1. are trotskyists the "communism has never been truly tried" people?

1. are trotskyists the "communism has never been truly tried" people?
2. what's the difference between maoism and leninism? that the world revolution must happen and not be per country?
3. are there any legit economists that are communist?

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1. Yes

2. Maoism is leninism for people with chinese eyes

3. Richard Wolff

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1. all communists are, because communism has never been tried
2. I don't know much about maoism but it's mostly about peasants who supposedly have the most revolutionary potential
3. yes

Posadism is technically a type of trotskyism

1. Naw, fam. The revolution happened and then was betrayed by stalinists. Hence "the revolution betrayed".

2. Maoism is also more nationalist in orientation, flips around the rhetoric of developing vs developed countries and their revolutionary potential, and replaces proles with peasants.

3. RDW for sure if you're talking about current ones.

Was the Cultural Revolution Trotskyist?

huh

So the aliens would save us?

1. No, they're "communism has never been achieved for an extended period of time as a dominant mode of production" people.
t. trot

2. Maoism is leninism with even more focus on the peasantry and general class collaboration for the purposes of anti-imperialism and the development of productive forces. Apart from that more different forms of indirect democratic engagement with the people (mass line), some guerrilla warfare (protracted people's war) and hyper-dialectics (cultural revolution). Apart from that I need to read more. I've never seen many maoists on Holla Forums.

3. Richard Wolff and Yanis Varoufakis off the top of my head are fairly public ones in the sense that they espouse marxian economics.

3. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Marxian_economists

Also, a lot of economists are inspired by Marx, even if they don't adopt the whole system. For example, Hyman Minksy, Amartya Sen etc.

1. Communism has been tried in the sense that people thought they were doing communism right, but communism hasn't been tried in the sense that a communist society has never been achieved. So the system hasn't been tried but people have tried to get there. Anyone who disagrees with this is a fucking moron.

2. Maoism is what you get when you take Chinese exceptionalism and slap its dick all over the concept of socialism in one country.

3. The idea of a legit economist is pretty much an oxymoron. Economics exists to rationalize capitalism. Anyone who would claim to be legitimate in any field of study has to consider falsifying information. Economists don't do this as a rule. Marxian economists like Wolff are rare.

1. Read a book
2. Read a book
3. Yes, do you think Soviet Union had no economists?

Basically everyone is the "communism has never been truly tried" people.
This is mostly because of an intellectually dishonest conflation of Communism The Stateless Classless Society and Communism The Ideology That Says Communism The Stateless Classless Society Would Be Pretty Sweet.
Frankly I don't think it does communism the ideology any favors to do so its something we ought to fight against.
Instead the message out to be one of lessons learned: just like republicanism learned What Not To Do from the french revolution, communism can learn Not What To Do from Marxism-Leninism.

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What Zizek means by this is not to abandon proper concept of things like socialism and all the theory supporting them, but to end the idealist old left that thinks revolution will just happen like it is. Hence, he's both against marksucc opportunism and leftcom armchair faggotry.

Trotsky believed that the way Russia did communism didn't make sense. He would rather say that communism was tried wrong. They are the faithful ideologues who wish for us to "imagine."

Maoism discussed military tactics more deeply, and was anti-intellectual. Mao believed that "olds" such as old cultural values and old superstitions were preventing revolution.

There are plenty of Marxist economists.

1. Trotsky's theory was basically just a denunciation of Stalin, a justification for his own actions and a rebranding of Leninist ideas. You can say most of his ideas were tried and the result was Stalin.

Most communists will claim the never been tried argument but only certain strands can really claim this. Trotsky's dog shit is not one of them.

2. Maoism is an ex post facto justification and explanation for how "communism" was militarily brought to China. Peasants in the third world were/are supposed to use it to pass capitalism and skip straight to communism. Maos theory is dog shit but his military tactics were revolutionary in the pioneering something new sense.

3. RDW as people have said but most economists who were Communist/Socialist historically were legit. It' hard to be a more legit economist than Marx himself.

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3. Anwar Shaikh is my boy
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Haha socialists sure don't know what they really want. huh guys?

is this a joke?

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how can americans be so fucking weird my sides

Uh, yes.
It's pointing out what's so bad about that "argument" above

Proto-communism. Communism is industrialized.

Maotism is class-collaborationist, nationalist, idealist bullshit.

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Maybe.

Maoism=Make the revolution more peasant-based and asian

Richard Wolff, Antonio Gramci

Maoism is Jeffersonian communism with Chinese characters