelligentsia and the cosmopolitan masses they inflluence, who tend to be true believers.
He's a meme.
Marxists certainly hold to certain traditions as well, often inconsistently. I think you're just throwing terms around that you have no idea what they mean.

They are either ironic shitposters or Holla Forums trying to infiltrate, so garbage either way