Is he our guy?

is he our guy?

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He just asked a question. Not enough information about him to tell.

Nobody who wears a goddamn bowtie and suspenders is my guy.

If he loses that dumb bullshit, then we'll talk.

TREVOR HILL, NYU STUDENT: I was originally slated to give a pretty soft question, but given the dire circumstances – I'm so sorry Mr. [Jake] Tapper – given the dire circumstances our country is in, I wonder if you'd indulge me in a little bit more of a serious question about the future of the Democratic Party.

What I've seen on NYU's campus and what I've seen in polls all over – I mean, CNN even, a Harvard University poll last May showed that people between the ages of 18 and 29, not just Democrats, not just leftists, 51 percent of people between 18 and 29 no longer support the system of capitalism.

Now, that's not me asking you to make a radical statement about capitalism, but I'm just telling you that my experience is that the younger generation is moving left on economic issues and I've been so excited to see how Democrats have moved left on social issues. As a gay man, I've been very proud to see you fighting for our rights and for – many Democratic leaders fighting for our rights.

But I wonder if there's anywhere you feel that the Democrats could move farther left to a more populist message, the way the alt-right has sort of captured this populist strain on the right wing, if you think we could make a more stark contrast to right-wing economics?

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I'd say /ourguy/.

He dresses like an ancap but he said a good thing

I loved how Pelosi just brushed him off. They really do not want to lose that donor money.

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Fuck off neoliberal scum.

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He said later in an interview he identifies as an "independent leftist". He goes to NYU on scholarship and he used to like Obama until his parents went bankrupt and had no welfare state to save them.

Huey Long was based, but like most actual populists he would've been relentlessly shit-talked by "actual" Leftists for not being slavishly devoted to Marx (or whatever intellectual current is in vogue at the moment)

I mean fuck, most of the Left's history is what, "Well the actual reason the majority of people don't support our views is because they're too dumb to understand we're advocating in their best interests"

Also

DSA has recruited him and is using the mini news surge to promote themselves. He will be at their Trump Resistance conference. : )

Capitalism, in effect, is creating the bases for a populist politics—hopefully a radical and ultimately a revolutionary one—that is focused on the broadening and expanding of professional opportunities, the quality of life, and a more pleasant environment. Economically, maturing capitalism can properly be descriptively divided into strata of the wealthy, the well-off, the comfortable, and the poor. Industrial wage workers in the West have more in common with salaried technicians and professionals that with underpaid unskilled workers in the service sector of fast-food restaurants and retails sales and the like, let alone with the nearly lumpenized poor. In the absence of economic crises, social disquiet may focus on fears of crime, shortcomings in public services and education, the decline of traditional values, and the like. More momentously, this populist outlook fears environmental degradation, the disappearance of open spaces, and the growing congestion of once-human-scaled communities—indeed, of community life in all its aspects. - Bookchin

I haven't read anything by Bookchin but I like what I've heard of communalism 2bh.

I just don't think the end-goal of Leftism can be achieved at a scale larger than a small community

Well yeah that's what leftists do. We argue over theory because it is important and has real world impacts. Also I wouldn't argue that Long was a "leftist." He wasn't so much about worker power as he was about people power. He was basically an American socdem (and socdems you should feel honored that I am even making this comparison so don't bother disputing it.)


No that's what liberals do. And they are lying when they say that anyways. Leftist know better.

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Kill it with fire tbh.

kek, how many different excuses have Marxists found to explain why the working classes never singularly rose up to throw off their chains as predicted?

THIS IS NOW A KINGFISH THREAD

The workers know what is up. The problem is that bourgeoisie are constantly conspiring to keep them from taking control. That is the principal task of the revolutionary in the 21st century. We have the theory, we just need to numbers and the will necessary to eliminate whatever class stands in our way.

I have never wanted to strangle this british piece of shit more than when he started mocking Jill Stein for correctly claiming that the president has a say in monetary policy.

He is on twitter. He is a socialist for sure. Not sure if he believes in "communism", though he says he does in plenty of jokey tweets about the revolution.

it's like you don't even A E S T H E T I C S

Some interview he did

somemillennials.com/2017/02/01/interview-with-trevor-hill-the-nyu-student-who-challenged-nancy-pelosi-at-cnn-town-hall/

Are those numbers in 2017 dollars?

Also wealth taxes are the only way to save capitalism, we should oppose them

Post-colonial theory is the dumbest most bourgeois left-wing shit out there. Still sounds pretty leftist.

Have you read Thomas Frank's Listen, Liberals?

He goes into quite a bit of detail about how white-collar urban professionals "captured" the Democrat Party, and why they have this fanatically dogmatic belief that people like Krugman (and other mainstream economists) are dispassionate, purely-objective technocrats that know what's best - and is basically virtue-signalling (intelligence-signalling?) that they have the "right" opinions because they listen to the right "experts" who must be experts because they went to the same exclusive collection of Ivies (or Oxbridge)

Democrats went from bullying out a guy wanting not to compromise to corporate interests to a guy wanting not to compromise to corporate interests today

Don't put anybody in and don't help anybody that is working for Huey Long or his crowd: that is a hundred percent."
— Franklin Roosevelt on placing anti-Longs in charge of federal spending in Louisiana (Williams p. 795)

Huey made FDR all sorts of butthurt, to the point where he had tons of federal agencies going after him, cutting New Deal money from Huey's areas, and tbh probably was involved in some way in his death


No, $1 million in '33 is roughly equivalent to $19 million today

I mean her solution was still some dumb socdem bullshit, but I agree that Oliver's critique, as usual, was fucking retarded

Bernie Sanders is to the right of FDR on many issues.

I wonder what the question was supposed to be

lol wut, he looks like Babe Ruth but even uglier

Wasn't he racist though? I've had liberals dismiss him outright for being a southern governor.

agreed, but that's more a statement over how much the establishment dems have gotten addicted to corporate ball gargling than it is about how far left their critics are allowed to be

What issues? FDR didn't support a healthcare plan, Bernie wants Universal Healthcare. (Don't bring up the time period, Germany had had it since the 1880s).

No, not more so than anyone else of that era
he ran entirely on economic issues
I've never figured out how Holla Forums never discovered him

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Bill_of_Rights

He actively sought support from Black people and sought to enfranchise them along with all the economic shit that benefited them the most. He was opposed by the KKK and was depicted as a nigger lover by his enemies.

If that were the case there wouldn't be a CNN logo on the screen or a president in the white house.
He's /redditsguy/.

Marx probably regretted publishing it when alive. He'd definitely regret it more if he knew how many teenagers would use it to be edgy for a few months and never read anything else.

fucking what?

No wonder they had this dude fucking shot, holy shit.

>$5,000.00 in 1934 had the same buying power as $91,451.52 in 2017

If you think that's crazy you should read about the shenanigans he got up to while in office down in Louisiana. He still makes libertards froth at the mouth from how ruthlessly he treated class enemies. He's basically what would happen if you fused Bernie with Trump and then sprinkled some european socdem on it.

youtube.com/watch?v=hphgHi6FD8k

Even if you disagree with him, he's just a highly interesting piece of American history that got buried
Autobiography is pretty gud

Guess what? I learned about him in school because I'm from there.
What a crazy motherfucker, I never thought I'd be proud of my home state.

subtle

Was Sinclair Lewis' It Can't Happen Here really inspired by him?

Yes. Liberals like Lewis were terrified of him because he had no qualms about using state power to disenfranchise his opponents.

as well as Warren's "All the King's Men"

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Yup. Literally the only thing I was told in school was that FDR saved us from an evil fascist.

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Typical middle class socialist. Only in it for himself to stop downwards social mobility.

Huey Long was radically anti-racist, especially for his time. That accusation is liberal pig slander, just like him being a potential "dictator".

Was Huey Long a theoretically perfect Marxist or anarchist? No. Was he a revolutionary socialist figure that make the entirety of the bourgeoisie sweat in terror to the point of assassinating him? Yes. He was kind of in the same category as Malcolm X, but even more revolutionary imo.

This guy is based. Where are the Americans like this dude? Succdem reforms are better than nothing.

Totally

I'd take that over a "staunch" Democrat any day.

No, not at all. But hopefully he'll learn to get over his reformist attitude

lookin a little low-T there trevor….

Man, I got bullied a while back for posting about him. Thanks for picking me up user.

TREVOR HILL A CUTE

A CUTE

Hicks would have voted for Trump. True patriot

haha no

also OP, yes trevor is /ourguy/

trevor show yourself

What's his twitter?

Shit, and Kaiserreich told me he was just an American version of Hitler.

Liberals were probably more scared of him than they were of Hitler.

He wasn't Hitler, and he did do a few good things, but once he had any power, he turned into a kleptocrat. His governorship was basically used to appoint his family into positions in power and enrich them. He abused the state treasury on frivolous things. The adoration ITT is really retarded, apparently a lot of people have never heard of Huey Long before lol

he's was basically a southern Trump (with at least a legit populist background), then he got into power and gave American populism and demagoguey a bad name forever

There is literally nothing wrong with any of that. Bourgeoisie democracy is a fucking joke. At least he used the state to help the people. Also

not surprising with dat flag

Mate, Kr says he is a good guy; he is just backed by a fundamentalist catholic priest, an anti-semite capitalist and a german fascist (the first of which was true OTL). You can go the road of Long where you end segregation, people try to coup you and you can defeat them.

Also, Glory to the Union of Britain.

the ancap aesthetic

God I hate liberals