Acid Wizard Studio recently released a game via the pirate bay and it really got me thinking about a few things. What if people made games and released them for free? Imagine, you release your game and its really good so it builds a fan base. That fan base could then fund future projects through personal donations. They like the content you create so they pay you to keep making it. In a way like how youtube creators use patreon to fund future content, devs could have individual patrons for funding. This would create a sea of instantly better games since you would really have to make somthing great to stand out and get funding to stay a developer. Another plus to this method is that you could forget about copyright law and create ANY content you wanted, even your own star wars game or whatever.
==future standard is earning your shekels
Henry Long
did they label it "totally_not_a_virus.rar"
Nathaniel Foster
When was the last time a freeware game has attracted tons of attention?
Jordan Anderson
Cave Story
Parker Taylor
This isn't a new concept, it's called Freeware. It used to be done a lot back in the day on PC games by small garage devs.
Honestly? Freeware indie games should be a standard. But bigger game companies want pay, it's only natural.
Camden Reyes
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Wyatt Turner
A thread idea so shite he posted it twice
Adam King
Brink
Hunter Rivera
Ace of Spades.
Zachary Robinson
Already two or more threads up with identical OPs We have a shill.
Angel Allen
There are gamedevs right now that get funded by patreon. Guess for what kind of game that works. porn or furry porn games and also yandere simulator
So if that is all you want to play your idea is very good.
Carson Flores
At the end of the day people are too greedy. They say its jews but if they were that rich they would also not give a shit about large swathes of humanity. People dont want to earn their keep, they want to be overpaid for half assing. All devs do now is create shit and shine it before release so people buy it
Jaxon Robinson
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Brayden Jones
OG spelunky
Eli Price
Actually there was just one other thread but it was deleted and I only posted it becasue I fucked up the OP and thought this thread would be the one deleted after I posted the second one. Not everything is an attack on a board
Andrew Perry
Does flash meatboy and binding of isaac count?
Angel Brooks
bring back shareware
Joseph Ward
Battle for Wesnoth
Leo Butler
Imagine how much attention you could bring to a free if you were able to ignore copyright. You could make literally anything you wanted.
Angel Rodriguez
Something that yields no profits can never be an industry standard
Camden Wright
Unreal Tournament 4 got a lot of buzz when the alpha released, it just lost everyone due to slow updates, and the fact that it's an actual arena shooter.
Julian Jenkins
What are you, a communist?
Camden Allen
Please go back to retardland, everyone there misses you.
Brayden Lee
If people turned their back on games that you had to pay for it would force devs to release for free or not make games. They could still make their money, only much more honestly. People would support developers known for producing great content instead of doing things the way we do them now. Unfinished garbage thats basically paid beta is not a gaming industry I want to be a part of. The current practice is to be a used car salesman and lie your way into sales.
Hudson Peterson
And how is someone supposed to keep making games if they have no money, huh?
Connor Rodriguez
They have a job and just make games as a hobby faglord. Remember when people made games cause they thought they were fun?
Henry Jones
you need to educate the population before a luxury game games can be fixed.
Jacob Thomas
All it takes is a semi decent computer and an engine and youtube to make a game. Its not an expensive thing to get into. Like any buisness venture in america you need to work a regular job untill you earn the capital to buy what you need to get started. dont be thick, america is built for you to win if you try.
Aaron White
That would make you a cuck.
Anthony Richardson
So they just give their hard work away to people for nothing? That makes them sound like stupid assholes to me.
Adrian Flores
if all games were released free there would still be shit games and p2w if people supported it but there would also be a boom in amazing quality games by passionate people
Tyler Price
Its a show of good faith in your target audience. Your giving them somthing free to prove you are worth paying instead of building garbage and tricking people into buying it.
William Sullivan
I'm talking about how kikes work. They will suddenly pull the wool over the normalfag's eyes and present them with a "free" game that has ungodly grind or a pay to pass feature or something that slimy. I'm saying that we won't fix vidya unless we fix the population.
Colton Scott
Don't forget the fact that it's not a standalone game and you need some autistic frontend launcher to even running. Also they didn't release any iteration of it onto steam. It's like they wanted it to flop.
Elijah Perry
People do that all the fucking time asshole. You don't need to be compensated for everything.
Robert Mitchell
Nigga u dum
Isaiah Mitchell
Yeah but people would see through it quick. The people who choose to stick with those games are just cattle and theyll be milked reguardless of whos doing it or what industry its in.
Nicholas Diaz
user, I think you are missing the point. You can be as bad of a goy as you can but as long as there are 1000 good goyim to take your place nothing will change.
Benjamin Lopez
Gamers need to make games for gamers. Also developers need to listen to people who play games but cant make them, they have amazing ideas for games.
Ryan Smith
I cant even convince my cousin on the criminality that is microtransactions, how would you convince the horde?
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Jacob Cook
You can release freeware without it being a pirated copy you autistic retard.
Logan Nguyen
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Daniel Brown
You can upload non cracked software to the pirate bay you fucking idiot
Ryder Reed
Using freeware for a socioeconomic statement and publicity is bad.
William Adams
That's the 10 million shekel question. Besides, in the state the world is in would make it impossible for anyone to shit on usury because yids have conditioned the population throughout the world that a monetary system and usury go hand in hand. In short, there is a lot to fix before we can fix vidya gaem.
Adam Morris
It is if you have bills to pay.
Camden King
Really? Cause it seems to have worked for this dev.
Evan Gray
Why are programmers so desperate to give away their work for free? Just so people think you're better than Pajeet Rahajamal? It's really quite sad. Code monkeys and vidya niggers are so desperate for attention that they give away their time for free.
Benjamin Young
(((you)))
Brayden Hernandez
Yeah, people who make music in their freetime because they like it fucking suck, we should fucking hunt them down and lynch those people.
Or those filthy cunts who dare to make art in their sparetime.
And dont even get me started on those gaylords who code as a hobby.
James Barnes
This is retarded, there are countless games being released as freeware yearly, this is just a marketing stunt.
Ryder Butler
If we fix video games first then the influence can trickle up
Grayson Walker
What i think when I think "game" is somthing complete beggingin to end with all the parts there. Not somthing I have to put money into to get better or somthing that is cut in half and forces me through a pay wall.
Easton Perez
Could you imagine if devs released whole good games for free on mobile? Imagine a full length zelda like game or somthing on moble with no gimiks and of good quality. Imagine gameboy advanced teir games making mobile a legit gaming platform.
Robert James
What im proposing isnt virtue signaling, its about encouraging good developers to mmake good games to get away from kike companies. Its part of the effort to break free on all levels
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Jaxon Cook
I think you have it backwards. Vidya changes with the population, not the other way around.
Jace Harris
yeah making a game is very easy. anyone can do it and peoples time isnt worth anything.
Joshua Ross
Thats the whole point. Weed out the faggots like you who would be in it for the money and not the game
Lucas Nelson
Legal intimidation to enforce legally null EULAs works, does that make it good? No.
Jacob Hernandez
No, that's freemium. There's a fucking difference. Freeware is totally free of charge, no money involved. Freemium products charge money for a superior or fuller product. Freemium takes multiple forms, either in shareware distribution of the business practices of F2P games. Freeware games are made and released all the time.
Aaron Evans
Of course its labour intensive to make a game. Thats why if you decide to try it you better give it your best to catch a following and not just throw assets together like digital homicide
Chase Stewart
*or
Ayden Myers
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Carter Harris
All it takes is a semi decent computer, an engine and a pirated version of photo shop (2d) or somthing like blender for free 3d. Nigger
Christopher Gutierrez
Game maker is $100 go fuck yourself
Ryan Parker
You forgot time, jackass.
Bentley Foster
That's not how it works though, for a game to not be shit and to be big enough that it gets some attention you need some budget. And most small Devs don't have a lot of budget. Without money you can't properly advertise your free game. I mean if someone from Reddit would find it and would advertise it there then maybe because Reddit always makes people famous but without a shit ton of luck your game won't advertise itself on it it's own.
Jason Brown
Where do you retards come from?
Jaxson Jones
Yeah and the game like makes itself right? Fucko
Juan Murphy
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Andrew Edwards
Yes.
Brody Sullivan
This reply is what he wanted. He's thankful.
Carter Mitchell
So are you willing to put hundreds or thousands of hours into a game and release it for free? Or is that just what you expect from other people?
Zachary Adams
That too
Eli Turner
What made you think I dont practice what I preach? Becasue you dont? Was that projection?
Jonathan Nguyen
Post your game
Aaron Russell
Nigger one hour spent productively can get alot done.
Nathan Cook
What game? kek
Asher Bennett
The one you have that proves you practice what you preach
Nathaniel Watson
My last post was the joke and you missed it.
Hudson Gutierrez
You're gonna have to explain the joke because I don't think anybody laughed
Anthony Morgan
Good to know that your high Standards are just for everyone else
Henry Cook
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Colton Adams
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Dylan Brown
Good. There is no ethical consumption under capitalism.
Zachary Anderson
You are certainly not helping the point that more people should release games for free. Lead by example.
Dylan Bailey
yo momma
Angel Wilson
So you are just demanding this and you will not pay to have your vision become a reality and you are not ging to lead by example. Why would anyone give you what you want?
Joseph Anderson
OP, there's something called "free to play", I think you might like it.
Jaxon Myers
So basically do what leftist SJWs do and depend on (((Patreon)))
Daniel Foster
Ethics is a spook
Benjamin Torres
You're utterly fucking insane.
Brandon Perry
Oh great, now Holla Forums is here to try and justify this welfare queen niggardry. You know if those losers think free video games is a good idea, then it's fucking horrible.
Nathaniel Williams
you mean a jewish trick?
Cameron Walker
I truly wonder who could want us to think shareware is bad.
Carson Williams
No, you have that backwards.
Charles Taylor
Why are you posting an airbrushed photo of someone that insnt even Stalin at all? About every photo of him is airbrushed to hell and back because he was too much of a pussy due to his small pox scaring. It is fucking obvious too if you know a little bit about photo editing. Fucking retard.
Parker Harris
Wesnoth if FOSS, not freeware. A subtle distinction but still an important one.
Funding one man (or a handful of people) to make videos is not comparable to the costs of vidya development on a large scale. This would only be practical for indie games.
Christopher Stewart
Why does Stalin look like a Mexican?
Luis Torres
Something can be freeware and open source.
What the fuck, he doesn't. Just look at this here Mexican for proof. Looks nothing like him.
Jayden Jenkins
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Noah Evans
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Dominic Fisher
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Brandon Phillips
WOOOW
Anthony Diaz
That is what porn videogames do. No one wants to pay for porn but people are willing to donate to it. Even when the person is a known scammer like S-purple. Vid related.
Luis Barnes
Slave Trainer, Breeding season, Corruption of Champions, ect. These people are making hundreds of thousands a year making simple porn games.
Evan Edwards
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Jacob Williams
Donations aren't profitable, if anything it would be like a mobile market; microtransaction laden, oversimplified, and RNG-infested.
Lincoln Campbell
Except that's how most entertainment enterprises already start, numbnut. You're literally describing most cases of entrepreneurship, and why people implicitly put up with businesses even when they turn into asshats later on, because they don't have the balls or brains to set up something better. And loads of people release games that never catch on without a huge marketing/self-promotion push. This leads to now that gaming is growing in revenue.
Which wouldn't happen if so many people actually paid a few bucks for good games instead of pirating everything or sucking the dongs of the giant corporations and being fucking geyfanbois for them. As much as people scream about jews, the bullshit microtransaction gambling systems now in place are a way for developers to provide a game for free to 99.99% of the player base while 0.01% pays to keep the game running. It's actually sad that devs have to psychologically trick people into paying five bux for a damn game. And for all the tarts screaming about DRM, there's a reason why Steam revenue is almost always higher than GOG and Humble.
Where do you redditfucks come from. I would immediately value the labor of talented artists and programmers above shitty accountants who can do what you could with a few minutes of learning, for the time it takes to get to their level, but leave it to the children of the world to say "fuck that" and think good art and gameplay are magic and in infinite supply. Then they wonder why the fuck good talent is so rare in the industry. Oh yeah, and then they keep rewarding and falling for the cheapest and most soulless tricks. Goddamn, I guess it's a better use of my time spending $100 to declare myself a business and start hawking affiliate leads for commissions on the web like no tomorrow than try to make the next digital masterpiece only to have it show up on like ten "most underrated games of all time" lists a decade from now.
Ryan Edwards
Hey guys, I found the jew.
Adrian Bailey
There are tons of free games on old sites like Newgrounds, on porn sites, on romhack sites, on indie dev sites like Kongregate, on company sites like Disney and Pokemon and Adult Swim, and on Youtube with the choose-your-own-adventure video feature.
Your loss, asshole.
Evan Gray
The only jew here is you, buddy. Remember, when you point the finger, you have three fingers pointing back at yourself.
Anthony Nguyen
But that's what you already have, people just don't see it that way.
A dev starts working on his first game and releases it to the public. It has a price tag but the game has already been paid for either with money or his time. The game is done and you can get it for free by pirating anyway, so it's essentially free.
Whenever you pay for a game, you're not adquiring a product (that doesn't even make sense for virtual goods) but rather you're funding the guy that did it so he can make further projects.
Let's say a dev is planning on making a trilogy. He makes Game 1 and puts it up for sale. If you buy this game, you're funding Game 2 because you liked Game 1 and want to see more of it. Game 1 is already done, available and paid for by the devs. Then the cycle repeats and when you buy Game 2, you're funding Game 3. The key here is that the Dev takes the first step in giving you something and you then decide if you want more of his work or not by buying it.
Jordan Adams
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Bentley Butler
I'm a buyfag who pays for things he could conceivably pirate.
This could work out for the niche weebshit I like to play.
Oliver Sanchez
Well according to OP you should just give away the first game and also fund the second game yourself. So you can work on your second game part time or burn your savings, but thats ok since it keeps out people that are not commited enough. Making sure people have to invest heavily in order to be allowed to make money will surely keep out the big evil publishers.
Jack Green
It doesn't, check out /hgg/. Several porn games are made with a Patreon or Kickstarter and the great majority never go anywhere, they just burn their fans money. And when they put something similar when the game is done, nobody pays for it.
What could work was the devs releasing the game open source while giving an option to buy it already compiled. Players could get the game for free, even mod it all they want but there's still a legal way to support the author that gives you a simpler way to acquire the game.
Christopher Morris
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Joshua Johnson
Stop shilling this shit already! Giving away your game for free is not as innovative as you think.
William Flores
This is it. This is rock bottom. Shilling as a word has no meaning whatsoever from this point onwards. You could replace "shilling" with "talking about" and every single sentence uttered with that word would sound and mean the exact same.
Nathan Cruz
they wud starve we wuz famous and sheit
Your best employees will leave you to make actual money you fucking mouth breathing cuck. Because faggots that never gave you any money will most definitely rush to buy your first paid product.
Isaac Flores
Fuck your morality, this isn't about whether it's "right or wrong" it's about money. People who pirate exclusively won't pay for it will never buy it, never they have never done so before and never will there is however a subset of pirates who buy things after they've pirated something and like it and an even bigger quality which is far more important Word of Mouth advertising. Here is what the dev did, he gave himself word of mouth publicity because Pirates are generally the ones who will talk about the products they play bluntly which will trickle down to others who would be willing to buy the game if it's good or not, in fact the harder something is to pirate the less word of mouth spreads and as a result the worse off the result.
This practically killed nuDoom and why Bethesda has kept their demo up indefinitely.
Leo Wood
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Julian Morales
Well yeah it requires people not to be stupid and understand their niche games cannot rely on normalfags funding it.
Thats the problem of making games for weebs and other outcasts: they are resourceful enough to know how to pirate but lack any connection to society to find a for need Steam friend lists and achievements.