What was the biggest realization or moment in your life that made you into a communist?

i have

Do you own a AK?

give back what you robbed and end apartheid instead of playing a victim card. no sympathy for right wing pseudo-leftist reactionaries like your self

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It was a slow progression and recent as well. I was a lolbertarian but after Trump won it shocked me enough to start doing a lot more research. I realized the atrocities commited by the military-industrial complex and the complete rigging of the system done by the bourgeoisie. Thats when I became a social democrat. After I read A Peoples History of the US, I realized this shit had been happening for millenia and that the elite had always been screwing us over and realized that communism was the only way out.

How active is PFLP? I gather it's non existent in Gaza but fairly popular in Western Bank?

I'm not palestinian technically, but my dad is, so I only have a dog in this by proxy. I think a one state solution is the only one that will prevent future conflict. One state means Palestinians can still live on all their land and participate in society and government while hopefully soothing over all the bullshit that has happened over the years by forcing people to interact without barriers, two states it's the opposite. The violence won't end with two states, I guarantee it.

Nothing, really. I'm wealthy and comfortable. I'm anticapitalist because of what the future will bring if things continue at this rate, not because I've been personally mistreated so horribly by it.

It was when i was taking out the trash, and i saw a woman stealing stuff from the trash pile
I still think that if it was some other faggot, he would've called the police on her

anytime you hear of an attack outside of gaza it was done by pflp. like the truck attack last week.

but even in gaza it has support and it is a big organization with sympathizers and fighters everywhere in palestine and jordan. discreet though because of its "status" but still popular and very active

ending apartheid is the only fix. a workers state where being a practicing christian/jew/muslim does not matter like it didn't matter before Zionism

This. Even if you are wealthy and comftrouble it just makes sense to want a society where capitalism isn't in decay and machines are doing everyone's jobs for them and we can work our way to fully automated luxury communism. Workers owning the means of production is in your best interest even if comftrouble

I don't know if you're the same person, but if you're a westerner, you're likely to not understand multigenerational cultural conflict. Grudges last for centuries in places like the middle east, socialism isn't going to end that, the only thing that will is socialism and one state.

I'm a Zionist in the sense that I support Israel's existence which is because out of pure pragmatism, hence why I said 2 state solution.

most palis want their clay back and to kill Jews, most Zionists don't want to give up the shtahim. What are we supposed to do? get real man

I pity you

I started hanging out on Holla Forums a month ago and about a week ago I though that yes, socialism did sound like a pretty good solution.

Kinda shit origin story, I know.

When I started thinking about labor theory of value. I didn't know what it was at the time, but I've always wondered about them pesky CEO's not giving everyone their labour's worth because of how much profit they need to squeeze out of one. I googled it something along the lines of labor surplus value and got myself reading gommie lit.

hallo where are the argumends? ::DDD

lefty/pol/ in a nutshell.

Wait wait read Zizek

done.

Once I got my head around what workplace democracy and worker ownership of the means of production actually meant. After that I released how it solves all the problems social democracy attempts to fix.

This argument comes up so often that I can no longer tell if it's bait or not, is this your actual line of reasoning?

I was born several years after Soviet Union collapsed, my nation was living in poverty and was totally humiliated after losing the cold war. Since childhood two ideas organically coexisted in my head, one was communist (largely inspired by nostalgia and also humanism), the other was nationalistic (because I wanted revenge). Maybe I was a nazbol when I was a kid, without even knowing who nazbols are at the moment. When I grew older my nationalism vanished, I stopped looking at the history of SU through pink glasses, but my faith in communism and building better future for humanity remained.

look guys, I've spent the last 20 years getting into it with Israelis and Israeli supporters, I've yet to be able to get through the ideology. Maybe you're too used to the shit there, maybe you're too jaded, I don't know, but I've learned to just avoid you people for the most part on the topic.

when i realized capitalism was behind cosmopolitarianism, globalism and liberalism

I read a book and watched videos.

Karl Marx was a racist and he was against the rich fucks. That makes him a hero of the proles which makes him a hero in any thinking and working man's book.

Was a social democrat Bernout from USA, started lurking on here to soothe my rage against the DNC. Still believe social democracy was the best way to communism. Then someone recommended Debord and Call it Sleep to me and I realized that Social Democracy is just the reification of Communism into something which can be manipulated by Capital, and that parliamentary participation of the Communist Party is a paradox.

And that's the story of how I got my flag.

typical

ok sorry i didn't embrace Communism the "right way" my bad

This

Just right now there's the jewgle and countless other CEOs whining about Trump's immigrant ban. They feign indignation over "racist" policy and "progressivism" out the wazoo but actually only care about financial bottom line because H1B workers are modern day slaves and cost much less than American workers.

The IT and numerous other industries and virtually every corporation and their corporate owned media is overwhelming pro-immigration, pro-visas, pro-cheap labor, because it increases their profits.

That's it, and that's all there is to it.

They dress up this agenda in humanistic language to appeal to our sense of helping others who need help but its not about that at all and always at the cost of the proles whether it is the foreigner being mistreated and exploited as a cheap alternative slave or the worker at home who is now out of work because liberal pork can't make more money using him/her.

This isn't even accounting for all their hypocrisy. Just look at the way they live and where they live and how they keep out certain individuals from their personal space while ruthlessly promoting them publicly, half for virtue signaling and the other half for the ruthless lust for kapital.

For real, son?

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Reading the communist manifesto didn't convince me, I had a lot of problems with it, but it blew me away that all of the things I'd heard or assumed about socialism were wrong. It opened up my world to all other sorts of literature. I'm not sure I'd even say now that I'm strictly for collectivization or such but I lean towards syndicalism and councilism, with sympathies for mutualism.

OP, do you think of other colonial countries like South Africa, America, Australia, etc as fascist (or at least back in their day where similar ethnic cleansing/apartheid was in full effect)? I don't mean this as a gotcha question.

Was always slightly left wing as my dad is. Get more and more pissed off with idpol shit. Get a job with little upwards mobility that I hate and possibly have depression. Realise that while communism wouldn't be the only way out of this shit hole it's one that I like the sound of.

I lost sympathy for Palestinians after Lebanon 1975.

The communist answer for Palestine is creating a one state solution and driving all Jews out.

I grew up in a working class conservative family, was never much into politics but always hated the liberal left for being condescending pricks and looking down on poor people. I unironically frequented Holla Forums for a short while but was always put off by the racism and hatred, I began to visit /lit/ more often and then ended up here somehow and it all made a lot of sense. Now I can hate liberals in peace.

Then why is the biggest one (mondragon) going down the shitter?

I agree with the essence of your post but condemn the thinly veiled anti-semitism (e.g. "jewgle"). It's true, though, what you're saying about capitalists and immigration. It pisses me off that liberals have little or nothing to say on this all the same. I've caught onto this and used to vehemently defend the people you're talking about. Now, I cannot help but remain skeptical of protests that are all pro immigration and decidedly liberal.

CAN you trust liberals that are pro immigration and decidedly pro capitalist? In my opinion, NO. To me, it's you have both or you have nothing, it's just a blatant right wing position at that point, no matter what kind of humanistic language it is dressed up in.

Recession in Spain, asian slave labor, lack of protectionism.

honestly it was when I was working on my final project for my high school film class

I had to watch 70 hours of actual holocaust film and clips of film to piece together a documentary and spent months working on the project.

by the end, I was having regular and reoccurring nightmares about the things I'd seen in the films.

Before then, I was a communist sympathizer, but after that experience I became a full blown communist.

sorta lame but it was a huge turning point for me

I think I was always an anarchist I just didn't have the words.

Once I fully understood the idea of Bourg and Prole beyond "rich and poor" I don't think I'll ever go back.

Sociology at uni. Courses in medicine, health, and society, and criminology especially. Going through large amounts of research on social issues and EVERY SINGLE ISSUE boils down to "economic conditions are the sources of issues" aka material conditions and class.

So it's not recession proof like every one says? Plus it wasn't out competed by slave labour. One of it's division's that produces appliances just couldn't keep up with traditional companies both domestic and foreign

Also try reading stuff by economists smarter than wolff.

Honestly i just want to figure shit out.
I want to understand how shit works.

I observed Holla Forums, and all i could see was this infernal clusterfuck of utter madness, completely rabid people that spoke to each other in grunts, infographs and memes.
I saw Holla Forums take over every single board of every single hobby and interest i've cherished in my life.
I saw some of my friends turn into Holla Forumstards.
I assumed eventually i'd just become a Holla Forumstard myself, but it just didn't happen.
Nothing they say makes any sense, they seem little more than mad, rabid dogs to me.

But i didn't like SJWs and the "modern public left" either.
They also didn't make sense to me, whining about fucking everything and anything, hating me and my hobbies for absolutely no reason, half of the shit they complain about is completely made up bullshit that doesn't matter in their daily lives, they seem to have no interest in actually trying to understand the world, just creating an echo chamber and shitposting all day every day on twitter.
Basically Holla Forums in reverse.

So i checked this place out and i saw people discussing in a civil manner.
I saw people recommending books, and videos of discussions, lectures, exchange of ideas.
All i want out of life is to break down things to their core components and slowly learn how they work, it's the same for discussion, i can't learn jack shit with someone barking at my face blasting my ass with trump memes at full volume.

I've never been especially bright so i need to take it slow and have some mental peace as i try to figure the world, and myself out.
That's why i hang out here.

Do you mean this book?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_It_Sleep

I'm really curious about how it changed your mind.

I had been a minarchist bordering on anarcho-capitalist for several years, I was like pic related. This began to shift however whenever Bernie Sanders announced his run for President. He reminded me of Ron Paul, so I liked him, but disagreed with his pro-socialist rhetoric (keep in mind I was still a right-wing libertarian and thought "socialist" always just meant "big gubmint").

It was around this time that one of my best friends went full-blown Holla Forumstard like this poster's friends
and he quit speaking with me as a result of that. He'd been a right-wing libertarian like me before, so this sudden shift was unexpected. It sort of lead to the realization that right-wing libertarians are often intertwined with the authoritarian right-wingers in some way or another.

I had a vague idea of what 4/pol/ and 4chan were like, but not anything in-depth. This friend meant quite a bit to me so I lurked on 4/pol/ for a while to figure out how exactly they had influenced him in such a way that he would morph into a neo-Nazi in such a short period of time. Most of you know how Holla Forums works, with right-wing idpol. So you can imagine in what ways he was probably influenced by them. Seeing this, how easily common right-wingers were pushed to the far right by Holla Forums shenanigans, already having sympathy for Bernie Sanders, I was pushed into social democracy as a possible solution. It helped that many figures I respected had advocated some form of anti-totalitarian socialism, such as George Orwell. I stuck around 4/pol/ and continued posting even if I hated the ideologies most of them were pushing.

I knew less about Holla Forums than 4chan, but I knew of its existence at least. I found Holla Forums when a bunch of you showed up on 4/pol/ and began posting /left/ generals and shit. I haven't been here very long, but you guys seem overall more reasonable when it comes to discussion than Holla Forumstards.

I don't think I'm any sort of socialist just yet, but I'm certainly shifting in that direction. Like this poster, I've seen how workers can successfully take control of their workplaces. I'm also interested in the places where people have either attempted in the past or are currently attempting or successfully implementing some form of socialism, such as Rojava, the various communes that exist or have existed, Revolutionary Catalonia, etc.