Marxism failed

It's time for a new politics

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Dank meme

Ok. Here I am.

Just bump the fucking communalism general, no need for shitposting

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are you stupid bro? anarchism isnt failed. anarchism is not a system - its a way of thinking, behaving, practicing

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Tfw anarchisms only chance are the wobblies and all they do is organize general strikes

Theoreticians eternally BTFO!

From my experience, the IWW is for the most part mostly interested in establishing solidarity networks now (e.g. SeaSol). However, from my time in the IWW I can also tell you that a lot of individuals in the organisation are very skeptical of this, as it has not resulted in the formation of any new IWW union shops.

The IWW isn't revolutionary anymore; it's an activist organisation.

Which is precisely why the OP is correct in characterizing it as anti-organization. Anarchism has always had to borrow from other systems (e.g. mutualism, syndicalism, etc.) for it to be relevant, however at its core it is an ethical principle that is primarily concerns with negative liberty, and fails to differ between politics and statecraft.

Where do I start with Bookchin?

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You don't. He's nowhere near as interesting as he's hyped up to be. You can read this if you really want to, it is a collection of essays summarizing his main theories.

Either "The Next Revolution" or "Social Ecology and Communalism" are good introductory reads.

It's not time for a new kind of shilling.

You're mom failed.

Thanks familia, starting with The Next Revolution now. After I've read those PDFs, will I understand why Bookchin is always brought up along side Rojava?

If you want to understand why Bookchin is always brought up along side Rojava, I'd recommend reading this short article:
kurdishquestion.com/article/3035-bookchin-and-calan-fruits-on-the-tree-of-humankind

But it hasnt been tried??? Marxism failed because of its authoritarian nature. Anarchism is the obvious answer to this.

Check out this article. And also, I think that the centuries of anarchists attempting to organise according to its principles count.
new-compass.net/articles/anarchism-power-and-government

Oh, well in that case True Socialism hasn't been tried because apparently failure doesn't count as an attempt.

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1873/bakunin/

Wrong

Marxism-Leninism failed*

Wrong

Wish life was a video game so I could just reload after Lenin's death and see some of the other possible results. Imagine a Trotskyist USSR instead, or one run by Kamenev and Zinoviev, or one dominated by a probably MarketSoc Rykov-Bukharin clique or any of the other possibilities.

They'll just keep using tax payer's money to bail out the banks again and again. That's why capitalism will not die unless through violent revolution.

It'll probably die as increasingly complex robots make nearly all forms of human labor obsolete. Without workers who can buy products with their wages, the system doesn't work. However, by that point they'll probably be able to just beat down any revolt with automated weaponry and let the superfluous former working class just starve or live in abject poverty.

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Anybody who thinks that only fossil feuls pollute and not indsutry in general is freaking delusional. The amounf of polution and econological damage we gain from windmill contruction and solar cell construction is ridiculous.

An ecological sustaining industrial society is a contradiction. Maybe its possible when you only mine and process it at places where there is no ecology like space. Bookchin his shit could only be possible in 500 years when we indeed have post-scarcity and space mining operations.

Sheer sophistry. Our modes of social organisation are the root of our ecological crises. Technology only magnifies the problem.

The ancient Greeks, for example, had developed the steam engine over 2000 years ago. But they used it to open temple doors, not for industrialised plundering of natural resources.

So if Rojava collapses or gets crushed by the regional powers can we start saying "communalism failed" and be done with this meme ideology?

Yes.

And the best part is that we won't just be able to permanently discard it as a memetic failure, but we'll see how it was so much of a meme ideology that unlike Marxism or even anarchism, it didn't even manage to establish a strong and lasting legacy in philosophical, economic and political circles like Marxism and anarchism have.

An ideology so dead and poor in theory that it's only alive on a shitposting message board, and then not even really alive because the guy pushing for it spends every waking hour of his life shilling for it with his ebin maymays and nobody bites.