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with Abby Martin and Ben Norton

youtube.com/watch?v=BqcINip57qc

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youtube.com/watch?v=DtIYmOLkgic
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youtube.com/channel/UCpwvZwUam-URkxB7g4USKpg
tabletmag.com/scroll/165008/rt-anchors-riff-not-as-rogue-as-it-seems
splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2010/russian-tv-channel-pushes-patriot-conspiracy-theories
rationalwiki.org/wiki/RT#Conspiracy_theories
tabletmag.com/scroll/194211/russia-today-airs-bizarre-anti-semitic-conspiracy-theory-about-hillary-clinton
rationalwiki.org/wiki/Donald_Trump
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abby_Martin
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When the hell did he start having a show on RT?

I honestly resent that.
Why do these morons cooperate with what is all but confirmed to be an outlet controlled by the Russian state?
It's damaging to the left more than anything.

Six or seven months ago iirc


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RT is literally less State owned than the BBC is. Also, RT has a wider verity of Opinions on it than the BBC does.

RT shits out state propaganda while the BBC (sometimes) has a hostile relationship with the government

You shold have seen RT during the crimea crisis
That was some top WEW material

How many people on the BBC have a unique opinion?

BBC covering Brexit. Now that was WEW worthy.

Define "unique opinion"? How many people on RT have an opinion at all?

Let us not forget every US News agency in the Election. Western Media is Shit.

An opinion that goes against the main narrative of the station.
What does that even mean?

How many people on FOX have an opinion of their own? In CNN? In R/SOCIALISM???

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What is the main narrative of the BBC even?

I don't consider regurgitating state propaganda an "opinion" though. I haven't seen RT do anything but do that. It's useless.

Shes gotten a bit less hot with age

Well Fox and CNN yes, but isnt /r/socialism a conglomerate of various strains of sjwism?

Democracy now and TheRealNews are okay

from OP: youtu.be/BqcINip57qc?t=451

What is this supposed to prove? It's a video trying to exonerate Russia, which in this case I actually probably agree with, but it doesn't change the fact RT is russian propaganda.

Are you this stupid? Abby details how she worked for RT while openly shitting on Putin.

Neo-Liberal and Idpol bullshit to keep the under classes enslaved to mega corporations while they worship their own jizz.
What about all the RT corespondents who ave questioned Russian state positions, like Abby Martin and Jesse Ventura?

RT does colabs with Democracy Now alot.

Look I am not saying RT is not Propaganda, but it is better and more onest then the Shit that the BBC and CNN put out.

Basically

When did she shit on Putin? This video doesnt contain any shitting on Putin. Are you braindead enough to actually think this?

did you even watch the video?

According to who?


Is Jesse Ventura an RT employee now, because that'd be pretty funny. When did Abby Martin openly attack Russia while working on RT?

When did RT collaborate on DemocracyNow, just curious?

I like the BBC more, RT is just Russia's CNN lol, sorry :/

What is not propaganda, seriously? Everything that has an angle, a political agenda, etc. is.

Yes, did you?

Back when Putin annexed Crimea, she attacked him for breaking international Law. She continued to work for RT 6 months after that also.

Well that's not the modern definition of propaganda though

Give me some examples and quotes.

youtube.com/watch?v=ZolXrjGIBJs

You made it clear you didn't, so you can stop shilling any time now.


Except CNN and BBC are on the side of the Empire, you stupid cunt.

All you had to do is search YouTube for 2 sec

youtu.be/BqcINip57qc?t=1147

Except RT is on the side of the russian imperialists, so yawn..


A 1 minute clip where she timidly criticized it, which is better than I thought, but not exaclty her "shitting on Putin", I do wonder if she continued critical coverage of Crimea or just dropped it after that.

Also there's people on CNN and Fox and BBC who give equally timid criticisms of the status quo so color me unimpressed.

youtube.com/watch?v=KgJJD4vB8q4
youtube.com/watch?v=DtIYmOLkgic
Just 2 examples of them working with Democracy now.
>Is Jesse Ventura an RT employee now,
e as been for a long time so is Larry King

You just dont want to admit that the people you like are Propaganda too.

No, you see, Larry King was the shining beacon of Free Speech (tm) when he worked for CNN, but the minute he signed for RT he became a statist russian puppet.

LOL Larry King is on RT? Holy shit, the most fluff interviewer of all time is now an RT employee, that is…odd. And Jesse Ventura, who's only slightly less crazy than Alex Jones. Maybe I should watch RT.

Also one is about "Food Democracy Now" not the same organization, also they interview them, not work with them? The second is Amy Goodman being interviewed, not collaborating with them. Also I forgot that Thom Hartmann is on RT, which is ironic because hes an uber American nationalist douche

When your shitty corporate whore channels start giving as much time to Snowden, Assange, Manning as RT does you'll start to have a point.

I only spent like 10 sec googling, not surprised I got it wrong.

He's always been a fluff interviewer who doesn't challenge anyone.>>1247395

youtube.com/watch?v=e3svbmlMALM
youtube.com/watch?v=_sbT3_9dJY4
Once again 2 sec of searching

youtube.com/channel/UCpwvZwUam-URkxB7g4USKpg
A link to the RT Youtube channle so that also use the search bar and decide for yourselves.

Yeah these aren't challenging Russia's bottom line, so when they do, you'll have a point. Assange is an irrelevant buffoon now btw, but that's neither here nor there.

Ironically people tell me to spend two seconds searching youtube, but they keep pulling irrelevant shit like this:

Who do I like is "propaganda"? If you mean the BBC, it's just standard pro status quo bullshit with some decent news and reporting here and there, less than RT's russian state propaganda and conspiracy theory nonsense.

tabletmag.com/scroll/165008/rt-anchors-riff-not-as-rogue-as-it-seems

What conspiracy theories?

splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2010/russian-tv-channel-pushes-patriot-conspiracy-theories

rationalwiki.org/wiki/RT#Conspiracy_theories

tabletmag.com/scroll/194211/russia-today-airs-bizarre-anti-semitic-conspiracy-theory-about-hillary-clinton

Also Abby Martin is a 9/11 truther style fruitcake.

Did you just Unironically link rationalwiki and the SPLC?

I forgot, they're not on RT so they're just sjw bullshit trying to smear them. Lol

Rationalwiki is Joke website, like the Onion. Here is their entry on Donald Trump
rationalwiki.org/wiki/Donald_Trump
And the SPLC gave us such great memes as Pepe the Hate symbol.

You are one of the new guys from Reddit arent you?

Debs on Abby Martin, my sociafu.

Never heard about Rationalwkiki, what is it?

so she isnt actually a 911 truther, you just feel a sudden urge to smear her by implyings

It is a Joke website. Kind of like ED. It makes wiki entries that are so Irrational and one-sided while calling themselves rational absolute truth that they are funny. And the people who write the Website do it on purpose.

A tips fedora's wiki…

No, it was a decent skeptics wiki that drunk the feminist kool-aid. The section linked to isn't inaccurate, they just directly link to RT material promoting the conspiracy theories.

No she's an actual 9/11 truther and identifies as one. I don't need to smear her, she's a fruity bitch.

"Style" meant that she leans toward the typical stuff hodgepodge of bullshit 9/11 truthers lean toward

I haven't posted on reddit in a long time actually.

Wait . . . They're not Satire . . .

Oh? As far as I know and last time I checked, it was a credible database of hate movements and information.

Ah well, yeah RationalWiki is admittedly very shitty, fine, I can just link to the RT links they give. Linking to RationalWiki was bound to start a flamewar.

No, they're actually crazy feminists and sjw's now.

got a source to back up that Abby is a 911truther?

She's a 9/11 skeptic. Nothing wrong with that.

Pearl Harbor Attack turns out it's true that US knew Japan is going to attack and let their defense down to engage in WW2.

Tell me the difference between the two? why it's so shocking to you to question things in the same way we did before and turns out we were right?

Yeah: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abby_Martin

In 2008, Martin posted a video showing her support for the 9/11 Truth movement.[15] She has labelled the US government's version of September 11, 2001 as "propaganda".[16] During the administration of President George W. Bush she said of the attacks: "I've researched it for three years and every single thing that I uncover solidifies my belief that it was an inside job and that our government was complicit in what happened."[17][18][19] The New York Times described her as a 9/11 conspiracy theorist,[17] but Martin told the Associated Press in March 2014 that she "no longer subscribes" to the theory that 9/11 was an inside job as she did earlier.[20]

Ok yeah she's just a "skeptic" lol.

Where did you hear this about Pearl Harbor? I've never heard this, though I know of the conspiracies that Stalin and FDR did it and blamed Japan, that was the equiv to 9/11 truth back in the day

You are out of touch then. Not my problem.

Actually Wikipedia even states Abby Martin is no longer a 9/11 truther, lol. She was a crackpot back in her youth, when she was in her teens-early 20s she believed in all kinds of crazy shit, but she's largely shed this shit, at least publicly.

Also, as people have noted here, Russia Today is propaganda for the Kremlin, and their coverage on Russia is predictably horrible, but because it's in Russias best interest in sow the seeds of discord in the West, their coverage of Western issues is far better than say the BBC and CNN. Take that for what its worth

This. They have by far the best protest coverage of any major news outlet. Their Occupy Wall Street reporting was fantastic. Of course their global political news will have a strong Russian bias, but when it comes to reporting on domestic American issues they do their best to give a voice to dissidents and cover real issues the corporate media tries to cover up.

This is true. It's done with ulterior motives and ceases when it's not in their interest (coverage of Trump for example), but I say get the goods even if they come from the devil himself

This.

I want to say that I understand antipathy toward Russia Today because it is indeed state propaganda. Stuff like the BBC are largely shills for the status quo, but RT is literally full blown state controlled biased media, it just happens to have some great coverage on Russia's enemies. So while I get the hostility, I think it's misplaced priorities.

Yeah a good number of people fell into that Alex Jones type thing about the same time as she did, good that she got out of it, we need more qts on the left.

so she is not a 911 truther

The BBC is State controlled biased media. They are the same fucking thing man.

Yes indeed they did,she basically was Alex Jones with less anger and tits back when I first encountered her in the day. She's far less crazy now.

Nah, they openly criticize sitting governments, they just happen to side with the shittiest governments. And they're more beholden to advertisers than the government if I understand them correctly now. I mean they used to be decent wayback in the day before neoliberalization. RT was created just to be Putins mouthplace and sow the seeds of distress elsewhere

Meh, Suum cuique.

You don't understand how Russians work, they give free platforms to left wing attacks on the US. There are no right wingers on RT, the point is to have a point of attack on US foreign policy in the middle east etc.

That means it can be true for the most part, you just adjust for Russian deference in areas as self censorship, but where the fuck else are you going to get that, in America? lel

This, you can't hide from international conflict, the best option is to exploit it. Hr may not be able to criticize Putin on the show but what's the need when the entire US corporate media does it every day

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The BBC were good before the Andrew Gilligan thing blew up.
Now they're terrified of criticising the status quo.

What about the guys who were sacked by MSNBC and CNN for mildly criticising the Iraq war?

Oh yeah some unbiased criticism here.

No its not, second part is valid but no its not independent at all. They literally do not report on State news or anything to do with laws or lawmaking or controversies or political schisms or Putin's indiscretions or pretty much anything that could suggest Putin isn't a god-king

The BBC has been propaganda my entire lifetime.

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