As I'm sure all Holla Forumsirgins know, Sonic 3 on the Sega Genesis opens immediately after the events of Sonic 2, with lovable scoundrels Tails and Sonic flying towards Angel Island in the Tornado in pursuit of misunderstood antiheroic scientist Dr. Ivo Robotnik. As the plane closes in to the heavily-jungled coast, Sonic activates the Chaos Emeralds to become Super Sonic, and glides across the water and onto the shore. It's at this point that, as shown in my screenshot, the villainous Knuckles bursts out of the ground, knocks sonic the fuck out, and snatches the Emeralds for himself for some sinister plot while gloating and laughing. Thus begins the game, and we're off to the races!
This classic story is all well and good but for one thing: SUPER SONIC IS INVINCIBLE! Physical and energy attacks don't harm super sonic in any way, only certain environmental hazards can affect him. Since we get to play as Knuckles in the 4th game, we know that knuckles doesnt hit any harder than Sonic, or have any special attacks that let him defeat invincibility. So clearly there is something going on here. Is it a MGS2-style Kojima mindfuck? Is sonic 3 a dream or a simulation? Is it Hell, and all the characters died at the end of sonic 2? Is this even the real Sonic?
What's going on here. Holla Forums?
Liam Cook
Video games happened. Too bad autists like you happened after the year 2000 and everything needs a fucking LotR tier backstory. Fuck you OP, you are the reason shit like the archie comics exist. Go be a horrible autist somewhere else.
Xavier Scott
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Brayden Davis
You have autism
Anthony Allen
Knuckles doesn't chuckle.
Easton Campbell
Is knuckles actually the most powerful character in Sonic?
Benjamin Nelson
Step up, nigga.
Nolan Miller
Super Sonic form is shit against organic creatures. Think about it. The only thing super sonic is really invincible about are badnicks and robotnic robots.
Interesting fact, Knuckles is immortal guardian of the master emerald. And from a distant nation that used to guard those things sonic always steals. So its only logical step that he can snatch emeralds from powered up hedgehog.
Tyler Moore
Knuckles chuckles
Nathaniel Wood
Best music. Best special moves. Best color. Prove me wrong.
Sebastian Davis
Thats a good point, Sonic only ever really fights mechanical things. Also i guess there is that whole rap about how knuckles is the protector of the "Emerils" and gems so thats a good second point too
Angel Martin
I never knew these unironic sanic fags actually browse imageboards.
Isaac Murphy
Too soon!
Also, the comics never adapted nor explained this moment in the games.
Angel Sanchez
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Levi Brown
Fuck off, at least the sanic garbage gets a proper ending. The megaman archie comics were too pure for this world and it got gutted and killed in front of us while the sonic autists cheered as a result. Fuck you.
Lucas Cox
if you hate sonic that's because you are a little kid who only grew up with 3D sonic. Real men have fond memories for the classics.
Ayden Cruz
what's this boring shit?
Camden Lee
The fuck you talking about? Mega Man got an ending issue and a send off.
Sonic ended on part 3 of a four parter with at least three other issues solicited afterwards, just a few months before its 300th issue!
Jonathan Carter
Are you mentally retard?
Shit, really? After they said they are dropping it past the MM3 arc I sort of stopped paying attention to it. Either way, it does upset me that there are more autists to keep sonic afloat than there are for megaman.
Jonathan Wilson
wait… this isn't the real one. What's going on? ah wrong video. Here's the REAL one
After the horrible crossover, there were three issues to wrap it up. The first had Mega Man dealing with being in a world post-wily and his friends talking about the inevitability of their deaths and being okay with it (ending with the introduction to Mega Man 4). The second was Blues finally becoming Protoman, and the third was Dr. Light getting visions of the future, with kickass full page spreads of events to come in different versions of mega man, including our only view of the Elf Wars.
The finally gag strip was the entire cast singing a song about how fun its been and thanking the readers for supporting the comic.
Sonic just kinda… stopped being published in the middle of a storyarc.
Hunter Williams
Shit, time to find some torrents. Also, grab it while you can m80s.
Jose Ramirez
Quite true but you must really be a special kind of big bang geek to care about the lore of a cartoonish 2D platformer. The little plot that it has is there for the same reason why old porn films had some plumber-fucking-a-housewife story going on. Now that I think of it, I wouldn't be surprised if there was some autists talking about the expanded universe of Ron Jeremy World and how it's all connected.
Isaac Brooks
I do get pretty mad when the plumber shows up and fucks the housewife without even looking at the pipes first. its not like they couldnt show a quick scene of him takin a wrench to a pipe, just so we can enjot he sex and not worry about a leak leading to black mold and poor resale value of the house.
In a similar vein, hey lady, while you are fucking the pizza boy, your damn pizza is getting cold.
Joseph Brooks
to me, shit like that would be fun thought experiments.
The fact that Knuckles can punch the emeralds out of Sonic shows a dichotomy between the two characters. On Knuckles's own home turf, he is able to knock Sonic off of his guard, while Sonic rushes headlong into a situation, so cocksure that he could blast through everything without having to worry about it.
It's basically just the same thing as this.
Camden Torres
It's the little things in life that make me smile.
Cameron Cruz
Super Sonic was just caught off guard, just like how SSJB Goku was caught off guard by that laser beam in Resurrection F
Chase Ward
You step up, Niiga.
Adam Harris
this user gets it, its fun to think about this stuff, just cause its a game doesn't mean we cant have a little fun with some analysis.
the situation does show an intersting contrast between the 2 characters. Also that pit in Mystic Cave from your pic is one of the trolliest things on Genesis, that really takes me back.
Josiah Johnson
I already posted this earlier in this thread. I prefer this version over the "le poop and blood" jokes the new one is rife with.
Nathan Roberts
Please don't compare DBZ Super's power level garbage to anything ever again. That shit stopped making any sense long time ago.
Anthony Morgan
In the classic games he's better than Sonic in almost every way, isn't he? He doesn't move slower or have any abilities Sonic doesn't. In fact he's quite a bit FASTER if you count his climbing, which lets him traverse levels quicker. The only thing is he jumps a bit lower, but again, he can climb.
Joshua Kelly
Well, there is that insta shield thing and the other shield double jumps Sonic gets, but Knuckle's glide is kind of like the shield double jumps except he can do it any time. Whatever.
Ryder Perez
Is that why going Super/Hyper works so well when you fight Knuckles in the Palace?
Jack Barnes
I always thought it was funny how Super Sonic could be defeated by just digging a pit.
Jack Ortiz
Don't forget he can glide nearly as fast as his running speed.
Ethan Williams
*Or lack any abilities Sonic has Christ I'm a mess.
Hudson Smith
It's kind of like that thing about how an immortal human (i.e. can't die, but no other powers) has a 100% chance of eventually getting buried alive or otherwise trapped in an inescapable situation, and basically spend eternity trapped forever.
Jayden Diaz
His rings ran out at the exact moment that Knuckles bashed into him
Brandon Richardson
That's true. If you got buried, you could spend however many years slowly wearing down whatever's in your way, but eventually the universe will end and you'll just be floating in nothing forever. Too bad the time in Sonic runs out and we can't have that kind of fun.
Jaxon Taylor
I remember seeing a thing on gamefaqs years back, where you could open a debug menu if you quit the Ganon fight at the right moment and then reset and took epona to gerudo valley. Fucking bullshit.
Another guide also mentioned you could become adult link if you let the game idle for 7 ungame years in hyrule field (about 2 weeks of constant real time).
Landon Morales
Kek.
Alexander Fisher
Ah yes. Riverdale. A show that turned Josie and the Pussycats into BLM members while promoting student teacher incest was more in favor than the only decent comic that wasn't infested by SJW bullshit.
Jose Russell
Did I miss an episode where they revealed imposter Grundy was related to Archie?
Asher Long
Excuse me?
Nathaniel Sanchez
This.
World building/lorefags are cancer.
Chase Reed
I'm absolutely positive that at least one of the words here is entirely foreign to you.
Henry Foster
Ah. Sorry, didn't mean to misuse the word incest.
Oh and I forgot this.
Robert Perry
Is this the birth of an epic new fetish?
Brandon Jackson
tl;dr? If you refer to knuckles being able to slam emeralds outta SS, then there are hazards in game that able to slam you outta SS too. Like the last boss of Sonic 3. I guess he just hit you strong enough.
Aaron Johnson
Spikes hurt Super Sonic, Knuckles has spikes on his knuckles.
I don't even sonic.
Alexander Gonzalez
I see that you don't even sonic.
Michael Jenkins
Knuckles has lava on his knuckles?
David Foster
Sonic just happened to run out of rings just as Knuckles punched him.
Wait, the student and teacher are related? It must suck having your relative be your teacher, especially when the other students find out about it.
Carter Taylor
Forgot to add, that's why you start the game out with zero rings.
Ethan Robinson
Lava doesn't hurt super sonic either. One of the few ways to die as SS is to be crushed by the environment.
Samuel King
A really good punch then.
Logan Lee
But that would kill him by that logic, not just knock him out.
Angel Stewart
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Justin Ward
Will captain Autismo EVER fuck off?
Jose Harris
Knuckles didn't hit Sonic, he just scared the shit out of him, making him drop the emeralds.
Ethan Clark
I play sanic just to gamble on the casino level
Joseph Perry
Knuckles was carrying the Master Emerald shrunk down like he did in SA2 and nullified Super Sonic's emerdudes with it. At this point Angel Island is in the water because of the death egg slammed into it.
Eli Anderson
knuckles doesn't care if you're invincible. you don't fuck with knuckles
Luis Richardson
Either Sonic ran out of rings or pic related.
Adrian Wood
Getting hit with zero rings would kill him, not just knock him back
Jaxon Hughes
Whats the story with that guy?
Chase Hall
Chaos Control. Master Emerald empowerment. Great emmerows powa allows me to feel.
Chase Moore
YOU DON'T FUCK WITH THE KNUCKS
==HERE I COME RUFFA THEN DA REST OF UM=-=
Anthony Bennett
Imagine if you crossed Chris chan and MovieBob.
Chase Gray
Don't fucking joke like that man.
Cameron Hill
Why has nobody checked these?
Jayden Mitchell
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Robert Robinson
It's just a reason to make your re-collect the chaos emeralds. Calm your autism.
Nolan Bailey
Knuckles huh? That reminds me of a funny story.
Cooper Lopez
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Easton Cook
Sonic 3 already had LotR tier backstory.
OP will notice that when you begin the game you have 0 rings. Sonic ran out of rings at the exact same moment that Knuckles punched him, explaining Knuckles' attack actually doing anything. Now, normal attacks won't make you lose your emeralds in the game, but that's how strong Knuckles is. He is stronger than Sonic, as seen when he breaks through walls that Sonic can't.
Cameron Anderson
How come Sonic didn't die, then
Jace Jones
Because Knuckles is a little bitch
Blake Myers
Wait have we ever seen the gods?
Colton Collins
Pretty sure it's what was made into chaos
Cameron Morales
With the exception of Chaos, who didn't even start as a god, the Sonic pantheon is pretty shit.
Angel Barnes
He did it with the power of song!
Daniel Powell
"Better head for land!
That's how it happened.
Henry Harris
does Knuckles look like a robot?
Ryan Adams
But Tails was right there, he could've just landed on the plane.
Luis Thomas
Well what the fuck were you expecting, retard?
Daniel Williams
It's true. Ken Penders is human cancer.
Levi Hughes
But that's not Way Past Cool.
Adrian Torres
His normal jump is lower than Sonic's, preventing him from going the same path or making the bosses harder.
Owen Ward
Super Sonic was actually retconned as being totally Invisible since the Adventure Games. It's clear that certain things with enough power can actually hurt him, ie. Perfect Chaos, Biolizard, Eggman, etc. However, this retcon does affect the older games, and old Super Sonic levels. You can note that during the old Super Sonic levels Sonic actually gets hurt by various things, which means his powers don't extrend to total Invincibily. If anything, it makes him far more durable, as most of the time he gets hurt by running into robots, not robots attacking him. Suffice to say that Super Sonic was never clearly Invincible, just harder to kill. Knuckles clearly gets the drop on him, and we don't know how long Sonic had the Emeralds for. He could have been wearing out, losing their power. Had he collected rings recently? We don't know, but it's at least clear that Sonic, in a number of ways, could have not been at his full Super State, meanly a sustained form of Super Sonic.
Levi Russell
WEW
Leo Wilson
Knux is Master Emerald guardian, he may posses ability to knock gems out of someone through his mystic connection to Master Emerald.
Hudson Lewis
While in some of the games characters have directly mentioned rings, they've also been implied at times to be nothing more than a gameplay mechanic, representing Sonic's "concentration" to stay in Super form. If this is the case, and Sonic doesn't actually need rings to go/stay Super, then it could just be as simple as Knuckles startling him and breaking his concentration.
The better question is how Eggman managed to hold and depower Super Sonic in Unleashed. Shit shouldn't have been possible. And if it IS possible, then why doesn't he just place one of those machines at every final boss fight? Seems like the writers really just pulled that one out of their asses. Come to think of it, that's probably the simpler and better explanation for Sonic 3 as well.
Alexander Gray
He can use the ME to turn the Emeralds off literally (see: SA2).
Jaxon Russell
Are you a faggot?
Ayden Mitchell
Literally all I would care about is what he thinks about femishit and mudshit.
Jose Ramirez
Knuckles had black pepper on his hand and when he punched Sonic he sneezed and the emeralds fell out of his natural hedgehog skin pockets.
Samuel Bailey
You fucking autist, Knuckles doesn't injure Sonic, he hits him with enough velocity that it makes him drop the Chaos Emeralds and he therefore loses his power level. Maybe Knuckles used the power of the Master Emerald to enter Sonic's gravitational force and dislodge the Emeralds from his very being, as the Master Emerald likely controls the reverberating frequencies of each of the Emeralds independently. It is therefore plausible that Knuckles was able to fuck on Sonic like he was a bitch.
Basically, Sonic got nigger'd.
Nathan Perry
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Gabriel Bailey
Well you see Knuckles is Rougher than the rest of them the best of them, tougher than leather, and unlike sonic he doesn't chuckle In addition because he has the great emerald's power to feel it allows him to not let it get to me, he's just gonna creep.
Ryan Garcia
Sonic got spooked
Elijah Wilson
Back in the day Knuckles was only the favorite of niglets.
Angel Powell
The japanese lore has never been anything but cancer
Colton Davis
I can't be the only one who 100% unironically enjoys the Knuckles raps right? Especially Pumpkin Hill.
Cooper Wright
They're lyrically dumb, but they legitimately do range from groovin' to comfy. I like them.
Isaac Evans
The servers are the 7 Chaos. Chaos is power. Power enriched by the heart. The controller is the one that unifies the Chaos. Knuckles controls the controller.
Basically
Knuckles > Master Emerald > Chaos Emeralds
Joseph Murphy
No, he's the guardian. The meaning of that phrase depends on the meaning of "The one that unifies the chaos." In one sense, it could just be referring to the fact that the 7 Emeralds are controlled by the Master Emerald. In another, it's just literally speaking about whoever collected the emeralds gets super powers.
Caleb Martin
Super Sonic was actually retconned as being totally Invisible since the Adventure Games pic related: super sonic