How old is Holla Forums? What ideological road have you traveled? This is a fun thread, to get to know our base better. We haven't done one in a while. No personal info, etc. These threads are usually fun & interesting to see how we ended up at our current ideology.
I'll go first. Just turned 30. Anarchist–→Liberal–→Libertarian for about 5 minutes–→Liberal–→Socdem–→Socialist
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Charles Gomez
Stop it. We agreed here:
You're new if you don't know we do these sometimes.
John Ross
And this isn't datamining, you tard.
Ryan Phillips
24 Shia nationalist → liberal → ayncrap → m-l → primitivist → non sectarian socialist with shia characteristics and also a bit technoskeptical
Henry Ross
25 Liberal > Lolbertish > Socdem(didn't know the name or anything about socialism) > Socialist > AnSyn/AnCom/Libertarian Muncipalist
Still reading but so far I'm fine where I am.
Aiden Smith
Thanks, guys.
Oliver Allen
You from Lebanon or Iran?
Brayden Foster
I think this explains well anyone who went through the socdem phase, as I did as well.
Ian Ortiz
Liberal -> libertarian municipalism (but like without reading any literature, just based on realizing and resolving contradictions in society) -> pro-eugenics, community based organization, nationalist, semi-technocracy -> read lenin, turned into something like nazbol -> rejected lenin, leftcom (for like two weeks cause) -> libertarian socialist -> anarchist -> post-anarchist, but I realize that bookchin is probably the right way to go strategically
Brody Johnson
Late 30s.
16yo - christian conservative -> 19yo - ancomfag trying to be edgy -> 20yo - read chunks of Proudhon and Emma Goldman, turned in a full anarchist (not left or right) was //very// anti-fa/racsist here-> 21yo - started reading Kapital, was a generic socialist by chapter 3 -> 26yo - started thinking more and more of my own ideas, turned syndicalist -> Now - More free market soc through co-ops, collectives, and trade guilds. I even brought worker owned corporations back into the mix. Government would regulate them and have hair triggers for unincorporating offending corps. But to be honest I'm too busy with school to take up thinking about theory, so I probably have some inconsistencies in my "ideal world"
Anthony Thomas
21 Liberal —(occupy wall st)-→ancom→"marxist"
Jordan Martinez
Indian actually. There are a good number of shia here. My city (Hyderabad) was run by shia from Iran and Turkmenistan for many years (the qutb Shahi and Adil Shahi dynasty). They mixed with some Indian reverts and formed the substantial shia community here.
Hyderabad by the way is named after Hyder, which is the title of the figure who is revered by shia Ali ibn abi talib
Elijah Lee
14
liberal–Anarchist-Communist
Easton Reyes
inb4 underage ban
Daniel Adams
FBI is posting chicks with dicks.
kek. what a desperate bunch of faggots, this ain't 4chan.
Indian? :D OP here. I moved from the US to India(marriage). Awesome to see another Indian user. Like I said I'm American, but this is now my home. Have friends in Hyderabad. Some good revolutionary thinking there.
How do you feel about the Naxalites?
Thomas Ross
Shutup. I see no dick on her. You can go back to Holla Forums where they have "grown up" conversations, lmao.
Isaiah Stewart
27
I'm now more interested in just starting to learn socialism beginning with marx, and branching out from there, rather than clinging to whichever ideology simply suits my preferences at the time and justifying it with cherry picked information. I embraced communism because of my willingness to question my beliefs.
Elijah Phillips
>8chanfag almost 40 forty, that's four tens using typical imageboard nomenclature lmao
Grayson Hall
what caused the swerve?
Hunter Sanders
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Joshua Gutierrez
25 "Liberal"> social democrat > "centrist >radical centrist
Gabriel Adams
I almost thought that was supposed to be Charles Manson for a second.
Wow nice to meet you babu! I have a very relevant story about naxals During my college days I was involved heavily in the student union and I would organize many strikes and walkouts. But somehow then I began to lose hope in left wing change. I studied agriculture science so I decided to instead isolate myself and work on this organic farm near raipur. I wanted to follow the example of this man in this book I read called the one straw revolution.
Again, a bit of time passed before I realized I was not really made for this. I am not any sort of gaau wala. And then Allah hit me again with a reason to continue. The village I was trying to farm recently was aiding naxals and I witnessed the army drag men and women away for questioning. Then it was I realized how selfish I was in my attempt to live by myself organically and I needed to get back in the work of revolution.
Samuel Gray
Father was a marxist leninist. Never told me about ideology I grew up watching him commenting news and papers. Started reading his personal library Been a ML since I'm 23 now
Brayden Ramirez
24 Liberal>communist(Leninist)
Eli Long
You give me hope for my own 2 kids.
Aiden Bell
18.
Liberal -→ Succdem —→ Zionist/Fascist/Race Realist for like a few months —-→ Communist
:DD
Oliver Richardson
Naw man, I like it. It's just unexpected is all.
Jaxson Roberts
I was on 4 chan before moot took the money to mexico, I am cambrian in chan eras.
You adopted this culture, I was born in it.
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Isaac Carter
34 Capitalist -> Not Socialist -> NazBol -> Stalinist
I can see how communist ideology can be merged with good moral code and bring humanity to prosperity, true equality and justice. I prefer to refer to my ideology as the "reverse of ancap". When instead of social anarchy and economical capitalism, you live under communist economics, but with conservative morals for the health of society. No sex deviancy either, so community of workers would cherish real values, instead of being depended on sexual pleasures like liberals. Marx said religion is an opium for the people, i say sex is now became that opium, and nobody can think about politics without it becoming a question of what you allowed to fuck. Neither people depended on sex cherish any improvements of their lives, since they only need degradation to become pleased, which is why its so supported by capitalists, since it doesn't require them to spend a lot of money and resources on people.
But i don't worry, my ideology is solid and will find a place in the future, while everything built by anarkiddies and deviants of future generation will crumble under pressure from people who actually want to preserve morals for the future generations. Same reason why Trump won, and yet i don't hate the guy, he just works with the broken system, even if his desires are in right direction.
Evan Phillips
Oh I love these threads
24 liberal → socdem → and now its a toss up between marxism-leninism and libertarian socialism/marxism.
Leaning more towards libertarian socialism these days though.
William Perez
right leaning centrist -> libertarian -> minarchist -> liberal -> sjw -> socdem -> anrarchist -> I dunno probably confederalist
Anthony Green
Still old af. I have an uncle not much older than you and I'm on the better side of my 20s. What drew you, a bonafide grandaddy, to 4chins back in the day?
apolitical>anarcho communist>technocrat>apolitical>National Bolshevik/National Syndicalist>Post left anarchist>non sectarian communist>Blanquist/communist with Stirnerite and Jim Profit anti moderator characteristics
Isaiah Reed
oh and 23
Joshua Peterson
Communist(M-L) -> Neo-reactionary monarchist -> post-fascist -> social democrat
Ethan Mitchell
I was young then and stuck with it?
Luis Ramirez
I guess so. 2006 was 11 years ago, if that's when you started. Time fucking flies.
Justin Cook
20 Childhood crude anarchism without the word anarchism, into right-wing libertarianism because of a misunderstanding of property, into ancom when I started reading. Experience with leninists makes me respect them and their methods, while I don't think it's the best way of getting communism I wouldn't fight against a socialist state if there were still capitalist states around.
Jace Cook
Surprise, surprise.
As for me, I’m in my mid-20s. Became politically conscious in my teens, have always been some kind of socialist, with anarchist/libertarian sympathies.
Some time around college I got disillusioned and became a kind of pro-capitalist libertarian, not because I particularly liked or believed in capitalism, but just out of a misplaced anti-statist attitude. Have always been pretty civil-libertarian and anti-imperialist.
Going out into the world, working, paying taxes etc. brought me back to the proper left. I don’t identify with any doctrine, since I don’t think the sectarian squabbles of the 20th century really matter anymore.
Dylan Johnson
34. Anarchist since childhood, the only thing that changed was my idea of how to function in a capitalist society. Started as an edgy kid, grew up and realized that spreading chaos is not a viable plan for social change. Never discriminated between particular visions of anarchist society, even got confused by ancaps claiming to be anarchists until I read about their ideas and decided they make no fucking sense. Voted for soclibs strategically because muh liberty until I realized economic relations are the most important and they're the ones preserving the current system. Card-carrying member of a socdem party nowadays, though the idpol parts are getting increasingly insufferable.
Dominic Robinson
It developed along with me reading. From 15 onward i began with Marx and Engels, then went on to Lenin and lastly recognized Thälmann, Stalin and lastly Ulbricht as the true implementers of Marxism Leninism. Whenever looking into other ideologies they never could hold up against the geniuses i was already introduced to.
Geniuses who believed in Lamarckian evolution. Lysenkuck.
Cameron Nguyen
0/10
Gabriel Scott
Nice to meet you, too. ^ ^ Awesome story & thanks for sharing. Farming is really important to protect now. My husband's family were agriculture based(from TN) & sadly not many are still practicing it. These are workers that are easily revolutionary & are having to fight to protect it. You seem to have some other good skills that will be helpful to them, not just on the farm, too.
And A R Rahman.. I know it's a highly shared classic, but I always find myself returning to it. Fantastic lyrics. youtube.com/watch?v=-3eosg8OuF0
Lucas Rogers
That's really not any worse than Holla Forums.
Angel Peterson
that picture.
KEK
he mad
Tyler Hall
20 edgy pre-teen ultratankie > liberal dem > classical liberal > some weird libertarian/socdem mix of nonsense contradictions "progressive" > libertarian socialist/an-com
John Wright
People stopped replying to you for a reason. I think someone else here is mad, tbh. :^)
Brayden Hill
what are you even talking about?
I was referring to the dude in that picture.
Gavin Perry
I like that, lmao.
Charles Perry
And I was referencing your low effort shitposting in this thread.
Jordan Foster
oh my…
why are you so rancorous?
mate take it lightly. yeah Im a shitposter did you forgot where you are?
Henry Green
Yeah, I was annoyed from the beginning, after this >>1318119 I like shitposting, but you started off with me on the wrong foot. >:(
Mason Lewis
fucking kill me!
Juan Ramirez
Are you German? Just curious. What should I read by Thalmann?
Tyler Collins
That can be arranged, leatherman
James Young
21. Non ideological leftist in childhood -> became libertarian for 3 years -> SocDem -> Found anarchism appealing because I was scared of Marxism -> Found Marxism and am somewhat Marxist-Leninist.
At around 16 I became interested in anarchist communist, shifted liberal because all my teachers kept telling me it's "unrealistic" and I was spooked by the expertise of authority figures. Also, the failure of the Soviet Union kind of worried me.I end up homeless for 6 months at 19, and at around 20, I had a roommate from China who was a Maoist and communism peaked my interest again. Turns out the maoist guy was absolutely nuts and he ends up knocking me the fuck out when I ask him to keep the noise of him fucking his girlfriend down to a minimum. I slid deeper into liberalism then just became an apolitical vulgar nihilist troll when I realized it was a dead-end. While living at home, I flirted with libertarianism, but ended up broadening my political views by reading about the history of less authoritarian forms of communism. I don't really know what I consider myself these days, but I'm anti-capitalist and anti-authoritarian. Part of what brought me to leftypol is my hatred of the Nazis on Holla Forums, if I'm being honest. They've infected every single chan board. Fuck those guys.
Austin Collins
You speak both? Do you live in aandrha as well?
Camden King
No
Parker James
0-6 what is politics? 6-12 dad says right wing is good so it must be. 13-18 Literally all political ideologies are shit. 19 THAT'S WHAT SOCIALISM IS? 20-21 Lenin did nothing wrong.
Adrian Williams
I speak English primarily(burger); staying in Bangalore. I love Urdu but don't know much. I only speak a tiny bit of Hindi & Tamil. Shared the Telugu song because he(you?) lives in Andhra. :) There's a shared love for the composer Ilayaraaja, in southern states.
Wyatt Parker
Everyone ITT, once they reached adulthood.
Lucas Jackson
14yo - anarchist (learned how imperialist the US is) 16yo - lolbertarian (swept up in the ron paul shenanigans) 19yo - idpol socdem (swept up in the idpol craze, reluctantly thinking we needed a welfare state to protect the rights and well-being of oppressed intersections of society) 22yo - anarcho communist (realized class issues are an inherent part of capitalism and solving them requires the destruction of capitalism) 24yo - me now (hi)
Not sure syndicalism is the best way to describe it, though. Long story short is I support the corporatisation (that being economic fields working as one body on the basis of their interests, eg, all tech related companies united as one by cooperating tech unions) and a vote from the grassroots, by every workplace in these fields electing representatives.
Ethan Jones
25 annarkiddie→commie-→libertarian–→(realised how retarded libertarianism is) fascist–→National Soc
Robert Ramirez
23 Liberal > lolbertarian > mutualist > hard on for FDR's new deal > AnSyn
Adrian Foster
Liberal when Sanders was runing, Marxist-Leninist before the end of the year. Accelerationism is real.
20 yrs
Asher Gray
Nah man i'm Swedish and everyone told me socialism was gubmint.
Camden Jones
Fucking socdem countries. I remember when all I dreamed of was living in one topkek.
seeing how most of you have switched your ideology like a fashion i take this as further evidence that nobody of you really studied and develop a genuine understanding of your political lines and are easily distracted by a whim
switching your positions this inconsistently and often isn't being open minded, it only shows that you chose one before without giving it any thought and continue to do so based on feelings and opportunism
William Edwards
oh wow, what a beautiful and ideologically pure specimen
Charles Davis
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Dominic Adams
Yeah, this is the only acceptable answer for you? It's like you don't understand what living is.
Xavier Morris
I hate to agree with the Stalinist but he's kinda right. Once you become politically conscious and aren't just being a teenager picking whatever sounds the coolest, then there should be some clear path and progression of thought. Going from libertarian to anarchist or liberal/socdem to ML makes sense and is an understandable path, but going from fascist to socdem to anarchist to ML just seems like you didn't understand any of those philosophies before you converted or that you have no idea why you believe certain things.
Lincoln Nelson
Well, of course. Stalinist should've put it this way. His attitude/pretentiousness is what prompted those reactions. It just seems obvious that when someone goes from one ideology to an extremely different one next that they didn't understand thoroughly these ideologies. Most of us were young & so that happens, naturally. It should go without saying.
Jaxon Howard
27
As a kid I was close to green/liberal socdem positions popular back then, I suppose → communism → anarcho communism → left liberalism → "radical" socdem → socialism
Basically I've always been interested in a social, ecologist, antifascist system of human existance which still grants room for certain personal freedom.
Elijah Myers
How can I be as cool as you
Jaxon Reyes
P.S.: what bothers me the most about politics is how I've never found my way into any actual way to fight for my believes somehow, because it seems like it's either the road to being corrupted by "the system" like with big so called socdem parties or operating outside this system and being identified as a threat by liberals while still being unable to spread your message to the masses, at least for this part of Europe at this point in time.
Radical left political work seems like such a Sisyphean task.
Besides, I've also been needing to get my own personal life together, which is kind of a harsh distraction from politics as well.
Alexander Morgan
20
Been a commie since I was 14
Parker Martin
24. Liberal>Scandi Socdem with dude weed lmao characteristics>technocrat>green politics>situationist>libertarian socialist>Ansynd>Ancom
Christian Price
Basically at 10 got into politics and become a kind of Nader socdem. Then read communist manifesto and other stuff about socialism on Wikipedia and understand that post-scarcity can actually exist, though still a socdem in practice because human nature :^) Find this place 2 years ago when I'm 14 and become a Leninist, then read parts of Capital, Kropotkin, and Bakunin and become an anarcho-syndicalist. Then a couple months ago get into Bookchin and become Communalist
Jonathan Morales
It's not easy, but not impossible. I think it was easier a century ago because there was kind of an ideological vacuum. Now though, at least in the West, we have to overcome ideological conditioning that basically begins at birth. I've had some success just talking with people, especially those under 30. They know they're getting fucked and are starting to understand who is fucking them, but aren't sure what to do about it. Most are at that Bernie point of exploring alternate solutions to the status quo, but there are some that are more receptive to more radical alternatives.
19 Centreist > Liberal > Very Short Libertarian phase > anarchist > An-syn > An-comm/libertarian socialist
But now a feel kinda lost. I know I'm far left but I need to read more and learn more about the different ideologies and what they entail and how viable they actually are.
Kevin Cook
Christian conservative -> syndicate anarchist I was raised an Christian and I believed all that it taught. As I started to learn more perspectives from my friends and school I didn't believe in that crap anymore. The political compass put me way in the lower left corner, I was amazed I was around there, but now that I think about it I have always enjoyed things which are some sort of direct action.
Adam Edwards
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Parker Reed
23 Lolbert>Almost getting hung up in mainstream liberal politics>Ancom>Marxist/Communist
Michael Baker
UK Labourite > UK left-Labourite > Ragged Trousered Philanthropists tier state socialist > High School AnCom > non-aligned trot > relatively politically active autonomist
Jordan Butler
18
neoclassical libertarian—→ liberal socdem —-→ right-wing communist
Jace Perry
Try reading, stupid. I'm an edgy ignorant anarkiddie and even I'm somewhat consistent, my whole right-libertarian phase happened because of a misunderstanding of property rights.
Nolan Williams
no fascist understand neither fascism nor socialism tbqh.
Asher Hill
Almost 31. Commie→Liberal→Apolitical with Posadist characteristics
Capitalism doesn't work, Socialism doesn't work, no system will ever work because humanity was a mistake and the best we can do it's pray to an end to this misery.
Isaiah Turner
Amazing how most people have crazy ideological roller coaster rides but I've always been somewhat left-wing through my life due to the shitty stuff that's shown on British TV that I saw at a young age. It got really depressing seeing people starving, killing for religion or ethnicity and bombs being dropped in wars. I caught on pretty quick that their was something perversely wrong in the way the world functioned.
Brandon Jackson
same fam
25 years old, literally went from socdem → socialist that's it
Jack Williams
I'm turning 24 next month. If I had to describe my political road so far, I guess it would go like this: Anarchist → Apolitical edgy teenager → filthy social democrat in high school → Socialist → Ancom → Egoism I've felt fairly consistent so far. I never understood how someone could swing between left and right, especially multiple times.
Connor Bailey
To be honest I'm very much the same. I had pretty intelligent, working class, left-wing parents and I always found capitalist rationality (poor people deserve it; the constant threat of manufactured starvation makes us better people; the rich people who boss you around are morally superior &c.) really creepy.
It sounds odd, but I've always felt it's a bit weird that I've never really had the experience of being (coherently) right wing, or even 'apolitical'. I'm not sure if the internet-communists who became MLs after ditching the libertarianism they got watching Youtube have experienced some profound trajectory and I'm missing out.
mostly drawing influence from the italian current of left communism and german marxology
Jackson Diaz
If you define left/right as socialist/capitalist, then it doesnt heppen very often. But if you describe left and right more abstractly, there are forms of right wing socialism as well and its easier to imagine somebody swinging between ideologies
Gabriel Powell
24 years old. I never had a really defined ideology, but always have been leaning towards the left-libertarian side of the spectrum since I became interested in politics during high-school. I was more liberal before though, but even back then I was still interested in Marx and briefly interacted with the youth branch of the local communist party. I just didn't like the authoritarian stance of Marxism-Leninism and didn't know there were alternatives until I've read Debord and the Invisible Committee. Today I would say I'm an opportunist basically. I would sometimes vote for socdems, but I'm aware of their shortcomings (i.e. SYRIZA), and think a revolution has way more chances to bring a concrete radical change in society. However I also feel like most revolutionaries don't really know what we would do after such revolution and don't like the glorification of it (see Zizek and his "I would sell my mother into slavery to see V for Vendetta pt. 2" joke).
Aiden Stewart
Honestly though going from Fascism to the far-left isn't that unbelievable. Most people are fascist for social reasons ie racism/sexism. Getting a girlfriend or non-white friend can make people way less reactionary.
David King
Obamacrat (when I was in the 5th grade)>Libertarian>Socdem>Nazi (for like three days after I found Holla Forums)>Anarchist>Market Socialist>Marxist Leninist
Luis Sanders
Forgot my age 19
Robert Adams
I remember the Images of the Kosovo War as having a massive impact.
Ayden Carter
28 No preferance > uncommited democrat > libertarian > marxist
Jayden Cooper
Looking back i realise that i was M-l even before i knew what Marxism-Leninism was.
Matthew Johnson
Same Don't laugh too hard but my path to socialism began when my mother showed me a Michael Moore film Of course today I know Moore is full of shit but he is good for entry level socialism tbh
Luke Watson
26 I was a full on austrian school edgy libertarian up until I got to my twenties and from their on I got progressively more lefty especially after taking some time out to read stuff that didn't appear on the Mises institute or come out of Molyneux's mouth. I found that as I read more and started working at an actual real life job the more I came to detest capitalism. So now i'm a mutualist.
Brayden Turner
I really wasnt committed to any ideology before being socialist. "Anti political" moderate who fetishized Robin Hood and similar Chaotic Good characters, until I read Malcolm X's autobiography and discovered anarcho punk when I was 14. I am neither a black nationalist or an anarchist but I'm very sympathetic to both (communist anarchism and Huey Newton's black nationalism) and they were my introduction to politics outside of the shitty Ameriburger spectrum.
Now a non-denominational communist working through a lot of reading and seeing what I think.
20 y/o
Nathan Thomas
Liberal -> Libertarian -> leftist libertarian -> Weird State Capitalism Phase (DPRK worship ect) -> Left com -> Market socialist -> Leninist but with decentralized planning and workers councils.
Luke Lee
17 Liberal>socdem bernie "socialist">soviet fetishist>ancom for 2 months>libertarian marxist>classical marxist>leninist
Matthew Martinez
I'll be 23 the next month. Centre-right→Anarcho-individualist→Centre-right→Soft traditionalist→SocDem→Socialist (leaning towards Marxism-Leninism).
Workers ownership over the means of production does not single out mutual markets
Ryder Lopez
24 Right wing liberal → left wing liberal → socdem → anarchist → mutualist → anarcho-communist with survivalist characteristics and vaporwave aesthetics
Christopher Evans
So now the workers are exploiting themselves for profit and destroying the environment in the process. Good shit?
Eli Perez
IT'S A FUCKING T R A N S I T I O N A L S O C I A L I S T S O C I E T Y R A N S I T I O N A L
S O C I A L I S T
S O C I E T Y
Eli Robinson
That's not what Proudhon said. Now you're like Lenin with a fetish for markets.
Zachary Gray
18 Liberal (because of parents) –→ Edgy atheist (becuase of Youtube) –→ Progressive/Socdem (because of Bernie) –→ Left/Anacho-Communist (because of my interest in socialism that Bernie sparked)
David Garcia
That's not a political ideology.
John Hernandez
It was pretty much my ideology at the time. I just followed whatever the Youtube atheist community said.
I'm still an atheist (as in I don't believe in God) but it is no longer something I care about
Matthew Green
This. I personally feel it just shows you're desperately for something to believe in and will latch on to any Great Ideal that will provide meaning to your life.
Aiden Hughes
21 egoist-communist read the right to be greedy
Jose Long
I wasn't adressing anyone in specific and i described exactly what and how certain attituted are exposing the posters for being dumb bitches.
If you feel offended by it, then this is perfectly fine with me and very much intended. You should feel offended and also embarrassed about yourself.
In all honesty, if your first response to someone pointing out how much of an obvious faggot you are, without even pointing at or naming you, is to cry about how butthurt you are over it rather than some silent self-reflection, you should probably just kill yourself.
Asher Brown
Projection/I'm angry at my parents: the post :^) You're giving yourself too much credit claiming people are offended. It was just an unnecessary comment on your part. What you said could obviously be deducted by seeing an extreme ideology switch.
Easton Ortiz
19 lib - somewhat more rightwing lib - apolitical -anarkidd (that's not to diss all anarchists. it's just I was particularly stupid at the time and didn't know it) - some kinda christian communist - generally hopeless
I feel like I'm goin into another apolitical streak. for a little while I thought maybe leftcom theory was the way to go, but increasingly I feel like every tendency just gets annoying to deal with after a while. They all have their serious flaws and for each of them the worst flaw is their adherents. Honestly if I could just get a stable, enjoyable job and a qt wife I'd prefer that to all this commie shit, the problem is I'm not good at shit and women don't like me.
Samuel Hall
former libsoc, joined the populist right. come here to talk about socialism every now and then, but i see the movement as too subverted to do any good for proles these days. mostly a puppet movement for globalism and an edgy fashion statement for monastic postmodernists.
Aaron Russell
21 disgusting student
But college is free here so all you muh-blue-colar-realz-jobz fuckers can suck my educated balls
Luke Martin
Oh right Kid → Social democrat kid at 8 that questioned the use of money and ownership of the means of production by private individuals → Anarchist in edgy teen phase → Back to proto-marxism → Marxism → Marxism with lots of computers
Dylan Cooper
19
Nothing -> Socialist -> Leninist
James Carter
American liberal > clueless lolbert > ancom > leninist > currently interested in leftcom thought
Jaxson Cox
?
Aiden Walker
Theres people on here that rag anyone who studied because "itz bourgoies" or something.
Aiden Ross
this has to be b& otherwise piss of you retard
Jack Murphy
25 pre-14————————→25 Generic Liberal -> American Socialist (what i mean by this is, I identified as a socialist, but I had an American concept of what socialism was. So basically, I was a soc-dem with a boner for the Soviet Union. I was 14 at the time) -> Trotskyist -> DeLeon Syndicalist -> non sectarian Marxist Communist
Landon Thompson
wew lad
Angel Ward
Wow, that's stupid of them. Could be Holla Forums shitposting. Theory needs to be studied by anyone who has the opportunity.
Xavier Powell
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Oliver Sullivan
Lmao at the people itt who think they're superior for having rigidly stuck to left wing thought forever. Fucking grow up.
It helps to shift around, avoids becoming stagnant and ossified and lets you understand the opponent's views.
Brody Ross
True. Also, being from the south, that made it easier for me to convert or reach out to other southerners who lean right, in my experience.
Ryder Bennett
24 American
15 - 17 Conservative as a teenager 18 - Scandinavian characteristics liberal 20 : Read Capital, became socdem-ish 22 : Anarcho-Communist 24 : Not sure! Maybe someone can give advice.
Not spooked by the idea of taking state power. I'm a materialist, and can see some use in dialectics but don't hail it as some crystal ball. If asked, I say I'm a Marxist. Have critiques of Leninism but overall don't think it's worth ditching as a whole. Don't like socdem, and getting annoyed at anarchists who don't read any theory, including their own. Not into markets, worker's councils seem okay - but I need to look into them more. I use leftcom flag to look smarter and so I'm not dismissed by tankies/anarchists as one of the other whenever I have some critique.
After writing that all, really curious if anyone can provide some guidance/reading materials.
Bentley Diaz
20 liberal → marxist → ancom → individualist anarchist
Evan Morgan
56
Zionist -> National Minarchist -> Anarcho-primitiveist -> Jucheist -> Pan African Fascist -> Feminist/Queer social democrat -> Free market socialist 3rd world maoist
Andrew Morales
how could you possibly fuck that up?
Benjamin Cox
30 Burgerstani
Liberal -> Progressive Socialist -> A Leppo
I was here to determine if there was anything good. Nope.
I was a progressive because I believed in science and my own intellectual capabilities. I now realize that was youthful hubris. Scientists have agendas and are just as prone to group conformity thinking as the rest of us, and sometimes confirming everyone else's biases IS the recipe for YOUR success. The real world is messy, and letting little men with big egos battle out the needs of the many is far more efficient and successful at giving people what they NEED than doing science. As Dr. House says, "everyone lies". Everyone says that they value education, but no one wants to fund it. Liberals wax poetic about immigrants, who they move into poor, conservative neighborhoods because of the crime that those liberals claim immigrants don't commit. So, while you would like to believe that humans are capable of correctly directing an economy with scientific precision, you are really the other side of the coin that says the Egyptians needed alien help to build the pyramids.
Kayden Morales
Centrist→Libertarian→ Ancap→Ansyn→ Egoist Anarcho Individualism with NazBol characteristics
Thomas Roberts
You're not a true egoist. Nationalism is a spook
Noah Watson
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Daniel Foster
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Ayden Torres
Jebus Gris I hope this is satire.
Nicholas Ramirez
14
I listen to System of a Down
Brody Ramirez
15 Lolbert-Liberal=>Succdem=>Luxemburgist
Austin Gutierrez
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Connor Martinez
Do you fuckers actually do anything for your ideologies or do you just keep swapping around your twitter biography based on the last book you read?
Jordan Sullivan
Some of us do, yeah. Many of the people here however, like this place to have fun and feel intellectually enlightened meanwhile. Nothing wrong with that. But still, fucking do shit faggots. Read books sure, but apply the knowledge you have gained to make us all a nice FALC.
I actually used to post as a leftist on Holla Forums on 4chan back in like…2009? 2010? When it was still /news/, anyway. But it was a nazi echo chamber so I ended up leaving for a long time, but I just discovered this place and couldn't be happier.
I went from Obama democrat as a teen to socialist to full blown tankie in college, but I've kinda pulled back and ended up hoping against hope Bernie might win in the primaries. Democrats are spineless handmaidens to capitalism tho so here I am. Anyone wanna re-radicalize me?
I grew up in the country and holy fuck do they lure kids into right-wing ideas, it wasn't until I discovered the internet that I realized how bad capitalism has been.
Also I still consider myself a demsoc, but I usually just say I'm a socialist.
Gavin Turner
What do you mean? And what do you do for yours? Most of us enjoy reading, sharing pertinent lefty news. This place has helped me substantially, in being informed. I'm also teaching my parents/family what I've learned from here as well. I now live in another country, a country that embraces socialism, so I'm getting into their politics. I'm as politically active as I can be from far away from home. Mainly it entails keeping people up to date on government policies & what causes to work with.
Want to talk about it, champ?
Benjamin Ward
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Carter Parker
Stalin did nothing wrong.
James Cruz
The longer you stay, the happier you'll be. Welcome.
Jacob Morgan
18 "Live and let live">Utopian socialism>Eurosocialism>Anarcho-Communism>Mutualism>Geolibertarianism (libertarianism in the original sense, not the american bastardization)