If the SJW movement never occurred between 2012 and 2016 would liberals still call Trump a fascist?

If the SJW movement never occurred between 2012 and 2016 would liberals still call Trump a fascist?

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why do they call him a fascist in the first place? He doesn't want to invade other countries, against regime changes, promote fair trade and not free trade. Hates globalization. Wants to deport illegals who abuse the welfare system.

What did they call Mitt Romney? Now they concern troll about how decent Romney was (before he bent at the knee and Trump fucked him over good)

The left has always had a pathological need to call every instance of the ugly system that is capital getting an actual ugly face "fascism". The so-called "SJW" movement is its ultimate culmination and basically the latest appearance of this same tendency, mixed with a nice blend of pop-pomo discourse.

>Since the fascism of the inter-war period, the term "fascism" has remained in vogue. What political group has not accused its adversaries of using "fascist methods"? The Left never stops denouncing resurgent fascism, the Right does not refrain him labelling the PCF as the "fascistic party." Signifying everything and anything, the word has lost its meaning since international liberal opinion describes any strong State as "fascist." Thus the illusions of the fascists of the thirties are resurrected and presented as contemporary reality. Franco claimed to be a fascist like his mentors, Hitler and Mussolini, but there was never any fascist International.
>If today the Greek colonels and Chilean generals are called fascists by the dominant ideology, they nevertheless represent variants of the capitalist state. Applying the fascist label to the State is equivalent to denouncing the parties at the head of that State. Thus one avoids the critique of the State by denouncing those who direct it. The leftists seek to authenticate their extremism with their hue and cry about Fascism, while neglecting the critique of the State. In practice they are proposing another form of the State (democratic or popular) in place of the existing form.

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Yes.

Fascism has been a buzzword throughout the 20th Century. Some blame may actually be laid on the Soviets since they equated the Belgian Rex, the German Not Socialists, the Italian Fascists, Falange etc as all simply being "Fascist" even though all these movements actually had very large ideological differences between each other. You really could make the argument that the Nazi's weren't fascists.

Nazis really did have a lot of elements of fascism though.

Trump does not.

Riiiiiighhhhtttt.

Because the Hitler meme, that's it.

People think if they call him Hitler then they will win because who wants to vote for Hitler?

Worst part is they think everyone was stupid enough to buy that crap without question and now look what happened.

It's almost like the entire basis of their Scientology-tier "movement" is 95+% giving the pig that is their sneak fascism (with progressive characteristics) a makeover. They're not even anti-nationalist because their entire focus is on hot-button issues within their nation state, which they gymanstically justify while supporting openly hawkish candidates, and to hell with the rest of the world until they've achieved their preferred seating arrangement on the home front.

I'd like to see your definition of fascism then, to see how the Nazis step away from that.

Who is she???

Get out.

Elizabeth from Nanatsu no taizai

Hitler wanted the State to bend capital to the interest of the volk, not the volk work for the interest of capital, and he had no economic ideology as such, was flexible.

Why am I not surprised?

"The Volk" You mean the industrialist families, aristocrats, military elite, his inner circle of SS aristocracy right? Because that's who got rich and powerful off of Hitler's economic policies.

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I suggest you check out the Fascist manifesto and note its similarities to sucdem

Redditor socdem might have problems understanding Fascism, but you really go off the rails with the "actually, Nazis weren't Fascist".

These are all things fascists approve of.

True, but I think the similarities between Trump and fascists are such that it's fair to at least point them out.

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They arguably diverged from Fascist ideology. I'm just being autistic about particularism.

These are things that have always been mainstream thoughts on the left and right

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There was no mainstream politician before Trump who wanted to deport illegals while setting up protectionism and explicitly rejecting globalism. All of these ideas were pretty fringe.

Fascism is not an ideology.

Hillary's campaign motto was literally "Stronger Together"

Bill Clinton went on a big rant about it at one of his SOTU speeches, full taking American jobs mode.

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Source? That seems very unlike Clinton.

It was, the corporative state was based on non-Marxist readings of Hegel and national-syndicalism, and had a rich intellectual tradition. It's no more inconsistent than many other syncretic and eclectic ideologies, neoliberalism with leftist characteristics being one example I can think of. It's no wonder the petit-bourgeois Western intellectuals don't like to see the mirror of themselves in the architects of the some of the worst regimes in history, and thus diluted the epithet almost at its infancy, and in doing so obscured their own role in rebuilding it again forever.

The liberals calls ANYONE they don't like "Fascist"

Everything they are saying about Trump now is the exact same thing they said to Nixon, Reagan and the two Bushes… they can't even come up with original stuff.

You are being autistic contrarian. Period.

Nazi, just like the rest of the gang - from Spain to Baltics - were undeniably Fascist, their own opinion (or Liberal nonsense) notwithstanding. Arguing against that puts you together either with (old) Right or with New Right (SJWs).

It's a minority view that they weren't technically Fascist, but still an arguable one. In any case, the reason people care so much for the semantics of it is its emotive power as a term rather than dutiful historiographical taxonomy, which is my point.

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This would be booed out of Congress today by the Democrats.