Come the fuck on, all this talk about porkies and the 1%...

what? you are being racist towards the jews and you expect me to treat you seriously?

no. racist need to die.

would it make a difference if all the superrich were white?

Are more emotionally led than Holla Forums? How?
No. Wrong. Liberals support capitalism.

Through investigation we've discovered the man behind the man behind the curtain.

Then why did you start by calling us 'emotionally led pussies'?

Why are you against something you don't understand?

I'm not saying it's ALL Jews man, that would be absurd, no I'm saying there is evidence that supports the claims that members of the Jewish elite are actively working against western interests. t. George Soros, Clintons etc

Holla Forums please.

If Soros is against western interests why does he keep sending money to my local action group?

There are bankers, multinational owners and generally super rich people from all races and all nationalities. Of course zionist jews exist, but they are just one more group of the 1%. There are germans, americans, mexicans, black people and so on.

Race or religion is not the fucking problem

No, communism replaces the system with something different.

Not just as liable, because the current system eviscerates people who aren't going to maximize profit. But yes any hierarchical system will attract people hungry for power.

Here's the thing: the people on top of the current system aren't "corrupt." They are doing exactly what they're supposed to be doing under the system as it exists.

My problem with the idea of not just ending sectarianism with Holla Forums but also other leftists and liberals is that sometimes genuine disagreements are important and some distinctions are worth fighting for.

I see this like when "egalitarians" want feminists and MRA's to just agree with them. Well in the minds of those two groups they do agree with them but the starting point and the ways to get to that goal have necessary prerequisites that they don't think should be ignored, just so we can all have pretend equality in the current status quo of things. Sometimes a needless middle ground position omits things in an instant want for unification.

A lot of Jewish people happen to be rich and may be what we call the 1%/capitalists etc, but a lot of Jewish people have political ideologies all over the spectrum, just saying one subset of a culture is evil really wont solve anything and might cut us off from important allies. We also no the result to an end to sectarianism between the "moderate" left and the extreme right, the Reichstag's fire.

I'm talking SJWs, surface scum who don't have any original ideas or thoughts, it's only by coincidence that they happen to be part of the left, and I don't consider them serious affiliates, as they are generally reactionaries and do the bidding of the mainsteam news, excuse the mislabelling of liberals you have to understand I'm not some swastika toting neo-nazi, I'm just trying to understand things from both sides, for example the investigation you talk about, what information has it yielded?

So… The Irish?

Socialism would incidentally destroy the power of any secret cabal of the ultra wealthy spreading misinformation/propaganda as well as controlling politicians through campaign finance and owing the media
A socdem like Bernie would have done something about that too
We'll see if Trump does anything about either of these besides political theater

Those innocent young negros aren't doing a traditional Jewish dance, are they?

Don't you think its more likely (since Jews have such a disproportionate influence in the Western establishment) that the Jews actually are promoting Western interests?

I mean honestly, I don't know if the Jews really give a shit about any country that's not America or Israel, but its pretty clear that it would be undermining the countries that give the rich Jews such power. China will never accept the Jews as an integral part of its ruling class and neither will Japan or Korea, so that's out.

Do the Jewish interests in Israel and America want a weaker Europe/Russia? I think that's possible, but that happens in coordination with the Anglo working class not against them.

Pic related but with Jews instead of Portuguese, just try to name a more iconic duo.

dissidentvoice.org/2016/04/zionism-imperialism-in-the-age-of-counter-revolution/

Considering the right-wing in the western bowed down and licked the feet of a Jewish puppet like Donald Trump, I don't think you have much credence here to criticize Holla Forums in the way you are doing.

Yes, leftism is by and large a Jewish way of subverting civilization, but for right-wingers to only point the finger at lefties while ignoring how you all fell for a Jewish shill in Trump makes me astonished.

*Anglo ruling class

right-wing in the western world* bowed down

I agree OP, the Left needs to be more educated in right wing theory.

This stuff is pretty advanced rightist thought, but I most of the guys here will get the gist.
youtu.be/Emg14MOMDgU
youtu.be/bQ__nRnO2mE
youtu.be/uZjneISs-vA
youtu.be/lWhySS2mJgk

well that depends on your definition of "western interests", but in general I mean his support of the EU superstate, and, well pretty much every single other thing he's done to be honest. (from my perspective at least)
I never cited race as the issue, no the way I understand it, some of the Jewish elite, as well as other influential groups do seem to be working together with some sort of agenda in mind, you needn't look further than pizzagate, Soros' funding of political parties all over the world, it's way too well coordinated to be coincidence, not to mention the issues going on in South Korea at the moment, the 8 goddesses or something, look it up if you're interested

I think you mean neo-liberal capitalism, my dude.

But he literally pays for us to go to feminist demonstrations. What's bad about that?

Typical scapegoat used by fascists who are too stupid to handle complex explanations.

Perhaps it would be useful to ask yourself a simple question: what do you hate about this "Zionist Jew" elite? Among the reasons I have historically seen among Holla Forums types, it often includes but is not limited to:
Then after all that, ask yourself this: how much of this is also done by those who are still 1% but not "Zionist Jews." The answer is that they do all of this, because they wouldn't be in the 1% if they weren't willing to be ruthless about maintaining their wealth and status.

The problem with the right that cares about "Zionist Jewish elites" is they don't care about the majority one-percenters who aren't part of this classification and yet do all the things they want to hang the former group for. They don't care about the fact that there are capitalist elites to begin with, they only care that their sacrificial lamb gets metaphorically sliced open on the alter so they can go back to their miserable and exploited status quo. The left wants to deal with systemic solutions to the problems of capitalism, not chasing the shadows of some elusive cabal of "corrupt elites;" they're all fucking corrupt and the system that facilitated their bullshit in the first place needs to be abolished for anything to actually change.

Not coincidence. Liberals cynically used "left" as a gratuitous point of marketing differentiation, with the bonus result that normies don't know left from right anymore.

Iterated Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to stupidity that which can be adequately explained by malice concealed by Hanlon's Razor.

scan checks or gtfo

I'm talking about western civilization. Leftism is a way of digging under the roots of white culture and all types of decency and uprooting what we once held dear and throwing it away.

Capitalism does exploit people, but it's a dog eat dog world and life is inherently not fair. The strongest perish, the mediocre feed off the strong, the weak suffer or die.

okay, you see now we're making progress, I advocate white nationalism not because muh niggers half nig myself but because of the incentive it gives to people such as myself to actually get a job, and work in support of my country, instead of being a useless NEET. which; when you think about it is a very similar idea to communism in that it gives people a drive to accomplish things and better themselves. I personally couldn't give a shit about race because in an ideal society no one would be pandered to, the police would arrest a degenerate for fun and the colour of his skin would not be a factor in the matter, however I will say that it is necessary to call out the people who are actively keeping us from this utopia e.g. zionists, freemasons whatever you want to call them

I care about all one-percenters, it's just that a disproportionately large number of them are people who claim to be Jews.
I'm not a "nazi" because I hate Jews. I'm a Not Socialist because I don't believe humans have the capacity to live without racism. If we are all going to live together, especially in a social state, the races should be allowed to remain divided. Forced diversity creates little more than aggression, much more so when the races are forced to share or support one another.

Are you at least a S​trasserist?

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that's what I'm saying, I want change I don't give a shit about how we go about it, now imagine if leftypol and pol could have coordinated, agreed on a candidate and shilled them into power as a collective, my entire reason for making this thread is to address this issue and find out if such an agreement would actually be possible, I can't stand seeing people fighting over what kind of change they want, especially when it halts all progress in any direction, this is why society is in such a stagnant situation at the moment

+10 points for all of Holla Forumss buzzwords in one post

I agree with Asser on some points but I've never gone so far as to call myself a Asserist. TBQF I'd never even considered Asserism to be an ideology.

In fact, the shit you people spout is much closer to eastern/Asiatic values than anything recognizably Western.

These word filters are really silly.

Why did Hitler kill S​trasser? Why did Hitler kill Rohm?

I'd vote for somebody who's only platform was getting rid of lobbying

There is nothing wrong about being able to recognize the fun and call it out immediately.

I do care about white western values. And who are you talking about when you mean "you people"? I am not a weeb and I don't care about Asian culture. You must be confusing me with all those neckbeard weeb Trump supporting anime watching people.

They had too much influence. Hitler thought they were a risk to the party's uprising and had them expunged. I don't think this was the right thing to do but that seems to be what happened.

So you guys took out the D word and swapped it for "fun"? I didn't know words hurt your feelings so much, Holla Forums.

A thread to porky more like. Hitler a classcuck.

Define degenewacy

you want to know why he's quoting pol so much like this? because he spends his time as do you in an echo chamber of ideas which does nothing but reinforce his singular point of view, and all interaction with the other side is reduced to shitposting and namecalling, I dunno man spend some time trying to understand the Holla Forums mindset and then try to refute him when he makes his points

nice gondy how do I get one?

Sure. I am too, to a certain extent.
Anyone who is considered a part of a "ruling class" should obviously be removed. However, it makes sense that my doctor should have a greater standard of living than the guy that makes my food at long john silver's. Humanity thrives on risk/reward; if there is no risk, there's no reward. Naturally, this creates some sort of class system.

No, what I'm saying is that this caterwauling about muh culcha, muh ancestas, much tradishun is much closer to eastern philosophy and thought than anything recognizably Western. The only real Western sentiment you've espoused is the stupid Social Darwinist shit, which came about largely because of the Western "tradition" of reevaluating our values and social system.

The irony is that everything you are against is built upon the very "Western values" you claim to uphold. The great irony is that communism is far more steeped in Western thought and philosophy than any nationalist movement.

Your doctor isn't a capitalist. The capitalist owns the hospital or the health insurance company and lives on the labour of the proles inside.

True and fair enough.

Damn this post is on point. I've seen you say make a similar post elsewhere, and all I have to say is, never quit rubbing their noses in this.

As opposed to calling everything that triggers you some sort of primordial evil?

After the millionth condescending thread, I'm ok just punching you guys to be honest.

No one would argue that, not even socialists. A doctor would earn more in a socialist society than some clerk. Socialism seeks to abolish the exploitation of the workers through capitalists, not make everyone equally poor/rich or whatever propaganda is out there. The eventual transition to a classless society (read: communism) is a goal, an utopia and socialism is considered the transitional phase (with communism likely never to be achieved).

you're fucking retarded and you should be ashamed of yourself

Have you read about Röhm's death? or S​trassers?

nigga, I go to your torture chamber everyday.
This is nothing new.

Marx is starting to sound pretty liberal, to hear y'all tell it.

Trips look good on you right now.

I see. I'm glad to hear that. The responses I've been getting despite my flag make me wonder how much of what we "know" about eachother should be chalked up to shitposting or shilling. The typical responses are pretty abrasive; I'm happy that wasn't the case this time.

Not extensively, no. The history of the party isn't really as interesting to me as is the ideology itself.

It doesn't have to be extensive. They let S​trasser bleed to death for an hour.

These don't seem like the actions of honourable Aryan übermensch to me.

Marx obviously imagined communism as the end goal, but as an historian he described how we would get there, through socialism. Nothing liberal about that.

A lot of it is due to shilling and shitposting, but you also must understand that - from the perspective of anyone who is not a fascist - nazis generally can not be reasoned with, which usually leads to people just telling them to fuck off. And then there is the whole emotional side as well.

Even Hitler knew that the Jews weren't the true enemy they were just an easy enemy to unite his people against.

He had a pistol, why did he not shoot back? Weird.

Honour; maybe he expected Hitler to actually do the deed, they were close friends; to deny them the 'we acted in self defence' defence.

Flawed men have held greater banners.
National.Socialism isn't, for me, about being better than everyone else. There is no way to objectively say that any one race is the best. If some way existed, I wouldn't want to know it.
I, and I assume the majority of the original 'Nazis', hold/held that Nazism is about the love for your own people; not the hatred of others. Your people should be nurtured and protected, even if this is detrimental to your person or to the outsiders in your nation. The unity provided by a common culture, ancestry, and language, is a great tool that can enable many people, regardless of race. Unfortunately, this love for your own people has been twisted into racism and aggression which hinders the progress toward these ultimate goals:
1. All humans living in relative harmony with one another
2. The preservation of Earth's many cultures and ethnicities yes this includes the Jews

From my perspective, facism is the image of absolute control. Putting everything in the hands of the state, regardless of the political perspective, creates a fascist state. I believe modern American liberals are fascists in this sense. this isn't meant to be an argument or an accusation in any way. I just think it's an interesting idea.

I think this was probably the case. Like I said, though, I haven't read much on it.

It's almost 4am now and I've got uni tomorrow. I'll check this thread tomorrow for (you)s.
I'm glad we had this talk, Holla Forums. Maybe you're not so bad after all.

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That's a funny way of saying America

You're onto something in that fascism is the consequence of liberal ideology, but what you described is not fascism, merely authoritarianism. That's like saying the USSR was fascist or North Korea is fascist. While historians have trouble agreeing on an universal definition of fascism, there are core elements to it (personally I like Eco's definition), such as a rejection of modernity, an emphasis on traditional values and so on.

No you don't

I'm merely using a term to describe phenomena happening in the world, you people censoring the word is proof of how sensitive and scared you are of real discussion.

A deviation from purity. There is lots of different types of fun, but it's essentially anything that corrupts anything that is good, and anything that takes a good state of being and corrupts it to a bad state of being. Kill yourself, faggot.

So your whole argument is that because so many people are unaware of white western values, then therefore I am espousing eastern methods? That sounds very autistic, and you're wrong. I know very well how white western values are under assault by our own ignorance and by Jewish design. Communism and all leftism is a very Jewish way of uprooting traditional forms of society, so me opposing that means I am pro-western from the get-go.

I get that you're trying to be sassy but you aren't even smugging right. I have to assume you're retarded

But Liberals are not left wing. Go to any European country. It's only you Americans who have newspeaked yourself into believing that the center-right is the left.

Yeah, like those brutal Aztecs that terrorized all their neighbors. Never knew Marcos was a fascist.

I don't know wtf you are talking about, even if you consider liberals to be leftist (and they aren't) the right is still the Feels>Reals side.

Not all 1% is joos let alone zionist.

No, the argument is that you are unaware of what "white western values" are, and that the values you actually promote are much closer to traditional eastern values and thought.

Like all nationalists, you hate the West and you hate your country. The West that you love is a fiction you made up entirely in your head.

I think the coke-headed hoarder is confusing the word "nation" with the word "country".

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As if there's a meaningful difference based on this context.

Who is this guy?

Everytime I see that WebM I go nuts and up looking at it looping for more than ten minutes.

Why are you using italics like a Ledditor? That entire post was just shit flinging.

I want a western society free from fun of all types. Whites must be cherished and protected again, and everyone else has to go back. Quite simple, honestly.

Are you trying to say that "white western values" are leftist, especially the parts about irrelevant shiting, letting foreigners in and abandoning all forms of morality? That's what we've become, but that's not what we once were at our respectable core.

Oh, right, this board is afraid of dialogue, so they censor words they don't like.