Why do so many leftists seem to hate Assange now? I'd consider myself centre-left and I completely support the kind of work done by Assange/Wikileaks, Edward Snowden and other whistleblowers. For a long time I felt like most left-leaning people were on his side, but as soon as he released information that damaged Clinton's campaign they turned.
I don't believe that he's partisan, or that he has done anything to specifically aid Trump or anyone else's political agenda, or to deliberately try and influence the outcome of the election. Obviously by releasing the emails Wikileaks did cause damage to Clinton's campaign and may have influenced the election in a small way, but I have no doubt that if they had information that would have damaged Trump's campaign they would have just as quickly released that.
Now that Manning's sentence has been commuted I think that he should stick to his word, but I still believe that the US only wants him prosecuted so he can be silenced.
What do you all think of him? Did your opinion of him and/or wikileaks change during the election, and if so why?
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First you could try stop being a fucking dumbass
Second you could try reading a book
The left does not hate Assange
Liberals are capitalists and thus right wing
fuck you lurk moar
First you could have at least read. OP didn't say clinton was left, he was noting how the supposedly "left leaning" people turned as soon as clinton's info was leaked.
Second. There is no second.
where did I say Clinton was left?
I've seen a lot of hate directed at him from leftists everywhere
point me to some threads about Assange then, so I can get answers to my questions.
Seconded, fam. And once you've read it, make sure to randomly copy paste 20 paragraph quotes from it and present that as an argument next time you're having a debate.
Here comes the "but thats not really what I truly mean" shitposts
He didn't tho, you misread. Fess up bucko.
There's more to it than that. There's this whole dirt bag left that's been making a little cottage industry rallying lumpenproles using Marxist terms but not really applying theory to every thing.
They've been saying assange is anti semtic too. I read some of the evidence, mostly it's due to this huge anti Semitic guy having a relationship with assange.
Seems like assange is friends with him but it could just be he's nice to him because this is the guy that gave him the embassy cables back in 2010
Because most are political tribalists that were perfectly happy with leaks exposing military malfeasance, corruption in other nations etc - but as soon as it had an impact on the presidential election of a candidate from the Democrat tribe Assange became a "loose cannon threat to democracy and freedom" etc etc
As is Assange.
Stalin was anti-semitic, too. Why is that a problem?
This seems like the most likely explanation.
Although it is a little weird nothing was leaked on Trump considering how corrupt he is
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It plays into the whole assange helped Trump because they're both racists narrative.
Only generic liberals and neocons straight up hate Assange, but I don't understand why Holla Forums and communists in general seem to love him so much considering he is fairly pro capitalist.
liberals who watch democrat-controlled media hate him
According to Assange he never received anything on Trump
That explanation makes the most sense. Thank you for actually answering.
I imagine he's good at covering his tracks, or at least distancing himself from anything actually incriminating.
freedom of information and a general sense of being anti-government? Or at least somewhat anarchic compared to traditional media.
Do you think that it's possible for Assange to be given a fair trial in the US? Or will he just be rushed through to prison as quickly as possible (assuming he gives himself up).
I'm not sure, I've always supported WikiLeaks, Assange, Snowden, Manning, and the countless other whistleblowers/leakers.
If I had to guess, it would be some combo of disinfo + misinfo. For example, you routinely see commenters (real and probably shill) bring up the rape charges, and that doesn't look good (even if they are 100% wrong and trumped up for negative PR). You routinely see them bring up the "muh Russia" connections.
It also doesn't help (and this is probably one of the biggest issues) that the liberal "left" didn't like him exposing the big piles of shit in the DNC's and Podesta's closet.
There is also action against him by capitalists and high government insiders that don't like what he and his organization is doing:
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You can like someone for their actions despite having a different ideology than yourself, you recognize that right?
Maybe I'm different than some of you here, but I don't just shut down and hate/dislike someone else personally just because they don't share my own political views.
I like what he does, I just don't think he is "ourguy" so to speak. I think being anti capitalist is non negotiable with that.
Also, the black flag poster seems like he is intentionally trying to disrupt this thread.
This kind of garbage shitposting should be banned
obviously left-leaning people supported Clinton over Trump, that doesn't make Clinton leftist. What are you even trying to prove by continuing with this?
You're the only one shitting up the thread
the fact that Obama was more than willing to commute Manning's sentence speaks volumes about how much the establishment wants him and wikileaks gone. Although I don't doubt that Trump would consider him just as "dangerous" despite supposedly being anti-establishment.
and? Stravinsky was a tsarist bitch but i still like his music.
Pls ban
it's the little distinctions that make the biggest difference huh?
Imo I think it has a lot to do with the fact that liberal flagship media were so extremely anti-trump, at best, but more often pro Hillary. They see the stakes being so high that something like government transparency is a minor issue– a perk or some line item– and wikileaks hurting Clinton's campaign for the sake of transparency is not acceptable. Those media outlets (huffpo, vox, slate) have lost any kind of sense of fairness to wikileaks because of this. They state as matters of fact that wikileaks is nothing more than a Russian front and an organization undermining American democracy. At this point, the typical liberal would be totally bewildered by the suggestion that they are anything else just because this is considered obviously true to them. The proof is just how obvious it is.
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so Zizek represents all leftists?
you are saying he doesn't?
Assange supports capitalism, but how the fuck is he right wing. He absolutely humiliated the US Army with those videos of them gunning down journalists.
Sometimes people do the right thing for the wrong reasons.
Leftists don't hate him, liberals hate him because muh Trump
you think those fagets would be organizing riots and planing terror attacks if Clinton was elected?
He helped Trump win based on orders of whoever controls him.
It was his decision to "leak" those documents before elections and ignore Trump.
So he is responsible for Trump thus he deserves no mercy like all Trump supporters.
Though at least he called Trump voters white trash so he cant be that brainless, still he might just be in it for the fame and autism
Did you ever consider that the reason he didn't release any dirt on Trump is because no one had leaked any dirt on Trump?
slow down, Hillary Clinton
So he instead decided to influence the elections by releasing an one sided leak ;^)
If only Hillary could get magical powers from the outsider.
But sorry, Trump supporters are the most autistic people on the planet, and everyone will enjoy their suffering once Trump starts causing problems to all.
Nobody will help Trump supporters since even assange said it, they are white trash
Amount of salt coming from you could poison all the fish in the Pacific.
They *were* white trash. Now their candidate rules USA and there's nothing you can do about it :^)
I like wikileaks, but think Assange is an attention-seeking moron.
Does that count?
That still makes them white trash, after all it is worthless village people who voted for the pee pee man, and they are quite irrelevant to an economy
If they were so worthless, they couldn't influence the election lol. They are more significant than you'll ever be with that attitude.
Kek
"Village people" aren't a single entity or a hive-mind. They voted Trump because elites neglected them and treated like trash. Trump promised to turn that around and give all Americans a fair chance. Your douche-bag attitude only makes it worse for you, because it reinforces what Trump supporters think of people like you. Point of Democracy is trying to bring people from other side to yours, not call them disposable.
Maybe because they are and have no brain or nothing of value? ;^)
Capable smart people always find a way to rise high and find a good job.
Jesus Christ dude, you can stop shitposting any time
Not if the system actively prevents them from doing so, with massive unemployment, and corporations outsourcing everything with China.
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All good ones
youre all 12 years old i swear to god
Hes a hero. Anybody who says anything else is spooked out of all consciousness
He has vaguely said that he supports free markets and that wikileaks is to make capitalism more ethical but if you read his work on network he comes off extremely anarchist
Maybe hes an ancap. Maybe he believes some version of mutualism.
Maybe hes a socialist like all his friends and hes just lying about to maintain his image
Hated him starting from when he spoke out about the Panama papers because they had dirt on his Russian friends.
Wew lad
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yeah, those evil racist America First people totally wanted to fight wars for Israel…
Right wing in the US means the Repubs, not your fringe lolbertarian party
Why do so many *libruls seem to hate Assange now?
For a long time I felt like most *librul-leaning people were on his side
mad? top kek.
assange's opinions don't matter. i do not care that he's a libertarian and nor should you. assange's personality is not the point. if he can provide material which aids in humiliating and exposing the united states, he's doing us a favor. why should i care about the views of a man confined to a tiny room? keep the documents flowing. that is his sole function.
This, butt mad libs and conservatives take turns hating assange because he makes them look stupid on the regular