Creation Club Officially Live

This is not a real person.

(Nice dubs)
There will always be people retarded enough to fall for it (I predict many consolefags are going to fall for it), and if even a small group of people do it, then it will be worth it for them. It's literally sitting back reaping the reward while someone makes a shitty mod for them, they lose next to nothing. One of the most Jewish things I've seen in quite some time.

add him

HE'S NOT EVEN FUCKING HIDING IT

add him yourself: steamcommunity.com/id/BrainFlush

yeah, the goodest goy's profile smacks of being a beth developer or somebody working in the (((industry)))

We should make a list of words and phrases Bethesda shills use when paid mods are brought up.
I'll start us off with a few

And let's not forget what to look out for on their profiles!

What is the exchange rate for screw attacks?

My name is Rodd, if you are addressing me fellow anonymous in your previous post I'd like you to know a few things.

1. Fallout 4 is a great game and a season pass is a must
2. Mods are a form of information, and as we all know money is how the community steers information; IE mods
3. Buying mods will not only help your beloved developers and publishers, it will also give credit to the developers of the mods you and all your friends enjoy! So don't worry so much anonymous, we here at Bethesda have only the greatest interests in mind!

It's human cattle. The wrong kind.

Okay first of all toddposting was never funny, and second of all gabe newel a.k.a. "the great betrayer" was the one who said information was money. To which a user replied "not all of us have so much money we can pretend it's information."

Might as well post the last of my rare todds.

fuck off todd you admittedly handsome manlet

Modders are probably tearing one another apart like before. Community not so sure.

Fuck you.

who

Those are some pretty good numbers in your post, and ID.

The shitrim and FO4 communities were optimistic until today, the Morrowind and FNV communities expected this from the beginning.

since we're on the subject of modding.

Should I Holla Forums?

uninstall the game? Yah.

why

;)

I actually have a job mate, don't worry.

>implying you won't be too

good goy

Casuals complain about things as they buy them. They'll take it up the ass every time as 'casual' is a personality trait not a preference.

And they will still pre-order skyrim 2 goty deluxe director's cut test of time edition.
Such is the nature of nor mies.

Like pottery.

So faggots, how smug are you to have never paid for a bethesda game right now?

Like 9/11 smug

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It is a smart move because tards will buy it, ironically or not.
And I bet this place is filled with more tards who bought NV "b-but it was on sale".

Btw this makes me think what porn modders will do. Bethesda wouldn't allow that shit on their system and autists at loverslab are the kind of people that would love this shit. Wouldn't be surprised if they also start using a system like this

dear fuck I hope that video isn't going to affect my reccommendations

Just as smug as I am every day about it. If I had one wish it'd be to unmake Bethesda and Zenimax.

norm ies reee

it's one of those fucking "prank call" videos

Christ, this just makes me furious, I honestly hope this will fail to infect other modding communities, because theirs is going to be filled with low effort cash-grabs
Well if you seem to be of that state of mind let me remind you of the disaster that was Steam Greenlight, an unending scourge of cashgrabs and scams. If this only affects the shit-tier games of Bethesda, good riddance, although I doubt that it will be the only one to be ruined

*Sorry for the autistic rant*

JUST Forgive me, I'm retarded

No good modding community is anything like bethesda's.

Bethesda's mod community is about to implode too. A mere day of paid mods on Steam tore it apart, this shit will destroy it utterly.

Lol even Gopher is rambling mad, why get your mods for free when you can pay fallout money coins for them?

???

Yeah famous modder and youtuber.

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steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=945024568
Shit taste

Damn it feels so damn good to be this right. Do we ever get sick and tired of winning? because this shits good.

BURN HOWARD BURN! BURN HOWARD BURN!

There is no reason to be mad.

Truly horrifying.

I just hope this shit stays with Bethesda and their games.
If it spreads, I'll be pirating mods.

The majority of modders opposed it so I don't see it spreading, the only way it'll spread is if the developers give us no other choice to which then more projects like SWGEmu and OpenMW will become a thing. In the end all it'll do is push people to make modding even more freer without the permission of the stupid publishers or developers. The only kick in the nuts is that there will be no initial mod interest at all for games on release, but who cares anyway I'm fine with waiting.

Bethesda just fucked up this could only go bad, I don't even know what the fuck they were thinking and Total Biscuits a fucking moron for defending it KEK! I hope he enjoys how outright wrong he was. Stupid fuck.

Total Asscancer probably forgot that he supported paid mods. He's too busy defending Antifa and calling people transphobic for asking if traps are gay.

>>>/cuckchan/

Can I get a source on that vampire loli?

I want to breed his wife and make him take care of the child.

fitting

Why would I kill myself over idiots? You just need to laugh more.

OP thinks we're from Neogaf KEK!

What's wrong with the Creation Club, guys?

There's a difference here though. Most of those faggots bought the game for the multiplayer, something they can't have with pirated versions (Hamachi is too high tech for them)

Fallout 4 being a singleplayer game means that you can just pirate it and get everything with less bloat or problems for free.
I'm guessing this platform is their attempt at twarthing piracy by giving an incentive for people to buy things, much like Steam Workshop.
Thing is, Steam Workshop is free, that's why it works in terms of counting as an asset. Yet another way to buy DLC doesn't.

I'm actually interested in seeing how this progresses because of there's one thing I've learned about modding Bethesda games is that there's always [Game] Script Extender and an animation framework like FNIS tied to it, without which there can be no serious modding. Everthing else is just recolors or very basic tweaks.
But once someone makes a modding framework like Script Extender, I want to see the train wreck that ensues once they try to compute how to pay for that "mod".

We're back at the "how to enforce intellectual property" again, only now it's to a second degree.

What's wrong is that those faggots are gonna be used to crank out cheap DLC for pocket change, content that Bethesda wants to see made, not what they feel like doing.
What's wrong is that they are gonna have to sign a NDA to do any of that and once they find out how badly shafter they are, they won't even be able to talk about it.

Steam with it's paid mods only gave 1/4 of revenue to the modder, and only if they made a minimum of 100$ for themselves, which means having to sell at least 400$ every month. Not to mention that progress from one month doesn't carry from one month to another. If your mod made 300$ in the first month and 200$ in the second, you get 0$ in both months while Steam and Bethesda splot the 500$ you made.

Compare that to Greenlight and other games where Steam merely takes 30% of revenue and you get to keep everything else inconditionally.

All the release content is shit they showed back in E3, they couldn't even bother to make new shit between then and now.

Still, it's all pretty gay tbh.

Actually you're wrong, they stole shit from Nexus between then and now.

The only thing not shown in that embarrassing video was the Prey suit

nuh uh dream boy, because even when bethesda allows modding, everything you create is THEIR property from the start, so it's literally not stealing, but closer to slave labor/ghostwriting.

you didn't read the (((Contract))) goiym. We own you!

fix'd

Cat argue with those digits.

Maybe they were expecting modders to have pumped something out by now.
Maybe modders had a change of heart once they saw the contracts and they haven't produced anything but they can't talk about it because NDA?
It would be pretty funny to see that shitshow go months on end with no content whatsoever in it.

Remember when they tried to make mods for consoles and people ended up just stealing and spamming modders for shit? That was fun.

Dude paid mods LMAO

I honestly see Bethesda going to war with all the modders that won't bend knee via lawsuits and such if anything to scare people into submission, though this will just lead to people refusing to mod or share their mods.

They could have made some money out of it, making features modders can't make and showing up some lore. But it's just cosmetics. Is this the CSGO effect? It's that the market they want to tap in, the redarded gamers that spend thousands of dollars over skins? I'm cool with that.

I called it at E3 this would happen, its totally going to happen. Do any of you guys trust Hines and Altman to sit there knowing they could quite easily pull the exact same bullshit they pulled with Prey 2 and Fallout Online here.. They so going to fuck these people. I feel bad for em but at the same time this is what you fucking idiots get for working for the (((Jews))).

wow 5$ to get a single in-game weapon

this is beyond scam

you'll want to get ready to make a new video of this, people are hitting the steam reviews harder than they ever had in the past. The explosion is going to be epic! see you in 24 hours hahah. Overwhelmingly Negative here we come!

Holy shit, can they even get more blatant in how much they want shekels?

Look at the good side, all these modders will finally start making content for good games like Bannerlord. This is the best thing that could happen.

If it ever fucking gets released.
That said a good sex mod for Bannerlord would be fucking amazing. I felt that was missing from Warband LESS TALKING MORE RAPING!

Yeah, go around the countryside capturing waifus like Pokemon and then rape them silly. Rance mod when?

Why? Even after losing that weight, she's still a hyper-average frump. Also losing 150 pounds in a year means she probably had surgery instead of making meaningful and healthy life choices, so she'll probably balloon back up.

Not sure if sarcastic or retarded

Look up Mantis-X and Iwara on your search engine of choice.

Obviously a reference to Skyrim, winner of the test of time award.

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Yes, we know the '$' it means missing strings, but it's still chortle-worthy.

Daily reminder that this was Pete Hines' idea, not mine. I am actually against the Creation Club and didn't want to present it during last E3 for this reason.

Toddler apologists actually believe that.

Thank you based user

A wise decision, Todd-sama. Like Lord Vivec himself, you maneuver around situations that would otherwise harm your reputation. Todd truly is Godd like the wise Redditors said!

There are reports on Nexus how stolen mods are uploaded for dodos on creation Club!

X-03 Power armor for example… You can get it super free on Nexus, but a hack draining the fools on CC…

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No problem. Take a look around the videos; most of them are just basic dance videos, but some really kinky shit shows up on occasion Look for YunaTBM

They already stole a mod for far harbour so

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This is going to be popular with console fags, isn't it?

Fuck i hate this industry.

It's been well known that the cancer has spread to his brain in the last twelve months.

It seems people already making overviews of mods that shown up.

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Not really.

holy fucking shit are they lazy

Do you guys think that Betheseda will approach the Cascadia and 3/New Vegas teams about releasing their mods through Creation Club rather than for free?

I think the best mods are black power armor recolor and pip boy recolor.
For those bethesda needs another GOTY award.

But of course the creation club means they can deliver higher quality content than a normal modder right?

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I had a couple of friends call me cynical and overly exaggerated when I said this fucking bullshit would return, especially when the official post stated that they "saw potential" in the paid mods feature. Lo and behold, they bring it back like nothing happened and now have you buy funcreditz on top of the shitpile.

Where were you when mod piracy became a thing and thrived?

You can literally get all of those mods or basically the same mods for free on nexus, so the only ones affected are ps4 users.

Just like they deliver high quality games.

During the hayday of the paid mods shit on steam, torrents for the paid mods appeared. I know that there are sites chockfull of free mods, but that's not the issue here, the problem lies in the potential to take great mods and put them behind a paywall, so even if there are free sites, who's to say that these companies wouldn't attempt to take the best ones and commodify them? Who's to say that these "creation clubs" aren't going to infect other games/devs?

Wait a second, that's just the standard armor.

PAID MODS

Interesting fact - the shotgun mod is added in leveled lists, but in case of fallout 4 you have to update leveled lists to match all the mods changing them installed, or else mods start replace each other. That's not even talking about id bug they had that had to be fixed with additional mods if there's too much custom content.
This is going to blow hard when people start buying more mods than this game can handle by its own.

No user, that's new "paint job", watch the video:

This will kill the Bethesda modding community, make no mistake. Bethesda's next goal now is to eliminate the competition, which means they'll be targeting the Nexus next and trying to strongarm them into dropping their support for FO4, and likely other Bethesda games. Even if that doesn't happen we can kiss collaboration between modders goodbye, because that is what always happens when money enters a community.

Still, this is how TES and FO die, and I can't imagine a more poetic death than this.

Maybe ironic since marketing was what made skyrim so successful, but not poetic.

Really? That's just naive. They need a reality check. Pretty sure Todd approved the paid mods from long ago.
Though I agree that it's a pleasant thought. Imagine Bethesda's stud saying despite all odds that the Creation Club is shit. It will never happen, but "I want to believe", etc.

Oh jeez. The only good reason they could push for Creation Club was solving leveled lists.

I swear to god these armors already looked "Onyx". Especially the APA.

You wanna know something people would buy? Pristine Power Armors.

Poetic because said modders will move to better games and use their autism for good.

There are scripts that adds loot to leveled lists without requiring updated lists. But it adds another layer of problem, the savegame tends to bloat insanely high when there's too many scripts running. In fact, this savegame bloat problem happens since Oblivion, if I'm not mistaken.

That much was clear, even during its initial implementation, there was a tremendous shitstorm among the modding community precisely because of the money. Many modders took the bait and immediately became self-righteous people full of indignation because "how dare you deprive me of wanting to make money off of this??? you should thank that I made mods for you in the first place now gib moni pls or fuck yourself!!!"

After the debacle, at the point where valve pulled the plug, those modders were heavily ostracized by the community at large, being seen as traitors due to their showing of their true colors, but the damage was pretty much done, a community divided and morale low because of the shitshow. It's true that this will kill the community, but I think it was already in the process of doing so since the first paid mods iteration.

Since Morrowind. If you play for too long your save gets corrupted and you can't continue anymore. It's kind of impressive how they still can't fix such blatant bugs in their games ever since Morrowind.

I don't really much care. Bethesda makes shit games and all modders have been doing for years now is being their free QA department and polishing their turds. I imagine things will only get worse when TES VI is announced and they show they're using a new engine. I'll actually laugh if they don't use a new engine.

Mark my words faggots!
The next TES-Fallout game's CK will be released as a paid DLC. Since making mods will be sabotaged by Bethesda in every possible mean, Nexus and Loverslab will meet it's end.
This very moment we witness is the last dance of the modders!
THE END IS NIGH!

If you actually understood this new system and weren't a retarded man child you'd realize that the creation club is actually not that bad. These arent paid mods, they're 3rd party developed dlc with high quality standards.

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I notice they don't show the overall statistics of popularity.

How's weather in Tel-Aviv, Chaim?

Right now its currently at mixed in recent reviews and mostly positive in overall reviews. I find that hard to believe.

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Gee I wonder why?

The madmen, they have actually done it.

Yes
YES

Sucks that Skyrim orcs are just humans painted green with fangs though. I dream of the day a game delivers strong fat orcs.

Go ahead, tell me why this is a bad system. Tell me why paying 3rd party vetted modders to make high quality, dlc-style content for a game that still has thousands of people playing it and craving for new things to do in it, is bad. You can't but I welcome the attempt.

Here's your reply motherfucker

You can throw all the reaction images that you want at me, it doesn't make you any less wrong or your brain cells any more populous.

Go away todd, I've already used all my todd images.

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Thats just what I expected, not even an attempt because you already know that you have no actual arguments.

But you never presented an argument yourself.

(YOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUU)

You don't argue with the mentally deficient, champ; you laugh at them until they wear themselves out from crying and then tuck them in for a nap.

I summarized the system and how it works, it's on you to explain why its bad. Innocent until proven guilty motherfucker.

You and I both know thats just a stupid joke you dingus, dont play dumb. Everything else is very well done or available somewhere else for free.

What a waste of nice dubs.

No you didn't. All you said was x will happen because of y, but you never actually provided any argument why x will happen.

Are you illiterate? I explained as much as I needed to which is the summary of the system for all you retards that cant take the time to actually read about it on your own. It's not my job to make you any less autistic or irrational, that's on you.

These are your posts. Nowhere does it explain anything. All it says is you already explained it. Which is not surprisingly the content of your post now.

Like I said, you're illiterate. Bethesda presented their case by unveiling the creation club, they already gave all the facts and i'm not going to explain it in depth to you lazy bastards. Now its your turn.

How to spot someone who haven't played TF2 or EVE.

Paying modders is not the cause. Explain how the creation club will help create high quality mods, and help the modding community since the modding community already hates it.

No amount of vetting changes the fact that Bethesda's attempts at leeching off modders does nothing but hurt the modding community.

At least you're helping keep this thread near the top. More anons need to be aware of the kikery.

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Obviously by paying them and by working with them more closely. The mods will be better integrated into the game as a result of working with bethesda directly and the quality will be raised simply because they can now afford more time to work on it and are also required to meet quality standards in order for it to be released.

Also these shouldn't even be considered mods but actually as outsourced dlc.

The general public hates it because they dont know what it is and are scared of change. I haven't heard opinions from actual members of the modding community. This should be considered as completely separate from modding anyway as the content is no longer even a mod. The only thing that connects the two are the modders that are being invited into the creation club. Those modders can still make mods as well as the creation club content. The modding community will survive and do fine so long as people keep making mods, its as simple as that. In fact I believe it would even encourage more people to make mods in hopes of being able to turn it into an actual source of income if they get scouted.

So, are they outright mocking us with that horse armour?

It's probably a case of

Oh because bethesda is so good at making games. No.
Now you're just making assumptions
Then you admit to being uninformed about the topic?

See

Steam Greenlight is user driven, Steam does not moderate the content that gets released through it. The Creation Club IS moderated by Bethesda.

Added him. If he's worth the two shits he spewed in that comment, except some kinda video, I dunno.

I'm not defending the quality of Bethesda's games, if you dont like them dont play them. The point is that the content created by these modders in the club will need to meet the standards of the vanilla game or the standards of the in-house created dlc as a minimum.
Its not much of an assumption when all the complaints I see are just people whining about paid mods when this clearly is not paid mods.
More informed than you. If you want to enlighten me about the modder opinion on this then show me some actual evidence of it.

You didn't even comment on the bulk of my argument.

But you just said in a previous post you had not seen any comments.

Of modders. Ive seen plenty of comments from the average inbred steam user and you retards and its all the same.

Bethesda owns their own sort of currency now. If anything the "points" system is even worse than outright PAYING for the mod, because there's always a chance of there being leftover currency that you'll likely never used.

Wasted money. You're a fucking retard, put a gun in your mouth and pull the trigger.

That's a very poor assumption to make of an entire community. It seems all you do is make assumptions. How would you know they are not modders themselves? Did you check?

No, he's right, this is mocking, they are evil.

MC ride has ascended beyond a mere nigger, he is soon becoming a proto-jakub

That is a very small and insignificant concern all things considered. Not that it isnt shitty. If you want to actually construct an arguement that is worth something other than minor nitpicking than you can refer to these posts >>13319103

I get it, you cant prove me wrong so instead you just want to try and derail me. Here's your last reply.

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I just wanted you to explain how you felt this shit would work, but it's okay you can leave whenever you like.

not sure if shilling or actually fucking retarded.
Kys nigger.

Holy fuck could you be more normalfag

My main argument wasn't that the "points" system made it worse but it still does but that it still qualifies as "paid mods".

You fucking retard.

someone post the fullchan steam group pic

Man, Fallout 4 is so awful you don't even need paid mods to ruin it. It's just skinner box and a big empty space to skinner box in, and that's it. Everything about it in look and feel is sterile, grey and devoid of love.

Theres nothing saying that the club content cant be wildly different from the vanilla games content. And you can still have your moonman mods.

The idea is that the modders will need to at least meet the quality of the in-house dlc. Everything about this is just conjecture until there are more things released through the system.

Mods are generally pretty alien feeling from the rest of the game unless they're done well and they tend to be very buggy and incompatible with other mods. The in-house dlc all feel like parts of the game that are actual extensions of it rather than just being slapped on like the average mod. Thats the goal of the creation club.

Now there's an assumption.

More content for people that want it. Thats the only benefit there needs to be faggot, its the same benefit youd get from regular dlc.

Its not paid mods.

It benefits the people the still play these games and want more quality content for them.

Pure conjecture

But it's not paid mods, it's outsourced dlc. Mods are still free, these are not mods.

Stop it, you disgusting kike.

Are you getting paid by the post or are you seriously this retarded?

You know very well this is a lie.
Nowhere is this mentioned, and furthermore the quality of bethesda's dlc is terrible. That ruins the entire point.
You mean like bethesda games?
Actually if you watched the video, that's exactly what we saw.
But you are paying for them, just with bethesda's currency which you must pay for.

The only one sucking cock here is you user, the cock of ignorance.

Nice job Bethesda.

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I'm sure than insult sounded great it Hindi.

Hey guys, I heard you like re-skins, so we re-skinned Skyrim's paid mods to sell re-skins for FO4!

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Joking about your failure in the past can be funny.
It is pretty hypocritical if you then do exactly the same thing.
However it takes a truly high level of incompetence or just not caring at all to have your joke both refer to your failure in the past but also make exactly the same failure.

In this case, I am sure its not caring. Making this shit probably only costs about a 100-300 dollars at most. If just 100 people buy it, you are making profit. There are more than 100 suckers in the world.

Well duh.

Did they steal the dodo mod?

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Alright, update on this cuck.

He sent me a PM, tried to Call me on Steam, but I don't have a mic so it didn't work.
imgur.com/j8bhngR
That's a picture of the guy, he said his name is "BRAINFLUSH"
>Google me bitch didn't find anything
He asked me where I lived and said he'll take a plane flight and kill me in front of my family or some dumb shit I don't know.

Again, here's his Steam profile if you wanna get some kek's outta him. Maybe if you have a mic, you'll have more fun than I had.
steamcommunity.com/id/BrainFlush

Alright, update on this cuck.

He sent me a PM, tried to Call me on Steam, but I don't have a mic so it didn't work.
imgur.com/j8bhngR
That's a picture of the guy, he said his name is "BRAINFLUSH"
>Google me bitch didn't find anything
He asked me where I lived and said he'll take a plane flight and kill me in front of my family or some dumb shit I don't know.

Again, here's his Steam profile if you wanna get some kek's outta him. Maybe if you have a mic, you'll have more fun than I had.
steamcommunity.com/id/BrainFlush

"hey we were really jewish in the past and released horse armour as DLC, what can we do to show people that it's a different system?"

"release horse armour."

This is what it looked like before the roman empire fell.

Sorry, the site is acting up again.

Every game will be doing this in about six months time and the only way you can stop it is to exterminate the jews. If you think I'm kidding, I'm not.

Oh, and the guy is apparently a vegan. :^)

So it's just like vidya as a whole today?

People have surgery and lose very little because they're stupid, it is literally physically impossible to lose 150lbs in a year without massive diet change, surgery or not.

She still looks pretty bad though, not hideous, but man that chin.

Listen, when the creation club has mods like Interesting NPCs, The Forgotten City or fucking Darkend, call me. I seriously doubt we're going to be seeing anything on the CC of any real substance because nobody is going to put hundreds of hours into a project only to put it behind a paywall for literal pennies.

Donations are a thing and many modders do get a lot of change thrown their way for mods, nobody is going to fucking earn a living off this shit and anyone who has the passion to create a near-professional project is a hobbyist who wouldn't want to put it behind a paywall.

Not to mention that paid mods actively discourages integrating other mods or expanding upon them.

Or the fact that all this promotes is stupid 1 and done item adds like horse armor.

Anyone think it would be funny to just 'copy' all the TF2 hats to Skyrim for a few cents each just to make a point?

wat

You missed the part where he said mods look out of place and are buggy 'unless they're well made'

Of course, this is ignoring that there are literally in excess of a thousand mods for something like Skyrim that seamlessly fit into vanilla

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I can't read a defense for this shit, ironic or unironic, without laughing. It's just that absurd.

yes, see what happens

hnnngh

Reminded of encyclopediadramatica . rs/Vegan_Gains . What is it with vegans and being mentally unstable? Is there some nutrient one gets from animal protein that prevents one from going batshit?

Estrogen.
disqus.com/by/BrainFlushed/
You can tell he's trying really hard to be masculine, but his body's probably so pumped up with Soy Products(tm) that he can't even grow the proper balls to act like a man instead of some half-bred nigger from Arizona.

Honestly, I'd rather the internet be full of people like him as opposed to skinny jean metrosexual hipsters, but if you're gonna be a Chad, you can't be autistic about it.

Would be 10x better, at this point

Somebody's probably said this itt or somewhere else already, but whatever, typing this will be cathartic.

It doesn't matter how ethical or perfect or whatever a paid mods system is, I'm not going to buy a Bethesda game with paid mods because the $60 price tag is only justified with the promise of mods. Just the game on its own isn't worth $60, and the game with mods isn't worth more than $60 dollars. If the total cost of game+mods isn't at least a $60 value for a price of $60 dollars or less, I'm not going to buy the game. Maybe if the games costed less, or maybe if they were actually finished and not buggy pieces of crap, then I at least wouldn't hate it so viscerally; maybe I'd even be open to some kind of sponsored content program, but they aren't either of those, so fuck this.

Furthermore, I have a problem with them opening the floodgates to other companies to do the same thing, because it will do the same thing to other mediocre games that are mainly just a mod platform.

why live?

shame the newest Mare Holic hasn't been scanned

Apparently all the creation club files are downloaded with the patch, and you're just paying to unlock it in game. Top tier quality work as usual from Bethesda.

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So did you give him a fake address?

Nah, he asked me which state I live in, I told him, he said he'll fly over there. He actually posted the full conversation log on his profile if you want to read it.

I chuckled. If he kills you, know that I may remember you fondly for about a week before I forget and may consider sharing your story in hopes that someone may avenge you if worst comes to worst. But if you end up killing him, please post pics.

SO how long before this thing dies a horrible fiery death?
I give it a year tops.

6/10, gave me a chuckle.

I fear this shit won't go away. Bethesda wants to make money as easily as possible without actually having to put effort into anything. I always dreamed of the day DLCs would stop being cut content to be sold later, but now we're getting something far worse. Also

FUCKING HORSE ARMOR IS ONE OF THEIR BIG LAUNCH ITEMS? WTF IS WRONG WITH THESE ASSHOLES?!

They're trying to take the joke that horse armor is and turn it around but that requires a level of self awareness that they're incapable of, like an aspie thinking a meem is just a fucking image macro, completely missing the point.

It will either die starved to death in a year, or it will survive by becoming shit ocean of babby first item/waifu/house, zero compliance, zero support, zero fucks.

He is absolutely being paid per post. It's blatant.

It's the gift that keeps on giving. Do you ever get tired of winning Holla Forums

They hate and openly mock their consumers, bragging about how tons and tons of people bought Horse Armor to the point where they doubled the price. The redditors and consolefags eat it up and take it all as generosity and love, even as Pete Hines openly spews bile at them on twitter and shows up at E3 instead of Todd.

Fallout dindu nuffin.

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Oh my fucking god really.. Have you seen Bethesda's quality standards?

Get Steam to ban his account for threatening you.

Left:
Right

Wasn't this a leaked DLC? Context really makes it amazing .

Must be hard for that "user" to see himself.

hhhnnngh

Yes it was leaked several days before release, or the day before can't remember.

Fallout as a series mirrors the video game industry perfectly.

Then

Now

Good times. Can't wait for when we over at Holla Forums do the same to Star Wars fags soon and ruin it for all the filthy normalfags… If we can fucking take a break from shitposting for one damn day

JUST

Anyone has the webm of the fallout shills threads getting bombed to hell with porn while Sound of Silence plays?

When I was working as a clerk at a store a week before nuwars: the farce awakens, every time someone came to my register I would just say that han solo died during the new star wars film.

The shop I worked at I said Battlefront was going to be a BadGameTM and all the staff lost their shit at me.

Who's laughing now faggots!

It's dead user. If you remember the post quality a few years ago, and compare it to now, it's evident that Holla Forums is 4cuck now.

I have hope that whenever there is a starwars movie, that thread will have quality discussion if only to shit on it.

we're all 4cuck now

DON'T MIND IF I DO!

Sounds like a fair trade off to me mate.

TES was a mistake.

Dunkagood

I remember spending months playing nothing but mwind back when I first got it. Collecting daedric artifacts and playing with alchemy and magic are honestly more fun than completing the quests fam.

Go away trainwiz nobody likes you.

It really was

Well you wanna know something pal?! I don't like myself either…

That's what you get for becoming a modder. You're infected now.

Aw fuck its trainwiz again.

Shouldn't have become a sellout whore.

On the other hand though, nobody wanted this.

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kill yourself, pleb

You know I'm right.

If you want ammo for faggots saying that "Creation club supports modders" its been confirmed that half of the Creation Club was made by BGS themselves and not modders. So in actuality it isn't supporting modders as Bethesda themselves are making the majority of the content you're seeing (probably because most modders were smart enough not to fall for this shit!)

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Modders sell the mod to Bethesda for a flat price. How exactly is this supporting modders when it is Bethesda that is getting the whole $5?

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I think Bethesda has that one covered.

There there trainwiz, at least you are not Anthony Burch.

GET BULLIED FAGGOT

Let me guess
You signed to an NDA before signing the actual contract and now you can't talk about what terms you are\were under.
You wanted to make amazing content with tools not available with just the CK but found out that's all you were gonna get.
You were full of ideas for quests, stories, and gameplay mechanics, but you were told to shut up and do whatever content they asked you to do.
You thought that you could at least make some cash out of this, but you only get a very small percentage of the returns and only if you meet some condition like making a minimum of cash every month, so in the end you're not even being paid but it's all legal because you agreed with it on your contract.

You were dissatisfied with all of this, gave up and "fired" yourself. Now you want to tell people about what the contract terms really were but you can't, which frustrates you. And on top of it, you're second-guessing yourself and considering that maybe it didn't paid that much but you probably should have sticked with it to hold true to your principles and to still make some cash.

You know you're anonymous, they can't prove who you are and you could just dump every bit of info here.
Every story posted here is fake and only autists beleive them anyway, right? :^)

k i n o filters to good.

It's an improvement.

Sorry guys but according to Bethesda© you are wrong.

full pic?

You mean Bethesda's "Game of Thrones: the video game"

This is the only hint i can give, but be wary, searching this will cost you your dignity.

While I am obviously a good goy here, I think they are kind of right. Know that I am very much against copyright, which, if finally people see the light and abolish it, would solve all these problems forever. But I don't really see the problem with having a way to buy "tested" mods. If they can guarantee that anything sold there will work perfectly with everything else, they are providing a service that normal mods don't provide, and they may as well earn money from that. I would argue that for the things they have shown, the price of the service is far larger than what it should be and the quality of the things that are on it are shit. But this is not the exact same as paid mods. Of course this is bethesda, so the ultimate goal of this is likely to replace free mods with paid only mods. But I think right now, this is more about bringing modding to the consoles.

If you really want to solve this shit forever, and many, many more awful business practices, abolish copyright. Copyright is not a good thing. It has a proven track record of being of no benefit to anybody but those that abuse it.

Copyright is only a problem because they make it a problem, if studios were given incentive to release their games as GPL like IDSoftware used to do then it'd be amazing for everyone.

We handed the industry over to the (((Jew)))

nope
nope
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HA got i-
eyup….
at least it was a fun, doable little puzzle.

Nice non-answer. Nobody argued that you have to pay to create mods, this doesn't answer if you have to pay for them, so it's still paids mods.

2 sentences in and they are already lying, seeing some of the mods they flaunt were taken directly from Nexus.

So it's DLC, then.
So it's DLC you outsourced because you're too incompetent to do appealing DLC yourself.

So it takes a fuck load of time to get whatever content you made approved, and in the end, it might not be uploaded if the company doesn't like it.

So you want to mitigate the problems with load orders and incompatibilities, without saying what tools are gonna enable this. And it seems it's not even effective unless external tools are used anywya.

So modders now are the burger flippers that do a part time job to make the main company richer, instead of being hired for the kitchen to become actual chefs.

The thing is, a lot of people use a very large amount of mods, the average minimum goes by 50 while some reach 150-200.
If you only had to pay 1$ for each mod, you'd spend more in modding than in the base game. And this isn't even considering things that are just bug fixes or QoL patches that aren't really worth any money but now they have to pay for.

It would be one thing to hire modders to create a large scale DLC, with an entire quest chain, a new land to explore, and new items\characters there.
It would even be better to hire them so you could get new gameplay mechanics working and making a complete overhaul.
But outsourcing your job by piece meal will never work.

Honestly I am kinda pissed at this in the same way Creation Club doesn't have quest mods.
Quest mods were only good content in Skyrim. 90% of shitty ones are still better than anything Bethesda made. Stuff like Forgotten City or Cube Experimental made it worth to play Bethshit games.

Nah, copyright is a problem because its wrong. Copyright is granting a monopoly to somebody to produce a certain work. While this may be seen as an incentive, it barely ever is. The worst is of course how long it last. What is it now, 120 years for corporate works or 95 years after the author died or some shit? Thats not an incentive. No company out there produces anything because it can give a return on investment within 120 years. Nobody makes anything because 95 years after their death, some family member will still get money from it. If a company makes something because it will be paid off 5 years down the line, thats already a pretty long term strategy, especially for those things that are often copyrighted.

Without copyright, keeping games alive would be easier, because even after the original company abandoned it, somebody else might be able to make a living from keeping everything working.
Copyright is the thing making a game not sell in your region because its not worth it.
Its the thing keeping rational prices away.

There is no evidence that copyright is in any way beneficial. There is much evidence against it. The same is true for patents. Patents do not encourage new discoveries, and they never have. Even the first famous patents, like the steam engine of James Watt, were counter productive. Steam engines were improving at a steady phase, until Watt got his patent, at which point all improvements stopped for 20 or so years because nobody could build upon that improvement.
An industry without intellectual property rights works. And it is way more dynamic and improves way more than one with intellectual property rights. The only good intellectual property is trademarks. Because that one is about protecting the consumer as well as the producer. Not just the producer.

It's an incentive to making something new. Without copyright, nobody would try to create something new for the most part when they can just copy another IP and make their own iteration of it, having the previous fanbase\clients already interested in it.
Without copyright, you wouldn't have Sonic or Crash Bandicoot. They'd be Super Mario only since that was what sold.

You can argue about clones and how similar they tend to be, but they are still not the same thing and don't have the same pull the original work had. You're better off trying to come up with a new idea that might sell instead of risking a lawysuit or making something that's just not quite that thing that the fans won't much enjoy.

It's basic economics, if a company has to pay both to produce but also to create a new idea while another company only has to pay for production, the second company gets ahead, incentivizing a culture of vultures, waiting for someone to come up with a new idea they can copy.

The real problem with copyright is how it's mis-used, with people getting patents on small sequences of notes and earning a lot of cash from full songs "because it incorporates some of it", or holding to an IP without ever doing anything with it.
Those are issues that should be solved, but not a reason to completely abolish the idea and end up FAR worse than we are today.
The last thing we need is for every videogame to be a Sonic recolor OC Donut Steel.

American Copyright is a problem, everywhere else doesn't have the same problems. In my country we get automatic Copyright on our work, its so that if you're working in this country and someone blatantly steals your work you have artistic claims on the work. Its a good thing is some cases but most corporations just use it to bully people.

Also funny how you make a point about Trademarks being good despite how many times companies like Bethesda have used to to bully smaller developers and modders because of trademark infringement. I think you're wrong and a blatant libertarian. Next you'll be telling me paying taxes is stealing.

I'd be happier in an industry where there wasn't 1000 versions of the same named game with the majority being asset flips thanks. Under what you're suggesting games like Limbo of the Lost would be the norm and perfectly legal.

This also means they won't feature any kind of complex mods, because those will inevitably not play nice together. Basically, this whole farce is a glorified hat shop for PS4 peasants.

Both of you seem to think that any product can just be copied right away. This is not the case.
Most products require skill and a lot of work to make a copy which is as good as the original. Take your average game. It has DRM and an online service run by the producer of the game. So in the first 2 weeks that the product becomes available, anybody looking to make a copy and sell that instead will have to spend time breaking the DRM and emulating the online service somehow. Any game sold at a reasonable price will have most of its customers already in those two weeks. So anybody after that will either be fighting over the leftover scraps (people unwilling to pay much for the game, so low profit margins) or will have to do something a lot better than the original publisher. For example if the online service got shut down and some other company worked to restore it, now they can actually demand a premium instead of hoping to get a few cents on every sale. And copying remains hard. Bug fixes for the game? Well, you got to make sure the patch works with the stuff you copy and so on. There are a lot of incentives for anybody to buy from the original source or anybody that has a good deal with the original source. It also means that the publisher will have to put some more effort into their game. If you just release and don't care about the game, soon enough the copies around will be good enough and cheaper and you will provide nothing better than those copies. Also remember that anybody fighting over the scraps will have a lot of competition. Imagine you broke the DRM on a game and now start selling it. It is exactly as good as the original copy. Now either you have to add DRM or somebody else can just take your game and sell it for even lower because they actually didn't have to put in much effort at all.
There are only 3 options to do well in this environment.
-Be the first to the market and get the premium price because it takes time to be copied.
-Be a bottom feeder and be in a race to the bottom price with many, many others.
-Provide improvements over the original game (better online service, no DRM, …, many of which the original producer can easily replicate and improve upon).

Copying is not easy.

We can look at real world examples. Just in the last year or so, vanilla wow private servers MAY have finally gotten to the same quality as the vanilla wow servers were in the past. Thats about 13 years until the vanilla servers may be preferable. And even now, if Blizzard would release a vanilla server, most private servers would lose out on anybody willing to pay. Which is not good for business.
This is how hard copying a very popular game that a lot of people want is. And it is how easy it is for the original producer to take back the entire market, even if it long abandoned it.

Another example in recent history, outside of the game market, is a european union research. They wanted to determine if copyright was good or not. So they set out to compare the US database industry with the EU database industry (database being for example a list of books or the weather per city or whatever, not a possible program like SQL server). In the US, databases cannot be copyrighted because they are seen as a statement of facts, in the EU, they can be copyrighted. In the research that the EU did, it was found that the US database industry is both larger and faster growing than the EU one, despite not being "protected". The actual reason that the EU still keeps copyright protection for databases is that when they interviewed the EU database industry, they pretty much said that more competition would be annoying for them. As in, that was literally their only argument against removing copyright of databases.

There are plenty more examples of intellectual property failing and absence of it being successful.

Trademarks are good. Even if they are sometimes abused.

Trademarks are good for both the consumer as well as the company.
For example, you believe that Nike makes good running shoes. It is to your benefit if a second company can't just come in and produce running shoes and have the same logo on it, because now you can't judge the quality of "Nike" shoes based on previous shoes. For the company, it means they can build a brand. For example be known as the cheapest or the best quality. In the case of fan projects, they do have to stop these, and I mean HAVE to, legally. Just from a normal stand point, what if fan projects did not have to care about trademarks? Now you may have a very hard time knowing if a fan mission DLC is made by the original producers or just fans. If the quality is bad, you may think that the company sucks while it doesn't.

Importantly, trademarks HAVE to be protected. This is very good. A company can't first let people steal their trademark and then later if its finally worth something come in and steal all the hard work. They have to actively protect their trademark. This is not true for copyright. A company cannot lose their copyright over anything.

Do trademarks benefit you? Yes.
Does copyright benefit you? Well, are you one of the very large companies which still gets money from something created 50+ years ago? If not, no it does not. It most likely harms you in many ways.

You are also stupid to believe that an industry without copyright would be the exact same as the current industry, just no copyright. Stores would for example chose to offer the original product rather than 1000 knockoffs. Unless the store does not care about quality, in which case, you are unlikely to go to that store if you want quality. Steam might get flooded with thousands of copies of some product, all of varying quality and price, but that would just mean that steam would have to put a lot more effort into making good filters to show you the products you actually wish to see. Who cares if there are literally a million copies of some asset pack, if you never see them unless you are specifically looking for them?

I'm gonna do something I probably shouldn't do and assume you're a communist because you're talking about this like we're discussing a physical product.

You don't copy the product, you copy the idea. You don't have to use the same software or tools to draw a character just like the other company, you just have to draw the same character, not unlike tracing.
You don't have to copy the code you stole from the other company, you only have to play the game and copy the gameplay in it.

This is why so many games look similar within their own genre. Because one game comes up with a neat idea and everyone else is free to just copy it as well.
Some fighter introduces the concept of a super meter for special attacks, every other fighter will copy their idea and include a meter as well.
Someone makes an RTS with the economy working in specific ways, every other person will copy them and make the same game, just by copying the mechanics.

Thanks to copyright, they can't outright do a blatant copy of the entire product and as such 2 fighters can have a super meter, but they can't have the exact same characters using it in the same way, just like RTS games can have the economy working in the exact same way, but they can't feature the same factions and units.

Without copyright, there would be 2000 versions of Street Fighter, all done by different people, all having Ryo throwing hadokens and charging a bar for his special.
It's thanks to copyright that instead of that shit you get Guilty Gear, Tekken and Skull Girls, who copy the idea behind it but are forced to come up with something new to distinguish themselves.

That's fucking stupid. It's not copyright that does that, but the market. Why would anyone make a street fighter clone if, like you said, there were already 2000 versions out there? Nobody would put money into it and expect to make any money in return because the market would be super saturated.

For the same reason that the fans buy Street Fighter, Street Fighter Turbo, Super Street Fighter and Super Street Fighter Turbo.
For the same reason that you can find CoD clones everywhere and yet CoD is the success, it is every day.
For the exact same reason that Madden and FIFA sell so many copies every year.
Because players are invested in a brand they know, it's a familiar product and it doesn't require as much time to adapt from one to another.

Using the same example, someone going from Street Fighter 4 to Street Fighter 5 will find a lot of similar characters they already know and are invested in with many similar mechanics they have already mastered. Going from SF4 to Guilty Gear would be a completely alienating experience that's really not appealing.

They would if they believed they could market their own iteraction better than the competition since they'd be selling the same product anyway.
You gotta take those disadvantages into consideration, about bigger corps eating the ideas of smaller ones.
Imagine if Microsoft, instead of buying Minecraft after so long had a small team of engineers copying Notch's idea back when it was still just a niche beta? The guy would have never made the fortune he got since Minecraft could make the same game but looking better and with more marketing.

This is why you protect intellectual property because it's bloody easy to steal knowledge or creative ideas, but it's really hard to come up with them in the first place.
Even feudal societies knew this very well, which is why Guilds had their trade secrets locked away and even killed deserters that threatened to reveal how they did something.

But you can copy the product. It is not a problem for any good product.

There is no problem with taking a direct copy. It will mean that companies have to provide better service for their games.

There is literally no problem with having 2000 streetfighter games. Even if all of them were EXACT copies of the other. I am not even talking reproductions, I am talking copied exactly as is. You would decide to get the copy from a service which keeps it up to date, which provides good online, which has other players. And almost all of the time, especially when the game is just released, this will be from a service which works together with the original publisher. You will also pay a fair price for the game if you want to get it right away.

You can look at game of thrones. As it is a product which is very easy to copy, it started having some interesting problems with its only competitor, piracy. Whenever a new episode is released, many people would pirate it because it doesn't air right away in their country. So to stop that, they had to air it in other countries at the exact same time. So now, thanks to the competition of piracy, the original product improved for you if you are in another country. Now it is possible to watch a new episode at the exact same time it releases anywhere. No chance of getting spoilers if you really wish to watch it right away. It may not be at the most convenient time, but its possible. That is what a world without copyright can bring for everybody. Companies will be forced to give you a good service, because there will be a lot of competition. It will no longer be easy to shut down the previous game once your new one comes out. If the previous version is well liked, somebody else could earn a living by keeping that running.

To come back to the original point, 2000 copies of street fighter would not mean that you get no tekken. Who can make money on 2000 copies of street fighter? Only 3 groups.
-The ones that made it, because they can be the first to sell it and thus earn a good price on it.
-Anybody improving the product, for example if the online service was shut down, you would wish to get the game from somebody running their own online service.
-Perhaps 1 of the 1999 identical copies might make a few cents per sale, because there just isn't much to make if the only thing you do is sell the exact same product as 1999 other people, including the ones that made it and thus have an easy way to improve the product, making your copy obsolete.

So what is the better option as one of those 1999? Make another game like it, but not exactly the same. If its good, now you are the original producer, able to get a premium by being the first to the market and hopefully having the best possible service for your customers.

Look at medieval times. How much weapons and castles and the like improved over time. With only limited information sharing technology. There was no copyright. Anybody could copy the other persons concept and creation exactly as is. But you had to do more than that to not be a bottom feeder, you had to improve upon the previous guy all of the time to be at the top and earn the decent money. A world without copyright works, and goes faster and better than a world with copyright.

You do know all you're protecting with a trademark is a name/logo right? it doesn't mean anything. The only reason to have a trademark is to prevent someone trading under your name.

Copyright prevents the outright theft of work. What is the point of having a brand if the thing that brand is associated with can just be freely taken and modified, then that brand isn't associated with the product– which is the only reason to have a trademark because you want the brand associated with that quality product you made that only YOU make. That's the point of a brand.

Copyright prevents people just taking the idea and doing what ever they want with it. We're trying to say that if you eliminate copyright you end up with a flooded market and it also creates a lot of bad blood between creators, there have been many incidents where competing products have existed out of copyright infringement, take for example Skunny Kart vs Wacky Wheels where the game was wholesale stolen to produce an inferior version. Copyrights are not a bad thing its just an inherently bad companies do bad things with them.

Having to spend money defending your Trademark is just giving money to the (((Lawyers))) for doing essentially nothing. The point of a trademark is to make you instantly identifiable so that people can't defame you and use your brand in malice. But they aren't as important as copyright. So someone steals your Trademark.. Just rebrand.. Businesses do this all the time. But if someone took your copyright, good fucking luck. Copyrights are important. Trademarks not so much. If someone took my Trademark I'd just re-brand it again, it would be a minor inconvenience damn $300 down the drain, looks like I have to spend another $300 re-registering my trademark.

Also to all the people wondering what the fuck is going on in this thread, we'd rather discuss patient law over discussing Bethesda's bullshit considering we've established how fucking retarded this whole mess is. If anyone wants to get us back on track by all means.

The writing was great just the fucking buggy and broken empty messes of level design and layout of areas ruined it. Interesting and enjoyable concepts executed poorly.
I couldnt finish half the fucking mods because I would fall through holes in the floor, not trigger shit because i got unlucky or got unimmersed from the mod because of big empty rooms and repeating ugly textures

The Fo4 one for example had really nice characters and interesting quest concepts but ended up becoming a chore to finish in the end ontop of having to find my own way past stupid game/modbreaking bugs and ugly areas

Think about how it would work for a bigger corporation to just steal from a smaller one.
There are tons and tons of ideas and concepts and whatever made every day. You do not have the time to take all of them because honestly, most of them suck. So what do you do? You wait until one of them is successful and then steal it. But wait a minute? This means that no matter what, the small company already had its success. Because to steal it and have your steal be worth anything, you had to wait until it was successful. And even then, as I explained before, just copying would be pretty hard, because now you would either lag behind the original producer ALL of the time (you can't possibly bring out your patch before the original producer does, without actually infiltrating the company and stealing from it, which would still be illegal), or have to put a lot of effort into making your own exact copy and improve that over the original product.
And if that happens, guess what, thats good for you as the consumer, because now two companies have to put effort into having the best version of one game.

It is not bloody easy to steal knowledge of creative ideas. And it is nearly impossible to steal them before they are successful.

Yeah and that's called brand loyalty, which has nothing to do with copyright. People buy new games that are almost the same from the same company because it's made from a team they trust to deliver, not because there are no competitors on the market.

And the better versions would sell more because they'd be better. People would not want to spend money on the 1999 glitchy versions of a slightly modded game.

Some people would argue that Notch doesn't deserve that wealth. Anyway, if MS had made a better minecraft clone and stole his thunder, only Notch loses, but the consumer would benefit.

Of course, thats what I am talking about. It does mean a lot. If I have a car with a BMW logo on it, its almost certainly produced by the BMW company, which may mean, to me, if I trust that company, that its going to be a quality car. They are so much more important than copyright for any company wishing to exist longer than a year or so.

Once again, there is nothing wrong with a flooded market. Hell, its good even. Its good for you as the consumer, and while it does make the life of the producer harder (but not impossible, if its impossible nothing gets created, which would lead to more demand until at some point its worth producing the item again).

Lets say you are BMW, and somebody took your trademark, would you really just rebrand your fucking company? Hell fucking no. If somebody made the exact same car as you, but had a different badge on it, that would be way less bothersome.

Lets assume you like BMW cars, and I give you the choice between a BMW and a car looking exactly the same, from some brand you have never heard about. If they are at the same price, you would be stupid to not buy the BMW, because its from a big brand, it guarantees some form of quality, it probably means that in the future if there is a problem, the company won't be dead before your warranty runs out and so on. The other car would have to be substantially cheaper before you would take it. So if BMW then prices its car to a very fair profit margin, the other car cannot compete on the same quality of service and parts and what not. But at the same time, its a very good incentive for BMW to not overcharge you nor sell you a low quality product. Because if they do, next time you will go for the other product.

Even with straight up copies, it is nearly impossible to copy everything exactly from a big company, things like service and the like would be hard to copy if they provided a good one. And for big companies to steal from small ones, there are just too many shitty products that you have to wait until one is a success before you can steal it, at which point you are likely too late, because if the small company did well, they saturated the market as much as they could with their own product before you came in to copy.

And we talk about copyright because its the only real way to fix this problem. As long as companies get monopolies for 100s of years, you cannot fight this shit. Once they no longer get such monopoly, they will have to compete on things like service as well.

You get the point. In the microsoft example however, it is important to note that Notch almost certainly can't lose. Although he may not get to his extreme wealth, which he arguably doesn't really deserve, he would almost certainly be able to make a living on the game. This is because there is just no way for microsoft to steal this game before notch already made enough money on it. Microsoft can't know if minecraft will be selling well before it already sells well. And stealing bad ideas is not a winning strategy.

You got a lot of nerve to come back here after defending paid mods as good.

That loli vampire is named Rachel, I guess.

Nope. Mina, not Rachel. Still meh because anal.

I don't see this going anywhere. They do not want to commit to anything serious, like a "immersive gameplay" mod oops, dlc, that's not completely retarded and homemade. Who cares about 5$ guns and armor paints, honestly?

Look into who founded Zenimax and tell me the guy isn't connected well enough to let anything happen, "free market" be damned.

Hahahahah fuck off Todd.

the reason they did it is so Bethesda can justify first party micro-transactions and sneak it in under the guise of "Help Modders!". It was a total bait and switch because there aren't much in the way of 3rd party DLCs here and most of what is on offer is ripped directly from Nexus (which they said they WOULDN'T do but blatantly have done.) The more I looked into it the less it seems to be about mods hence why they kept selling it as "its not paid mods" no, its first party micro-transactions which frankly is even worse. GG Bethesda you're now to the normalfags on the same level as 2k and EA, well done.

TotalShitsblood Doubling Down.

This guy shits on his viewers so often I can't imagine anyone other than cuckolds actually watch him.

They have always been worse than either of them. Far as I know EA never deliberately fucked with a developer to force them into bankruptcy so they could steal their IPs.

As for the rest of what you said, they've pulled a monumentally stupid movie for next to no gain. This will kill the mod community that keeps their shit games relevant, and all people will be left with is broken, ugly piece of shit games and no one around to fix them.

When will Trump deport him back to the caliphate and let his wife breed with an actual male?

TotalShitsblood Doubling Down.>>13322844

I've always said this but normal fags tell me I'm over reacting.

What are you doing outside of Holla Forums moshe?

better question why the fuck was Holla Forums raiding Ubishit, that's Holla Forums's job. I think there's some overlap going on here.

I just wanted to play video games…

When is his death due?

They always knew it would be a hard sell to PC gamers. Their real target is console users who are trapped in a walled garden with no other recourse and ready for the assfucking. It's a pretty sly plan, too. Give Xbox One users "free" mods for a while, while also colluding with Sony to keep mods off of the Playstation - which just happens to have the lion's share of userbase. This will whet the appetites of people on the PS4 for mods they can't have - and then offer them a solution. In-house curated mods for a premium price. Because they're "Bethesda tested and approved", Sony has no qualms with allowing them on the PS4. If the PS4 playerbase takes well to the paid mods, then they can move on to step two - which is finding some security loophole to exploit as a false-flag, causing Microsoft to lock down on external asset in mods except for those that have been "ok'd" by Bethesda via the Creation Club. I doubt Nintendo will be a hard sell for locking down community-created content in favor of paid mods either.

Everybody wins. Bethesda gets their paid mods. Sony, MS, and Nintendo all get a cut of CC credits sold through their marketplaces. The only ones getting fucked are the players.

I suspect that they will more or less leave PC players alone, though. At least, for the time being. It's harder to pin them down for a rape when there are so many other avenues to run to, and beyond that, they need the free labor. Why actually create content in-house when you can just claim you already own everything modders make, steal it, tweak it slightly - and then put it up for sale for $4 a gun.

The best part is all they needed to do was to go to people who made Forgotten City or Falskaar tweak them just like they did with armors and sell for 5-10$. Instead they remembered that F4 have voiced protag and any professional quest mods are impossible.
Too bad it applies to Skyrim too. It was forgotten Forgotten City creators who said Creators Club won't have quest mods and they are moving to make their own game. In now deleted video on their channel and with only mention about their new game on nexus, almost like someone asked them to remove it.

use Kiиo instead