Noam vs Ted

I've always felt like Ted was more concerned about technology and the industrial society more than the state, him just thinking the state was a tool to keep the industrial society in power. Nor did he really solely critique the state. So I'm not really sure you can call him an anarchist.

Ted was a reactionary who blamed the world's problems on technology instead of da jews/masons/etc.

the effects of technology on the human condition is actually an interesting niche in philosophy that doesn't get explored enough

Memeber when you were a kid and people actually talked to each other instead of texting on their phone all the time :DD

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Both pretty shit compared to pic related

Kaczynski made a few valid points about the "disruption of the power process" but overall he was an edgy reactionary with a meme understanding of leftism. Also, reminder that had the bomb he planted in a civilian plane detonated properly, it would have completely destroyed the whole thing and killed the 70+ people on board. Literally Breivik, just substitute "Islam" for "technology".

Primitivism was a mistake and it forever associated perfectly legitimate criticism of industrial society with regressive eschatology. Praise Mumford.

Grumpy old man

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His critique of leftism is very accurate when it's applied to liberals and certain parts of the far-left, especially more so now.

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This.
tfw other anarchists on leftypol are so retarded that they make nazbol look like well developed thinker

Their very existence seems to be a good argument for a state.

Society's ills will only be cured by STEM "lords". You ain't gonna get true communism til robots bring about transhumanism.

you aint gonna get shit if technology continues to be owned by porky

Not denying that. However if you want to be a theorist please at the very least read some theory beforehand.

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Looks like he's smart as fuck and reddit is full of liberal retards

He's not a fucking primitivist tho

He didn't support the Khmer Rouge, but did Foucalt really beat him that bad?

Nothing I've seen Ted say is super compelling.

theanarchistlibrary.org/library/ted-kaczynski-the-truth-about-primitive-life-a-critique-of-anarchoprimitivism

everyone itt needs to read this

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Modernity and progress BTFO

But this is what you don't get, "user", STEM "lords" are already our robots. Humanity has spent circa 300 years to perfect the conditioning of subjects by science "education" (wink wink) into heartless, thoughtless, obeying machines.

The STEM fields are just specialized conveyor belts for mass production of machines that obey the always current power structures.

The revolution thus won't need the fidelity of STEM "lords", "user", because STEM "lords" are incapable of such a human sentiment.

t. humanities aryan race

p.s. feel "free" (haha, get it?) to reply, it will be amusing to deconstruct your circuitry

the fact that nobody knows what you are talking about shows the complete ignorance of this whole board on Ted. Jesus christ he dont a freaking detailed study on the nature of revolutions and reflections on Lenin his legancy. He has been reading a fuckload of marx lately and it clearly shows.

Oh my freaking god he isnt a fucking primitivist but a neo luddite. He presented a complete refutation towards zerzan and deep ecology a while ago.

He is an anarcho-individualist and reconizes the restrictions on our autonomy by techno-industrial society for its systematisation of our lives for the sake of the efficiency of society.

Look into Jacques ellul.

Didnt know i could disregard your opinion so hard. Have you read anything else besides his manifesto? The other stuff is so mutch more interesting and criminally neglected.

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Ted is the more romantic revolutionary, like an anarchist che.

Noam is a boring and dry academic who has a good few thoughts about stuff he has written.

Kaczynski is to Bookchin as Che is to Castro.

overblown by liberal edgelords who try to distance him from the atrocities of the other half, despite him partaking in them and supporting them?

That doesn't make sense, user.

Ted has actually refuted primativism, and hates leftism because a lot of leftist values are tied in with technology, it doesnt make him right wing.
Guy just wants to destroy technology.

>Theodore J. Kaczynski, better known as the Unabomber, is a surprisingly harsh critic of the current Anarcho-Primitivist mainstream and Zerzan in particular for what he sees as a foolish and invalid projection of leftist values such as gender equality, pacifism and leisure time onto the primitive way of life. Kaczynski holds that the values of gender equality, pacifism, leisure time, etc., while still admirable, are exactly the values of techno-industrial civilization and its promised techno-utopia. Second, he holds that having such an interpretation is counter-productive to the ultimate anti-civilization/anti-tech goal as it attracts "leftist types" who are by nature uncommitted and act to dilute the movement. Kaczynski insists that the core values of freedom, autonomy, dignity, and human fulfillment must be emphasized above all others.

Remember when you got at least a modicum of your knowledge face to face from other people, and not the net?

If you think this dehumanization does not affect our relation to power, you are not paying attention.

Come on, Gomrade. You need doctors in society, for instance, to remove that giant stick from your ass. Society doesn't revolve around this inferiority complex of yours.

Scientific and technological development and their attendant reduction of SNLT is absolutely central to the broader emancipatory project. Every serious Marxist theoretician recognized this, why don't the edgy libarts kids on this board?
It and socialism are like the two wheels of a cart.

Mate, is taking the piss out of you

Check this out if you wanna read some truly wild shit. Even at our craziest we'll never be as downright hazardous as anarcho-primitivists::

libcom.org/library/toward-savagery-recent-developments-eco-extremist-thought-mexico-abe-cabrera

so did Ted believe in private property or not?

do we really need to have this discussion?