They did it

what racism? eat a bunch of shit. The fact capitalism creates racism does not mean there is no such thing as racism you clown

If he pulls the 'islam isn't a race' we've got a bingo

Go back to somewhere else.

this

Identity politics are for reddit, friendo

Do you know what 'identity politics' are you fucking retard? Being opposed to racism and sexism is literally the exact opposite

Day of the rope soon.

Caring about muh quotas keeping me from being an owner or getting into le bourgie college is the definition of porky problems

agreed :)

A bastard took a bastard's job. Big surprise.

You know Obama deported more people during his time in office than Drumpf was threatening to deport during his campaign?

Don't get me wrong, he's scum - but so are all the others.

Trump won his campaign on racism.

Liberal pls leave

Obama is a sociopath, he'll deport millions then when it suits him allow millions illegally stay by not enforcing the Federal laws politically.
He's a piece of shit.

Sure, so he was an honest bastard and not a lying one.

A bastard is a bastard is a bastard.

turning every argument you disagree with into a racist sexist strawman is a part of identity politics

how is it a strawman? trumps campaign was run on racism against muslims and mexicans.

So where were you when Obama deported them ?

Illegal =/= Mexican
Muslim isn't a race

what the fuck does that have to do with anything?

I'm asking how opposing racism and sexism is identity politics
Would you have called the anti-fascists who killed Mussolini idpollers?

That's it?
"Mexicans have stupid hats" and "Muzzos fukken smell"?
No I'm pretty sure there was more to it than that, but you libtards haven't read enough theory to be able to debunk any of it so you resort to whining.

Christ you're fucking retarded, what are you doing on a supposed leftist board if you spout uneducated shit like this?
I came here because I was banned from /r/socialism for speaking out against identity politics, but if everyone here is as retarded as you i'm done

and don't forget to take your spooks with you

Muslim isn't a race
You were probably banned for spouting stupid bullshit. like you are doing now

Don't worry he's a Mutualist
They're the worst kind of Anarkiddie

race is a social contruct

race doesn't exist you fucking morons, what's classed as a 'race' has changed throughout history in order to oppress people

I can't believe a 'leftist' would say the retarded 'islam isn't a race' bullshit

As an actual racist, Trump is not racist,

tell me how i convert to blackism and become black

ITT: Holla Forums comes up against the intellectual might of r/soc, who simultaneously claims racism against muslims, race is a construct, and muslims aren't a race (but you can be racist against them)

that's not how it works but ok

what did he mean by this?

hitler wasn't racist because judaism isn't a race xD

if islam is a race, blacks are a religion

Ashkenazis are an ethnicity though, so he was antisemetic.

Saying that something can change throughout history and is subject to human interpretation and social ideological construction, is not the same thing as saying that one human being can consciously decide to newly construct that idea in the minds of all others.

The reason you cannot be "black" or "convert to blackism" is because nobody else, nor yourself, would call you "black" or see you as "black" because that is not what "black" means in this social context.

I don't even know where to start with this. Fuck off back to r/soc.

But he didn't only kill Ashkenzis. he killed jews.

Literally not long ago, jews and irish weren't white. Now they are.

so racism can mean whatever you want it to mean, but i can not yet to convert to blackness because i don't have enough people on board with me

in that instance, the vast majority of people who don't see islam as a race nullify your argument

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money is also a social construct, but it's not worthless.

Who cares whether Islam is a race or not? at the end of the day you're still a cunt, even if you're "just a bigot, not a racist!"

Can someone seriously explain why Donald Trump is a racist? I don't understand.

The vast majority of people might not see Islam as a "race", but they would see anti-Islam sentiment as "racist".

Words mean what they are used to mean and what they are understood to mean. That means that there are generalised understandings in society, but also that they are slightly different in meaning to different people, or different groups of people. There are no completely accurate definitions - in part because definitions involve other words, also socially constructed in meaning.

The point is that racism is racism when people call it racism, when it amounts to the same thing in material reality as racism - maybe you want to call it "bigotry" or something. Fine. That's how language works.

We're still basically talking about racism.

Okay, let's put the semantics aside and focus on him being anti-Islamic and anti-Mexican.
There are some serious issues with Islam which are the cause for his complaints, addressing these is what you should be doing rather than attempting to find a label to apply to what he's saying. You need to address the core issue.
With the Mexicans he seems to take issue with the people smugglers when he's calling them rapists, and sexual assault and even sexual slavery is pretty abundant on smuggling routes. We shouldn't pretend that he wants to stop the smugglers to stop this, but because he wants the jobs they take to go to American people. The problem here is that the Americans won't and can't do the work for as little as the Mexicans, with the employer also not being able to pay the Americans as much as they need.

And no one ever said this about Christianity. The End.

where do you think you are?

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If you're the r/soc OP of this thread, you started the conversation completely wrong which is why you've got so many shitposts. You can have an intelligent conversation here on a variety of subjects but opening it with several words commonly used by liberals to smear political opponents will just attract people out to get a rise from you. I thought I would contribute since you have at least taken the effort to stick it out here a few days.

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tfw you still havent realized what dogwhistle racism is.

I think you misunderstood my post. I'm saying that people will defend Islam because "it's racist not to" but then insult Christianity without that same regard despite both of them being non-exclusive religions.

I've only posted here two or three times now. Not OP.

islam = associated with brown people

Christianity isn't

yeah, i know wittgenstein is right and all, but still, there is a tendency to change the meaning of words while keeping the emotional value of the original connotation, or using a technical term to pretend scientific neutrality

opposition to islam might be racism, since you can call a bear shitting in the woods racism if enough people signify this as racism, but this basic fact of language doesn't change the manipulation going on here

this post of yours is rape, if i define it as so, and you are therefor a rapist

Is it racist then for me to criticize chicken wings and watermelon?
But seriously, that's defense of an illogical argument based on assumption. It just doesn't make sense to me.

"dogwhistle" is a way of claiming that someone who has said nothing racist is a racist.

But insulting Christianity tends to be done in a very different way to the way that Islam is attacked.

Criticizing the religion of Islam is not racist, I agree. But banning Islamic people from entering the country, treating them differently in society - yes, that would be racism, and it would be racism if it happened to Christians.

Criticizing an argument is very different to racism.

thats cuz ur a fucking larper who can pretend racism doesnt exist

depends how you criticise it. If trump ran a campaign against people who eat watermelon and chicken wings, then yeah it would probably be pretty racist because intelligent people would realise what he means

I agree wholeheartedly.

this made me laugh harder than it should have.

Oy gevalt! I think Holla Forums is in here and is mad that Trump gave the podium to a stereotypically nasally voiced Zionist right after his inauguration speech.

Because you're too stupid to understand how dogwhistles work?

Top kek

it's when someone says "spread the wealth around" and what he means is "killing fields now!"

Similar things have actually happened before. Institutions have attacked things 'they' (whoever 'they' is at the time, it's constantly changing) like instead of them directly, it's a more subtle form of racism.

Okay so let's try and get this thread on track:
Sexist: Grab 'em by the pussy
Racist: Mexicans are rapists
Not liking Muslimsist: Muslims need to be on a database

Has he done more outside of this for each area or do these labels all boil down to these events? Because I can't remember this dogwhistling we're now all talking about.

What the actual fuck are you talking about?

Got any examples or poster pics? The idea of campaigning against the chicken and watermelon eating menace has got me in the mood.
inb4 something really fucking dark

Quotas are a bourgie way to mask the systematic problem that under the current capitalist system a majority of minority groups aren't meaningfully empowered. (I.e. politically and financially independent)
At the end of the day it is still the (white) porky that holds the leash.

Against outsiders =/= racism. Labeling all forms of xenophobia as "racism" really dilutes the meaning of the term.

On the contrary. But at least let the criticism be valid.
There are a lot of things wrong with Trump, his cabinet and his policies. The grandiose promises, the empowerment of more idpol, the obsession with "radical islam", the nepotism, etc.
Racism really isn't among them. Among his supporters yes, but hardly the man himself.

And nowhere did I imply that. Capitalist exploitation fosters racism, especially as a way to justify said exploitation.
But Trump isn't really racist, not like some of his supporters are at least.

Thanks everyone for jumping to conclusions though.

Hilary was far more sexist than Trump to be honest. Trump didn't even try to use his gender as a way to score points.

"I am fine with anyone being tortured if they are a threat to my wealth and power."
- Ronald Chump

And he will kill and torture plenty of us. And none of you will do a fucking thing

That hurt my feelings.

I legit think the mutualist caused OP to permanently quit Holla Forums. Top zozzles.

go back to r/the_donald

Mutualism: 1, Everyone else: ∞

To be fair if your biggest complaint about a billionaire who still takes time out of his day to fuck over contractors and SMEs is that they're sexist and that they're racist (even though he hasn't been caught saying anything outright racist) then you're probably one of the LARPing liberals we moan about all the time.

And not to mention
Well played.

What is your point?
Do you think there are no white people in Mexico?
Do you think the persecution of a belief system and its followers is exactly the same thing as the systematic exclusion and exploitation of people because of their skin color, "race" or perceived ethnic background?

And if you get so triggered at people disagreeing that you want to rush out the back door than perhaps this isn't the place for you. Have a drink, keep your cool. There are plenty of feminists, black power and muslim socialists here.
This isn't /r/socialism, some people will disagree, some will agree, others will post tripe and shitpost. This the place where ideas are contest from various angles.

I hope you stick around.

He will kill less than Obama did, if he has his way, sorry to break it to you he's just a economic nationalist with a pragmatist tendencies.

Go back to Reddit, dipshit.

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"Outsiders" you fucking retard. That's bot racism as all legal citizens of the United States are more than welcome here, regardless of color. Youre racist for wanting to keep an ass backwards culture of people that are dangerous to our liberties and freedoms and have clashed and decimated other similar European nations like the USA. It's about time we had a higher up who is patriotic, and wont let anyone say hes a racist because of it.

Shut up Holla Forums.

So he's a rational, normal human being? Unlike the Muslims he wants to keep out. You realizs Muslim isnt even real, its a fucked religion and label, and they are all extremists compared to how we live regardless of whether they are at terroristic levels or not. Its a huge clash of culture and completely fucking unnecessary for the United States. You're all pussy whipped nowadays, its a serious problem.

You yourself know for a fact that the Mexicans are rapists is taken out of ckntext and what he said and meant was statistically Mexicans are a huge percentage of rapes, so huge that they started labeling Mexican criminals as white so it wouldn't make them appear even worse as a race in it's entirety.

If you think Grab em' by the pussy is actually sexist, youre a moron. Saying it directly to a women would cement it, and make it true as a statement but he said it on a private bus, in friendly joking banter between friends, like a comedian to their audience. He would never put that in stone, in a public setting. Therefore his actual beliefs aren't that of a sexist, and only his playful, joking immature side, which we all have, or should. Hes a fucking funny guy, thats not a bad trait ever so why make it bad now just because of Presidency.

The shit you leftists and liberals have on tv the past few years is disgusting and fucking atrocious degenerate bullshit. Grab em by the pussy bothers you. Really? REALLY? REALLLLLLY!?

That shit was buried, would never have been brought to light, and the only reason it ever did is because Hillary (Soros) shilled out enough money for it for the sole purpose of hurting Trumps Campaign. By letting it still rustle your Jimmie's your letting that old jewish piece of rotten garbage shithead manipulate your emotions and thoughts further, so you side against Trump. The only candidate period with the balls to put his life and persona/fame on the line so often, for us, the American Citizens. Trump was the right choice in 2016, there should be no doubt on my mind but I'd rather you find out on your own as thats more powerful and lasting than me subtlety biasing you and brainwashing youfuckingoros would. The truth is always revealed and stronger than the lies our government has been hiding behind fucking us over for so long.

I'll respond to you in a bit, guy who made a big post. Holla Forums is fucking up.

listened to the inauguration speech earlier and it boosted my pride back up in this nation, as its been quiet the past few weeks and we needed some solid momentum. Also my girl is getting her first rectal exam at the hospital so I'm just chilling here waiting watching and reading the headlines.

He's our President now. I feel that hope thing Obama had been talking about for so long, a little late. Just took Trump being elected and sworn in today for it to come to fruition.

What is the word filter for that?

this is different from every other US president because….?

tumblr get out.
Oh wait it's pol.

A good post which I feel sums up the anger channeled by Trump. The flaw in the backbone of your post here is that you fall for liberals favorite bit of propaganda: "Liberals are left" - this makes them seem like an alternative to what is on offer, when really it's just a different set of social policies. What you've seen is the liberal capitalist media working how it's intended, just as the conservative media functions in the same way. They both stir up different types of hysteria which is why there is a predominant culture of outrage. The CNN of the conservatives would be Fox, and these two eternally battling sides are what create the legitimacy of the two party system in liberal democracies across the world. Ever wonder why these so-called democracies refuse to give up first past the post and similar voting systems? Because it allows the population to be trapped in a meaningless battle between two sides of fundamentally similar politics.
Personally and as a Holla Forums regular, I'm glad Trump won out of him and Hillary. I'd only really be invested in this election if it was Trump v Sanders. If you've read the rest of the thread you'd see OP is made by an r/soc reddifugee and my counter to the sort of language present in it is here

I'm not sure if it's a wordfilter or not, Satan.

God i hate this stupid shit so much. Just admit he's a sexist, we have endless evidences of this of all things said about him

No they were banned for being not an idiot, you are only banned for not being retarded on /r/socialism or /r/anarchism

How dare you type these slurs. How do you think an intellectually disadvantaged person would feel reading these despicable comments? I am triggered.

Literally Holla Forums, how did you dumbfucks fell for this bad b8?

Yeah he is a sexist, homophobic, racist cuck based on his words and action, only Holla Forumstarts and brainless moderates who "not true unless he directly uses those words" disagree

t. Holla Forums larper

Nah just posting quality husbandos in Holla Forums raid threads

can't you keep your weird porn to yourself?

Answer me. Is this honestly your number one problem with him?

If yes you should kill yourself.

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I like how other leftists defend Donald Trump by saying "others were bad too!!!".

He's a bit of a twat, but he's a very dangerous twat. He'll do anything that writes him down in the history books, He may not be worse than past presidents, but that is no reason to defend him.

Liberal americans will be driven further left, and in the next elections a democrat will win. We just have to see if it's Bernie or some other token democrat.

He never said Mexicans were all rapists, he said illegals had rapists and other criminals in their numbers, which is true.

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Compared to all the shit Obama stirred by being "tolerant", maybe this is what we need you wanker.

Doun't count on it, until all the neoliberal shitheels get thrown under the train we can't do much, pray they fuck off in the next year or the dems are probably fucked all over again.

take it to the fetish thread

so he used the Hitler Wore Pants argument then

Nice try, reddit.

Then fuck off back to reddit and stay there, gay-cunt

Day of the Concrete Wall ;)

Both the far Right and Left Socialist leaders of Italy were killed in that image. You are celebrating American Hegemony, Centrism, and Capitalism.

The number one problem with Trump is that the Military Industrial Complex and Big Oil own him almost more so than they did Bush Jr

There are no far right socialists. This is a meme that Nazbols and "National Syndicalists" spread to make themselves seem less like Nazis

Not enough people have to OP to kill himself.

The people who killed Mussolini were communists, lad

*have told

Ironic that they killed one of the greatest proletarian heroes of the 20th century. (pic in this post):

Google Niccolo Bombacci.

just an other porky in the white house

what new?

he's on red team instead of blue team so now liberals will have to pretend to be the opposition.

you gay get out

Why do so many on Leftypol defend Trump?

The full title of that book you put so much faith in is actually "On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life." The two are literally interchangeable according to Darwin, the cousin fucking charlatan you worship so much.