Political Ideology Catgirls Comic Updates

it should just be fascism cat wearing disguise glasses with a Stalin Mustache
"Hello fellow Socialists, We should Gulag all the Jewish Bourgeouisie, Doctors Plot On the Jewish Question question and all, don't you agree?

This is good.

i can see why reddit bans this cringe

Please make the Nazbol cat funny, rather than channeling leftypol's butthurt desire for a one trick joke.

Maybe you will feel more home back there. You know at r/the_donald

ddude post in on r/socialism lmao.

you have to go back

SEETHING

You know there are other words that fit that are more suitable right? Watch, I'll fix it for you user and remove the context of "I'm 14 and like to watch youtubers rant"

plz don't start including fringe shit like Nazbol or Posadas or even Sankara when you still haven't made comics featuring half of the cats. as far as I know, Trotskism, Leninism, Orthodox Marxism (should be Scientific Socialism, it's not heretical to revise) Syndicalism, or Democratic Confederalism still don't have comics.

Isn't this cringe from reddit in the first place? The girl who makes the comic was a redditor before coming here for leftypol neetbux.

Too late

you have to go back comrade

no, it's cringe. like a leftist ben garrison, completely mundane and unimaginative, only being liked because the drawing is decent

Yeah I mean… I guess I don't really know when something is cringey or not anymore… I kinda just like to see people having fun and being happy, because the world sucks and there's too much other stuff to sneer at than some autistic adult who talks about My Little Pony or whatever. I think I do cringey things without even noticing a lot. Oh well. We'll see if enough people take interest in the comic, if not I'll move on to something else.

it's so fun to design them though…

Fuck da haterz, this is qt and fun as fugg

Can Bookchin be a catgirl pls?

Have some of the Nazbol aesthetic!

Requires more labeling of inanimate objects as abstract concepts tbh

I like your art. Redditors use "cringe" to describe anything that isn't ultra ironic or corporate sponsored. The Seattle nazbols support you.

It's some butthurt faggot from Holla Forums attempt to demoralize, you can tell because he's repeating their usual bastardized version of events in

I was thinking he could be a librarian at the school, and Leftcom cat would berate him. but he'd get the upper hand somehow.

These are pretty dope. Need porky cat though.

you sound like Holla Forums

freshwebcamgurlz.tk

I like dis

Classic Holla Forums response to being called out

kek

But you said the next comic would have Situkitty :c

:O when? I only remember saying that re: comic #7.

Are you the one who drew all those Bookchins? Pls stay forever and draw more always.

You've only just relaunched after a long hiatus. It'll be a while before it picks up any steam. Keep your chin up and ignore the salt.

You know "embarrassment" is a synonym for "cringe" right? Except it actually makes sense in that context and doesn't make you look like a fucking shutin

Is Democratic Confederatism not Bookchincat?

Nah, i just saved the ones he posted. But I have a feeling he'll be around

Bookchin's Communalism differs considerably from democratic confederalism, and is explicitly suited to the particulars of the West.

I'm , don't get me wrong I love what you do I just hate how autists can only use meme words to describe things they don't like

Sort of. Ocalan made his own spin-off of Communalism, apparently, hence the renaming.

Are you the same drawfag that did all the badass Stirner comics? If so you're the best thing about this place, you got talent son. If you're going to stick around maybe I'll go back to trying to save bunkermag from itself.

embarrassment relates less to taste and intent. a guy wearing a sonic t-shirt and a fedora giving an analysis of the road to serfdom in equestria is cringe, a guy who falls through thin ice after telling people it was thick enough to stand on is embarrassed

Need more Stirner cat

Then why not use some synonyms so you don't sound like a 14 year old chinless youtuber?

Thats my point user

Keep on making these!

politicalideologycatgirls.com/comic/008-letters-to-alunya/

This is actually pretty good.

porn when?

Pls yes

pls this

Hey catgrill you mentioned joe from tallahassee in that last comic, is that a reference to Tallahassee Florida?

I think porn would look kind of gross in her artstyle. obviously I don't know what catgirl's private drawings look like, but she can confirm if she wants to.
it's much better than fan artists do the porn.

Any chance of getting an RSS feed? It's super-easy to set up with WordPress iirc, and it would make the comic easier to keep up with for people with news feed apps.

Yes. Are you there right now? Definitely not FBI, ha ha.

This was just what I needed

its bog standard "woman calls some guy a virgin" humour. reactionary as fuck tbh

I live around the area yes. And I was just wondering.

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it would be if there weren't hordes of people who's primary concern when it comes to politics is how it will give them a GF. wait for the 1000th thread of "will socialism give me a gf?" to complain if you don't like it.

YES THIS x1000

Also Joe from Tallahassee is surprisingly fitting for the "rednecks" around here except for the way he talks

how is the reactionary quality of this kind of humour conditional on some guys on an imageboard wanting a GF? the comic presented is of the same calibre as e.g. JK rowling's latest tweets about lonely virgins, received by liberal media with YAAAAAAAAAAAAASSS SLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY adulation. how counterrevolutionary!

this is actually really normal behaviour

fuck u porky.

…I want to fug the cats…

I was curious since the 2016 election is over will berniecat be renamed to Social democracy cat or will they remain berniecat?

Also great comic as always. :)

Gross

You seem triggered. did this hit too close to home? Everyone thinks you look riduculous for "wanting a gf" as your primary concern when entering politicals.

Look, I get it, but it's not that weird. In socialism, we will have state-issued gfs.

Also is berniecat gona double down or will we get a background arch of her gradually getting more radical?

This. More berniecat struggling with being an American sucdem please.

Since a lot of people became socialists thanks to bernie sanders I think there should be a comic where she becomes a democratic socialist (since I can't see a democratic socialist cat on the banner).

I can imagine berniecat becoming disillusioned and becoming a socialist in closet. As in:

Berrniecat disillusionment arc when?

This TBH. It's basically painting no GF posters as bad people when in reality they're almost always just lonely and socially incapable.

It's not so different from the

this is literally what just happened
my cat never did this before

she wants inside

Radicatalize

Do you realize how happy you've made me?

Yeah, but they're only alone because they're shit people. The only thing left is for them to leave all women alone forever.
It's always fine to ""punch up"" as viciously as you like against lonely males, nobody cares, and this isn't going to change.

Reminder that Rust Belt union socialists defied their porky "union leaders" and voted Trump, along with accelerationists, the socialists swung the election for Trump.

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u ok sageporky?

Will the catgrill college ever get a speakin event from a chunky marxian wolff man?

this is trolling, right?

Why do you think that?

No I just think he's really /r9k/

Nope.
Trump actually lost. It's just that Clinton is a TOTAL FUCKING LOSER, who lost even more.

Rust Belt supported Sanders. Especially Michigan, where despite all the rigging, Sanders somehow got it, which fucking surprised everyone (biggest polling error in the history of polling or something like that).
I wonder what the results would've been without the rigging.

Obama played the HOPE and black card really well to get the '08 turn out/But yeah,when the best Clinton had was she wasn't the Cheeto man it's clear she was absolute trash as a candidate

Still needs a full on tumblr cat for everyone to shit on. Also, we need a pirate cat!

First a cat liking Zizek, and now this!

is fucking retarded. its like
No. They're sometimes frustrated and bitter because of the loneliness. They complain in retarded ways because they have little experience to understand what they actually want and their perspective is warped by the frustration and bitterness.

He wouldn't have stood a chance in the general election, the republicans would have roasted him.

Trump and Clinton got 63 and 66 million votes respectively.

The blacks adore Clintons though.
Sander's major weakness was the black vote and the media never shut up about that.

I love this meme. Sanders can roast back, also he'd have never lost Michigan or Wisconsin.

Oh, the first part was re-stating what I see as unnecessarily cruel points. The second part was sincere. My post was against the cruelty towards lonely males.

Points made in the comic that is.

it would have been cold war propaganda everywhere

Much like the cruelty from lonely males to women for just being women. funny how that works tbh.

Huh?
They are still counting?

oh, right, I see.

Sanders couldn't roast the most despised corporate hag on home turf, so how would he have won a general election with the republican opposition book in play?

Third reply. Sorry.
I agree with this. It bothers me that it's just fine to rip into lonely nerds without making any attempt to understand them.

Most lonely internet dwellers I've met aren't woman haters, but if someone expressing their loneliness is met with 'you're a bad person, never talk to a woman again', which will wound their confidence further, is it really hard to see why they might become bitter and start to lash out?

cringe

this is why nobody will ever take us seriously

Enough with the fucking vote count meme. It doesn't matter in an indirect system. Republicans in California and new York have 0 reason to vote.

The problem is not that he couldn't do it, it is that he didn't do it. He could have roasted her so bad you'd be sweeping up ashes but he didn't to keep the primary "civil".

Daily reminder that this is an imageboard and not your university Marxist club

No, they finished counting in December.

No one takes us seriously nor should they. We are an imageboard not a social movement.

I'm one of the sad '>TFW no gf' fucks,but I don't think I'm a bad person for it I do know that people like me are bad people though.Most women hates,your average /r9k/ user that is,isn't a bad person because people treated him like one it's because he is one

Because if he did, he would've alienated the entire Democratic party that way.
he should've done that to be honest, but Republicans are not part of the DNC as far as I know.

Hi hello we are on a tiny communist anime forum discussing catgirl comics? Rest assured we are all lonely nerds.

IWW cat when?

People who are ugly-bitter and unkind to others are often quite lonely, people who have good hearts and are sincere intelligent people can also be lonely. The problem is that many bitter assholes with no friends like to imagine that they are the good-hearted martyrs.

Not only is this unpleasant it makes them utterly impossible to help because they refuse to acknowledge that the source of their social problems might include themselves. They'd rather be a martyr in their own minds than a recovering asshole in real life. Source, am a recovering asshole.

found the idpol

Alunya is IWW cat

Lonely solidarity is what we need.

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Very much agreed. I think that's the origin of the horseshoe theory; what actually ties the groups together is being a social outcast in some way.

He could have defeated Clinton and go on to win the general election but choose not to do so because.. he wanted to be nice..

He was filmed among a crow cheering "death to america", he wrote erotica about women desiring to be raped, he was an active communist.. Clinton used none of that, and she still won. A more right-wing electorate would have never elected him with that in play.

The problem with your logic is that assholes many times your magnitude do get girls and friends.

This TBH
t. one of those assholes

Bretty good Rachel.

Much of what you wrote is both wrong and idiotic. The rape fantasy meme was used but it is also out of context and he is far from being and "active communist".

"It was out of context, I swear!"

That's no persuasion, it doesn't matter if Bernie only fapped to the fantasy of women wanting to be raped, it still creates the image of a creep even when he never touched one.

He was and it's documented.

cringe af

Also, as if "he's communist" is any counter to someone who already gathered massive support campaigning as a socialist. To most Americans, those two are synonyms.

I don't know anything about the rape fantasy, but I've seen videos of him talking about full communism stuff.
It'd be pretty good material with which to attack him.

It is out of context because he was using that imagery to mock someone else and you said it yourself he "was" that does not me now that means in the past as in not anymore

You need to despook your concept of asshole, comrade. These people you are thinking of who are large magnitude assholes but still have friends. Unless they are literally holding those people at gunpoint their friends see something in them that they like. Maybe there's something valuable that you're not seeing in these assholes or maybe their friends value different things than you do.

Is a long road we walk brother, is easy to say that others should de-spook, harder to de-spook yourself. But this is why nihilism-cat is best waifu.

I'm sure an equally shitty woman can be found for them.
Shitting on someone for being lonely rather than actually having evidence of them being shitty just makes you a shitty person. There are plenty of lonely people in this world. This is what capitalism does to people; it isolates them.

it was used against him though. In one of the debates he was questioned about how in his past he defended Cuba.

What Im saying is that most of these issues that trump would have used against him were already used by dems and clinton and the media, and yet he still managed to garner 46% of vote in a primary that was heavily stacked against him with the vast majority of younger voters goin for him across all demographics.

I don't think he was far enough left but to insinuate that people were scared of him because he is a socialist is completely blind to what happened and that his message was a left-populist message like trumps right-populist message and that is exactly what won trump the election, by talking to the "have-nots" all over the US about economics and how everything that the establishment has done has been at the expense of them whether they are the lower or middle "class"

In America anything left of Clinton is considered a socialist

I know that all too well being a commie in south georgia but even still he would have won.

What would the reaction have been if trump turned out to be a klansman? Would it have been an "that was past, he says different things now"?

You're thinking wishfully, you don't take persuasion into account.

So I can realize that sociopathic rapists are actually much less assholes than virgins who have gained a bitter attitude?

This is way too cute.

Rodina needs a big fat cock, no homo.

That was mainly picking at being an "active commie" in the past does not mean you are one in the now like that user was insinuating

Realizing that not everyone you dislike is actually a sociopathic rapist would be a good start.

Unless we are going with Liberal newspeak as the only correct definition of Fascism, Nazbols are no more Fascist than Berniecrat/SocDem (yes, I remember social-fascism and Rosa). They simply look out of place when compared to real Socialists.

I dread the day. We already have separate Lenin- and Stalin-cats, instead of having separate ML cat and Khrushchev-Brezhnev Revisionism cat (what would be the name, though? Leonida?), as if Wolff-spawned "Leninists" weren't enough.

I am distracting you with Ho Chi Minh cat (Minh-cat).
youtube.com/watch?v=veedI2ihKsI
youtube.com/watch?v=mQmwCF_Bnx0

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In her or on her?

Kek

I mean, I'd like to see both, tbqh.

why not both?

I already know that. Can you now explain me how moral worth is determined by social succes?

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Kek, this should be used as the introduction to Nazbol cat

More anarcho cats when?

This and that.

Don't forget Juche and Khmer Rouge

Nazbol cat should basically just be a skinhead/trashy version Stalinist cat.

Here are some references

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never forget what Konstantin Rodzaevsky, the Russian fascist revolutionary, said about Stalinism:

"Stalinism…is our Russian Fascism cleansed of extremes, illusions and errors."

>>>/gulag/ is where you need to die

t. red fascist

Yeah I can see what you mean with the coat it's like pic 2 here
Really short hair + piercings + Nazbol bandana over face + trench coat

youtube.com/watch?v=4sEpDnpfFTo
>>>/gulag/

This one doesn't go to gulag.
This one goes up against the wall.

nazbols look up to these men
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Niekisch
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolay_Vasilyevich_Ustryalov

Also we support nationalism and socialism for other races as well, not white supremacy.Why do you think we praise the Vietcong and Ba'athists?

Funny enough Ustryalov is mentioned in the video that you didn't really bother to watch.

He was thrown into gulag and put to death. Just like you little faggot will end.

But to answer your question: Inconsistency is inherent to your ideology, it's not on me to explain your faggotry.

Yay!
I missed you

Considering the demographics of this place, I'm glad she made the joke. Men who base their political views on their obsession with sex should be mocked.

Stalin is always right.
Follow his orders, kill yourself.

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Is Rodina in love with Alunya? She always looks like she has the hots for her.

ABSOLUTELY hatred of women!

(checked)
wordfilter to the rescue

>he didn't send a picture of his penis to the watamote artist

Wait, what?

you're a pussy, user

She won because the primary was literally rigged in her favor from start to finish. I doubt he was "being nice" because several DNC emails imply there was some sort of agreement between them regarding unspecified issues.

Seriously, did you just get here, or were you under a rock during the entire primary?

Catgrill Are you still planning on doing a comic based on Vlada's First Job? t. Writefag

DROPPED

OTP.

Everyone loves Alunya

They are that, but they are often also self-righteous cunts who blame women for the fact that they cannot be bothered to do any self-improvement.

It doesn't hurt that it's not bad, either

Shit nigga i am like that and under no illusion that under any political system will magically fix that.

yeah man,I relate.I'm just a waste of a human life.but at least I didn't go fully fashie to think it would get me a GF

It's a joke guys
Can someone have shitty views on relationships and women but because of a lack of understanding? Yes
But you can't deny people like nogf Nazi don't give a fuck about any of that and is genuinely a shitty narcissist.

I actually disagree with this notion. There are palpable effects on the dating world due to the political situation. Women becoming more submissive under traditionalism, or less likely to value wealth/status under socialism are both valid points.

Leftypol crowd funded Political Ideology Catgirl anime when?

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Don't listen to this tool. I just read all
these and laughed out loud numerous times. I also really like the art style keep it up.

Dude, haven't you heard? Zizek hates cats with revolutionary passion.

Consider suicide Porky, your thinly veiled liberal comic is absolutely disgusting, full of strawmans and has some of the stiffest throwaway interactions ever. No sense of flow, just pile on the next random ideology for the 2 mcs to "meet. Your comic is a drag, absolutely no set ups at all for the audience to get invested in anything. The whole comic is literally just drawthread doodles.

you're shit and your opinion is shit

Leave u weaboo

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youtube.com/watch?v=A-j8KPUzR0U

Not sure if leddit or just Holla Forums losers.

Probably healthy amounts of both

I see the incels are fully triggered by the idea they need to do self-improvement. Comic seems to have worked.

You're being mean in #08.

Lots of robots who live in social isolation aren't necessarily bad, psychopathic power mongers. They're just silly nerds who life kicked way too hard.

They could be easily turned to the Left and feel solidarity and empathy again if only they had a real social network of helpful friends. Further ostracising them with these caricatures will only make them feel like revolting (read: be edgier) even more.

just like how punching nazis empowers them

Love the new comics! Just for shits and giggles, can you hint at the "mysterious philanthropist" being Soros-Cat?

They don't care about anything other than having a 10/10 Aryan wife. All thier politics are based around it. Look at fuckin nogf nazi

hmmmm, what do you mean by "flow"? Were you hoping to see more of an ongoing story arc? I'm not sure if I'll go that route, seems like the more serious the comic gets, the more people call it cringey. So I dunno, that's mainly the reason why it's so loose and "drawthready".

I do appreciate feedback, though. Even if people are mean about it, it still sometomes brings up something I hadn't considered before.

I never said that all lonely guys were like this, it's a cartoon so of course it will be hyperbolic. I know what you mean of course, I have mostly nerd hobbies which are full of single lonely men, and I do feel bad for them, because if I had been born a guy, I probably would have ended up there myself. Since I'm a feeeeemale, my geek interests are considered quirky and interesting instead of antisocial.
It's just that I get sick of people using "no gf" as an excuse to be hateful, especially to women.

they're just butthurt about being nogf nazi, wouldn't worry about it. comic is great as-is.

Nice. Did you use HWNDU as the inspiration for your alt rightist?

I'm a communist and I have a girlfriend.
Her reply however was good so to be honest I stand corrected.

what do pirat belive ?

The problem isn't an individual problem because individuals are simply a product of society. As you rightly recognize, the only thing separating us from them is the random luck of who we were born as. By all means, let off steam, but don't think we can solve this problem by simply blaming individuals. Systematic problems need systematic solutions.

I thoroughly enjoy the comic though. Keep up the good work.

t. fascist virgin

I've hit rock bottom I fear.

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do you call women stupid cunts? If not, the comic is not about you, lonely qt.

Stop whiteknighting.

read Debord, I'm sure she'll forgive you

politicalideologycatgirls.com/comic/008-letters-to-alunya/

WTF do girls really get mad if you offer them a hot dog???

Fucking cunts. It's a good thing that won't happen under socialism right fellow bros?

not interested in girls. stop defending reactionaries

Downloading music illegally.

I think the point is he is a le rational gentile sir who was treating such a fine young woman with the up most class

Forgot your ancom flag.

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You're viewing the issue explicitly through the eyes of the lonely man who projects his insecurity onto the women, and not the women who actually have to deal with these shitty men. When you give leeway to men for being woman haters (or racists, or homophones, etc), as you see them as potential leftists who's problems are systemic, you then push the burden they would otherwise have to face themselves onto the target of their bigotry. I'm a leftist, but I don't want work with woman haters who demean me. For worker solidarity to exist, reactionary tendencies like sexism and racism have to be confronted, not accepted. You can argue that there are better or worse ways for confronting this, but simply saying that it's a systemic issue won't erase it.

wew can you take your victimhood back to /r/socialism please? Nobody else is going to make them better other than themselves. Economics don't fix being a manchild.

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the point was more that its stupid to base your politics off your inability to deal with the opposite sex

Nice idpol you got there. Also stop listening to Holla Forums and proto-Holla Forumsyps like MRAs and incels. You aren't as big of a loser as you think you are.

Having no skills, bad health and no friends makes you less powerful. What's your argument?

Well then I guess we can chuck this leftism thing in the trash if we don't have any solidarity. Social darwninism brah, take the redpill!

Not an argument.

Where's the idpol? I'm not an incel nor am I right-wing in any way.

Why is this board so cruel towards "social failures"? You have no argument. At least admit you simply don't like outcasts.

None of that is implicit to not getting a girlfriend.

In fact, you could have good skills, good health, and friends, and still be a reactionary shit without puss puss.

implying you're unable to do self-reflection and make friends

Implying leftists don't have a multitude of organizations and outlets for people to join if they ensure they don't act like fucking children

>>>Holla Forums
back to where you belong, please.

There's a difference between social failures and people are are actively reactionary and need to sort themselves out. We can't -make- anyone grow up and stop acting like insufferable babies. Take some self-responsiblity. This isn't a liberal board, you can't just blame all your problems on society.

Don't sidestep the issue. Everyone knows we're discussing /r9k/ NEETs and not statistical freaks who do great in life except miraculously they don't have a girlfriend.

Where do you people live where you get regularly harassed by basement-dwelling incel neckbeards?

In real life I mean, not "I saw this post on /r9k/ that said women should be turned into fuck slaves" shit

Their problem isn't even the no gf part. They barely have any friends of value either. Typically their entire social circle is filled with similar toxic people who need to grow up. Their failure isn't at the point of a romantic relationship, it occurred much earlier.

When they try to "normie" and go on social sites, they act the same as they would on r9k.

But the liberal argument is the exact opposite of that, i.e. the problem isn't society as I'm successful, therefore the problem is you because you're not successful

But then you're making up an issue that doesn't exist in the comic and should make another thread about it. The fat/ugly stereotype of those who desperate is actually nothing new, and not really relevant to the punchline, just an additional cultural gag that everyone alreadty knows.

Females want you to stay incel, because they believe it's your place. If you "self improve" and chnage yourself, you'd just be deceiving the female.
So, "please leave every woman alone, forever" is how they feel about the lower 80% of men.
Anyways, females will do whatever possible to hold onto their power structure. Why wouldn't they? Men are the disposable gender.

If men are the superior sex then how are they being oppressed by women when men control government, businesses and basically ever institution out there?

switching to another flag to avoid confusion with r9k leftcom. 2nd reply was mine, wasn't supporting him. Was trying to outline that their critical point of failure doesn't lie at romantic relationships, but nearly every other social bond they've held up to that point.

Hey, get outta there!

Fuck off nogf Nazi

If the majority of men are too retarded to see through feminism then men in fact aren't the superior sex and deserve to suffer.

Don't be dishonest. For anyone to give a damn about you in ANY organization of people, you need rather good social skills and standing, which these people may not have AT ALL. Have you ever tried to make friends having autism or a severe speech impediment? Very hard.
Well you can't make them think thoughts and move muscles but you can EASILY make the conditions better for these people to get good medical treatment, purposeful social reintegration, and a solid economical safety net. Having these things it would be much easier for them to feel fulfilled and stop being reactionary.
Being a robot is not something you just choose to do. It's a life of chronic stress and nihilism where nothing makes sense. Help them help themselves.
"Bro just man up and start a company. Capitalism is ok, just take responsibility for yourself. Stop with this 'leftism' shit smh."
Not an argument.

sign me up

You need to grow up, lad. The left is not going to do the hard work of making you less of a shit-head. Why are you so adamant on redirecting criticism and avoiding any possible responsibility for your actions?

r9k is filled with people who actively participate in circle-jerking over misery. Porky isn't making you go there.

By your logic, drug addicts don't deserve help because they did it to themselves. Why do they keep shooting up?
Just admit you like punching down.

wew, and I thought leftcoms actually read

There is one thing that's struck me in the course of all this. Is the sexual political as Zizek and so many others have claimed? And if so, how are we to deal with the problem of young virgin men who are social outcasts?

On the question of power, I would argue that it is precisely due to their impotence that they have such power and relevance to day, as capitalist alienation and modernity creates more and more of these subjects. They have the time and autism to influence our flows of information through social media, acts of trolling, and memes, going head to head with the old power of the mainstream media. It is partly in this way, (as well as through the breakdown of other traditional institutions of power) that the manufacturing of consent for the liberal order is breaking down.

But then, how do we fix this problem (which would be a destructive force in any society)? Surely the solution is not to retreat to patriarchal norms and institutions. Nor, obviously, through the overthrow of the dominance of another "race" as Holla Forums would have it. Or even random acts of terrorism or discrimination against women and successful men, as /r9k/'s most radical members are inclined.

As much as the specifics of his theory were disproven, I think the spirit of Eric Fromm's theory about love, or rather the desire for love, being the heart of many destructive forces such as nationalism, is essentially correct. We have to address loneliness as a social ill, lest it destroy us all.

I think the answer to this conundrum lies in the good old story of Pygmalion. That is, the story of the artist who fell in love with the statue of a women he created, which then came to life and married him. Just as it should be a political goal of socialists to use technology and automation to decrease the power of markets and the necessity for work, it should be a goal to use the same technology, such as artificial intelligence and robotics, to create companionship for the lonely. We must approach this issue without moralizing about desire. For twisted love is still love, and so long as it isn't hurting anyone, who are we to deny it?

TL;DR: the left needs to embrace virtual waifus to save the world from autistic neets

chemical addiction

"You won't let me be reactionary for invalid reasons, so I'm a victim"

>>>Holla Forums

all that said, there are still just assholes out there, and we shouldn't be afraid of making fun of them, especially if they're Holla Forumsyps

hi Holla Forums

Typing 'chemical addiction' isn't an argument. It's still addiction.

Yeah Holla Forums tends to really care about others' feelings. Not an argument.

Not everything is in one man's power. You can be a completely good person who tries his hardest and still have 0 luck with females.

Pretty good analysis. I agree with you.

I think the problem is mostly a social one. Incels don't want to fuck because of the pleasure they would get from it, that's a side note. They want to feel "worthy" having the priveldge to do so. That's why I hookers and robo waifus won't work on a larger scale, they don't address the main problem

I agree, and clearly you aren't one of them

I know it's not, it's answering a question. But we both know you only responded with another meme because you don't understand physical dependency and seem to be too lazy to spend a second googling it.

That's literally all they talk about, and is the basis for their ideologies.

Have you heard of Calhoun's mouse utopia? According to the theory there's a relationship between population density and social/sexual dysfunction.

inb4

I really don't think it's coincidence that nations in Western Europe and Japan/South Korea have experienced catastrophic declines in birth-rates over the last few decades.

inb4

As Japan (and South Korea) show it will still be a problem even if "jews, feminists, and minorities" disappear overnight

So hostile and rude for no reason…if I was that mean I would have a gf

Well if the technology is sufficiently advanced, robowaifus can be even more satisfying for robochanners?
The alternative would be to force actual females to be with them. I'm not for that.

Re-evaluate yourself.

xD

The vast majority of men do not control these institutions. Having a male boss benefits me as much as it would benefit a woman to have a female president, that is to say not at all. What we must understand is that capitalism oppresses everyone in different ways. Even the bourgeoisie cannot disobey capital lest the too become proletarians and have to again become slaves to capital.

this is hot tbh

I know very well about physical addiction. Just because the mechanism of physical addiction is more well defined, doesn't imply that psychological addiction is somehow extra-chemical and that it doesn't exist.

Is this your argument?:
Let's help them!
Their fault.

confirmed liberal

Loving this comic. Thank you!

Any chance you'll fill out the characters section? Should be a fun page.

sexually satisfying, maybe. But lack of sexual satisfaction isn't why they are robochanners.

I'm not sure about that. See this guy's post . Basically theoretically if people mostly interacted within a group of like 100 people (a commune, if you will) they will date and marry normally because love is mostly a result of sustained interaction.

Confirmed totalitarian?

Again, grow up.

Yeah but I don't think you'd ever remove the obvious social stigma that incels had to resort to robowaifus instead of, y'know, waifuing up an actual 3D grill.

The average therapist: "Just keep being self-destructive and eventually you've become a better person"

The average therapist: "Just kys you reactionary cunt, you are beyond saving

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you should kill yourself though, you can't blame society for everything like an edgy teenager.

Why do you dodge the fact that people who -would- actually help these people would not let them act this way either? Why are you so incapable of accepting any self-responsibility for the way you are? This is some serious narcissism going on.

definitely a liberal.

This is the ancap ideology that permeates public opinion of incels

why are you a nazi, nogf nazi.

Incels aren't people who want help,they're codependent. The reactionary anti woman circle jerk is just a coping mechanism so they can all stop thinking they should die and stop being a drain on society.Most don't really hate women they hate a straw man of women that helps them lash out.

The reason they are like that is because the are outcasts,self imposed or otherwise, and are envious that other people are happy.most just fall into a deeper and deeper cycle of codependency as the only interaction they have with other people who won't look at them as being different so they relate on what they feel are deep levels,that these others understand what it was like to be a piece of human trash who nobody likes so this group think emerges and the more hard line are the ones who let it spiral further and further as they talk down to the less radical ones who don't share the same vitriol of the scapegoat.

Or something like that,not that I would know

nogf

That image hits a bit too close to home for me, fam.

I would say this is definitely a factor, and yet, there is a very important reason why I brought up the pygmalion story, the most fundamental fantasy of the lonely misanthrope.

Here, I claim that while the desire for being granted the muh privilege may be impressed by society onto the individual, the muh privilege cannot be granted by society, or even by individuals (who can grant sex), for what is this muh privilege in its essence? You've already named it! It is the idea of being "worthy". But what does it mean to be worthy of sex here? In the original Pygmalion story, the artist was a woman hater, who did not have sex because he couldn't, but because he despised the shallowness of the women of the world. However, he falls in love with the statue, his idealized women, not simply because she is beautiful (for there are many beautiful women in ancient mythology!) but because he created her. That is, because of this relationship, of the self reflecting on itself from an outside perspective, she understood him in his totality, and still accepted him! I think it's clear, what the fundamental issue is is not sex per say, although its a necessary medium for this problem, but rather of being understood and accepted. Sex, or rather, a romantic relationship, as almost all of these men have been told through their lives, is the only way to achieve this muh privilege of being understood and accepted.

So, what does it mean if they are unable to achieve this muh privilege? Either that they have been understood, and deemed not worthy, or that the rest of the world is so shallow they do not even attempt to understand!

You bring up the phenomena of waifus, and I think its the perfect way to tie this all together. For an example of this ideology at its purest, I'd advise you to watch this little music video: youtube.com/watch?v=gwiD6WDCwRQ

Waifus, as an idea, are the exact modern equivalent of the pygmalion fantasy! So yes, I advocate for robo-waifus, but in a very specific fashion. There must first be a process, before acquiring such a creature, of laborious creation. A process which guarantees such that the creator believes that their partner genuinely understands them, or will try to do so, and accept them, despite of what they discover.

I've probably given too much thought to this topic, considering I've sort of written a novel about this stuff

figured as much. And why do you think naziism will give you a gf?

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Well I'm not for allowing nazis to be violent either.

You should kill yourself though, you are clearly unable of empathy.

It was a reduction to the absurd, which was efficient. Do you want me to argue in categorial syllogisms?
For the 3rd time I am not an incel, even though it absolutely doesn't matter if I am. What do you mean by "personal responsability" anyway? We should always help humans if it's viable.

praise stalin bro kulaks deserved it

This idiot's response kinda proves my point. Removing nogf removes nazism.

don't worry,you can end it when you work up enough dread for life to overcome the existential anxiety around death and your survival instincts

I agree with everything you said. So what's the solution? Treatment or the death penalty?

Courtship is sick and we don't need it. We need government arranged matchmaking and permamarriage. This could basically only be accomplished through NationaI Socialism (though there are MLs that said they would support such a thing). The sad truth is that you can't have communism without free female choice. This means that the problems will never be solved.

I've heard of it yes.

Scarcity is a problem of both economics and sexuality. And, as I indicated in my first post, I have hopes that both can be solved through technology. Though, I am well aware, that technology could also be used to make these things worse if they are created and organized under capitalism.

You can't help people who refuse to change. Stop defending your reactionary friends by blaming their terrible behavior on the system and removing all of their agency. It's condescending to them, and you're not helping them at all. Women aren't property to be distributed and sex is not a human-right.

Now please take your liberal whining somewhere else.

"""vol"""cel then, whatever

Alright, you've convinced me. Robo-waifus are the way forward.

And you'd be ok if you were assigned to someone unattractive? How would this matchmaking work?

Uhh you're not helping yourself bro. Women are human too.

They refuse to change under the existing rule because it'd be unbearable to do so. Habits are rather hard to change. I am NOT removing all of their agency. But what the fuck have they done with their agency? They are internet shitposters, not Hitler. I am telling you they've given a bad hand in life and have done nothing but shitpost. Are you also condemning communist incels?

Sweet ad hominem again bro, which again isn't an argument.

The majority of females are attractive, they just purposely ruin themselves through tattoos, piercings, and bad food. I'd be happy with an "ugly" female that didn't have those traits.
Well, the best way would mean that it would not apply retroactively, so unfortunately I wouldn't be a part of it, but here it is:
At birth, all female babies are taken from the parents, the parents are given a material/cash payment for carrying it to birth, and are named and raised in government facilities with other girls.
At age 12, the girl is assigned to a random boy in the nation by a computer. Then, the girl is delivered to the family to live with the boy and his parents, to which the parents now raise the girl as a 2nd child. That's basically all of it.

Monogamy is artificial scarcity. Posterity is a Hollywood spook responsible for billions of dollars of corporate media revenue. Can we get past the goddamn Hibernian purity codes already and stop playing nonconsensual games with other people for the benefit of merchants?

On the other hand, the goddamn Hibernians did develop kibbutzim, which may well be as close to a "correct" way to rear well-adjusted, socialist children without the unitary authoritarianism inculcated by the nuclear family.

I think all he just wants is a rigidly planned mating economy.

tats and piercings are hot what the fuck is wrong with you

You have a fetish called "bimboification." And it's disgusting.

he considers them "degeneracy"

tats and piercings arnt bimbo you dumb fuck that is most often punk

Should be banned if you aren't a sailor.

You're removing a MASSIVE amount of human freedom just so you can implement a retarded system that is good for no one, not even total robots. Do you want a wife who hates you and probably will try to kill you?

Normies are also people.
It's far easier to simply help (by efficient means, not current useless psychiatry) those who believe they are not getting from social interaction what they should.

See a psychiatrist. It can only help.

He makes no sense. But you don't kill psychotics, you treat them.

shit taste senpai desu

You have a spook called "purity"

welcome to the future, my friend

she is really damn cute

They arnt my only tastes but they are still hot when done right

People right in this thread are saying that virtual gfs are the only way, what I'm considering is humane compared to that. The fact is, most people are compatible.

only some 25% of all marriages don't end in divorce and are actually happy unions.

Jesus christ man, that's terrible. You can't think of anything less dehumanizing? I pitied you but it seems I was wrong to

In nogfnazi world no marriages will end in divorce. Checkmate, commies.

just bit resentment and seething silience

That exists because of courtship. The less courtship, the less divorce.

It's not! The baby would never meet the parents, and the parents don't have a connection to the baby they just delivered, that doesn't even have a name. Women get abortions all the time, this is hardly any different.

That's super controversial. Would you say you can have any woman? Or would you want to kill her the second she started reading Jezebel?

It's not really humane. But by that argument: why aren't you egalitarian that in all ways? You should be a commie. It's more humane to give money to a total underachiever, rather than let anyone get rich.

well my friend, there's something called the golden rule. If you don't want to be yanked from your parents and raised in a government facility, you shouldn't wish it on others either.

What would it solve anyway? High cost for no benefit.
I'd rather have some form of great fun 'how to get gf' camp for incels. You'd live with fellow incels, get groomed for free, get fit with new clothes, play games, learn useful skills, do hard rewarding work, and get fit by exercising.

I'm serious. We'd have to make it not humiliating though, and make people not feel like they're in an american fat camp.

anybody even associated with that would be socially ridiculed and potentially ostracised to the point they'd become incels again.What incels need is therapy,and potentially drugs to sort of brain chemical imbalances,problem is that they don't know how to get this help and even then they can't afford it

It's best for women to be apolitical to be honest, and things like Jezebel wouldn't exist the same way they do now in this world.
If I posted with a socialist flag with my views, I'd just get called a nazi by everyone. So might as well. I want everyone on Holla Forums to be my allies anyway.

I don't choose girls only because I don't like them, it would just work better that way. For example, a lot of parents are overprotective of their daughters and try to stifle any relationships they have, and feel disappointed/hurt if they do otherwise. But if there's no daughters, there's no problems.

Ending courtship would solve so many problems, it would start a new golden age. Nobody would have to worry about anything regarding relationships anymore, and can now focus on things like education, science, friendships, their hobbies, jobs, etc.

kek, now THIS is utopianism.

We're not your allies, bucko. Go take your autism to /r9k/ or Holla Forums where it belongs.

You want girls to be raised in jail cells to solve a problem that small? Is the real reason something else?

Also why do you any think any sane woman would support this?

never change, leftypol

Not a jail cell, think of it like a giant fun facility. I mean the average girl would like that more than living home with parents they hate.
Women always support the status quo, once you get the first push in then they just want stability. Which is reasonable, but they'll always resist change until then

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Why aren't the so called "socialists" in this thread doing materialist analysis of the situation?

Autistic neets, hikikomoris or whatever don't exist in a vacuum. There are very real economic and social forces that prevent people from desiring some things, like an actual viable relationship and family.

Because it's become a shitpostfest and why bother.

That said, I completely agree that socialism will solve a lot of these problems. I have a gf but I've been a roneryfag before, luck has a lot to do with it, but so does isolation and alienation and an economic structure which treats a lot of people as obsolete.

Then again I'm still barely removed from hikkidom and still a NEET, some people just aren't sociable and that's okay.

This is entirely true. And much of it, and certainly some of it would go away with the abolishment of capitalism and money. That said, we must still have an answer to the problem of loneliness in of itself, as I think there are some aspects of modern technology and social organization which will continue to make such things pervasive unless they are specifically addressed, regardless of the economic base.

Yes, someday we will all need to reproduce for the glory of society. For now, lacking a glorious society, I say skip the darwinlarp and visit communist massage parlors.

Psychological labor is still labor. That's part of why sex workers make bourg money.

Will you allow them to leave it? What if they go the mall and meet a boy who they take a fancy to?

Gee I wonder if virgin shaming, creep shaming, or more broadly, measuring men by women's opinions of them has anything to do with this.

video version:

based

but fascism cat is too ugly

at first I thought the new comic just Mediocre, whatever.
Then I saw how much butthurt it caused Holla Forums, and I like it a lot more. hahaha, can't believe how much you felt threatened by people being fed up with your nogf-dom.

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A pure online thing, like Bordiga fans being obnoxious to everybody else?

Can you put that into a cats & dogs metaphor, or perhaps humans & orcs, so I can understand what you mean?

Yeah, the mad comments made it much more funny.

Isn't it sad how such a rather mundane content (no offense, catgrill) is already sparking controversy again?
As she said in
and still everyone is getting butthurt.

It's one of the reasons i actually like her comics. Exposing oversensitivity without even trying.

1) Mice aren't people
2) Urban design can mitigate the stresses of living in close proximity
3) To my knowledge the experiment has yet to be replicated

This along with shit like the Stanford Prison Experiment get brought up all the time as though they prove deeply seated truths about human nature when in reality they're only a step above pseudoscience.

Treatment, then the death penalty.

You are fucking retarded and your line of thought is the same as all other idpol sjw bullshit.

Having empathy for the experiences of others in different situations to you and not demeaning and shitting on them because of them is not being taken in by idpol bullshit.
Idpol involves this, but one doesnt have to take it to retarded extremes or make it entirely central to E V E R Y T H I N G
It itself, not taken to retarded extremes or degrees of importance, is just not being an asshole.

How is any of the bullshit you wrote now related to
Also, revolution will not cure autism, dictatorship of the proletariat will not make you less of a retarded aspie and a classless society will not provide you with sanctioned gfs. Our only objective as communists is to remove the cancer of capitalism that permeates to every aspect of social life, anything else, you have to do it yourself. The reason why the /r9k/ incels are failures in everything is mostly themselves; removing capitalism won't magically fix their retarded personalities. They will still find a way to whine incessantly, do nothing to improve themselves and blame literally everything else on their failures.

this

haha this.

I actually feel a very close solidarity with outcast nerds. obviously why I'm here and why I call you guys little bros. I started this comic a year ago about a ghost who falls in love with a guy like this but she ends up watching him googling suicide instructions and becoming an hero because he thinks nobody loves him.

…..anyway, that got heavy. who's up for board games and ice cream?

Oh, I thought he was just jerking off in that lest panel.

HAHAHA fuck.

I thought he was posting on 4chan

u a shit

well, the comic actually has words and these were just some of the drawings,so it hopefully wouldn't be so vague.

Oh! That makes sense

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kek

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when anfem revolution comes you'll be the first one sent to jupiter

Of what and for what purpose? Of "young virgin men who are social outcasts"? This is part of general exploitation problem that forms the basis of modern society and doesn't deserve any special attention.

Whatever you do - they are not getting incorporated into society under Capitalism. Their existence is the basis of Capitalist power. There is no place for them. Literally. No factories has been built. They are part of the great "reserve army" whose only purpose in Capitalist society is to provide pressure on those who are "gainfully employed" by the Capitalists and get to have a better (but not actually good) life.

Nonsense. Effect of information control is measured in ability to influence people's actions. What did they influence?

They have no power beyond regular gossip. "Shaping information flows" requires access to new information, control over general public's access to information - and organization.

Compare them to Proletariat: I'd say people who can shut down electricity in the city or disable cell phones exercise much greater influence than meme posters.

This is you brain on Cultural "Marxism".

Seriously, what is there to analyse? Yes, in a few years we might be getting regular streams of suicides on youtube (unless we have those already) or spontaneous pogroms every few months - either will cause a bit of drama, but it'll not change anything either. Until we create an alternative to Capitalist government (Vanguard) and organize at least some of the Proletariat, not a damn thing will change.

the american election and the re-invigoration of the right, just look at the power of brietbart 6 years ago compared to now.

Information can be invented, and reinvented ad infinitum, there is no shortage of information. And control over access is a marginal issue in liberal capitalism. As for organization, they have that too, or are you really so naive to believe there is no organization occurring on Holla Forums and social media platforms as well.

And yes! Let us compare them to the proletariat! For at the moment, they are much more organized and unified then the proletariat, which has not dared to use the power you mention.

you're only proving my point for me.

kill urself

But if he kills himself won't they be together? Maybe that's the point I guess, like that's the easy option

looks cute though in a dark way

I honestly think that's a huge fault of cause and effect.
Like, Holla Forums and stormfront and youtube nazis have all been around for years. I remember seeing screens of stormfront on WoW forums back in 2006-7, r/coontown were doing shitty memes about white superiority on reddit to an audience of 10s of thousands for years before they were shut down. Not to mention the imageboard reactionaries who've always been around. The whole idea of nerdy white guys hating women is a popular culture trope that goes back decades in American culture, that shit didn't come out of nowhere.
Which is more likely, that fascist memes just suddenly struck a nerve, they figured out the way into the heart of Americans and convinced them with their superior meme power?
Or that this turn to the right, that to a large degree mimics what we've seen in Europe for around a decade, has some other more complex societal roots that came into vision through the American internet because that's where most of us spend our time?
Occam's razor people.

I of course meant correlation and causation.

I don't deny that many factors contributed to this. We live in an overdetermined world, after all. However, (you) can hardly deny that Holla Forums and nazi youtube and the likes have gotten much bigger in the last couple years, and this probably has had an impact on the world around us, as has the increasing amount of chronic loneliness among young men. Riddle me this, how many people under 30 would have voted for Trump had it not been for Holla Forums and r/TheDonald? 37% voted for him, 7% more than Romney.

You're vastly overstating 1. the reach of those groups, and 2. their ability to convince people.
Ask yourself instead this: of that impact that Holla Forums and /r/t_d supposedly had, how many of these new voters came from families that voted for bush? Is it unlikely that that the nature of this election could have made them vote, even if they had never seen a drawing of a green frog in a nazi costume?
You also need to realize that a large part of what now looks like results from Holla Forums and /r/t_d was already on the web, their content just didn't look anything like they do today, but they're nonetheless still the same people.

why would these bush families not have voted in the Romney election then, hm? On the other hand, the size of 4chan's traffic has more than doubled in the last two years, rank2traffic.com/4chan.org
with similar growth in the interest in Holla Forums
google.com/trends/explore?q=/pol/

Memes, ideas and slogans that begin on 4chan or Holla Forums get further distributed through a loose network of blogs, facebook pages, twitter accounts and youtube pages for a much wider audience.

I was involved in GG back in the day, perhaps when these networks really solidified into their current form. You should have seen it, the amount of rabid sharing and networking. On twitter for example, someone would post a tweet for all people pro-GG to retweet, and everyone would follow everyone who retweeted. And as someone who runs and has run decently popular fedbook pages in the past, you'd be surprised how wide a news article or meme can get spread. My cousin, who isn't a friend with me, and who doesn't follow the page, once showed me an article I had posted without knowing I was the owner of the page. Milo, Cernovich, and a handful of others made themselves the center of these networks, exploiting the old drama for everything it was worth. It's kind of hilarious how much of modern internet culture can be traced back to that shitstorm, even Holla Forums as a phenomena was born there along with the popularization of Holla Forums. Not to say everyone in GG was right wing, many weren't. But, it was the right wingers who seized the most of the opportunity, who catapulted themselves the farthest because of it.

Right now, Holla Forums is about the size of 4chan in the mid 2000's. Who knows, it, and mostly leftypol, could probably grow at about the same pace and come to serve the same role. The front page says it all, we're the darkest reaches of the internet™, one of the up and coming destinations for alienated (mostly male) youth. The place where there are no rules, dangerous ideas come out to play, and we can crack out all the dirty jokes we want. If anyone should be concerned about the young lonely male subject, its us. I'm not saying we should descend to /r9k/ or nogfnazi levels of autism, I'm saying we need to have a response and a sympathetic ear ready.

WTF HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

while i agree that reactionary tendencies need to be confronted, telling marginalized people they are racist sinners doesn't exactly attract them to the leftist cause or change their ways

This election was completely different from the 2012 election from a republican perspective, and pretending like they were even remotely comparable from the perspective of a republican non-voter is dishonest.

I am not even in the sligtest implying that all of that shit didn't happen, or didn't influence anything in the world. I spend my time on the internet just like you do, I've seen how this shit has torn up internet communities. And I also do acknowledge that this effect has been in part from the organization of this movement. This might have come from GG, idk, you're probably more suited to speak about that so I'll default to your opinion on this.

I don't have any opinion on the robot-shaming, I honestly don't have one.
But you're missing the point again.
You're claiming that they directly influenced the result of the election. Which in my opinion none of the shit you've said supports even slightly.
And you're claiming that the invigoration of the right is a result from GG organizing alienated nerds, which I also think is completely fucking ludicrous.
GG and alienated nerd might have supported it, and it might have contributed to the amount of online organization we see today, but I think taking that and going all the way to "they caused the invigoration of the right", or "they changed the outcome of the election" is taking that line of thought way too far. There's just none of the real-world evidence that we'd expect to see if these were the case.

I disagree. I think there's many viable points of comparison, just as many that reflect the differences in our culture between the 4 years, as the differences between Trump and Romney.

Judging from subscribers and followers to particular youtube and twitter accounts, I think its safe to say there's probably a 500,000 people in the core of these information nodes. That's nothing to sneeze at. In terms of more traditional media, Breitbart has 3 million facebook likes, Jacobin, less than 300,000. Considering how close the election was, you can point to almost anything as the reason for its outcome, socialization through the internet included.

At the very least, you must admit the far right is much better positioned on the internet at the moment compared to the far left. Especially considering the problems of r/socialism.

No, certainly they were growing before that, although it certainly helped. I bring up GG, as it helped structure the particular form of right wing invigoration and networking we see online today.

How? Even if you end all exploitation, there will still be young virgin men who are social outcast. Some men are just undesirable or antisocial and will not be able to get a girl.