Chomsky: smashie is self-destructive

t. most kiddie of all anarkiddie ideologies

this, it's embarrassing the fuck out the people who build an image off of being tough guys. embarrass them and ruin their recruitment potential

This. It's also why they are lashing out so violently (even though Milo probably just did this for the publicity.)

Found the liberal

If Spencer wants to be a tough guy, maybe he should drop the lisp. Getting socked is the least of his problems.

Why shouldn't we be the most brutal guys?

You are a fucking idiot. The rust belt elected trump, not Richard Spencer and his 100k alt-right neo Nazis. This is why the democrat """plan""" of calling trump a racist one billion times failed. People in the swing states were exploited by porky and wanted jobs, trump blamed immigration and job outsourcing and offered them jobs. Stupid antifa cointelpro (it is all neocon cointelpro btw) want to smash trashcans instead of opening the eyes of these workers to the true culprit: porky. You alienate the swing states and the proletariat who you claim to fight for. I hope all antifa die to be honest.

Chomsky is a neo liberal hack who has never been relevant

Trump is lucky most lefties aren't as perceptive as you.

That's literally my point dipshit, learn to fucking read

is a cock sucker he has pandered to liberals for far too long I dont know why any one takes him serious.

chomsky is a kike who loves israel(YOUR MOM IS A KIKE WHO LOVES ISREAL)

Aren't you impressed with how many times his work has been cited? It's a lot!

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Why wouldn't she be?

Proof?

Are you the first guy I responded to?
I am saying that Nazi ideology had fuck all to do with Trump getting in.

yeah that's literally what my point was

I'm saying aut-rightists who think the average Trump supporter will be their shock troops in some revolution are delusional. I have no idea how you thought I was saying the opposite

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maybe people should consider studying how mass movements actually gain power instead of wasting their time on this anarkiddie larping bullshit

and no, not the first person you replied to, wires got crossed I guess

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Union action clearly improved her living conditions.

What is LARPy about wearing nice clothes?

Obviously she can afford a nice dress now that porky does not keep most of her surplus value

Reported for being a dumb cuck btw

Observe how the Nazi notices discord among leftists, and tries to seize upon it. He doesn't know anything about Chomsky of course (he's one of the few public figures that is pro-palestine), but that doesn't matter.

The Nazi tries to establish some common ground ("israel is bad") knowing that some tankie or nazbol is gonna agree with him, and strike a conversation. This is how the snake fascists worm their way into winning over the working class.

And this is why the Richard Spencer's of the world getting punched, is a good thing.

Nonsense.

you know the working class has changed from a century ago right?

like if you're wearing all shades of grey, overalls, and a newsie hat, YOU'RE probably the one LARPing

Sounds about right to me.

he knows.

Of course Fully Automated Luxury Communism for all, w pect you of course, you get to live your simple lifw on ghe gulag

Thanks for calling me out. I actually took the time now to look up his position on Trump. Still weird, but not pro-Trump so I was wrong.

not an argument

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...do you think that picture was literally one of us?

I didn't realize that level of autism was possible

But I'm not rich.

what the fuck does leftism have to do with being well off? I don't think you understand what a class is.

I already exposed (>>1327338) that as a fascist, you are not actually for the working class. I don't know why you still bother posting.

We're all cute IWW girls here, user.

user, you know people can save money, right?

Today user looked past his ideology.

Oh no, I am not a leninists, dumb proles like you do not get to hang out with all the cool communist intelligentsia kids

Maybe if you drop your right wing drivel tho

Kek the Nazi deleted all his posts

Nobody likes well dressed hysterical white people who grew up in nice homes from the suburbs prattling on about the evils of capitalism, especially working class whites, just letting you know, at least anarchists who go homeless for a couple years and kinda smell bad are somewhat relatable.

Typical Holla Forums.
Why can't rich people be anti-capitalist?

This why Stalinism is supeior.

yes

Why can't a lion hate eating meat?

why can't you come up with a better metaphor?

Noam Chomsky opposes cultural boycott of Israel
aljazeera.com/programmes/upfront/2016/02/noam-chomsky-opposes-cultural-boycott-israel-160201110337640.html
youtube.com/watch?v=822FD9raZYM (wtf lol)
dissidentvoice.org/2015/02/noam-chomsky-and-bds/
theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/02/bds-boycott-campaign-israel-noam-chomsky

why did I get banned? Chomsky literally loves israel by defending it from any effort to punish it for the terrible things it does to palestine. A toothless finger wagging about the apartheid regime doesn't do much tbqh

This guy is right, but you should still punch fascists in the face.

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Uh, I'm not implying trump is fascist. If I were than yeah antifa would be pointless because the fascists had already won and at this point the only way to avoid getting purged would be armed rebellion.

Wow, zizek and Chomsky agree on SOMETHING

BTFO

Lions die without meat. A lion with human intelligence could have ethical problems with killing.
Your metaphor sucks.

And even if she is rich, she probably isn't a capitalist.

Chomsky: Israel is naughty
Non-Zionists: Let's punish them like we did South Africa with the strategy that worked
Chomsky: Nah
Non-Zionists: Then what do we do
Chomsky: I dunno lol

This. Completely this. And guys, we need to move out of cities and schools when we do this. We should do it off of public property and blue states to really show our dominance. Those nazis will get beaten haha.

Like if you see some stupid redneck with his big truck and shotgun rack and everything with a big rebel flag on it. You should run up to his truck and yank his flag and attack him. haha. Nazis deserve it!

He supports Palestine and is an anti-Zionist Jew.

Man Mao was a shit leader but he has some great quotes.

Is he against boycotting Israeli goods or only against boycotting their universities?

It is entirely possible, albiet exceedingly rare, to end up rich without being a capitalist. Entertainers, professional athletes etc not only aren't exploiting the surplus labor of others but actively having their own surplus labor exploited.

Hey Holla Forums whatcha doin?
I'll steal the flag at night though

Explain his position on BDS and cultural boycotts of the apartheid regime please

theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/02/bds-boycott-campaign-israel-noam-chomsky
literally "but they lynch niggers" to defend Israel

He's afraid it will be ineffective.
theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/02/bds-boycott-campaign-israel-noam-chomsky

Hahahahah as usual, tru leftists™ are always "struggling" actors cashing daddy's trust fund bux while fantasizing about making it big enough to own a 25 room mansion and not seeing any contradictions at all with this mindset.

are you trolling or just too dumb to understand Marxist classes?

This is a fucking lie, Noam Chomsky is against boycotting Israeli universities and cultural institution but for economic boycott (a reasonable position imo.)

ricochet.media/en/1551/greens-should-stick-with-bds-naomi-klein-noam-chomsky-bruce-cockburn-and-others

Only universities.

ricochet.media/en/1551/greens-should-stick-with-bds-naomi-klein-noam-chomsky-bruce-cockburn-and-others

capitalists hire people for a wage and extract surplus value
everyone else isn't a capitalst

It's really not our fault you're too retarded to understand

Harvard should be boycotted. In fact all Ivy League schools should be boycotted. All of them have played an instrumental role in American imperialism and will be burned to the ground after the revolution.

Are arguing with each other while citing the same sources? Weird.

I understand Marxist classes, that totally irrelevant to my criticism that modern day Marxists are always well dressed white cucks who never even went hungry a day in their life.

At least anarchists go through a larping phase where they have to actually beg for food.

But it's okay I'm just a three eyed cousin fucker from flyover country, keep hosting your IWW meetings in thousand dollar outfits while wondering why the working class hates you.

wow what a stand in november 2016. Wonder if he did something like this in the 70s. Such a great hero for fighting against Israel. Why he bought them decades of time by gaslighting against BDS as shown here

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Well don't expect an MIT prof. to take that position.

Labor is entitled to all it produces. Ergo, actors and professional athletes are not only entitled to their vast wealth but actively being ripped off and rightly deserve even more vast wealth.
(Although quite a bit of the surplus value should also go to all the less famous workers required to make said industries work.)

This is all based on her wearing a dress. If she was scruffily dressed it'd be

so who's your perfect left wing role model?

kek, no they don't, anarkiddies are mostly rich upper middle-class college kids

again, do you have any evidence the dress isn't from some secondhand store or is particularly expensive?

Who goes hungry in any white country?

Wait. Are you a butthurt girl?

I don't have role models since I'm capable of thinking without references.

I don't know why you would say that to me comrade. We seriously need to start randomly attacking rednecks and bikers outside of our cities. Fucking nazis deserve to get their heads smashed in haha. Like they aren't even big guys like us.

How could he? She's standing behind a fucking sign :^)

…yeah that's kind of my point. Referencing an academic doesn't require you to agree with all of their points all of the time or to worship them

Demanding perfection of everyone cited for theory is demanding some role model for an ideologue

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You don't have to go hungry to understand exploitation via surplus labor. I don't care about people who do manual labor and are poor any more than I care about office workers or engineers.

lol what? I'm from the deep south. I also don't have thousand dollar outfits.

Have you never been to a soup kitchen? Jesus fuck man you gotta start volunteering.

yeah a lot of crusties are from middle class families

I don't live in America. Do you really have starving people?

wat. do you literally think Ben Aflack is going to these meetings?

Why did you not answer this one?

lel

Yes.

Fuck off

100% with you. The ruling class lacks ideological diversity and needs to take its own idpol all the way down to the esophagus.

Has everyone forgotten that clothes can be made at home, by hand, better than what comes off the shelf? Has everyone forgotten that clothes are not restricted to sweats, jeans and t-shirts?

She could be a sewist. Those are, dare I use the term, the "real" revolutionaries.

yes. there is some other term. food insecurity that might be more apt

2 Nazis in this thread fam

he's derailing and all he has to go off of is a small strip of fabric peaking from behind the sign

all real working class women wear overalls and dirty shoes 24/7

We don't have starving people, comrade. Everyone is white and muh privileged. Why else would we have to take in a bunch of refugees to feel better about ourselves?

It's happening

is that a word? i've only ever heard seamstress

I think Chomsky is saying that the most brutal guy here is the State. Violence will bring down police response. He's not talking about Communist vs. Nazis. He means people vs. government.

how surprising

I stand by my butthurt girl theory.

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Yah, but when every "professional thinker" has the point that you should quit your bullshit, maybe it's time to self-reflect?

you recognize the dress from that tiny strip? and we're the bougie ones?

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You figured this out good, didn't you?

I'm confused, is your stance that he is wrong or right on this issue?

what does this have to do with anything?

racks are illegal nowadays

I think he is right but for the wrong reasons.

no he's sperging out because she's wearing *a* dress

it could be a thrift store dress for all he knows

ok fair enough, I think we're arguing different things here so some wires are getting crossed

My interpretation based on what I know of his ideology. He could just be saying the KKK or whatever is more murderous than the IWW.

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gender is a spook anyway

Just to clarify: I have no problems with being "the most brutal guy" when it comes to revolutionary terror. Chomsky's reasoning is moralist, but his conclusion is right. Smashie is just dirt stupid.

if morals are bourgeois then why are we even having a revolution

who gives a shit. if nothing matters then just sit still and let starvation take you

He's right though. Only bash the fash, when it ensures us victory.
Bashing for stress relief and memes are not victories, they are frivolities. You can spent better time by learning how to shoot a gun.

Your a spook.

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Basically everyone opposes the worker, nowadays, because everyone thinks they are disgraced millionaires.
We can't take them all on our own.

I feel like it's just hard the past couple of days to defend the "violence is sometimes necessary" stance while also maintaining that I'm not myself a smashie

I think it's actually justifiable to target any would-be leader of fascist movements or fascists "preachers" with violence but that as a general rule for all believers of the ideology it falls short

but you know, it's an imageboard so nuance is for losers

not even denying

You must be mistaken comrade. Morales are bourgeois invention to control the worker and take his resources. The worker should have no restraint in his pursuit of power until he rests in power. Your weakness of morality shall be purified and not passed on comrade.

Self interest, this is basic

If not for the sage, I'd say that quote agrees with me.

If you don't consider that nicely dressed it's obvious you were raised with the country club crowd.

God I hope you guys succeed in agitating for a real socialist revolution and you're all put up against the wall for your revolutionary commie phase and your rich daddies.

I'm from a country where we are ruled by the right. Not any kind of right.

Your Trump is a liberal compared to our governing party and his ideology is just conservative petting compared to our hegemonic ideology. You faggot Americans are so deluded and historically unlearned that you have no legit reference points, calling everything that undermines the democratic discourse as "nazism."

If you want to move, politically speaking, create mass movements. If you feel an urge to counter the hegemonic by the way of the hegemonic, maybe kys?

I knew nazi aesthetics just appealed to closeted men

Proof Holla Forums are nothing more than a bunch of hypocritical faggots.

whoa whoa can you relax? I thought we were speaking on friendly terms

I didn't call Trump a nazi or a fascist, and he isn't one. Can you please point me to where I did? Seems you have some pent up anger from arguing with someone before me

Winning over the working class? The working class isn't Tankie or Nazibol… The working class are normalfag American NPCs. The way we win them over is webms of Hitler set to high energy euro beats. Not "sneaky" discussion about Israel on Holla Forums.

It is not morals itself that is bourgeois and that we wish to enforce an explicit doctrine of amorality. There are plenty of justifiable arguments for socialism in the moral sense and we should embrace them as talking points, but let us not allow this petty moralism from preventing leftist praxis as what we are trying to achieve is effectively the term "the ends justifies the means".

That being said I still think smashies are stupid. :^)

NAzi was started in gaybar and many of them are faggots. Milo and spencer are faggots. How does it make you feel knowing antifa is a bunch of fag bashers?

Like that's what nazi are supposed to be haha. like i Don't give a shit but it's just occured to me lol

Please answer the "are you a butthurt girl?" question.

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Somehow I don't feel very conflicted separating "bashing gays" from "bashing gays who want to kill me"

The arch statement of political polemics, tbh.

Sewist is the new gender-free DIY movement term for it, if I reckon correctly.

>>>Holla Forums

meh, low-end salary class maybe. Petit-bourg at most. Anyone would know for sure within ten seconds of talking with her.

I was mocking the discourse of this board, not you

I thought you'd respond with a "heh yeah shit's crazy" not by calling me an Americlap lmao

Report submitted!

Antifa are bros tbqh. They're a great foil, I love them all.

this masochistic bullshit is the reason why leftism is dead. might is right; oppressors have always understood that; that chomsky still hasn't understood it at 90 is more evidence of his uselessness

Hey, that's not very nice.

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Action is not a matter of right or wrong, action is qn act of power

We understand we have the power to create a better society, we will do it because of this

no. let's smash skulls and government buildings

Chomsky is an intellectual, not a street brawler. You can't fault him for that.

As usual lelninists betraying the working class

If you do not want to see the Ivy League schools reduced to ashes then you are not a communist. They aren't there for learning. They are there for perpetuating elite ideology. Fuck off liberal.

This qnanon qets it.

Ya'll are building killdozers now? Okay, where do I sign up?

LEL

I actually watched the latest Berkeley smashie LIVE broadcast. TL;DW: 6 black bloc fags played parasites on a broader protest, smashing Starbucks and ATMs on their way, meanwhile everyone hated them from the main body.

B-BUT IT'S YOU, SMASHIE-ANARCHISTS WHO HAVE THE MASSES BEHIND YOU!

I don't care if you burn them and everybody there, so long as you don't burn the libraries. That would be senseless.

If we have the power to create a better society we also have the power to create a worse society. What determines we do one and not the other.

As usual the lelninist being completely unaware of anything

Remember lenin asked the russian momarchy to politely, yet firmly to leave

A worse society will always collapse, this is the dialetical motion

Love. The government must be rooted in love.

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Chomsky criticized Zizek for being all theory and nothing to back it up and now he's the same. This is why we can only listen to dead people Holla Forums

and yet not a single thing posted that they actually did wrong

you seem to care a lot for property destruction of capitalists

>meanwhile: not even American
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Never meet your heroes.

Smashing windows is not an attack on the institution of private property. It's like saying that beating slaves is beating slavery.

I made no judgement if it's good or bad, I made a judgement of you seeming to have an emotional response to it as if it matters a single iota

Chomsky advocacy for Clinton is proof that he has no real theory. Of course that's always his defense isn't it? "I'm just a anarchist who shares my thoughts" right? Fucking bullshit.

Congratulations, another absolutely abhorrent post

Hey, if the slaves can't work then the slave economy gets jammed. That would be needlessly cruel, but still effective.

Strategy matters. Black bloc is a self proclaimed tactic without strategy. I only care about the future of communism.

The fuck?

Smashing instantiations of private property is not attacking the institution of private property. I can't make it any clearer.

You don't have to be with smashies to realize that incessant focus on what they did wrong only plays into right wing narratives on the topic

that's exactly why the right is so successful at shaping narratives. when someone representing them does wrong, they just quickly ignore and dismiss the criticism as if it never happened

Yeah, economically it's not much different than slaughtering livestock to ruin a herd economy. MORALLY awful but economically kinda makes sense.

Yeah the difference here is no one is beating the slaves, smashing government property would be synonimous to destroying the objects used to transport slaves

Keep making a fool of yourself

The smashies are people who are very passionate about our country and what they think is right. They demonstrated to the American people that they have a voice and cannot be silenced! The insurance company kikes will clean up the mess they made, that's not a big deal.

So what does smashing Starbucks windows (as in Berkeley, yesterday) amount to?

jew pilpuling the goyim shouldn't surprise anyone tho

Media coverage for their ideas!

Media coverage for Milo, more likely.

god get

Whatndoes staying at home larping as Lenin (Who went to jail for revolting) amount to?

Check em boy

Nationalism is bourgeois

damned satanists, stealing our hard earned gets

Force does negate the exclusionary muh privileges of private property, however briefly. It's part of a maneuver, at best, and imho doesn't even rise to the level of tactic. When used alone, it's probably just noisemaking. Say, how did that prison riot go yesterday? I haven't heard word one about it today… mission accomplished?

Do you really think they'll merely sit there and soak up the losses, especially if this becomes the way of the world for the next four years? Expect more public surveillance to help the insurers get their own back. Expect *$ to start hooking up casino-scale backends to their surveillance cameras to know every person walking through the door before they get to the counter.

Hey, nice get!

They care, and that's what's ultimately important.

The businesses will get higher rates from the insurance company and be made to put up more cameras. Next time anything happens, the insurance company will have nice HD footage of dudes with masks, and be able to do jack shit with it.

Honestly the worst case scenario is that the business folds, but honestly it's really easy to make your own coffee!

They care because they can give themselves the luxury to do so

The moment they can no longer feed their kids they wont care no longer

They're living in the moment, and making themselves heard.

Fuck yeah, punching faggots is a waste of time. We should spend our time voting for liberals in elections or building the Armchair Communist Party because those have proven track records of success.

Nice nazi is the creepiest nazi.

Who cares? He's going to die very soon anyway.

youtube.com/watch?v=B32lZsrJ_aQ

um it would be trivial to feed every american with the surplus of food that's grown here. Hell if we stop making stupid shit like corn syrup things could get even rosier.

Meanwhile on Reddit: the second most upvoted post reaching the front page in weeks from /r/Donald reaches millions of new people only thanks to black bloc.

THANKS, BLACK BLOC

And getting rightfully smacked out :)

the first being ofc Milo's cry against anti-free speech left

How is this a bad thing again?

NO PASARAN

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Who cares about some reactionary?

haha, not that we are doing politics or sumfin

Chris Hedges already proved back during Occupy that most black bloc anarchists are actually federal agent provocateurs.

That dude fell down on his own. There's video of it.

you should if you're trying to create a movement

link?

I've been posting on the_donald under various nicks since it started. Ditching the more extreme accounts as the sub grown. It's no mistake that they're using Holla Forums memes lol

and the subsequent beating while he was down? Did he also do that on his own. And let me guess the 20,000 dead at Katyn just fell into that hole on their own. And everyone in the Holodomor just forgot to eat, right?

who cares dude the image of him being surrounded by people in black with weapons is enough

Color me shocked.

It'll blow over in a week, just like the recent catgrill drama.

the_donald has been a Holla Forums FOB from day one.

Nice, its scared

hedges is also a wimpy male feminist who thinks the ruling institutions will just willingly give up their power if we ask nicely enough

I doubt an internet autist actually fears somehow finding themselves in the middle of a riot.

I'll try to find it but he has footage of people dressed as black bloc anarchists coming out of police vans (they then went on to instigate violence against the police).

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this should legit be more banworthy than being a nazi

no wonder this place has become so reddit-tier

Maybe they have sympathizers among the police ranks.

While there is something to be debated certainly regarding the effectiveness of violent protests like what we've seen the last week or two in terms of facilitating further action, it's also important to note that Chomsky himself is a declared pacifist and will oppose such measures regardless based on that principle alone. He's not exactly a useful voice in the discussion.

The redditors will boil off in a few more weeks, as normalfags begin to once again tune out politics for the next four years.

It's a headline in a news cycle, if you think it isn't going to get drowned out by Trump drama or celeb shit than you're a fucking idiot. This isn't the Reichstag fire or even the Whiskey Rebellion.

youtu.be/BUgaqJZLwOg?t=7m32s

He talks about it here

yes I know

359k people are on it and most of them joined in the last year. most of them are very high energy and evangelists for nationalist policies to their friends and family.

Like honestly why haven't you guys done something like this. You literally have the most absurd figure Trump to go against. Better to do something proactive than shitpost about stirner and bookchin

He's wrong about capitalism, but he's spot on with his critique of black bloc.

Does anyone know much about reddit

I was trying to get a "feel" for parts of reddit about berkley smashing and when I go to this link

reddit.com/r/news/comments/5rkhv4/milo_yiannopoulos_event_at_berkeley_canceled/?sort=new

(sort thread by new) nothing loads. Does anyone know why it won't work?

Casino security systems don't screw around. They know who you are before you even get to a table and track your every move while inside.

The parties to the insurance policy have some influence outside of that contract. The ability to get insurance can, in some perverse sense, be seen as a public good. Insurance companies might lobby municipalities and/or landlords to get more cameras around. Many new surveillance systems are digital and time-synced, and digital information can easily be merged and indexed in massive quantities such that one could follow a car around town on several hundred cameras. Just saying that upgraded technology is in the field already, in case smashies upgrade to firebugs or something. We all get to enjoy the aftermath, in other words.

Do French proles use French presses? Is that allowed for Americans? Is that degenerate?
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that's the whole point these commies just want to posture and be edgy. when they get into the real world the best they can come up with is smashing windows and other impotent threat displays.
The project of the modern communist is not revolution but rather being edgy enough to find a mate from a similar upper middle class background to make a child or two with while waiting for their middle class parents to die so they can inherent a modicum of stability. you know just like Marx talked about.

Not an argument

there are health concerns with french presses
seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/peoples-pharmacy-coffee-has-benefits-but-not-french-press/
I still drink it everyday tho idgaf (black ofc)

Holla Forums is banned on /r/socialism and a bunch of the other big leftist subreddits. Yet as far as I can tell this is the only place with vigor for leftists online. No idea why they accepted their place as a ghetto.

Not that I care too much. 8 years of radicalizing those 359k Trump guys is going to pay off. They all hate the media and I'd like to think that Schumer being such a fucking weaselly fake tear kike liar is going to help open some eyes on the jew problem

nevermind I figured it ou

unreddit.com/r/news/comments/5rkhv4/milo_yiannopoulos_event_at_berkeley_canceled/?sort=new&limit=500

they must be have some option in their stylesheet which disables people from viewing new posts or remove entire comment chains without them explicitly showing up as deleted. They just appear to fail to load.

They don't like it because their relatively small mod clique doesn't have influence here– it's stupid but… internet moderators, man

that is a NAZI affiliated meme. stop RIGHT NOW..

why didn't you listen?

an "Nice, it's scared" was an argument?

I'll put it into argument form for you.

Communists claim to act for the working class
Communists avoid helping the working class by choosing instead to posture.
Therefore Communists don't actually care about the working class.

There you go, you can diagram that argument.

another example of how a party mechanism become more interesting in sustaining its own power than creating positive change for the working class.

You have to be pretty stupid to belive that tbh

Just help yourself and go back to pol

We must never forget that people are the sole reason for our struggle.

Our ideology puts people before profits. This alone makes us less brutal.

Hey guys who wants some sick Blasting cap recipes and finally rid yourself of the facist scum.
textfiles.com/anarchy/INCENDIARIES/kibc.txt

Don't forget, they also do audiobooks.

now I can do it.
"not an argument"

your move

My move is " You can keep being fucking stupid, be my guest"

Checkmate

So first you say I'm not making an argument and then when I do you say you don't care. How pathetic that you can't even counter with an argument. Did I get too close to home with the "Communism is just a modern form of middle class courting?" Did you just make a baby instead of helping the working class?

Yeah but the pigeon just wants to knock the pieces over now that he is out of moves. The more you show them how communism is a failed system and Stalin started the Holocaust arm and arm with his Brother in Fascism Hitler the more they cling to their musty surplus commies hats and larp at family gatherings while walking past the working class.

You ever notice how quickly the average communist can dismiss the working class by calling them "white." Working Class has a asterisk on it to most communists that means "a working class person I have never met" because all the people they do know that are working class they actually despise. Most communists have very smooth hands and don't see anything wrong with that. I have actually seen communists claim to be working class despite the fact that they do not actually work.

You can chose to be stupid if you want, I LITERALLY dont care dude

Just go to pol for more comfortable lies

reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5rqx0g/to_those_coming_from_rall_violence_against_us_did/

muh sympathy tho

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Really helping the working class there

For an anarcho-syndicalist, he appears strangely unfamiliar with Russian gulags and pogroms. The excesses of Hitler fucking pale in comparison to communism turned autocracy.

antifa are angry kids who get off on hate and will get fucking rolled in the US unlike in Europe but the creeping autocracy and thought-control in the rest of society is a real danger.

is that the same working class that elects republicans, despises leftists, and worships capitalism?

love this disgusting dissonance between state and individual violence. stirner was right

She lost. Give it up.

ah shit that reminds me of some libshit article about how men shouldnt 2nd guess clintons pro war shit since she's smart or a woman or something

let me try to find it

hello Holla Forums

No, those are the petty bourgs

The working class does not take part in the bourgeois spectacle

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Gas 'em all.

Just stop dude.

Chomsky has always been weak, and is probably Jewish. I like that Antifa was pointing out Zionism yesterday, a bird by any other name.

??? you're confused

That leads to the question as to whether there could ever be a website set up that didn't have moderators.

A leaderless movement, do those work?

does anyone else remember that article? It was about how not one had the experience on the left to question hillary's foreign policy or something.

I want to say the writer was Matthew Yglesias but im not finding anything on google

t. leftcom

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And you'd be right. Mods are stepping it up, but they need to ban these shitposters so we can have an actual thread with conversation in it rather than constant memeing.

Yes. You should work on changing their minds through intelligent conversation rather than insulting them. You only create more animosity & people to slide back into their comfy ideology when you say shit like this. I'm a southern US lefty. It's my family you're talking about there. You sound like a liberal with that attitude.

If you can't see the connection they were making then you need to lurk more.

PLEASE

Lurk more.

will never happen
but they should insult and deride their targets as they please, right? it's we who should temper ourselves and accommodate our opponents. it's all on us
it's not 'more' if they already feel that way
just more reason to disregard them
is that supposed to mean something to me?
nah. retards who think the world is changed through "intelligent conversation" and tolerance for your enemies are the ones who sound like liberals

In the real world, harassing others just makes you look like an unattractive dick

user, no one cares about nazis other than nazis

the only connection is in his mind. my mentioning republicans but not the democrats does not constitute support for them or clinton

if i deride someone for electing pro-capitalism politicians, despising leftists, and worshipping capitalism, to respond with some Holla Forums-tier clinton meme just doesn't follow

It's not about what WE look like. its about what nazis look like. The would-be nazi is attracted to strength, deny nazis the appearance of strength and they don't attract would-be nazis.

this
some neckbeard in a fedora and MLP gear should knock him out cold

forgot to take off shitposting flag oops

hail satan

Didn't Chomsky just recently talk about needing a militant unified left?

Hahaha that old kike is pathetic.

Its scared

to chomsky, "unified left" means "vote for the democrats"

Because you refuse to.
Wtf are you talking about? Use your words against their words.
No, it can always be worse. You'll realize that someday.
You're an idiot who functions on emotion, then. If you can't think critically about it.
It's asking you to think rationally, with perspective.
You're in some extreme denial, here. You're just as bad as the side you're accusing.

You're acting like a pretentious faggot, that's why we both called you a liberal. I hasn't even seen his post when I wrote mine, which makes it funnier.

You're showing yourself to be the new one, here. I'd stop with accusing everyone of being Holla Forums. They're here, but you've not been here long enough to recognize them, apparently. That person's criticism of you was acceptable.

Come on user

You should choose your battles wisely. Be logical over emotional about these issues. Being so reactionary is plebian-tier.

He's right and that's because he lives in America and knows better. Worst thing about the aimless violence is not only does is only further serve to embolden the right and their justifications and retaliation in a fight we can't win unless we have the proletariat on our side (and we won't), the actions will only serve to further alienate the proletariat from us like what keeps happening at the polls across the world every single fucking time this happens and once again we're set back twenty years.

and how many raging anticommunists have you converted to your way of thinking? and again, you blame me; because i refuse to. because as a leftist, it's my responsibility to educate and enlighten the proles, right? it's not their responsibility to use their own brains, or lack thereof. protip: if they're too lazy to educate themselves, or too stupid to reach these very obvious conclusions on their own, they are beyond help
your dumb double standard
i hope it gets much worse
but the anticommunists are logical, critical thinkers, right? it's me who needs to be more "rational"
here's my perspective: i don't give a shit about your family
says the guy who thinks nice words can turn enemies into friends and change the global dynamic
i hope so. in fact i hope to be much worse

if that's the case, you should be wise enough to see the futility of "debate" with people who want to destroy you
acknowledging the dire and grim realities of our existence is logical. ignoring them and instead dwelling in a fantasy world of liberal pleasantries is what's emotional

Yes actually, it is. Either do that or quit yer bitchin. Nah, I'm sure just smashing their windows will convert them. Again, you're just as politically lazy as you're claiming they are.

Promptly kill yourself for alienating the working class. They're supposed to be your comrades.

Lmao, get a load of this persecuted revolutionary. Mean internet comments do not constitute wanting to destroy you. Get a grip.

I'm not countering a lot of what you're saying because it's pointless; you're obviously baiting, because most Holla Forums users are much smarter than this. Becoming 3rd was a mistake. Too many newkids.

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Never showed up on this board until after the /r/socialism drama. Just gonna let that process.

who says?
nope. i'll complain about what i want, when i want, how i want
i don't want to convert them. i want to overpower them and destroy them
i like how you just ignored what i said and went to an empty platitude
no, violence and terror does. see: the world; all of history. try leaving your bubble and exposing yourself to the oppression, suffering and torment that most people on this planet go through daily
read a book
no, it's because you're a fantasist (like chomsky) with a delusional faith in democracy (like chomsky)
if that means i annoy delusional liberal cowards like yourself, i'll continue to 'bait'

You need to go back.

Says you

liberal

I don't agree with chomsky on most things but honestly i respect him alot. I tend to agree with him whether it is wrong or right ethically isn't even the problem the thing is that it is moronic to do and just causes people to hate you.

Yep. Just see this Like clockwork.

And it gives attention whores like Milo the attention they crave & bucks from media coverage.

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not an argument. not everyone on this board is stupid enough to believe in democracy. don't like it? go somewhere else

Only an imbecile would argue with obvious bait.

exactly many on the rad left seem to not understand violence is a tool (that won't even work here) and not a goal. But they just want to bashy bashy trashy trashy

Legitimately this sort of pathetic pacifism and shitting on anything slightly violent because "m-muh pr", as well as the word smashie, is not something that has appeared once on this board until after /r/socialism came here.
So again.
If anyone needs to back, it's not me to /anarcho/, it's you to reddit.

then stop responding

He's considered a valued and intelligent voice for a reason and more importantly, he's seen and lived through this before. The violence we're starting to see now mirrors the violence that occurred during the 60s and look where that got us. Nowhere. It even strengthened the grip of capital on everyone because we went into supercapital after that era of setbacks. You keep this up and it'll be a repeat of what happened in Paris in '68 and around the world, where the proletariat and public rallies AGAINST us by the hundreds of thousands and millions and we never get anywhere once again. But keep falling to agent provocateurs straight out of COINTELPRO. I'm sure you'll finally achieve revolution but it won't be yours.

I've been here for two years. You're false-flagging & can fuck off. Smashies & accelerationists have always gotten shit here.
Don't pretend as if it's been any different to further whatever agenda you have right now.

You had shit posts, so they were called out. Stop acting like a pretentious liberal & you won't get shit for it on this board.

Also, no one said anything about Democracy, you autist.

The word smashie has never once appeared on this board until the /r/socialism thing that got us a few hundred new users.
You are the liar.

Also
10/10

Bullshit. It's been used, just not as much as lately. Mods can easily see my post history & how I've contributed here for a very long time.

How about you respond to this post instead of just shitposting & explain how being an anarkiddie accomplishes anything.

which is why you'd think he'd be smart enough to see how nonviolence doesn't work. but no.

chomsky is delusional. he's been saying the same things, over and over again for 50 years, and things still haven't changed. he's going to die soon, and in another 50 years things will be exactly the same, and there'll be another chomsky sitting in his university office, telling everyone how we just need to "organise" and make sure we vote for the democrats. it's tired and embarrassing

your entire spiel about "using your words" and how we must debate/argue with committed, fanatical enemies is tacit democratic rhetoric. fuck yourself you liberal tard

This is you behaving like a liberal. And yes, smashing shit because you're mad Hillary lost or you're angry that Milo says mean words is definitely liberalism.

I've had at least 20 tabs of this board open every waking moment of my neet life since I came here and I can say with the utmost certainty, the usage of the word has went from "maybe once" to "every time somebody does something the liberal media or Holla Forums dislikes"

How about you go give back rubs to nazis to "convert" them.

since when do liberals have a problem with antileftism and capitalism?

Way to make it obvious.

No, but using lazy, superficial arguments about Trump voters/republicans points to it.

Never once mentioned either of them you absolute pussy. Why are you so eager to defend the far-right?

You just said it was never used. How about you focus on the argument rather than a word used to accuse someone of being new to the board.

I'll agree with this. My main complaint is that this user was using retarded liberal arguments to justify smashing shit randomly, especially at a Milo rally.

It's what I quoted in the response to you, did you not even read it? That's the comment that started this chain.

Kill yourself. When did I ever defend them? I'm saying they're not worth our time & attention.

plebbitards, everyone.

and it literally is.

you aren't burning down and trashing right wing areas and institutions but those who are sympathetic to your skinhead tier idiocy.

might as well protest in and burn down chomsky's office.

If it has been used, it was used in a thread that got bumplocked and pushed off the board so quickly I never got a chance to reply to it.
It's a word that, I am entirely certain came here with the liberal pacifists on reddit, along with their stupid PR obsession.

You defended them when you demonized leftists for daring to do such an evil and horrible thing like hurting those poor innocent nazis and those weak helpless windows.
If you legitimately believe having roaming gangs of neo-nazis is not a problem for any given community, you're either underage or never left the suburb in your life.

Like I said, I agree with this & these daily "smashie" threads should be addressed, too. I used the word because it's been used so often lately & is an equivalent to anarkiddie.

Fuck off. I'm not defending alt-righters & frankly I get a chuckle when they get punched. But I'd much rather see these anarchists target shit that actually matters, though. If you're going to smash shit, at least target the upper class rather than the working class. But I guess that's where we'll just disagree.

You still haven't addressed this post, though I'm interested in your defense of randomly smashing shit is & what that actually accomplishes.

Who's the pearl-clutcher, now? But wtf are you talking about, roaming gangs? Are you a burger? Because that shit doesn't happen here.

I'm neither. I'm older & have probably seen more violence than yourself, firsthand. It's easy to talk shit about smashing random shit than to actually do it.

Anarkiddie is an anarchist insult for those stupid kids who think they're anarchists but haven't read anything about it, by the by.

Oh, you seem to think attacking fascists and attacking capitalism are mutually exclusive when they're not. You can do both. And there's never any harm in keeping nazis off the street, when ignoring them does create problems.
It's happened in fucking Canada m8.

I don't support "randomly" smashing shit from a political perspective either way.
I support smashing nazis from a political perspective because they cause immediate problems for their local communities.

Revolution needs less pussies. Actions speak louder than words. Always have.

Plus we get to watch how socially retarded memers get hit square in the face. Thats always funny.

Then tell us how. You're avoiding the issue. Way to just bypass the substance of the post, conveniently.

user, please.

/r/anarchism is way more ballsy. /r/socialism seem to be pussies that just let things happen so they can keep being socialists in the background, getting to nothing.

I'm pretty sure you're the one who recently came from Reddit. As much as we had our differences, I don't recall anyone ever disagreeing with the necessity to appeal to common people. Ever.

And having roaming gangs is a problem for any community. Any gangs. Smashie and nazi alike. The difference lies in who the community turns to to solve their gang problem. And as long as Berkeley keeps repeating, that won't be leftists.

rofl. fucking democrat

[Building] barricades is ridiculous against those administer the bomb.

And he said this in the period right before getting heckled by left-wing anti-fascist, feminist, anti-racist, etc. spergs who engage in pseudo-activity as they protested his contemporary critiques and effectively removed him from university campuses for being "counter-revolutionary".

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodor_W._Adorno#Confrontations_with_students

Same way you normally would go on with your life and your revolutionary goals, irrelevant to your specific tendency, whether leninist or anarchist, it's just a little nazi bashing on the side to prevent your local community from going down the shitter.

Honestly wouldn't know because I only recently figured out how to post there, and only because I asked somebody how the fuck am I supposed to post there it made no sense to me.

There's a difference between appealing to the common man, and avoiding doing anything slightly rude to a fucking fascist, because somehow that will turn the entire public on their side. It's a retarded obsession. You can appeal to common people with socialist thought and propaganda, not with coddling the far-right. People generally come to our side because they dislike the far-right and they dislike capitalism. Treating the far-right like innocent harmless princesses will do nothing but make us look like ineffectual leftcom cunts, who are too afraid to stand up to the violent nazi thugs in their community. We at that point at no alternative. We become a historical novelty. A couple dry vaginas circlejerking while the world burns.
>>>/reddit/

Like fucking clockwork.
Go back to wherever you came from.

You too pacifist coward.

what are you crying about? you are fixated on this romantic delusion of "the common people;" and that "we" must appeal to them. that makes you a democrat

Good job getting Milo more fame & money, you useful idiot.

Good job sitting idly by while skinhead neo-nazi thugs still exist.

You seem suspiciously focused on Nazi bashing than actually doing something that will spread class consciousness. That's why you're a reactionary tool.

It's not mutually exclusive you dumb cunt. This is why you are retarded.

you're thinking of paul jonas watsburg

That's because people didn't fucking listen just like with true communism, it has never been done before. The violence angle has been, numerous times throughout history and it always ends badly and we can already see how badly it will end this moment.

Where? All you did was go after a homosexual Jewish guy with black boyfriends and another guy who is pro-gay and immigrants trying to have civil dialog at an academic institution strawmaning them as something else entirely because you're fucking retarded liberals LARPing as leftists motivated entirely by emotions and idpol rather than capital and class. You could have protested and gone after wall street board members and their meetings but nope. Let's burn down public property proles will inevitably have to pay for! And then all the proles will remember in their empty wallets is who caused this and it won't be porky. It'll be YOU.

It appears to me you've moved the goalposts in the meantime. Yes, by all means resist nazi gangs. But don't mix that up with sucker-punching a person standing on the street. The person will not stop speaking when you do. He'll just call up a gang for protection whenever he wants to do it again, and pretty much nobody will blame him at that point.

Also, I'll keep saying smashie because it works.

Please. You just described yourself as a neet who uses 8ch every minute of every day
You're talking out of your ass & shitposting.

then fucking SHOOT him. or at least beat the shit out of him. he won't have much use for fame and money if he's crippled or dead

Underrated post.

People so shook by simple commentary on their pseudo-activities that they unironically think it will spoil their already non-existent odds at being successful "anti-capitalists".

Creepy how similarly ineffectual anarkiddies and Trotskyites are.

Yeah, Skin Head neo Nazis like Milo who think everyone is equal just cultures and ideas are wrong.

The only reason this guy triggers anyone is because he goes after Feminist Academia and they probably have made a huge effort to fuck him over, now the Antifa mongoloids are m'ladying and taking over to smash the Nazi.

like when? russia? cuba? there have been very few violent revolutions in modern history. and most of them didn't go far enough

You've never gone after a single skinhead. Ever. We've watched. Just a gay man who loves self promotion. As for anarkiddies, I'm beginning to understand why the author of the Anarchist cookbook grew up and became a far right devout Christian. You're not even doing remotely anything to promote anarchism, it's all just retarded identity politics.

the guys at the anarchist reddit actually show up to protests & sometimes make good points even through (like always) the majority is always afraid of acting or even voicing their thoughts.

More fame with who? Neo-Nazis already are all up in his dick. He has all Holla Forums & stormfront ever since he started. Who cares.

He won't become "more popular" with liberals, socialists, anarchists, anarcho-syndicalists, whatever. You're delusional.

If something he will just become more infamous & exposed to the left about how alt-rightist think, just like with Richard Spencer.

EXPOSING =/= making the person more "popular"

Richard Spencer was Nazi Scum before he got hit. Now he is Nazi Scum with a black eye.

ACTUALLY bitch I didn't even KNEW about the existence of Richard Spencer before he got punched. I didn't even believe alt-right retards could even go to that level of dumbness to shout "Hail Trump" & not condemn Hitler's or the KKK's actions. This is how a lot of alt-rightists are.

The black eye serves him right, I enjoyed watching the clip of him getting hit, it was even more funny that he got it just after doing some dumb meme talk. I think the guy that hit him went home with his ego satisfied. He made the right choice for himself that day.

Trust me this isn't going to make leftists join the alt-right. It only made them laugh towards the alt-right. You take it too seriously.

Great post, user. I agree.

Oh I forgot antifascism begins and ends with milo in 2017.
Silly me.
>implying anti-fascits aren't also anti-capitalists
ECKS DEE

I don't think I meant to, or did, might have. I'm overextended in how many places I'm posting right now. I suppose if it's really such a necessity to not do another spencer punch (even though that helped us overall I think), while they're still standing around doing nothing, then just wait for them to kill a couple innocent people which they will inevitably do, and then there ya go, free justification.
I'd hope the world doesn't forget so quickly.

Pure ad hom. Agoraphobia does not have any effect on how right I am and how wrong you are.

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my god
it's illiterate

.>>1328453

It's almost like you understand nothing about this.

MSM, of course. You're letting him play the victim card. He's not even a Nazi, he's an attentionwhore who should be irrelevant.

He's already done this on his own. Grow up.

you should. most people in the fbi, and state security in general, are smart enough to understand that force (i.e. violence) is the only political currency

It has every effect on you actually doing any of this or having a leg to stand on.

No effect on how right I am though.

Liberals are his feeding ground, he converts those who have to live in the idpol breeding grounds and feel they can't say anything in a place they should be challenging things.

No Neo Nazis are his feeding ground, his arguments are a waste of time to them as he is a egalitarian.

Why is it bad for a society to collapse? Why not actively try and set humanity back to the stone age? It would certainly be revolutionary.

And not a single one of them achieved true communism. Not. A. Single. One.

But fuel yourself to state capitalism and corrupt dictatorship where you can have your son be the worst sort of bourgeois around (Castro's son, I'm looking at you).

My bad, I mean he's already gotten those people to hate him. He needs no help from us. It only makes us look worse.

nor has any nonviolent revolution. do you have a point?

That's the fucking point. You fell for you miserable redditard.

Oh and

Please mods, just ban him. All the plebbitors flooding the board like crazy lately has lowered the level of discourse immensely.

You're only making leftists look worse, with no way to explain how this can further an agenda. Targeting people who should be irrelevant & most people already hate is an absolute waste of time. How about you target ports, Congress or upscale banks?

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This is how +28k people reacted to that neo-nazi getting hit in the face.

Wow he sure the punching action got more lefties to convert to the alt-right… /sarcasm

no dude thats not how the world works. he just got punched, we laughed. Period.

I shouldn't be surprised, turns out no one actually knows what it is except that it's a philosophical meme

I already told you not having nazis on the streets is the end goal for this side project to anti-capitalist activity. It's a bad case of black and white thinking to assume it has to be just one or the other.
Should be irrelevant doesn't mean "are pacifists themselves and will never hurt people."

The same we've always had, the fact that we never had true communism and we didn't achieve it because retards like you always always always antagonise the working class to make sure they always never achieve true class consciousness. You're not doing anything at all that has anything to do with capital whatsoever. It's all idpol every damn fucking time.

I was talking about Milo, you autist.
And clarified what I meant here

They're also smart enough to know that force must be applied thoughtfully and precisely.

Consider a hand-to-hand fight. You don't just scream "MAXIMUM FORCE" and contract all of your muscles at once to win. You have to actually think about long-term strategy in the fight. You need to use physical force at exactly the right time to block your opponent's strikes and hit them when they are vulnerable.

The problem with smashies (when did that word become a meme?) is that they don't plan more than a few minutes into the future. Force without strategy is totally useless.

problem was that guy was a nazi leader (or at least wanna be leader)

people don't respond as well when it's a vague mass of nobodies, because they can identify with a formless idea of a person being attacked randomly

Seeing that the Chomsky quote in the OP can be construed to mean "avoid all violence on principle", our sides might have been arguing two different things from the start.

I still think "wrong in principle", and "not to be used ever" are two completely different things. Life is a heap of shit that sometimes give you only bad choices, from which you choose the lesser evil. Avoiding them does not imply categorically ruling out. A call to avoid them tactically, in particular, suggests there are better options. And in case of Spencer (much less Milo), there are.

he criticised him for being a postmodern hack he doesn't actually do anything or prove anything

oh my god. go take your adderall or something dude what happened, happened ok? stop being a bitch about something so irrelevant.

the way the majority of people & I see it. It was a correct reaction towards American neo-nazism.

Same for pic related.

I'll admit I wouldn't appreciate living in a world where people get punched every day. My aim is to avoid that also.

You disingenuous little shit. More people know about him now more than ever despite all the laughs he gained a tremendous number of allies and awareness since the incident too and these are the actual skinheads you have yet to fucking engage, the ones who actually shave their heads and are used to and prone to fits of violence. You could have kept him irrelevant but nope. But when you fall for cointelpro tactics and get imprisoned, tell me how well the Aryan Brotherhood treats you. Don't forget, he's still around, he's still making speeches and money, he's still promoting himself and basking stronger than ever and he can still call you a coward because it was just a sucker punch in the end that didn't even knock him out. This is all your fucking fault.

This whole thread proves only one thing.

Lifestylism.

Knowing about Richard Spencer isn't particularly important if it's all in the context of "lol a nazi got punched in the face." In fact it's a good thing if the face of naziism is a pathetic dude getting punched in the face while talking about memes.

No they go, 'A Nazi, in USA holy shit, let me look at his videos'

An hour later, well 'some things he say's are right, I mean even I agree white people should probably not be a minority in America no other nation would do that, in fact whites are pretty empathtic now that I think about compared to other cultures…'

They go on Holla Forums find out he's a fag and then go full 1488.,

But it didn't and that's the problem. How many shootings lately by the right increasing? You've opened the pandora's box and Spencer is still laughing himself because he has all the self promotion he ever wanted and more and can easily brush it off because it was a sucker punch. Worst part is now the working class will never see eye to eye with it. They're cozying up to him and Trump because the liberal morons like you LARPing as neorevolutionaries with skinhead tactics keep pushing them away.

We've seen throughout this whole entire thread too that faggot redditors coming here keep trying to ignore, their idiotic focus on idpol and completely absence of focus on class and capital.

Why lefties like refugees?

And yet he has more followers than ever now. This is the problem. When they find out who he is they try to find out more about him, many will be easily persuaded by his arguments. Spencer and his kind are extremely good at convincing others and that's why you should make sure they're ignored but you damn gave them the ultimate megaphone. Only thing then they'll remember by that point is his words. For the others? He can just say the fact he was suckerpunched by weak punch that couldn't even knock him out or severely injure him by a coward who ran away after the deed like a bitch in typical cowardly fashion.

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If you'd had any friends growing up, you might have played a few games of RISK. Very sad.

This board is full of nazi pigs.. You people aren't left wing enough.

Antisemitism is always borgorous and facist!

True leftist will never accept antisemitism and associate themselves with nazis, but like again and again we see it happen over and over again. Most of you wannabe commies and anarchist are just nazis in discuise.

When 'true' leftist go for the Pork and get told it's anti-antisemitism and spun so far they become totally ineffective, liberal screeching intensifying, come back on the 'muh antisemitism' thing and see how you feel.

And that's the thing. Idpol just causes more idpol. You think the modern far-right was always there because of the KKK or whatever else? No, it's completely new and different from before and extremely recent with the fastest growing base of any ideology right now and it was caused by the recent idpol of stupid liberals themselves and the white working class they constantly shat on and alienated.

If only this was true. The neoleftists/neoliberals are a million times worse than any neonazi because they alienate and look down on the working class we need the most. It doesn't help that refugees and immigrants are ruthlessly promoted by corporations and corporate media themselves (funny that) and hurt the native working class as well as the exploitation refugees and immigrants in the quest for cheap labour for capital so you have working class fighting working class like porky wants on his strings being distracted from porky himself like this whole moronic circus lately has been about. You idiots could have gone and punched a wall street or mainstream corporate media outlet executive but you focused on a literally who with motivations far removed by having anything to do with capital or the working class.

You have to treat them dearly and nice,
don't scare them - they are so sensitive!
You have to walk around them with Palms,
faithful to their peculiarity!
Whistle to your dog when it yaps at them:
Kiss the fascists wherever you meet them!

When they agitate in their halls
say: "Yes and amen - but with pleasure!
Here you have me - beat me to scrap!"
And when they flog praise the Lord.
Because beating is their business after all!
Kiss the fascists wherever you meet them.

And when they shoot: You dear heaven,
do you regard your life so high?
That's a pacifist fad!
Who doesn't want to be a victim?
Call them: the sweet sheepies
give them bonbons and sugarie…
And even when you feel
in your stomach
the Hitler dirk deep up to the handle:
Kiss the fascists, kiss the fascists,
kiss the fascists wherever you meet them!

If you line yourself with antisemites and nazis agaist israel, then you are borgorous pig.

Even Stalin knew to fight antisemitism. Here is what Stalin said:

"National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of cannibalism.

Anti-semitism is of advantage to the exploiters as a lightning conductor that deflects the blows aimed by the working people at capitalism. Anti-semitism is dangerous for the working people as being a false path that leads them off the right road and lands them in the jungle. Hence Communists, as consistent internationalists, cannot but be irreconcilable, sworn enemies of anti-semitism.

In the U.S.S.R. anti-semitism is punishable with the utmost severity of the law as a phenomenon deeply hostile to the Soviet system. Under U.S.S.R. law active anti-semites are liable to the death penalty."

Oh look, more idpol.

Just out of curiosity, what percentage of billionaires are Jews again? Who is the wealthiest "identity" on average in the US and world?

I don't want to believe Holla Forums but maybe they're right.

Or maybe we're right of the fact that it's just the same old game of porky (which I guess we find out now is kosher pork) trying to pit proles vs proles to make sure the heat isn't on themselves like it's supposed to be.

And funny how you say anything about true commies when Marx himself literally wrote a book called The Jewish Question.

Maybe he was right all along, is that what you're suggesting? Sure sounds like it.

This too.

If it triggers you enough to make up a dumb Holla Forums-tier conspiracy theory about whats going to happen then learn to enjoy it because things like this will probably happen often in the next 4 years. It's a result of the accelerationism under Trump.

Yeah that's pretty much that user's logic. It's ridiculous.

I need a Grammar Stalinist meme.

That's exactly what a borgorous would say.

Anyone remember that Banksy art where all he did was paint big pork banksters despite the fact that nowhere in the painting or by Banksy himself state that any of them were Jewish? I can't wait for the revolution where we finally win over the proletariat and go after porky only to be told that's antisemitic and for everyone to go home.

That's not a conspiracy, that is happening everywhere in all the different cases, when people look at something and think, 'hang on but that's not racist or sexist' then see how the media and liberal hegemony operates, they feel an anger and a disconnect, it's the basis of every 'red-pill' that has happened.

It's why there was so many brown and Asians at the Shia Lebouef nonsense, you don't even have to be white anymore to reject this shit.

Which was repealed post Stalin in the first Soviet government but not before he found out what the Bolshevik Jews were doing and quickly purged them only to mysteriously die shortly later.

Do you honestly think we're going to be your useful idiots? Israel itself is the worst porky state on earth and if you've watched the streams those antifa are also chanting against Zionism and rightfully so why are only we the ones here being singled out as "Nazis"?

And we if going to use the Soviet Union and Stalin to legitimise things, do we start executing gays too?

As for you, it feels like this is what it is really about. That you want the pressure off porky and you know it includes yourself and many of your kin.

And how is that book "anti-semitic?
The Jewish Question didn't mean holocaust or extermination of Jews back in the 19th century. It was a book meant to Jews for Jews. It was about the mancipation.

It was Moses Hess a good friend of Marx who invented Labour zionism and was first to bring zionism and labour movement together. Marx and Hess both agreed that antisemitism was a problem, but their solutions were different.

The book you brough up isn't antisemitic.

Even Lenin though antisemitism is borgorous. The only recorded audio speech from Lenin is about antisemitism. It's a speech directed to the workers and it discusses how antisemitism is always borgorous. Antisemitism, borgorous capitalist interest and nazism inseparable.

Yes, because Lenin wasn't against antisemitism.

"Only the most ignorant and downtrodden people can believe the lies and slander that are spread about the Jews… …It is ot the Jews who are the enemies of the working people. The enemies of the workers are the capitalist of all countries. Among the Jews there are working people, and they form the majority. They are our brothers, who, like us, are oprressed by capital; they are our comrades in the stroggle for socialism…. ….The capitalist strive to sow and foment hatred between worers of different faiths, different nations and different races. Shame on those who foment hatred towards the Jews, who foment hatred towards other nations." - Lenin

youtube.com/watch?v=rj7iRwzX-A0

You are nothing but a nazi.

Fuck smashies and all that jazz, but I do find it pretty funny that the same aut-right fuckboys crying about Freeze Peach are the same dipshits that tried to get George Ciccariello-Maher over a stupid tweet.

George Ciccariello-Maher fired*

Antisemitism if product of capitalism. You are a nazi in disguise.

Is that why he gave Jews autonomy
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Autonomous_Oblast

Here's a fact, When a revolution comes all Jewish nepotistic cartels will be smashed and ingroup preferences destroyed, if that scares you you can not be a Communist.
You will be shot as a counter-revolutionary

That's what is most frightening. That those like Spencer and his kind are so good at persuasive arguments that they can make non-whites like hispanics, blacks, native americans, asians, and jews like mark to rally against the neoleftists and neoliberals like OP are too stupid to understand why and how its their fault.

For what?

Spoken like a true nazi.

What's the difference between anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism?

That's the point of Communism dickhead, capitalist cartels get smashed. Jews will be a net loser, more than any other people.

And Hitler gave the Jews a whole country with the Madagascar Plan and Haavara Agreement. What's your point?

Stalin Siberia'd them to exile, you moron.

And again, Marx himself wrote The Jewish Question so stop crying Nazi already and just call me a Marxist.

Nah. I'm just showing you why your fear of things going viral is retarded. It's not always necessarily bad. It didn't really put Richard in a good light but rather just exposed him as the infamous neo-nazi he is so more people can hate him & more importantly oppose the ideologies he represents.

There is nothing wrong with exposure. The dude got hit because he talked shit. Most people understood this, crystal clear.

Ok. Dude stop you're getting ridiculous. Search for his name in Google or YouTube look at the first results the ones 100% of the people has to look at when they look up for his name online.

It's like you don't know what infamy is. You're tired, just go to sleep man your brain isn't working as it should right now.

This is a guy that said Hail Trump in a conference to get exposure ffs. Look at all those videos and interviews he has done, the people interested in FINDING OUT FOR THEMSELVES are the ones people should be recruiting, but all you have is 'Punch a Nadsi' and that's all they get.

Nothing… as zionism is the liberation of oppressed Jews by the international pigs. The only way Jews can be free from oppression is to have their own state.

This thread is amazing. We've went from what to what now? So now we've outed out the real idpolers on this board and they were Jews crying Nazi while protecting their little tribe, pariah state, and identity not realising the irony that they themselves are just like Nazis. Only thing that matters is class and capital and your identity will be erased like Marx wanted.

And how is that book antisemitic?

It was Stalin who was first to recognize Israel as a free and independent state.

Look nazi, you are not fooling anyone.

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No you are trying to justify and rationalize your antisemitism inside a communist framework. Truth is, it's not working. Your logic is so condeluded and complex, when reality is that it's a simple thing to understand. Antisemitism = Borgorous.

He is right, you know*

Gee, I wonder who might be behind that post…

Oh, another nazi pig. Max never wanted to erase Jews.

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You expect Jews to be able to keep the muh privileges while others won't, their culture and their cartels, but not the rest? Jews excel in areas where capital and exploitation are high, and will as a result lose proportionally to their stake in the capitalist system.

Why are you falling for an obvious troll who says shit like "Borgorous"

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This.

It's unbelievable. They don't understand how self-promoters and attention whores work and I feel like I have more luck talking to religious fundamentalists and Trotsky worshipers at this point.

As this thread has shown. Again. Always. Always evading the focus and question and class and capital and then responds to criticism of his retarded idpol with (shocking) more idpol, now bringing up Jews.

I don't care who you are, if you're pork, you're roast. I guess it just turns out that many of those pork are Jews.

You really. really don't understand what infamy means, hell you don't even understand how the world works. Stop shutting yourself inside your room all day 24/7.

This guy is a caricature of the average Holla Forumstard & Trump supporter. It is OK to expose people like him because it goes to show how a shit TON of Trumpists are really closet neo-nazis.

It's literally criticised as such especially since it calls for the end of Jewish identity and Jewry and rightfully so since its detrimental to the solidarity of the proletariat. Stalin was not the first to recognise it either and nobody can seriously defend Zionism on this board and not even the antifa you're promoting do. We've watched the streams and they decried Zionism in them so who are you trying to fool here? But obviously I'm ever so Nazi because I focus on what matters and not idpol. Go ahead and Godwin point your way to everything.

But that's the thing, it's not what Spencer looks like so you've already failed. You're also ignoring entirely what happened at that Shia Ledoofus thing, where a ridiculous number of the Trump supporters weren't even white. How did this happen, you ask? Liberals themselves. Liberals that failed them and then we add the white working class on top of that.

Oh and (You).

(some of) you think antifa is "badass" or that it's cool to hit unsuspecting people, some of you are even naive enough to think anyone is scared of them.
They are not real men…. nu-males, junkies, transfaggots, teenage "anarchists" like that killed french one.
In contrast Pic related is a right wing organisation.
It is much like Chomsky said.
I welcome antifa rioting, attacking unarmed people, blocking normal people form going to work. They represent the leftists irl. And are making normal people hate you.

10/10 would support again

You are out of arguments kiddo, if I wanted to hear what a evil nadsi he was I'd go to fucking plebbit. You are avoiding the actual debate because you can't refute that he has a strategy and you have called him a retard, and think you've done enough to win over people who are on the edge and know that shit is so fucked up, and want answers as to why and where to go.

Go out an punch a Trump supporter yourself, that's about as much use you are to any cause.

that's how the literal fascist and nazis got to power
noone even tried to stop them

How true is this?

Impotence nothing: libcom.org/library/fascism-anti-fascism-gilles-dauve-jean-barrot

No one really gives a shit about that guy, except for some of lefties.
This is the problem with left, you are losers who can't achieve anything. For you, an achievement is that you sucker clocked some youtube celebrity guy in the face, or that you prevented a faggot delivering a speech to 200 people at Berkeley.
Meanwhile, we got /ourguy/ into White House.
How is that for an achievement?

We are running circles around you.
You simply aren't on our level, and because of people like you in your movement, never will be.

You shitpost hard right?

Who the fuck is /our guy/?
I'm for Trump in accelerationism.
You're deeply mistaken if you think otherwise.
Donald with his plutocraticy and neoliberals policies?

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So lets just talk this through.

People are pissed off at their falling standard of living and lack of opportunities
They (correctly) identity neo-liberal globalisation as being a major factor in the above
They flock to the only tangible defense againsst said globalisation, nationalism
this INSTANTLY discounts any of them being considerd 'leftist' and you tell them this at every opportunity, and you don't just leave it at 'not a leftist'. You consider most Trump voters (and probably Brexit voters) to be retards at best, fascists at worst. You NEVER consider that they may have thought they are acting in their interests, even less so that they may be right.

This is why your movement deserves to fail.

Oh yeah and Donnie sucks Israel's cock and sure drained the swamp.

Very.

Did you read their manual?

That's not even remotely true. Read a book, nigger.

No, according to Holla Forums that was some 60 year old man with a scat fetish, who'd also been conveniently dead for at least a year beforehand.
Not an "achievement", either. Just hilarious.

S P E C T A C L E
No one here should care about Milo.

Nothing you did, unless you voted for the guy, had any impact on Trump being elected. The democrats basically offing themselves did that for him.

Nah but I watched this.

topdocumentaryfilms.com/cointelpro/

and had a basic idea of who and how before hand. But is there anything concrete showing them to be anti-fa?

People will vote against their own interests as long as it shows, "Hey we won! We really showed them didn't not we?"
Either way the two party system a shit

So many true leftists (us) warned and tried to stop them (not you) but "leftists" of the day were too caught up in nonsense distractions as they are now with idpol. You want to know how the Nazis really won? They won over the proletariat, like we should be doing but you're not and instead achieving the opposite and disparaging them more and because you're just a cointelpro who wants us to get nowhere using idpol misdirection like with ows because agent porkies shake in their luxury brand shined shoes and custom tailored and brand name suits at the thought that the proles would achieve class enlightenment. Liberals and modern "leftists" are nothing more than a living breathing Treaty of Versailles.

It's going to be a fun 8 years,
Maybe you can invite some people from 9gag
to help you become #1 board.

Who am I kidding, you're hilariously subpar, enjoy being losers

Letting bad narratives happen un-challenged will always be the way of the conformist, of the mediocre. You are debating on whether or not its good to challenge & expose political stupidity & backwardness. Ofc its is, its essential even.

It seems to me that you're the one triggered by the way dude(s).

In short. what this user said
gn.

see

And eight years will be even better since your Israel cock sucking daddy will fuck over the working class even more.
You're pretty useful.

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nice memes

Yeah he sure is fucking the working class over by creating 25.000 american jobs in first week of presidency.

You are delusional. Seek help

Citation?

fortune.com/2017/01/03/tech-ford-trump-jobs/
money.cnn.com/2017/01/18/news/economy/donald-trump-gm-lordstown-job-cuts-ohio/
youtube.com/watch?v=cjc6-fefmo4
nypost.com/2017/01/17/general-motors-set-to-announce-1b-factory-investment-new-jobs/

If he really was /their guy/ he would have raised minimum wage already. But they're too dumb and indoctrinated to realize it.

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Apparently you didn't even read the articles, or the titles for that matter.

Yo, what song is that? Shit's dope.