Comes for immigrants

Fascist, by which you mean anti-liberal. Here's the thing: Liberalism is even more anti-communist than fascism, so how would it be in the public interest to pull you whiners out of the fire? They are simply more useful than you are. Enjoy.

Ah, the Eco list. So how many of those did you liberals do, and when will you be apologizing to us for them?

Giving more power to the government was only the start, fascism truly comes on someone comes and openly does what Trump is doing right now, or what Bannon does behind Trump

I know denial is a big thing for you, but here's how people who are in denial can realize it, get a CHECKLIST

What do the color of the X's mean?

the lgbt/hbtq community together with third wave feminists are the main reasons why the modern day "left" is dead.
they managed to subvert and turn the left into porky's greatest ally

Pretty sure liberals don't lynch commies m8

Literal Fake News for Liberals to pile on the pressure, get a fucking clue user.

You still haven't given a good explanation of why I should side with liberals who are anti-communist. What makes you believe you'd be missed?

No, that's what the pigs are for.

The liberal boogeyman is becoming bigger than Holla Forums

get a checklist instead of being asshurt about liberals and whining about them

you're fucking retarded m8

This guy makes posts every day. Is he a false-flag from Holla Forums?

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Because Holla Forums, nobody said anything about siding with liberals ;^)

Calling a fascist out merely means you have the intelligence to see it, but instead you are so asshurt about liberals you much rather ignore reality if liberals point out to something right

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What? We've been saying all liberalism is just a precursor to fascism forever. Trump is just the unabated, uncensored, ultimate end-product of something we've been saying has been going on forever now.

the liberal "left" will never become communists because they are perfectly happy with the current status quo, they don't really have a problem with Obama or Hillary, aslong as they push equal wage laws and gay marriage.
best chase scenario is that they are pro-Bernie but he is just a boring socdem.

Sorry it becomes confusing when you have all these Holla Forumstards posting pretending to be communists and saying Trump isnt fascist.

Even fidel castro admitted he was wrong about gays retard, you are literally idpol.

Please kys

Don't you mean radical liberals? :^)

Radical left organizations across the US have doubled or tripled in membership since Trump was elected.

You don't know what you're talking about, at all.

wew, lad. S&H

obvious Holla Forums infiltrator, you need to brush up on your talking points

we don't accept your idpol just because you're against idpolers with more colorful hair, now fuck off

If it doesn't affect my 2d waifus, then I don't really care

Oh look it is pol generalizing and idpoling.

t. Former liberal

Hey Holla Forums, keep trying to start infighting ;^)

Fascist want pic related, you are not safe, feel free to ignore everything that is happening, don't whine when nobody helps once they come for you

Now ask yourself, would this happen if Hillary won ?

now ask yourself, what's the point of this stupid question?

That's an entirely separate point, you didn't address the argument at all.

The idea that less liberals would become socialists under Hillary has nothing to do with the idea that liberals can or cannot become socialists in the first place.

Oh, so bombing the fuck out of the third world is no big deal but when 1st world gays are in trouble, that's when shit's gotten too real.

pretty much this tbh family.

Out of sight, out of mind.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=u3H3aoBjnxM

Yeah for most people that is when it gets real and that is why it is the best time to push and spread communism, because some liberals see the inefficiency of their party and even though they might know the problems of capitalism have never thought of a better system like communism thus they can be converted.

Ignore the Holla Forumsacks who start identity politics, just falseflaggere to keep people fragmented

You know who also didn't require bakers to make wedding cakes for gay couples?

Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, Thatcher.. it's one of those things every fascist did.

They do this to divide us, people can't be unified when the government doesn't make it law that bakers have to bake guy wedding cakes. They divide us so they can give us helicopter rides, Steve Bannon was a helicopter pilot after all.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with not wanting Islam anywhere near the country or society

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Whatever shithole you came from, go back there

Can comrades quit with the idpol, pol, and cointelpro accusations for one fucking second? I genuinely can't tell if Holla Forums has picked up on derailing by calling comrades Holla Forums and using idpol in the same way or if redditors or new friends are doing this same thing. Getting frustrated either way, please lay out a coherent argument instead of strawmanning.

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I'm gonna keep repeating this until I see other people pointing it out every time it comes up - Trump being so brazen about this shit is allowing liberals to see problems that have been around forever. If there's a problem here it's that they think it's all on Trump and that replacing him with a democrat will fix it.

Simple, anyone who unironically uses idpol is Holla Forums or cointelpro, no real communist focuses on identity that much.

The issue is some people here are so severely triggered by liberals they can't think rationally about anything liberals did or are connected to

This is false you retard, fake news, do you understand it's a propaganda piece fed to a retard.

Thoughtful post, one of the few in this thread. I've experienced this same reaction by some liberal friends of mine that are starting to realize that signing thhe NDAA of 2012 to legalize propaganda and the furtherance of drone strikes around the globe aren't the actions of a Nobel Peace prize winner or a leftist.

Man all this idpol, haven't you realized this doesn't work here Holla Forums ?

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Lol, trump had fascist undertones since the campaign now he simply showed his true colors

It's probably a combo of everything. Holla Forums (and langley posters) are trying to learn how to fit in and getting better. Meanwhile, newfags from reddit are doing the same but are newer at it.

PROTIP TO NEWFAGS
You kind of have to learn by imitation on imageboards. That's how the culture works. But take heed that since the board has grown recently, the people you're imitating have a significant chance of being other newfags who themselves are still learning by imitation. The more the ratio is tilted toward newfags vs oldfags, the more you're going to see newfags imitating newfags imitating newfags and so on, such that the original culture has been all but lost. It's the same thing as a game of telephone except instead of being linear it happens in a great big tangled network.

This obsession with the word reactionary makes you look like an r/soc faggot. Go away.

are you me?

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says the nazbol

So there's no room for legitimate criticism of idpol now? I feel like you're gas lighting me tbh. I agree with other comrades that there are major issues with liberal protesters uniting over idpol rather than class consciousness. There should be space for frequent to occasional criticism without strawmanning.

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Seems like you don't either.

If someone's gaslighting you, you can tell objectively based on their behavior. You can figure it out. How you feel doesn't reveal whether you're being manipulated.

He's right though, the constant attempts to inject identity into everything is a government program.

Just fuck off and don't post.

Yeah except for actually being a fascist dictator. Go back to dying your hair, xir.

No u

Explain how Nationalism is not identity politics, especially if its ethnic nationalism(since I understand not all National Bolsheviks are ethnonationalists, but I still think civic and cultural nationalism is idpol of a more mild form).

Gay marriage is an issue for the people, not the courts, marriage of two men is absurd in a capitalist society and every one that has passed as it it a contract of property above all else for the provision of children.

Baking a cake for a queer wedding, nobody should have to bake a cake for any wedding, it's the most retarded, low hanging fruit of any SJW nonsense out there, entrrap those with different opinions on marriage, omg I got a NADSI.

Lastly, the story is made up, address that, you are spreading Liberal propaganda for free.

What is the benefit of idpol to take it seriously, I can understand talking about it rationally to a degree, but it this nazi tier "all people from x group are evil" logic which benefits none one and harms communism by dividing people.

But you suggested that idpol should sometimes be discussed rationally, the thing is the same goes for this this that are connected to liberals such as calling Trump fascist.

As you have seen people will emotionally jump away to anything touched by liberalism whenever right or wrong instead of rationally discuss it.
For example you have seen certain people here deny the fascist points with "omg liberals say the same. It is false and fake and you shouldn't discuss it because the same subject has been used by liberals.

And I don't know why some people here are so severely triggered by liberals that they would side with fascists, liberals are bad but will never be as bad as fascists

It's already been explained dozens of times.

smells like bullshit to me

How the fuck is this fair?

When will nazbol realizes they are as bad as nazis and migrate to Holla Forums?

Again, it's not discussed because it is government propaganda used to crush dissent.

so to be clear here hitler in 1933 was not a fascist?

Noone cares about your olfactory hallucinations, pleb.

Pic related.

Nobody cares about your petulant nationalist bitching either.

Hmm really makes you think Holla Forums.

t. Holla Forums

Please create a new account at reddit.com and evade your ban at r/socialism.

Identity politics isn't just when people talk in terms of identities. The civil rights movement wasn't idpol. Idpol is when you pit different identities against each other. Civil rights isn't idpol because it's an identity vs. the system, not that identity vs. another identity. Nationalism isn't idpol unless it's "my people are great; other people are ruining us, reeee". Nazism is idpol. Nationalism is not inherently idpol. Nations and culture already exist as more or less cohesive groups of people, so it's understandable that some lefties want to use these tools to help accomplish revolution. Being an anarchist I don't think that will accomplish much, and it will keep people trapped in ideology that runs counter to the ultimate goal of communism. But just because I think nationalism is unhelpful doesn't mean I think it's necessarily idpol.

Literally saying people can't be communists because they are gay

Anyone that posts Trump is a fascist is obviously a /pol /infiltrator.

Seriously WTF ?

Nazbols are the sword against liberal D&C.

This. Thanks based ancom. It gets tiring.

lol nice try

Gays can't be communists if they are retarded

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Christ, fashies will subversively take power away from or through Trump and some of you fucks will end up allying with them because muh liberals.

Yea we all fucking hate liberals but fashies will legit kill you. Liberals will die of their impotence

Pure ideology

Nice try

Neoliberal shill detected.

Go back to revleft

Left-idpol like muh privilege theory and post-colonialism might be cancerous, but at least it's pushed by (even if false) some theory instead of pure feelz > realz and "realpolitik" (feelz > realz with extra ideology).

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This image and indeed entire argument is retarded.

first thing, Holla Forums predated Trump by a long shot. We're not changing our name just cause that clown won it. Secondly, why would Holla Forums NOT support a candidate who is acting on at least some of Holla Forums's ideas? The word you're looking for is contrarianism. Sure, this is a large part of it. Hell, I told 4pol a year ago that they'd soon be left of revleft. Some of them will. Finally, sure. Trump is president. But the vast majority of the worlds media and many polititians in the US and elsewhere are deeply offended by this fact. Trump's politics are, for the time being, beyond the pale in most western nations.

I know some of you have heard the word backlash before. I know cause I've warned here about it. So keep it up. Keep talking down to the millions who voted Trump or Brexit. Keep telling yourself that this is just a dream and that normal service will soon be restored. You're only making us stronger.

t. pleb

kys

Nazbol being dumb af as always

never ends well

Riddle me this then cockfag.

THIS
Thank you! I thought I was going insane!

Is it me or have trump shills increased lately? Must be bored because he isn't liked or loved outside with alternative reality in his head

Yes, it can. Your point? The workers of the world have no country in the literal sense: they are at the mercy of its ruling class, which does have a material allegiance to plots of land for the purpose of dividing and conquering.

Every "ironic" or "pragmatic" nationalis on this board is a complete mongoloid who is literally incapable of crossing the feelz barrier whenever he is asked to justify is baseless autism.

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Oh look it's Holla Forums

Really fired up those neurons there lad.

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in truth it could possibly cause a person or persons to reflect

Thought so.

What ?1!? i wont be able to watch cuck porn?!?!? i hate Not Socialism now, what book would be best to introduce me to communism? it's really the only valid ideology.

Are you 14, or just literally autistic?

how much of this board is Holla Forums trolls? must be at least 60% right?

IT KEEPS HAPPENING!!!

like 1/3rd

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can we just say authoritarian capitalism?
authoritarian oligopoly capitalism is even more accurate but a mouthful

Why the "at least" ?

Stop being philosophically illiterate, you are now being the leftist version of this.

youtube.com/watch?v=vZQJFbrqjUY

Are we brothers? Have the big one.

isn't the definition of realpolitik like

reals > feels

Waaaah! We're oppressed unless you have to make us cock wedding cakes.

Like you're any more oppressed

The board has become bigger, some Holla Forumsrates also "converted" so Holla Forums is threatened, espeicially since the idea of communism is starting to spread, even in 4pol people occasionally talk about it.

Every political position could be called feels because they wouldn't exist without incentive, which is feels.

Middle class legbeard academic "theory" is, at the very least, still theory.

Within the discourse of what is pragmatic within hegemonic porky discourse.

Realpolitik is a term always used by the heads of state of neoliberal countries to say "uh, we gotta be pragmatic here", and it's practically always raised to wipe away deeper criticism at foreign and fiscal policy, ergo often being the justification for imperialism and austerity measures. It's only realz > feelz if you lower yourself to thinking the only "real" form of praxis is to be limited to what the prevailing capitalist ideology permits you to do to permeate it, meaning it's ultimately feelz > realz because it's riddled with what the ideal incarnation of capitalist policy ought to look like.

It's literally nothing.

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Not a Trump shill though he was and remains better than Clinton. I'm happy to admit that Trump's goyism will be an issue. But he is capable of doing some good even if unintentionally.

You want the real, honest truth? Yes, I'm Holla Forums. But I'm on other forums dismissed as a Putinbot or Russian shill. My primary concern is the BS the US has pulled pretty much my entire life. If Trump puts and end to this, even by accident or incompetence then he's good in my book. I stand primarily against the MIC. I'm surprised how many of you seem to have sided with it cause some guy shat on a bunch of your liberal ideals.

It's like you've never seen a run of the mill right wing populist before.

Isn't discarding something that works within the capitalist structure because it was invented by ideological opponents the ultimate form of feels over reals?

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Trump isn't a fascist, but mainly(not solely) due to the fact that he supports too much deregulation of the economy to be one. So him not being one isn't a positive as far as we are concerned.

tbh he's only better than clinton if the accelerationism memes pay off

What is theory and why is it inherently a good thing?

If so, the nazi's racial theory was at least theory.

Top bankers and investors make up the majority of his administration. The economy is already regulated and centralized: all its veins go directly through the white house.

Stop using Liberal definitions of Fascism.

It's bullshit invented to cover it's true form: collapsing Capitalism that resorts to openly gangster politics to keep power.

so trump is a fascist?

the usual "everything is capitalism, because it is" bare bones circular ideology

No, he isn't.

Capitalism in US is not even being threatened by anything at the moment.

You missed my point.

Not what I said. Just we've had a few arguments over the past two years about this topic with you lot often falling back to 'just cause its in a book doesn't real'. Except when the book says something in support of your case right?

Because trump isn't literally Hitler doesn't mean he isn't a fascist, his actions and his administration suggests that.

the great marxist question of the 20th century: is every fascist actually capitalist or is everything capitalist actually fascist?

Some books are stupid, some are smart. Such cases.

cultural marxism isn't a conspiracy theory but an analysis of the cultural marxist system

There's a difference between discarding the reality of capitalism and what it implies and discarding all ways of interacting outside of capitalism because acting within capitalism is always the most "realpolitik" thing to do. You'll see that neolibs raise the realpolitik meme at even the mildest social democratic reforms, because as I've said it's not so much an argument against irrationality as it is an argument against rationally doubting the prevailance of neoliberalism. Ever heard a politician sperg about realpolitik to argue we should end austerity? No? Thought so, neither have I.

A self-consistent framework; a world-view that can justify itself with its own hypotheses and conclusions.

It's a good thing if you want to convince others who do have theory. Without a proper theoretical framework of reference to argue your cause, you're reduced to vapid observational thinking and/or relying on your feelz instead of any realz.

It might have been, if it weren't revealed that it used Victorian-era pseudo-science like phrenology and racialism to argue for itself. It was ultimately pure feelz over realz.

You can provide a proper rebuttal with just about anything that isn't feelz > realz; no need to auto-deride yourself so low that you don't even try to use something like metaphysics to approach a theoretical conception of the world. Just be consistent, you pathetic and low energy faggot. Sad!

What does this even mean?

cmon fam

you know you want some of that circular ideology

don't be a square

wew

Most of these have been checked for decades.

Bullshit. Clinton was more of the same. That is the neo-con/neo-lib alliance that has dominated since the 90s. Trump may not put a stop to it. But Clinton backed it 100%.

take that back

No. It actually does. We have a definition of Fascism and US doesn't fit. Not for the lack of trying, of course.

The question has been settled in 1933.

please take your facebook tier liberal normie memes and fuck off.
He's not a fascist.

jacobinmag.com/2017/01/fascism-socialism-trump-resnikoff-think-progress/

more of the same is superior to shit getting worse unless as previously mentioned it ushers in things getting better

Gultural Marxism is basically a Marxian analysis extended to analyze how culture re-enforces the established order. A result of this analysis was the development of tools for attacking the cultural hegemony.

We know, and you never take answers for what they are. When you get BTFO you always come back with yet another feelzy-motivated amateur blogpost to try again, and will always fail.

No, I'm fairly consistent in demanding a proper justification for anything, and so was Marx. He didn't take "because capitalism is evil" for granted to justify the communist horizon; he used philosophical materialism to argue his case.

Feel free to justify the former and quantify the latter any time now, buddy.

Yeah, if you want to convince more than your average prole, completely separated from knowing his conditions of existence, then you'll need to justify your realz with more than feelz.

Have you ever checked yourself?

Couldn't you say realpolitik is the neoliberal equivalent of the dialectic though? I notice that the socialists with nationalist characteristics don't even particularly tend to care about muh flag and muh heritage, but are using this for propaganda purposes and to hijack populist sentiment. At least this tends to be the case with the ones that aren't Holla Forums attempting a 10-dimensional redpilling.

you need to filter stirnirfags and tripfags. thats all.

Nope.

I.e. bullshit that uses Marx to look more impressive.

Post-colonial theory, white are ebil and deserve to pay for what they have done. Just look at the state of Africa today. This is all the white man's fault.

Racialist theory, Genetics are king. Your genes determine your potential in this world. Genes vary across ethnic groups resulting in different intelligence across populations. Just look at Africa.

One of these is generally accepted, ora t least treated with respect and rigour. The other gets you blacklisted.

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the problem i have with that definition is that it means someone can only be called fascist under those very specific circumstances. are neo-nazi goons that want to commit genocide not fascists? if they aren't then i think your definition is too narrow.

Please either research a concept before you try to insert it into something or ask someone to explain it to you.

Yes, it's almost as if nationalism is more of a hatred towards how current standards of one's nation don't fit the ideal, and that nationalists thereby really show that they're not just like populists who fall into idealizing their country, but fall into the useful idiocy of praising an ideal that was never there, completely in concert with the bourgeois forces that need nationalism to sustain the hegemony of capital.

Sometimes, autism is just autism. No need to look beyond the arch-statement of ideology that is "uh, well yeah nation states are completely bourgeois, but…".

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fuck, wrong link

jacobinmag.com/2016/12/trump-hitler-germany-fascism-weimar-democracy/

i know i was just kidding >

I disagree. I suspect that once the dust has settled, many of the people from the nations of Trump's blacklist will come to the same conclusion. Sure they don't get to try the america dream. But chances are they won't be bombed back to the stone age on a whim either. Except Iran. My patience for Trump runs out as soon as he jumps through that kosher hoop.

Fascism is to be seen as a historical last resort by bourgeois powers to save capitalism from its temporal contradictions. Trump is not a fascist and will not be one; without any opposition to our current neoliberal capitalism there is no need for any more severe last resorts. Trump signals the end of left-liberal democratic capitalism and the beginning of a more authoritarian neoliberalism, akin to China, which is not fascism.

It actually makes me sad that a lot of people think the West is seriously trying to help Africa with development aid and it's just their own fault it fails.

it opened up possibilities from outside the neoliberal consensus world order that was only heading in one direction and it wasn't anywhere actually left

ftfy. You don't even know what you're saying and resort to baby talk about "feels" and "reals", but you think your glorified book club has made you to smart for the dumb proles, even when we've read the same books.

Yes. It's called "having definition".

Not necessarily.

Why should definition of Fascism include "everything I don't like"?

I had a discussion about Bernie recently on Holla Forums. It was surreal.

So they are formulations of ideology. I don't see why a formulated ideology is inherently better than an ideology that isn't.

How does ideology being given a formulation place it in some higher level of reality? Are you a wizard?

If a scientific base is what constitutes realz, than any and all feminist and marxist theory is feelz for not following from scientific facts. (Which nothing does, but you don't seem to understand the is-ought problem)

Think deeply.

Cultural marxism is not the result of hidden plots but is instead a system, because that is how I define it. Being defined as a system, it can therefor not be a conspiracy theory. Cultural marxism is the application of marxist ideology to culture, which marxists do, it therefor exists.

The only reason you deny it's existence -on grounds that you don't apply to your own ideology- is because you feel like the term marxism is taken away from you.

I have no idea about context of your discussion, but I can't imagine any that would not make this statement look incredibly retarded.

I want pol to leave

I would say it's the opposite, because it covers up the true, implicit ideology with explicit formulations. It's the sort of thinking that makes one say "not an argument!" to anything that isn't a sterile "if x, than y, than z" sort of abstraction that ultimately has very little to say about the actual nature of politics, morality or society.

Based Xijn with the bants and actually consistent Marxism as usual.

Meh, even if so, American liberals deserve fascism at this point. They're the worst

realzy? Where do I appeal to emotion? As for BTFO, I disagree. We've been having this argument longer that that little text has been doing the rounds. The thing that seperates CM from CB is that CM was a term used by leftists in academia way before it was used to attack a set of ideas loosely related.

Much of the radical 'leftist' shit we speak about on post colonialism or radical feminism comes from the CM analysis that basically 'discovered'; that culture capitalist system. I accept this is true to a degree. But I don't see undermining tradition and cultural norms in the west as the way to achieve anything besides division. By embracing radical, often anti-western theory and ideology, you further alienate the very people your movement was meant to help.

This is PRECISELY why Troomp won.

as we're discussing here

But your idea on what realpolitik is is strawmanned to begin with. The reason nobody has ever heard a politician blame realpolitik for not enacting social reforms is because it's not a word politicians say and is used to describe the actions that they do, which is basically pragmatic opportunism to enforce the status quo.
Neoliberals have realpolitik as a precise method to enforce the status quo, whereas dialectics is precise method to change the status quo.

Stop overreacting and blowing shit out of proportion, leave that to Holla Forums and the drumpftards.

Like pottery.

This sounds retarded and pulled straight from your verbose ass, but if I were to take a guess you are literally saying the same thing in different words.

The only way to justify your ideology as real is to first actually check it, and then pit it against other ideologies (which is what Marxism's historical perogative is, and what it is born of). If you directly admit that you do not see this as the basic way forward to justifying one's theories, it says a lot more about yours than it would imply about mine (Marxism).

wew.

Where is said system?

I guess world Jewry and the illuminati is real because I define the conspiracy as systemic and not a conspiracy.

Define Marxist ideology.

No, I mostly like to call the various vague things you appear to group together (feminism, sociology, post-structuralism, post-colonialism, etc.) by their actual names instead of the conspiratory buzzword you found for them.

Not entirely. Marx essentially founded one of the most prominent branches of sociology, the Social-Conflict approach. This understanding of society is the ideological touchstone behind what is considered 'Cultural Marxism' by the right.

I want reddit to leave.

We had ComIntern Congress in 1933, the one that represented opinion of millions of people and dozens of parties across the globe. Definition of Fascism was given there, not by your Liberal propaganda machine in 2016.

marxists.catbull.com/reference/archive/dimitrov/works/1935/08_02.htm

Developed ideology is not equal to dogmatic thinking. If you literally can't understand what terms mean, you don't have any ideology - because you can't even convey the meaning of your words.

Why are you trying to accuse others of autism when your argument is literally that it's possible to strip all emotional content from thought, a state resembling the purest of all autisms? Literally just a calculator processing arbitrary equations. But hey at least you can write a 5000+ word essay trying to pretend you're consistent and worth trying to convince, not like those "mongoloids".

Fucking great post.

When the U.S. was at peak racism in the 60's, it still wasn't fascist. It takes more than that to make a fascist state, you mook.

Sure sounds like fascism

Universities.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_long_march_through_the_institutions

Yeah trump

You can avoid realz with more than just emotion. Non-existent things like the illuminati are not emotions, but are likewise not realz, just like cultural Marxism (unless you have some totally real declassified documents and artifact-riddled jpegs to attempt to prove otherwise).

Literally the only instance one can find of a non-ironic utterance of cultural Marxism comes from Jameson, in one book and for a single subject. If conspiratars hadn't coopted the term for a meme conspiracy, it might have been a useful descriptor for less orthodox use of dialectical materalist (Marxist) philosophy, like for sociocultural analysis, but as it stands it holds the same memetic value as ever.

Provide something of substance instead of your feelz and people might start listening.

No, Trump won because the liberal left at large fails to appeal to appeal to any working class individual anymore, in large part because it failed in practice too: inthesetimes.com/article/19410/clinton-trump-and-the-triumph-of-ideology

There's way more examples of such ineffectual left wing spergouts if you want to collect them, e.g.: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Weatherman_actions
(Just ask if you want more, the infantile left has a strong tradition in doing nothing while pretending it's radical)

Now argue how this is in any way relevant at all in contemporary discourse and how it is impactful.

Verily gave me conniptions there.

wtf i love nationalism now?!!

I can post pictures too.

Hello Stalin mod, can you maybe create a Trump general and close the other threads? There are 3 shitting up the front page right now

Here's another one of favorite ineffectual left wing spergouts: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiani_Metropolitani

Xijn's a mod?

I am not mod. And you should ask here:

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He's not Holla Forums, he's a tankie. Look them up & you'll understand how you could easily make that mistake. Stalin-stache tripfag has been around for a while.

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OK, kid.

Then give me evidence for marxist theory that does not beg the question by assuming the marxist model as a priori.

No, that's what you are doing by claiming ideology is realz when it references scientific studies that are deemed correct.

In your frontal lobe.

That's exactly how capitalism, patriarchy, white supremacy and all the other conspiracies from marxist theory are made real, by declaring them system.

And so are marxists who attack traditional gender roles, an act that is defined as cultural marxism.

I can't define marxist ideology because words do not gain their meaning from other words, they aren't their definitions.

If you contest this, define a cow.

All overlapping with marxism and descending from marxism. Cultural marxism is a buzzword because marxism is depended upon it's own language game, the use of cultural marxism by it's opponents violates this.

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Writes itself

This picture is kind of funny because Tankies typically aren't fans of the Khmer rouge, only weird primitivists and turd positionists are. Often such individuals are eccentric to say the least from my experience.

Actually make an argument or point, or you'll continue to get shit on.

True, I've never seen any defend Khmer or Pol Pot.

We only support Khmer rouge because they had the right idea about the """intellectuals""" buried into liberal society like ticks, as we can see from this thread. They're trash.

I did. You just didn't understand that it's not possible to strip emotion from thought, and so can't conceive of a response. However it isn't, rendering the baby talk false dichotomy Lelnin hat and Spurdo use embarrassing at best. I don't know how I could make it any clearer.

Don't tempt me.

i mean strictly speaking he's more of a neo-fascist than a proper fascist because anti-leftism is not a significant part of his politics, but that's probably being a bit pedantic

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It's even easier if you're on opiates, tbh, but that's both a blessing & a curse.. Btw, I wasn't that person you were replying to, just popped in

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I mean all rational thoughts at least have some affective polarity, as in what you care about. If you didn't care at all, you wouldn't bother to think about it. I was laughing at these faggots who consider themselves "to smart for proles" having this essential insight elude them as they talked up some self-aggrandizing rhetoric yet again. I just enjoy watching the maggots squirm when confronted with their reflection.

This is how any theoretical framework is upheld in discourse: by upholding it as valid until in discourse it is proven to be flawed or correct. You've assumed a theoretical worldview in which a conspiracy theory against all that is rational(tm) and right(c) is systematically threatened. If you weren't a boneheaded mongrel, you would have taken arguments against your fantasies for granted, but you haven't. Are you a cultural Marxist?

You keep wew'ing yourself when you do this. Stop it.

Aargh!

Yes, with proper justifications. Which is why these narratives still exist, and why those who support them call their theoretical disciplines by what they are: feminism, post-structuralism, etc., and not your favorite buzzword.

How convenient that you never have to justify this.

Are those against this cultural pre-industrialists then? Do you ever realize how retarded you are?

kek.

Quadrupedal herbivore mammal of the B. taurus classification. This functions in discourse; we can exchange concepts using this in discourse. Be careful not to become a post-modernist by avoiding functional discourse in exchange for feelz-fueled logical positism.

[citation needed]

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If your next reply doesn't contain a little more effort, don't expect any more replies.

LGBT is a choice.
You're not born that way.
You're fucking sick degenerates.
Children shouldn't be allowed anywhere near you.
Kill yourselves.

But it's possible to make a conscious effort not to appeal to pure emotion, you lazy faggot.

spooky

You should remember: both USSR and USA were interested in vilifying Cambodia, while Khmer Rouge itself never got a chance to properly speak up. I'm pretty sure there is quite a lot of buried skeletons of the wrong kind that got blamed on Pol Pot.

Is it?

Kampuchea, of course.

Yesss. Everyone else shut up. Xijn's about to go full apologetics.

At this point nazbol might be cointelpro because of how hard they drive to divide us with identity politics

You're alright, Nazbol, my bad. I should've gone back further in that comment chain.. I was being reactionary.

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I will not. I do proper explanations only if I researched topic a bit - which is not the case, when it comes to Kampuchea.

Everyone knows that the famines were caused by American carpet bombing anyway.

Is this the point at which you properly follow the dialectic of feelz and kill yourself for the good of Brother Pot?

It's fun to reply because it invokes more spergouts, but I'm gonna have to set the bar here for myself before I wew too hard.

I ask again, are you underage or do you have actual autism?

OH NOES HE'S GONNA GAS ALL THE FAGGOTS HITLER NAZI

Can you at least explain in short why the USSR opposed the Khmer Rouge and sided with Vietnam against the Khmer-PRC pact? Also, is it true that the US supported the Khmer Rouge or is that just bourgeois propaganda?

Also seems counter-intuitive to support the Khmer's killing of anyone too intelligent as a Marxist-Leninist, which is a theory developed through a lot of Marx, Lenin and Stalin and their intellect.

Now if you're really had this argument with me before you'd know there are half a dozen book of the topic that predate Jameson.

pages.gseis.ucla.edu/faculty/kellner/essays/culturalmarxism.pdf

Fuck that's a diplomatic way of saying 'actively shits on and derides'.

Argue what? The proof is in the pudding. like 50% of sociologists and social scientist are self-identified 'leftists' (though admittedly what they mean by this can vary wildly). Universities are THE breeding ground for 'counter hegemonic' ideas. It is relevant in that a certain subset of ideas are promoted (liberalsim), while anything against the grain is ignored or glossed over. There are a bunch of taboos in modern science, mainly around genetics and intelligence. This is a direct result of political correctness. PC is one tool that leftists use to control discourse on campus.

You're coming across as desperate.

Telling americans it is 'racist' to demand jobs for americans first is exactly what we're talking about. But I'm sure you know this.

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Yeah, Lenin never postured as an anti-racist, did he?

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Lenin literally wanted global communism

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_delimitation_in_the_Soviet_Union

Nah, the USA was pretty keen on turning a blind eye to the Khmer Rouge's crimes based solely on the fact that they were anti-Vietnamese. Heng Samrin did nothing wrong.

Yes, by the same retards who reinvoked the cultural Bolshevism meme in a new coat.

Conspiracy theorists and their ineffectual writings do not provide support for the actual existence of conspiracy theory.

Yes, you may strengthen this by calling it "actively shitting and deriding". Semantics. Left-liberals failed to provide a proper alternative to the failed carbon copy that preceded them (Obama in the US, Hollande in France, etc.). The election of the likes of Trump signals a healthy shift away from this ineffectual stagnation of politics. Read the article.

Literally the arch-statement of ideology.

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Furthermore, "leftist", both in conventional political orientation and in contemporary significance, can mean anything from anarchist dumpster diver to your average liberal (which is what it generally implies when someone says they are left wing), something which is even debatably not left wing.

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Who'd have thought that thinking really hard about things generally produces ideas that challenge status quo and status quo thinking? Is this your magical proof for the existence of a conspiracy theory?

Woah, who'd have thought that liberal ideology prevails under a prevailingly liberal society and liberal economic system? Made me scratch the noggin there, PoMo man.

More like the complete discrediting of racialist theories in scientific and theoritcal discourse: youtube.com/watch?v=teyvcs2S4mI. I bet the inexistence of phrenology in today's biological discourse is also the cause of cultural Marxism and not its pseudo-scientific basis, right?

Yes, left-liberals like to use post-colonial and feminist discourse to entrench their ideas via identity politics.

I'm going to repeat myself again: if your next post does not have at least a few proper citations and tangible evidence to support itself, don't expect a reply.

Revisionist doctrine of "peaceful co-existence". Once you stop treating Capitalists as primary enemy, you no longer treat other Socialists as allies.

This is why ComIntern had an agreement about support of any Soviet states (not USSR alone at the time) regardless of their retardation. And this is why dogmatic Marxists don't want to badmouth Best Korea: primary enemy is Capitalism.

Or do you want specifics? Khmers wanted help, Moscow was not giving any, so they went to China. Moscow went ballistic and decided to reduce Chinese influence in region. That's my current opinion.

First time I hear about it, tbh. Is this about Zbigniew Brzezinski claiming that he manipulated China and Thailand into supporting Khmer Rouge?

Which is why you made yours unfalsifiable, and then assumed correct according to it's a priori.

No, it's what you are doing with your feelz vs realz pure ideology crap. You don't even understand the is-ought problem.

If patriarchy exists because of the wage cap then cultural marxism exists because of gay marriage. This ultimately comes down to nothing but your sense of violation by what you as the hijacking of your language game.

You believe that everyone and their cousin is bourgeois in one way or the other, bourgeois culture, bourgeois philosophy, bourgeois art, bourgeois democracy, bourgeois morality.. and so on and so on, without ever providing any evidence of this, just assuming it by definition.

All I do is point to the origin of cultural marxism, marxists, for it is they who started SJW feminism, gender ideology, post-colonial theory and all the other conspiracies-of-everything that replace the bourgeois with either whites or men (with still being tools of the bourgeois in the end).

Isn't this exactly the sort of culture marxists support and have worked towards, didn't marxist academics wrote in favour of it, didn't marxist parties support it?

You don't need lacan for this conclusion. If not, explain to me how words are able to refer to other words while not being meaningless circular thought-forms that don't refer to the outside world.

That's not a definition of a cow, it's a taxonomic categorization.

Don't act like you don't know the history of those theories.

Might want to go google the names I provided.

Dworkin

is an academic who works at the intersection of "third generation" critical theory in the tradition of the Frankfurt Institute for Social Research, or Frankfurt School and in cultural studies in the tradition of the Birmingham Centre for Contemporary Cultural Studies, also known as the "Birmingham School". He has argued that these two conflicting philosophies are in fact compatible.

fugging fashists…

nyet. Your 'failed to appeal' suggests omission by the left. The reality has been more vindictive.

Dunno. Something I read that had a breakdown of professores by school and politics. Social scences were by far the most 'lefty' at over 50%. A quick google suggests that I've lowballed it too.

washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/01/11/the-dramatic-shift-among-college-professors-thats-hurting-students-education/?utm_term=.b3e82f42badf

Though I accept your point about the 'broad church' nature of the left.

You're suggesting that teh prevailing consensus (on a social issue) is the objective truth? How very positivist of you…

I assume this is as close as you can come to admitting I have a point?

Holla Forums, please.

I'll live. You're asking me to prove a claim that I've not made. I'll pass.

Nice redditspacing faggot.

You haven't give any of that yourself.

I have a lebbit. I'm mod of a board. I pretend to be a socialist and liberalpost. Some or all of this may be untrue.

but my user name includes the word Fabian

What don't you understand? We arent liberals go back to Holla Forums

marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/may/10.htm
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1913/crnq/2.htm#v20pp72-023

Well you say this but most of you get salty when the sacred cows of liberalism are challenged. Shit is what shit does my friend.

is this a new filter?
stirner

Trump in our eyes is another liberal
you have no idea where you are

No, just a resident retard.

Please don't feed the wildlife.

Truly we are n the bizarre universe

Lurk more.

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You're thinking economic liberal no? I'm clearly talking about social liberal. Even then, Trump holds some socially liberal positions. But because he has spoken out against the current liberal points of virtue of multi-kult and feminism, he is literally Hitler.

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We might be laughing at the memes now but this is seriously, he literally fulfills fascist memes like the op's "first they came for x"

Sounds pretty cozy and DPRK-tier to me.

I mean at this point Trump is pretty much turning into the ideal Communist leader, I don't know why folks here aren't more excited about this.

At least you are using shitpost flags

Holla Forumstardation intensifies

Got cancelled, supposedly due to Kushner
They're gonna wait for the SCOTUS pick and Sessions

Why do liberals only care about fascism when a right wing conservative is in charge?

So postponed at best, why do they need sessions? Is it that immoral and unconstotutnal that need him to defend the fascist banon's order?

He's gonna the AG fam

It's true that "Cultural Marxism" was a snide remark used to refer to critical theorist for not being materialist enough, but when Holla Forums uses it they mean something qualitatively different.

Not really. I know Stormfaggots like to tell themselves this, but even though the general consensus is that race doesn't exist there is no shortage of studies released that make reference to racial categories, try searching yourself. In reality, Rushton and Lynn were ideologues who took money from the avowedly fascist "Pioneer Fund". The reason they aren't taken seriously isn't because of evil Marxist taboo's in University, but because of their methodology was garbage. 101 of 185 of the countries in "IQ and the Wealth of Nations" had their national Autism Level "estimated" using the Autism Level of their "race" or unrepresentative sample sizes from surrounding countries. This persisted into his next book. Rushton, Jensen and Lynn are also notorious for ignoring studies that don't fit their worldview (I know Lynn did this specifically with Israel and some African countries in the former book) and Rushton has such highlights like trying to correlate race, intelligence and penis size using a playboy magazine.

Told you about banning nazbols and tankies

Told you dog

When gangs of Trump supporters will start pogroms and police will be ordered to look the other way, then you can say "they came for X".

Fascism is a reaction. Fascism is a stillborn Revolution. But you don't have any Revolution going in the first place. What you have is regular Capitalism - yes, it will still be regular Capitalism as long as no Socialist resistance is happening, even if LGBT are stoned to death and not praying to God-Emperor Trump seven times a day is punishable by prison sentence.

They don't like competition.

POTUS staff twitter has been double checked

twitter.com/RoguePOTUSStaff/status/826314520381554688

Stalintrip do you live in the United States?

Ok definition autism I guess

Mein Gott!
But isn't it ironic how the most avid defenders of "western values" are more often than not haters of the freedom embed in the very same thing they defend?

OOH NOEZ!!
I BELEIVEZ EVERYTHINGZ I HEARZ ON THE NEWZ AND THE TWITTERZ BECAUSE THEYRS ALWAYZ RIGHTS!!! NONE OF THISZ SOUNDZ SENSATIONALISTSZ TO MEEZ IT MUST BE TRUUUEEZ!

Why do you have to use the word Fascism? Why not Nazism? Or - even better - Totalitarianism, a perfect word specifically invented to be used as "everything I don't like".

Too bad the left in America doesn't believe in solidarity.

Because people don't know those words well or have an emotional reaction to a degree it is beneficial for us.

You want people to be against this administration the more unease and worry they feel the higher the chance they ll embrace communism if they have a source that it can teach them

I ma sure there are better threads to shill for tru,p

>>>/gulag/

How is using Fascism any better?

Yeah. That doesn't work that way. Strength of Communist propaganda lies in it not being empty propaganda - unlike regular Liberal bullshit.

Holla Forums you really need to lurk more if you want to pretend to be communist

120 - 20% in tarifs = 96.
He should have charged 125 to get the right amount.
Mexiball is retarded.

First of all, this
You probably didn't do it yourself, but reposting it without correcting it means "pls yourself into math"

also

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