Why does /r/socialism hate you all so much, Holla Forums?

Why does /r/socialism hate you all so much, Holla Forums?

Are bridges burned and mods there entirely unwilling to listen, forgive, and build bridges?

Is their opposition to you because of your lack of interest in and support for the social justice movement, or just an excuse? Would other lefty internet groups on reddit or elsewhere suddenly be cool with leftypol if you rallied around trans-rights and acceptance, social justice, feminism, and so forth? What if you did that while also quite simply packing up and leaving Holla Forums with all of its baggage and starting your own chan, leftychan or whatever?

Or again, are they just an excuse and justification?

Furthermore, you can use this thread to represent your own views on social justice, feminism, transgender rights and so forth.

I am a transwoman myself, and hold agree with a lot of the social justice movement aside from a few areas, such as people mistaking cultural appreciation for cultural appropriation, and people harassing others for that. That is going too far, but as a whole, I support the social justice movement, and the social justice movement has support for me in return as a transwoman.

But I'm also not really a channer or a leftypol, this is my first post here and I haven't used a chan in years. Last time I posted on a chan board was /jp/ since I like Touhou, and it was still a pretty awful place in comparison to other places to Touhou talk.

Honestly, I want to stick up for your side in all this. But I don't know enough about you all and what is going on. I'm just a redditor and former NeoGAF user stopping by to get a feel for things.

Picture of bunny girl because bunny girls are comrades.

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Because we have like 6x as many active users as them.

They hate is because they're brainwashed by socjus COINTELPRO and we are not.

They hate us because they're intellectual lightweights that don't like to be confronted with ideas they don't already agree with. Reflecting opon you're ideology, so you're able to argue for it in a debate takes effort, so it's much easier just to ban people and call everyone else who doesn't bigots. They're lazy and ignorant, that's the primary reason r/socialism is run the way it is.

this tbh fam smh

Because we're heretics rather than simply unbelievers, and to the spooked there is nothing worse than someone that tries to unfix your fixed idea.

It's just an excuse. They don't have any qualms about shitting on various flavors of identity if you don't buy into their messianic bullshit. They're masters of their little kingdom and like all petty tyrants they guard their demesnes jealously.

That is, if they aren't actively COINTELPRO/FBGary and are cunts on purpose.

I think Holla Forums gets a bad rep on this because of a few loud retards here. Yes, taken to the extreme, some elements of social justice can be divisive and alienating, but socialism without social justice is simply incomplete. There are more hierarchies to dismantle in our society than the just the capitalist one.

From what I understand, We say Naughty words therefore we are Nazis.

I just want to make the distinction here that they don't support you as a transwoman, they support the "transwoman" identity to which you just happen to subscribe. The instant you became "probIematic" to the cause du jour they'd turn on you like a wounded piranha.

Because all of the main leftist subreddits like /r/Socialism or /r/Anarchism are identitarian cesspits, and are filled with an absolutely asinine amount of drama.

Naturally, anything that steps out of their identitarian safe-space is the "other"

They are FBI agents that use the textbook techniques to provoke unnecessary infighting over language, words and their definitions in order to prevent an actually strong leftist presence on one of the most influential websites.

Oh hi Holla Forums. How is your Sex life?

Jesus.
Christ.

There was nothing Holla Forums in that post. What he described is entirely possible and has been theorized for a long time here.

Please learn to recognize jokes.

Somebody post the FBI handbook.

Poking fun at the conspiratorial nurture of you r post m8.

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Half the problem is that r/soc and associated subs have, for whatever reason, demonized Holla Forums to hell and back. I only started using this board about a month ago and it was my first time using a chan. I've been exposed to a larger amount and more diverse ideas since I came here, and now understand why radfems (who've been labelled TERFs) hold their views (to name an example). I've seen anarch@-feminists, hardcore tankies, and various other left-wing threads.
I'm not fully sure why Holla Forums is hated, but considering the actions of the mods, I don't trust anything they say now. They said that catgirl drawgirl was banned for drawing catgirls, but that was simply a smokescreen for the real reason, aka her association with Holla Forums.

I've come to learn that there was censorship in relation to gamergate going on (I was told there wasn't), and that's why Holla Forums was created (long story short, from my understanding, 4chan mods got demodded, new mods started deleting threads and banning IPs related to GG, which led to a lolbertarian making this site). I spent 10 seconds on one of the anime boards here and now understand some of the disgust towards anime.
I have also learned that the IWW has fought for free speech for the working class, and I can't support nor participate with people who flagrantly shit on working class history anymore.

Also, while I understand that the shitting on of white, straight, cis, males is, for the most part, ironic, it's a big deterrent to possible allies for the future.
There's a mixture of views on 'identity politics', from "they are absolutely divisive" to "liberation can't happen under the framework of capitalism" (which I hold the view of). And I think most of the mods (at least on r/FC) are full of shit, because their posting style is reminiscent of chan-type posting, and have seen the writing style of at least 4 mods from r/FC on here.

Sorry for the long post.

Not the same poste and the FBI has been infiltrating political movements and their communicafion channely for decades. Nothing conspiratorial about this.

I've found the transgender community to be pretty supportive as a whole. Which is a pretty social justice-y area of the internet.

And yes, some people in social justice can be overly aggressive. But that's fairly often not the case.

There are people who will politely explain why what you are doing is excellent. Quite simply, some people are exhausted of being the better person when someone says something racist or ect.

When you're a PoC and constantly expected to be the better person, sometimes a person's patience runs thin.

Fuck off faggot.

I don't think this is them but relevant anyway

with r/socialism its probably a combination of power tripping retards and fbi gutter trap

Go away, Suger. You cant handle it here.

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There is no end to this because new words and definitions will take on the same negative connotations of the ones before them. Words like idiots and moron used to be sterile and neutral medical terms. Mentelly challenged started out as a Euphemism for retard but people just use it as a insult, too by now.

And now op has a proper response.

great b8 m8

I'm not at all opposed to the idea behind any of these social justice movements. I just believe you're being tricked if you uphold them as a core thing to concern yourself with in the pursuit of Socialism. Consider pic related. The ruling class wants social justice to be your primary focus. That way you get distracted from the class-based issued that can truly change society. Socialist organizing should always, ALWAYS have a strictly class-based character that includes everyone based on their economic status, not a mess of identity politics than divides and categorizes everyone based on their gender and race.

I hope you're having fun with your whole 190 active users!

Ah, they hate us because sometimes when you don't regulate speech rigidly, edgy kids might say something unpleasant and this is literally the worst thing ever.

Call me "brainwashed" or whatever, but I very strongly relate to this. I understand not just wanting blindly follow the advice of others.

On the other hand, it's a good idea to listen to and consider how what you said might be considered hurtful, excellent, and not helpful to a discussion at all.

I think the /r/socialism mods are going a little far and banhappy with the ableism rules. But as a whole I understand and agree with the sentiment. I really don't like seeing people being denigrated. People with disabilities can't help it, and turning them into an insult is a jerk thing to do.

This, on the other hand, is extremely unwelcoming and gross behavior. Being a bad comrade aside, doing this sort of thing makes you a massive jerk in general.

What does your behavior serve to accomplish other than divide and alienate people?

It literally is indeed if the only oppression you've ever faced in life has been mean words.

I almost forgot the irony of this website having been founded by an actual disabled person.

This is an anonymous Image board. If you dont like Chan culture, you have the entire rest of the corporate internet.

I don't care about what the r/socialist mods think about leftypol. They're a liberal torture chamber that would rather ban all dissent than learn how to argue effectively, and in the process end up alienating liberals who like to use the word "idiot". If they stereotype leftypol as a bunch of meanies who like to use mean words (like in that photo), I will reciprocate.

The mods don't care about those people. All they care about is that the people in their subreddit are as "woke" as them.
Also, language policing helps no one. You won't make a social group accepted by coddling them. Let them stand up for themselves.

Witch is what /r/socialism does. Good point.

Sure.
But people can be jerks. It doesn't help, but that doesn't mean that you should ban jerks, just for being jerks.
Sure you can call them out if you want to, but there's a long jump from that to whole-scale banning people.

Also, if you want to appeal to creating a mass-movement you have to speak in vulgar terms ei. how common people speak. Like common adults.
Anything else ensures ivory-towerism that is assured to go nowhere.

I worry for when you have to deal with the alt right. How are you gonna argue if you aren't familiar with their muh graphs?

Good point. This is why I left the chans. I had hopes leftypol might be a little bit different and tried to keep an open mind.

If that's the case though, I have no reason to support you and any other socialist section of the internet patching things up, though. And if this sort of mentality and behavior keeps being an expectation, this is going to continue to the be case and the Left is going to continue to disassociate themselves from y'all.

If y'all are okay with that, then I guess there's no much else to be said, and I can understand the decision of /r/socialism.

We are not restricting people from saying or doing anything. That is the difference.

Don't worry, everyone can tell you're an irredeemable cutesy SJW waste anyway

Good. If the tone-policing elitist left becomes something entirely distinct from us, then good riddance. That would help us beyond your wildest imagination, as the academia-left has lost all revolutionary potential, ever since it degenerated into micro-nationalism and stopped trying to appeal to the groups most integral to the preservation of capitalism at all.

We have almost 6 times the amount of active users than this poor excuse of a forum, and like half of them are your mods.

Dumb cunts the lot of them, they die in a fire for all I care.

Is their opposition to you because of your lack of interest in and support for the social justice movement, or just an excuse? Would other lefty internet groups on reddit or elsewhere suddenly be cool with leftypol if you rallied around trans-rights and acceptance, social justice, feminism, and so forth?

Feminism in its current form is cancer, more concerned with issues that either exaggerated or false. They take away the issue of legitimate acts of sexism and racism, caring more about pronouns, mansplaining etc. Fuck those cunts.


I'm not opposed to them, but at the end of the day they're pretty much men or women, so why should I give a shit? They're human. Human rights are universal to me, so I honestly don't give a fuck who that persons identity is.


They only support you in so far that you are trans. You're a token to them, and the second you disagree with them, you will be thrown under a bus. Leave them, they will serve you no good.

You're better than they are. Leave them, and actually participate in discourse, not circle jerk bullshit perpetuated by the faggot mods of /r/socialism

Oh yes the good old we won the electio… oh I forgot who I'm talking with.

Guess I am! Enjoy your board!

remeber, Holla Forums sponsoring actual socialist stuff indirectly started this. what has r/socialism done to promote socialism other than ban a bunch of people and defend rapists?

Stop appropriating southern culture.

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???

What idea were you trying to convey here?

Do you seriously think we supported Trump?

Considering papa wolff is /ourguy/ and we've done more than a bunch of whiny faggots, I'd say we're good.

Manarchism and brocialism will win.

why does r/socialism defend rapists? i mean for a social justice board thats pretty wierd

No but you make arguments on the same level as if you did.

What on earth are you talking about?

forget it jake, its reddit

How are arguments tiered, and are these tiers unique to only one side of the political spectrum?

Or are you implying we're arguing like normal populist everyday folk?

Because that might be it.

You have no arguments. You think sterile words like "idiot" should be forbidden lexicon.

So the fact that we don't believe in banning people because they're not as "woke" as us puts us on the same level as Trump supporters?

Damn, that's like most everyone here.

Some agents take on a pushy, arrogant, or defensive manner:
1) To disrupt the agenda
2) To side-track the discussion
3) To interrupt repeatedly
4) To feign ignorance
5) To make an unfounded accusation against a person.
Calling someone a racist, for example. This tactic is used to discredit a person in the
eyes of all other group members.
Saboteurs
Some saboteurs pretend to be activists. She or he will ….
1) Write encyclopedic flyers (in the present day, websites)
2) Print flyers in English only.
3) Have demonstrations in places where no one cares.
4) Solicit funding from rich people instead of grass roots support
5) Display banners with too many words that are confusing.
6) Confuse issues.
7) Make the wrong demands.
8) Compromise the goal.
9) Have endless discussions that waste everyone's time. The agent may accompany the
endless discussions with drinking, pot smoking or other amusement to slow down the
activist's work.
Provocateurs
1) Want to establish "leaders" to set them up for a fall in order to stop the movement.
2) Suggest doing foolish, illegal things to get the activists in trouble.
3) Encourage militancy.
4) Want to taunt the authorities.
5) Attempt to make the activist compromise their values.
6) Attempt to instigate violence. Activisim ought to always be non-violent.
7) Attempt to provoke revolt among people who are ill-prepared to deal with the
reaction of the authorities to such violence.
Informants
1) Want everyone to sign up and sing in and sign everything.
2) Ask a lot of questions (gathering data).
3) Want to know what events the activist is planning to attend.
4) Attempt to make the activist defend him or herself to identify his or her beliefs,
goals, and level of committment.

Newsflash m8, you're dumb cunt.

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what could it be?

I like the new twist on tactics FBI. You must have finally gotten some new blood to work leftypol. Those old war horses that tried to stir up racial animosity are certainly tried and true methods for normies but could be seen from a mile away here

This
For all the macho posturing done around here people sure do cry a lot when basic ediquite is called for.

It's like you guys lack basic empathetic skills

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We are socialists, they are liberals.
It is a hatred since time immemorial.

Sorry we don't pander to literal stupidity. If that's overwhelmingly distressing to you, perhaps up you need a support group, not a tailored """political""" discussion.

The reality: this entire autistic fighting is over fucking catgirls. It's the dumbest shit I have ever seen. I am only slightly more sympathetic to the pro-catgirl side because catgirls are irrelevant and banning them is an over-authoritarian move.

Don't appeal to the status quo. Capitalism is the most ingrained 'vulgar term' (ruling ideology) and still that's exactly what we're trying to fight.

not my comrade

Cat girls are an essential part of the revolutionary struggle.

nice post comrade

It's about bottom of the barrel Victorian moralism and counterintelligence infiltration of left wing fora to convert "discussions" into literally safe spaces for morons.

No.
The vulgar masses are by the most part fed up with capitalism and hierarchal society. The ideological culture of paleolithic and neolithic society still lives on in us, and that is why we have seen libertarian communalist societies spring up all-throughout human history, independently of each other.

If anything, what "anti-vulgarism" does is ensure that leftism - which is supposed to be a vulgar mass-movement - remains irrelevant.

Etiquette is for fags. On a board you get treated as you behave. Act the cunt, get treated like a cunt. Enforced politeness is just a mask for censorship.

Calling for basic etiquette is not the same as banning all who don't conform.

Also these types of handwringers and moralists almost always, without fail, turn out to be bigoted themselves. It's classist at its premise, for starters, so there's at least one universal example. They're liberal snakes to the very fiber of their being, no matter what they can learn to recite as a part of their ongoing personal branding project.

This. Even if someone shits on you for no reason it's just the fucking internet. Ignore them or close the thread. One of the best things about this site is that I don't feel coddled. I don't need to be protected from mean slurs. If a person is so thin skinned they can't handle someone being mean to them on the internet they aren't going to be much use in any struggle.

I'm glad to hear this because it means our culture is working exactly as intended. Fuck off faggot.

Hey, not that user, but do we really need to be this edgy?

You must be an idiot to not understand the arguments yet. Perhaps you should go back there and stay there, slowly becoming more infantilized, as you waste your life "discussing" little topics with people who are so ineffectual they might as well be figments of your own imagination, if you believe it is "called for", like the good little lapdog of capital you are. Nice try at "advice" though, Concerned Citizen #4353492.

It's part of the desensitization process.

Yeah, I'm not offended either, but sometimes faggot-posting just makes us seem like cringy try-hards like on Holla Forums.
Can't we just talk like normal adults and not try to be overly polite but not artificially edgy either? Do we really have to conform to the rest of chan-culture?

We just differentiate between actual bigotry and words that you believe automatically imply the user is a bigot, regardless of context.

Literally "stop acting in a way I don't like."

Calling eachother faggots long predates Holla Forums. It's not meant to be edgy and faggot isn't even always meant as an insult. We're all fags here. Lurk more.

because they think being on 4ch/8ch automatically makes you a nazi

it's not only r/socialism, reddit as a whole is afraid of 4chan and Holla Forums

I know.
It's just seems old and kinda forced at this point. I mean, if we want to talk about how liberal ivory-tower-speak alienates most common folk, is it then not a little hypocritical to essentially make our own little sekrit klub by using in-jokes from 2004 that no newcomers will understand and mistake for actual homophobia?

Personally, either it's misunderstanding, which means they either didn't get that anti-idpol =/= anti-feminism, racism, … or they actually want to keep people from leading about the problems of maoist identity politics.

If they'd make some kind of wordfilter or warning system, I'd be somewhat ok with it (depending on the word, "retarded" Ok, but not "blind"), but they ban you for seeming ableist, without being one. So if someone would use the politically correct term to make fun of disabled people, they'd be ok, while I'm a horrible person for saying "stupid".

Can someone post the Zizek picture/video where he talks about the difference of feeling safe vs. being safe?


Nobody is trying to do that. Nobody is making fun of them. If a comment is internationally trying to do that, especially if it's intended to be a personal attack, I'd understand action against it. But that's not what they are doing, see above.

I dunno let's clutch pearls and post endless pedantic dissections about it when trolls will just always say it anyway instead of actually discussing anything meaningful, faggot.

I don't want to abandon imageboard culture. Only reason I'm here after getting banned from revleft and swearing off the internet left is because it's an imageboard. I like the secret club attitude, but that may also because I'm an /a/non. I don't really care if newcomers are scared off by it. Part of the reason for abrasiveness is to scare off thin skinned individuals. If they can't handle mean words they won't make it through gore spam or any of the other shit we deal with.

Thank you

Yeah, I know that there's nothing to do about trolls, and at this point the occasional drive-by "GAS THE KIKES" barely even registers with me anymore, but I don't think that means that we should make this place even more inaccessible to normal people.

Now I am not saying we can't have fun, but if Holla Forums is to have any real effect on the outside world, I think it's best that we all strive to speak like normal people, especially in theoretical discussions.

I'm not tryna tell you what to do. Just think about it, ya?

normal people are more likely to say faggot than not using words like retard or blind tough.
Nothing stops you from making the posts you'd like to see here.
Or you can worldfilter every word you don't like to "slur" to the point it becomes ridiculous, remember /sjw/?

This and ONLY this

SJWs have been the most effective tool to destroy socialist and left leaning groups since they showed up en force during the past decade. The way this "movement" acted like a fucking wrench thrown into the middle of left-wing machinery is so perfect in the chaos it produced that it almost makes you think it was a deliberate attempt to make left movements as a whole useless and more easily co-opted by megacorp interests

Think for a moment that the only thing that managed to derail OWS which has the biggest pro-socialist drive in over half a century in the western world were SJWs. Not cops, not the MSM, not megacorps.

Fucking SJWs attacking people for not believing in their 200 genders, safe-spaces "progressive" stacks and other useless shit for rich kids who like to play-pretend socialist before they join a fortune 500 thanks to daddy warbuck's contacts

Thread already exists, stop the spam.

I entirely conceede that point, but I don't know, is it really that common for normal people to say faggot and cunt when having a face-to-face discussion? Don't you see how using it improperly can seem forced, artificial or edgy?

We won't ever be a mainstream leftist hang out and that's fine. Our greatest influence on the left is the memes we export. We should just have fun and do things the way we want. A big flood of normies would hurt the board more than anything. We're already in a worse place regarding general discourse due to our growth. We should keep things the way they are rather than try to broaden our appeal.

Maybe if there is a post where the user is obviously new or something, and isn't being an idiot, I think we should tone it down a bit, but I think one of the big problems with a lot of leftists nowadays is that there's no fun, understandable when literally everything about capitalist society is super shitty, and it's going to be a shit tonne of hard work to reach our goals, but who wants to be serious all the time?

You guys are literally like alt right screaming about political correctness and end of free speech because you are asked not to call black people niggers.

What killed OWS was that they had no goals, demands or any sort of unity. They were basically on a picnics in a public parks until the cops finally threw them out. Pretty much the only thing they could agree on was that income inequality is bad, but they offered no concrete action or solutions.

If you honestly think that a bunch of roleplaying teenagers managed to destroy an entire movement, you're delusional.

hey r/socialism, kink-shame in 2017? really?

Go away, Reddit.

Can we stop spoonfeeding the plague of plebbit trash now and just start triggering them until they leave?

I'd agree if nazbol faggots like you weren't a part of the problem. Seriously kys.

Asking people not to call black people niggers is not the same as perma-banning people for using the word "nigger" regardless of context.
Again, these false equivalences are amazing.

I'd rather see all the NazBols leave. Go back to Holla Forums, fascist.

That's your problem. What we are currently doing is NOT face to face discussion. I don't know who you are, you don't know who i am.

Can you go with them?

Nope.

I can't wait 'til you get antifa'd pal.

B A S H

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How do you fuck up so hard you get sponsored by the CIA hahahahahahaha

But you guys are pathetic little weinies and I'll never stop shitting all over your garbage ideology, you assmad little dweebs.


ikr but i like his anti-intellectual policy. intellectuals. not even once.

You know the mods there are accused rapists from an old trot org right

Kid, don't be this idealistic.

We're just as trash as them. Just in different ways, in fact, at least I can safely say our moderators have never taken a woman without her consent, from what I've heard, multiple women.

So if you want to show your hand with a bunch of Trots who got away with rape be my fucking guest, but you're a hypocrite for moralizing to us about it all.

True, harsh language and sticks are all this board has, and does.

But then again, what does /r/socialism do? What does tumblr do? I was on tumblr long enough to see all my friends be fucking nuked off the site by harassment campaigns that went as far as doxxing some of them for something so fucking minor in terms of identity that I couldn't risk the fact that maybe I could be "called out" too.

They pushed everyone in line through threat of their labor, and when I left they basically all but renounced any kind of feminism I could ever possibly agree with, if not outright denied its worth.

r/socialism has a similar problem. And it is not the face of leftism.

Nor is this board.

In fact, I don't think there isn't a place on the internet that can commit to revolution.

But you won't solve it, and neither will we, by trusting a bunch of hypocritical trot scum who covered up a rape, and banned someone I really admire

That's because you're stupid enough to pretend to be genuine and not come off as smarmy

rephrase this pls

Exactly

I don't know what you're trying to say so just how about shutting the hell up?

You don't have to know what I'm trying to say. Do I have to pander to idiots? :v)

kek

What came first, starcraft or Holla Forums

Is this a lead in to a joke. or supposed to be a joke?

I always preferred AoE2. SC2 was pure shit and I honestly don't know how I dumped so much time into that pile of shit.

Holy shit you legitimately think Holla Forums came up with kek

It's all about that red alert action f a m

kicking allies' shit in with a load of mammoth tanks is a great feel

wew. you sure do know your maymays, nothing gets past you

No it's because I didn't start using the internet in fucking 2010 like you somehow managed to. Please leave too, you are actually worse than or equal to Reddit.

You're a literal tumblr expat, you ramble about it in every thread.

And at the same time, an image board expat and someone who bought into nationalism for a time.

This means nothing.

You came from Holla Forums, and to be honest, I find little difference between the two of Holla Forums and tumblr. The only difference is I left in less than a year.

The Discourse

le kek xD

Red Alert was a blast, but I generally preferred its campaigns over multiplayer.

That's pretty terrible if the case. Do you have any evidence of the claim? I'm seriously interested.

As for tumblr, yes, there are indeed people who go wayy too far in the name of social justice.

There's an /sjw/ board? Tell me about it, please.

Nevermind, it's an anti board. Figures.

It was in another thread I didn't save it, but it was some convincing fucking evidence that linked current mods to older Trot organizations that have reputations far skeevier than you should think.

Not that this board is skeevy anyways, but putting faith in either this board or r/socialism isn't a good idea.

Trust no community as a whole to work for the greater good of the working class. Only trust those who are read enough to argue its case, and its basis. And come up with radical solutions.

Which means, nothing soon. But I stay here, because it seems to me the people here are much more willing to engage in illegal activity that could harm the affluent than Reddit.

Cop.

We should never engage in anything illegal, the revolution will be conversational

Digital theft is morally wrong, say otherwise? Cop!

Fucking please people talk regularly about desire of figures to be assassinated, what I propose is hardly different, in fact its a bit more realistic than head on violent revolution that doesn't boil down to asymmetrical warfare on and on and on

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It was like a year or two, it was like a raid bait. But i don't know what became of it ever since.

How do you want to discuss it then? You think there's a secure way to do this?

Fuck off. It's not like what I propose could be easily tracked to time and place anyways. As multiple groups engage in what I describe.

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Where the fuck did I say that

Also, where is the evidence you have that I'm somehow opsec

Eat my poo

But illegal stuff require I abandon my daki and go outside. ;_;

Actually, the illegality I'm proposing can be done right from the pleasure of your own home.

Or, someone else's home.

Or in a library. Probably not your house.

neat praxis

What's your idea? Running up against the white house and screaming "AM I BEING DETAINED AM I BEING DETAINED" while you're dragged by the secret service

Times have fucking changed, direct means of revolution are no longer possible, and the window of opportunity for states with less security not to become more secure is slowly shrinking, limiting our window of opportunity to steal transactions from giant banks between two.

I honestly have no fucking clue how you're against this idea, as in the process, nobody gets hurt, and it isn't much different than train robbery/bank robbery of the past of ourselves.

In fact it is bank robbery.

It's because you just have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. You don't even know what opsec means lmao

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Bangladesh_Bank_heist

Yup, this has never been done before.

Further

You have no idea what you're talking about though. Are you really 16 or something?

Not sure the central committee of unelected democratic authoritans will agree

Looks an awful lot like catgirls

You spy on foriegn bank workers, see procedures, have someone who works in the bank, and have said accomplice work with you and what you're doing to transfer large sums of money to launder out of state into a significantly less secure location, in that case, the Philippines.

From there, the money is gone, the fact it took long to even notice the rough equivilant of $1 billion was stolen, is very intriguing. The fact that they still have no idea who did it, is far more tantalizing.

Are you 16? Proposing revolution in any other way currently revolves around direct modes of confrontation and violence or pacifism.

Either of which make you far more 16 sounding.

If somehow, a billion went missing and it took long to figure that out, and the perps haven't been found. That means there is currently a way to steal from banks with insider information in insecure locations without being easily caught.

That, more or less, is my point. Complicated, infeasible, but so is anything else. It is a potential idea put forward.

Come up with an alternative.

Yeah, you can do some crazy shit, but you don't actually understand what it entails and he's right you should understand proper opsec before even thinking about doing this kind of shit. To even begin to get into this stuff you would need a deep interest in networking and security in and of itself. This stuff is an obsession and passion for the guys doing it.


Social engineering is a skill you'd have to learn too. Laundering money you're going to need someone highly skilled as well. Especially when it comes to large sums. Also, no matter where you go you're always at risk of getting extradited. When it's a major financial crime even those without extradition treaties won't necessarily have an issue doing it. You will leave a trail particularly when you physically infiltrate a bank. Also don't see what's revolutionary about this unless there is already some kind of armed org you want to fund with the money. If you just want some identity theft/fraud is safer, lower profile, and if you keep it limited to particular nations you can avoid extradition.

so your theory is mangled sapir-worf hypothesis and devpsych about child rearing mixed with plain old racism being the cause of American Liberalism and your praxis is basically a b movie plot based on a wikipedia article you read where we become leet anonymoos legion russian hackers in the most ebin heist of all time, when we can't even dox reddit mod goons?

my theory is that you're retarded, and my praxis is bullying you until it cures you of it

You also face violence at the hands of the state for holding out with guns and suggesting any change.

It's, implausible, but it is, as it seems, possible.

Bangledesh and Sri Lanka would be good targets to choose from, and in order to have the money undiscovered, you would have to execute the plan on a national holiday when bank workers don't come in. The only real reason it was noticed was it went through the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.

If it hadn't gone through that, and Bangladesh wouldn't have noticed,

This could have been a missing amount of money nobody could account for without any sort of lead.

No actually. Anyways you as a board are suspect and probably shouldn't be involved, it should be people who know how to get it done we recruit. Or at least, someone recruits.


My theory is you can't read. And are very deliberate in mismanaging my points into rough parodies that anyone could see are bullshit

Half my posts about these things are speculation, I'm speculating what alternative to revolution could there be outside of direct state confrontation.

Cyber Terrorism is certainly one of them.

All of your posts are nonsense you pulled entirely out of your ass based on skimming something online for 2 minutes. Wehnever called on it you endlessly backpedal with giant essays explaining why you're right and everyone else must be stupid. This is the problem with narcissistic personalities. You vastly overestimate your own abilities and intellect and underestimate your limitations, and can't handle criticism. You do nothing but inject white noise into the discourse and I have no qualms calling you out, as the left is still too obsessed with the inclusivity meme and doesn't see how this kind of regressive tolerance actually corrodes all unity.

And again, you are forgetting this a useful tool.

Let's say, we associate the Kurds with, whatever hypothetical asspull plan I'm suggesting is plausible.

They are military, they are ready.

What if somehow, one were to pull this off, working off the mistakes these hackers made, and pull together a way to give our Kurdish friends say

The equal amount stolen

That would give them a significant fucking edge and enough money to shovel in an enormous amount of weaponry, artillery, support, and regional power

They hate you because you bitches are mostly warped Tankies, Stalinists and nasty Assadists.

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I'm not against robbing banks. I was just saying the plan you're proposing requires professionals. I don't understand the purpose behind doing this either. If you just want to get money there are far easier and much more low profile means. If the purpose is specifically financial destruction you'd get more done physically fucking with the power grid and other shit promoted by insurrectionists.

Unfortunately, I'm not mook or rebel.


You obviously don't read them so why clarify me on the content of my own beliefs?

You have given me no politics for yourself whatsoever and I find that more suspicious you aren't willing to have any sort of debate beyond questioning the length of a post


Well that's just how image boards work. You seem to be working through it well.


Stopped reading here.

Why not just regular fraud, some buttcoin mining malware, or selling hacked databases? Wouldn't be easy, but it's far more realistic than what you're proposing.

You'll forever evade and deflect the elephant in the room which is the corrosive effect your kind of personality has on left movements. But i won't stop pointing your stupidity out and watching you flail around trying to reassert superiority. Like clockwork.


Pathetic.

I don't think its impossible in the grasp of a future radical left, in whatever capacity, to hire professionals through secure channels.

I don't understand the purpose behind doing this either
see


The purpose would be either to secure money to give class conciousness to a first world nation, perhaps a less secure one at that to a Communist group, like in the Ukraine, or particularly the Kurds.

That could give them a massive arsenal and a great deal of bargining power, which would be the start of an otherwise unpredicted shift geopolitically people in the West would have to respond to.

It isn't about the implausibility, what I'm getting at, it's about specifically where the money goes

As I don't see any evidence this cannot be executed multiple times since as it seems, it is totally insecure in these regions.

It's about stealing, and delivering.

We do that already tho, performative wokeness doesn't do anything.

None of that reaches past the park of $101 million

Nah

We do show solidarity, we do think cops kill black people, we are not the ones saying your position in society means your opinions are worth less to us. You are ones that are doing that, you are the ones alienating people by calling them out constantly rather than calling them in.

Also it is just hilarious that you have to create some stereotyped image of who you think we are in order to tell us that we are prejudice.

The irony is probably completely lost on you though.


You realise saying 'you are just muh privileged" is tantamount to saying "you are just being hysterical"

or " you are just a neckbeard" is the same as "you are just a manhating lesbian"

Jesus christ get the tiniest bit of self awareness

That's basically right tho

t. queer faggot

well, being progressive in general imo is a nice thing, but idpol should never ever ever get in the way of fostering class consciousness, and on r/"socialism" it clearly does. So many false conscious proles never become class conscious because they say faggot or something

If they considered the risk worthwhile they'd just do it themselves and keep the money. You'd need guys like redhack with some ideological motivation, but I think they'd agree with me that it's a dumb idea.


It definitely can get well into the millions. There are a ton of super rich carders in Russia. Zero days, identity theft, ransomware, etc. are all massive amounts of money. As a matter of fact it isn't even illegal to sell zero days though it's kind of a grey area.

Keep them posts flowing.

You aren't making any significant amounts of ridicule either

Anything worth the word, anyways.


Autist and faggot are both terms that have little to no relevance or meaning on image boards. In this case, when I say autism, I am not accusing you of legitimately having autism

Though I am now.

That is something I should take into account, however, the 2016 incident itself had to have involved more than fifteen people operating outside and inside banks, working in coordination, and planning to travel the money through the Philipines on a holiday where all bank workers were off.

This was coordinated, not a lone assailant.

Further, it's harder to pinpoint who the perpetrators were.

It's this haziness that makes me question if it is a dumb idea. I mean it could be a catastrophically stupid idea, but with just enough work, it's been proven to be able to be done.

Then the radical left should work on this in order to secure donations to allied groups.

I admit, I am no expert. All I know is that in 2016 a gigantic amount of money almost went totally missing and stolen, and I think, it is the target here that is much the purpose.

We could defraud other people all we want, it is still the banks that are the problem as a whole, not individuals we screw.

There seems to be more ways to be caught for identity theft anyways, and the like, though zero days is grey.

Understatement. You're rarely funny, or entertaining, or interesting, or clever at all. My question is: What are you supposed to be?

Okay, well let me know when you actually learn some security and opsec and I will join your hacker group or whatever. Not going to get my hopes up.

As if you're in a position to talk. The only thing I've seen you commit to speaking on authority on is my own existence, and hardly your own empty arguments which consist of either


Because as of anything politically you haven't shed a single clear idea on.


I'm not making a hacker group, I'm spitballing ideas on far future strategy that could be possible.

It's mental masturbation about what could or could not be done to screw over banks while simultaneously advancing our own interests internationally, god knows how much.

As the radical left grows more popular, cyber attacks on banks will grow, this much I can probably say for certain.

If you want to screw the system you should think about targeting electrical grids and fiberoptic lines. Would be easier to cause far more financial damage with a lot less risk and you could do it repeatedly. Would probably get terrorism charges if caught though.

We're hated because instead of banning "reactionaries" while covering rapes we get into 300 reply arguments with nazis over muh Autism Level and say naughty words.

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It would take a group, not an individual. And I'm not really in the position to have people's responsibilities be at stake, or my own.

I would rather influence ideas to people who could.


I'm not saying that, I'm saying your arguments as to why I'm egomaniacal are just that I must be egomaniacal because…reasons.

I know one thing for certain. I know that I have the grades and scolarships over you to back the fact that I'm probably more of a mind than you are, since all I've seen you, and your posting style do, is literally respond to me.

Click the filter, much easier on your nerves, and you don't have to bait into derailing threads.

Yeah it would take a group, but so would a bank heist or most any large scale hack.

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It's based on what is currently happening. I'm not wrong on much. For the history of my posting time here, I've been right basically about everything I've predicted, because it's fucking easy as hell to predict. Apart from Trump's victory in the presidential election, but I doubt many saw that coming, as there was surprise throughout the thread at the outcome.

People said Hillary would be indicted. I predicted nothing would happen, because it was clear.

Nothing happened

I predicted Trump as a president would do about jack shit. Much on leftypol disagreed, and argued almost to the point he was The Slick Entryist.

These are all things, that are very easy to see, anyone can predict.

Do you know why?

I'm not the one predicting it. Others are suggesting the same.


I may have had a tumblr for under a year, I may have a twitter, but you accuse me of having a reddit account you shame my name and my brand

Reddit spacing is redditor, doesn't matter if you've never had an account, which, by the way, let me tell you, you obviously have, your uncannily accurate predictions simply must go out to the masses thru all mediums.

I have been reddit spacing since before Reddit existed. Reddit won't stop me. You won't stop me. Nobody can stop me from reddit spacing.


Thanks for the colloquialism by text, Reddit


I mostly tweet about important things like how I just shat

nicely sums up your posting here too

Thanks I try my hardest

Why don't all you faggots just kill yourselves. I mean its conspicuous that you're all physically and mentally inferior. There is an inherent way about how life works; you can't just make shit up as you go to suit your insecurities.

Everyone can't have everything and most of you gay faggots were probably raped when you were in elementary school, hence why your either a gay, bi or trans faggot. And why come to /leftpol/ to showcase how fucking inane you are? Reddit wasn't gay enough for you?

As for some of you who will actually wake up in the future, you're going to feel so fucking stupid for subscribing to your far-left beliefs. You rarely see grown men and women convert to liberalism, whereas its much more evident to see the opposite happen. Why is that so? Maybe it's because people realize that virtually everything you believe is childish and unrealistic and that the lot of you are retarded genetic rejections.

lel, now why don't you tell us what you really think?

Read what I wrote again and check my dubs.

The wise, noble, good decision making American public, which has always known the best course of action for itself

God Bless America

Getting dubs on a slow board is like fucking your mother, it's very easy

Hows that swamp draining going along? Trump seems pretty redpilled on the JQ amirite fellas hahahaha

Do you think this is a liberalist board? Liberalism is a face of capitalism, so the opposite would be socialism.

How's it feel to support a zionist shill that likes getting pissed on?

And that's why you can't get em. Because you're a waste of flesh and bone.


How does it feel knowing the right has complete control. Does it make you cry into your little red book?


You're quite the autist.


oy vey, ya got me there shlomo.

Why are you such a spineless cuck?

I've gotten quads you pathetic bastard

It's easy as shit

Your dubs mean nothing to me.

Piss on him

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Neoliberalism, feels like Obama is still in office to be honest. Also why do you think people who want to assasinate the president, all of congress, all the rich, and burn down the house, really care about who's in office

Why do you care so much about "being in control"

Is it because for years you felt impotent? That's really fucking sad


You've come here, on a slow board, managed to say, "Muh Dubs" and then actually took them quite seriously when I joked about the easiness of getting them to the easiness of your mother.

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Follow your retarded piss emperor.

Checked and kek'd

Looks like I'm doing a lot more checking than you.

OH FUCK

LOOK AT THOSE DUBS

:O

I've written a greasemonkey script that unreddit spaces your posts. Next stop the global financial grid.


Checked.

Can you link me that script? With the influx of redditors I'm seeing a lot of it on the board.

It was a joke. It doesn't bother me that much. It's good to detect the reddit so we can bully them

Stop with the I'm trans so please applaud me, and don't use insensitive words memes. I'm trans too, and if you don't like how we talk or feel here then fuck off faggot. As eglitarians we are enemies of id-pol, and the uncalled "I am trans" shit is id-pol. Stop expecting an applause and for everyone to like you for your life decisions, and acting entitlted to enforce thought control.

I've been told to stop spacing like this for as like as I've been on chans. Which is like,

spring 2007 give or take a month

I know, you always tell me this story every time.

Until you stop associating me with reddit I will not stop telling you my story. You will hear it until we both die. I will not stop, I have never been on Reddit, I refuse to abide by your slander and lies

You're really annoying. Really the worst kind of posters because you refuse to adjust to board culture.

lol same, I think its a particular kind of autistic butthurt that complains about spacing.

Its like the new 'lol your argumentation was sound but you made a spelling and grammar mistake touch luck pal"

I have to live with how annoying I am. At one point or another, I fully realized I shouldn't stop myself from being annoying. I should annoy everyone on Earth.

The issue is that when you make long posts with reddit spacing they're very hard to read. Do you not understand how paragraphs work?

Personally I find them easier to read.

Dense paragraphs can seem like more to me. I like the break my thoughts down into little sections.

Fuck your board culture idpol you cretin

Welcome, for one.


Both, we both do not adhere to their party line and we challenge their authority on a regular basis. They can't stand that we won't be good slaves to their stalinist safespace and they hate us because we don't agree with their restrictive thought control and ideological lines.


You will find the majority of people here agree with a lot of the aims of social justice movements, but we fundamentally disagree with their methods. Pic related for one of the fundamental differences. Furthermore, we think that many social justices cannot be resolved under capitalism, as lots of them are economic in nature, pretty much all "privilege" ones are fundamentally about economic position and opportunity, and racism is enforced by economics and vice versa. We believe the base is dominant and enforces the superstructure. You cannot make races or gender equal inside a system that fundamentally enforces inequality of income and perpetuates economic castes. Therefore we need to abolish capitalism before we can abolish these inequalities. To make the races equal we need to have an economic system that allows this.

As for the other ones, many of us hold the position that capitalism is causing the death of millions and the oppression of billions, the majority of the world, as well as perpetuate climate change and depleting and destroying nature and its resources. We do not think that "internationality" is a necessity for socialism, because its an economic system. We place the oppression of billions and the many deadly and devastating consequences of capitalism over things like gay rights or a small subset of society in the first world that even if some may be feel oppressed by other identities, even if there is no systemic (IE laws) entity that enforces that. As I said before, you can abolish segregation all you want, but if you keep an economic caste system like capitalism in place, the poor will never be able to become rich, and the ethnic groups associated with poverty will be held in discontempt, no matter who they are. It happened to the irish, it happened to the italians, the spanish, the slavs, the blacks, etc etc. This then further amplifies the caste system of capitalism.

I hope you can understand out angle.

Have we taken the anti-idpol memes too far?

Is reddit right?

Now we know you are also a bunch of hypocrites.

Might be the first tripfag I bother filtering. Pretty big accomplishment.


They really aren't easier. Try reading up a book sometime and you will understand.


How new are you?

No not at all. Idpol should be challenged wherever it occurs. Telling people they have to keep in line with some mystical board culture just bcuz muh board culture is certainly idpol.

Its like saying you can't say cunt because it offends me as a woman.

I think you're talking to n1x so I don't think very new

The FBI's and CIA's job actually includes infiltrating and subverting potentially dangerous (to the establishment) political movements.

Well, I posted my manifesto and one of the first complaints was to put in spacing. So I'm gonna have to disagree.


2/3 years. What is your point?

I'm not n1x

Don't you have people to ban right now, MSFD ?

How you conflate board culture with idpol is beyond me. You're obviously a massive newfag.

Forgot to add:

We dont give a shit about "evil words". We subscribe to an ideology that litterally advocates the overthrow of the current socio-economic system, with massive bloodshed if necessary. Both advocating the massacring of "others" while lashing out because "words hurt people" is massively hypocritical and fucking retarded.

not board culture itself, but saying you have to abide by some arbitrary notion of properness just because that's the way it has always been done is pretty much traditionalist bread and butter, and traditionalism is some of the most pernicious idpol going

You are litterally the same as Holla Forums. It states very clearly that low-effort shitposts like this aren't allowed because refuting bullshit is an order of magnitude more time consuming that producing it.

You'd probably get the ban lifted with an appeal. Not worthy of a two week ban despite being a very shitty post.

Here in CIA we have all the IPs we need.


Looks at a thread. People literally post CHECK MY DUBZZ.

Yes, its not intended as an argument, its just a very old meme. However, that picture clearly is intended to be an post to bait people in reacting without ever giving anything else than strawmen. If you want to argue your position, come up with something better than 4 panel comics.

Conflating imageboard culture with traditionalism is completely retarded. I'm sorry you weren't raised on an imageboard with decent post quality otherwise you'd understand how following a certain etiquette helps the board function and promotes quality discussion. I'd recommend one of the older 4chan boards, but I'm afraid they've all gone to shit. It's too bad you never experienced the golden age of imageboards and will continue to bombard us with poorly formatted posts.

Wow, mods are disgusting hypocrites and need to step down. Please sign my petition at change.org.

If you don't understand how paragraphs work I don't think I can expect much of your manifesto. I doubt the user complaining about your spacing wanted reddit spacing.

I'm not saying the culture itself is like traditionalism, I'm saying reffering to it like it is somehow holy is like traditionalism, because you are literally appealing to tradition.

I do understand very well how paragraphs work. Give it a read you'll see. What is the difference between normal spacing and reddit spacing? I have never even used reddit. I do not know of its spacing

Reddit spacing:

Sentence 1

Sentence 2

Sentence 3

Non-reddit spacing:

Sentence 1
Sentence 2
Sentence 3

so leave a line spare for spacing is specifically reddit now, not just a common lay out feature. Kifusayso

MODS! THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE! IT WAS SHITTY BAIT, SHOULD NOT HAVE BANNABLE UNLESS SPAMMED!

Now you're getting it

These. Holla Forums is at its best when it stays far, far away from imageboard culture and its current obsession with generating memes.

In general imageboards are at its best when they forgot they're imageboards with an 'imageboard culture'. Same goes for memes: "memes" are at its best when they arise spontaneously, rather than being forced. Here, a few for contrast.
That used to be the difference between chans and reddit.

That said, more people on here adhere to the above than it might seem. I don't agree with you about Holla Forums being all that bad. Hell, it's still one of the few boards - and definitely the only one in the top 25 - where people can mention they're from some minority and not only be left alone, but can even expect some defense.

I'm sorry you don't get it. I've been up all night so I don't know how coherent this will be. As an example board culture on /a/ was to shit on streaming anime, use of emojis, request threads, and discussion of popular shonen/toonami anime. New users got called out and told to lurk more. It may seem silly, but it is how they managed to maintain high board quality with large numbers of posters while Holla Forums and other boards went to complete shit wioth the influx of newfags. A lot of posters would say things like you shouldn't post until you've seen at least 300 anime, read 300 hundred manga, and lurked a year. I don't think very many posters actually bothered, but people eventually got to that level anyway. They kept discussion on-topic and developed a community of fans actually dedicated to the hobby rather than the usual casual fans(or normies) you found on your average anime forum. /a/ had its own problems, but casuals were far less of a problem for them. It was far from perfect, but they did manage to avoid the declien other board on the site had. It's funny remembering, but even moot considered /a/ a high quality board despite losing interest in anime ages ago.

look at

I never said we didn't ban people shitposting, you fucking retard.

Having a differing opinion is not shitposting, you fascist fuck.

No more petitions!
Kill the moderators!

We should get antifa to dox them.

Good.

intersectionality*
Fucking spellcheck

I'm gonna admit. As a LGBTQ(etc) member, I'm fucking sick of people trying to pander to me when I know they're all fake as shit. Stop pretending I'm incapable of handling people saying things. I know you don't actually give a shit about me or you'd actually ask me how I feel about things before simply deciding how i take it. Fuck ytou and all your stupid virtue signalling fake bullshit.

The /a/ example is just awful: I can't believe people still use it. Not only was it formulated for the first time a few years ago (keep this in mind), it doesn't explain why other boards like /g/ (or Holla Forums here), /tg/ (both half and full), /jp/ and other boards that don't have a (strict) posting etiquette maintain quality.
Furthermore: your expectation is that people that have experienced a lot of threads, or seen a lot of anime - or whatever - have a greater chance to adhere to the posting etiquette of a board. This is absolutely untrue: once you are on the moderation end you will find that there are plenty of disgruntled longtime posters that make absolute shit threads. Or, as we recently saw on Holla Forums: some people who have been around a long time or made stuff for the board feel entitled to special treatment and use their imagined muh privilege to justify creating awful threads.
(See: >>1210114 )

Making quality posts has little to do with experience of the board. People who want to create a fuzz will do so, even if they've are intimate with the board culture. Likewise, people who have a genuine interest in contributing to the board will make an effort to do so, regardless of how new they are. Telling these people to 'fuck off and lurk moar', will needlessly diminish their enthusiasm.
The type of harshness you are advocating for will only invite more negativity and create a culture where being caustic is expected. This is not to say I think people who are new or not in tune with the community should not be corrected: it is how you go about telling people to correct their behavior. Rather than tell people who you suspect are new to 'lurk more' or 'get out', you can tell them their post sticks out and you feel they stray too far from the expected decorum.

Which brings me to the big one: not everyone who posts something you don't agree with is necessarily new or unfit to post. This whole 'board culture' spiel is, more often than not, used as a thin cover for people to be assholes. Telling people who have a different opinion to get out (identity politics, intersectionality, etc). Telling people use a posting style you don't like to go back to reddit (using emotes or, for goodness' sake, not using the expected amount of newlines in a post ). Reactions like this are just petty.
The former is much better served by addressing the other persons arguments. Telling them to 'fuck off' makes you seem like a tremendous idiot, definitely isn't going to convince the other person of the opposite and only invites others to react in the same way to things they don't agree with. If you can't muster that, then don't respond at all.
The latter is tone policing, plain and simple. As long as a post is legible, it really shouldn't matter what form a post takes.

Keep in mind that this isn't an argument for allowing everything. Intentionally provocative statements like 'Hitler did nothing wrong', or blatant spam should be removed. However, as a user this isn't your responsibility. Don't react to trash like that: report it instead so a volunteer or the BO can clean it up. It is their responsibility.

So, you went and
Yeah, it sure is easy to maintain "board quality" when your destroy everything there is and then autistically screech at anyone who tells you it's shit.

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Panel de Pon thread, you say? Is Lip /ourguy/?

Don't worry famrade they're shoving it into life simulators now that they no longer respect the franchise enough to release it as a standalone game.

good fucking riddance. we're probably better off with people like you, anyway.

I miss when imageboards just did whatever as long as it was on topic and allowed their culture to develop over time instead of keeping it autistically locked in some fantasy yesteryear of posting epicness.

arstechnica.co.uk/security/2016/05/robin-hood-hacker-rojava-syria-bitcoin-donation/

It's already kinda happened

Go back to your reddit safe space.

imo they don't like us because we have so many users with opposing views. We're not a single, totally united (though we try to be non-sectarian) sect of leftism. And we don't ban for people disagreeing with us or making posts that we might even morally inb4 spooks disagree with.

And again, you are forgetting this a useful tool. Let's say, we associate the Kurds with, whatever hypothetical asspull plan I'm suggesting is plausible. They are military, they are ready.

What if somehow, one were to pull this off, working off the mistakes these hackers made, and pull together a way to give our Kurdish friends, say the equal amount stolen. That would give them a significant fucking edge and enough money to shovel in an enormous amount of weaponry, artillery, support, and regional power


corrected for your personal reflection

Hmm this sure sounds like /r/socialism:

"Technique #6 - 'GAINING FULL CONTROL'

It is important to also be harvesting and continually maneuvering for a forum moderator position. Once this position is obtained, the forum can then be effectively and quietly controlled by deleting unfavourable postings - and one can eventually steer the forum into complete failure and lack of interest by the general public. This is the 'ultimate victory' as the forum is no longer participated with by the general public and no longer useful in maintaining their freedoms. Depending on the level of control you can obtain, you can deliberately steer a forum into defeat by censoring postings, deleting memberships, flooding, and or accidentally taking the forum offline. By this method the forum can be quickly killed. However it is not always in the interest to kill a forum as it can be converted into a 'honey pot' gathering center to collect and misdirect newcomers and from this point be completely used for your control for your agenda purposes."

Autism.

I know this might be a bit over analysing. But I think that crux of the issue is that Holla Forums left is more often than not still part of the chan political culture. And my belief is that there is a fundamental difference between people who are politicized and radicalized on the internet and people who are politicized with RL interaction.
Point being that amidst the shitposting and horrible discussions someone who develops a political identity trough internet can basically pick and choose what kind of stances will he have on various issues, while on the other hand someone who develops a political identity trough activism, builds on the work of the people he interacts with, leading to a very different mindset.

40k came first, but StarCraft is different enough to not be a rip-off. Also, everything in 40k is a rip-off of something else.

Are you serious? I feel like there's no way that's true.

Judging from strawpolls we have around 300 active users.

The mods there are literally working for three letter agencies, intentionally making sure that people's first encounter with "the left" is with a bunch of bigoted, ban-happy morons who care more about pronouns than the working class.
All of the users who disagreed with the mods have been banned.

they have 10X our users

/a/ isn't meant to be an inclusive place. If you don't like it the way it is, that's your problem. People keep posting on /a/ because they do enjoy it the way it is. If you want something else, make a different board.

That should have been a permanent range ban tbh.

Holla Forums doesn't like catgirls very much, it seems

they get 5000 unique impressions a day, while we have 700-800 unique posters every over 3 days. We could well have more users than they do.

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Why do imageboards and especially those pretending to represent their "culture" have to act so edgy? Like, were these people not loved as kids that they can only get off by showing off to everyone how "dominant" they are?

I think the thread itself might be somewhat ironic, or at least the edgyness is facetious in some degree, I don't know. The BO of Holla Forums has banned Holla Forumstards just for posting trump memes and done stuff generally subversive to the Holla Forums circlejerk on most of the top boards, idk.

Ah, I see that they were trying to make a point of "if you're not scared off you can stay" right there.

and that's why the bad mods are more afraid of us now than ever. They know even now thousands of people can be called to oppose them and they can't even count on their own fellow moderators to back them up. We will win, whether they hand over their subreddit or not, and Socialism will once again become a peoples' ideology.

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Oh shit

8ch.net/b/res/6635376.html

Spooked postmodernist drivel. Without capitalism any prejudices of people are immaterial in nature and of no concern to anybody else.

The Sassenach know β€” Shut 'er down begorrah!

8ch.net/b/res/6635376.html#6635447

40k came first, but StarCraft is different enough to not be a rip-off. Also, everything in 40k is a rip-off of something else.
This tbh. From what I've seen of StarCraft (I want to play it but unfortunately never got a copy, yet), it has a lot more in common with Starship Troopers (a mix between the actual book and the film), but I could be wrong

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youtu.be/5nEqLmp3A1I?t=21m10s


holy shit he actually said it

nice 5s

what discord is this sounds fun, can i get in ?

Wow holy shit, listen to this smug fuck.

He just seethes with narcissism.

Who gives a shit about "doxing?" Seriously, what on earth does it fucking matter. The way people act it's like you've got mail bombs being delivered right to the doorsteps of shitposters.

If you're stupid enough to use your real name or leave a trail of bread crumbs leading back to your real name on the internet then you deserve whatever you get.

Would you say he does it for free?

I'm not sure but I think they vet you before they let you join unfortunately

does Holla Forums have a active discord?

We should, if not.

we do indeed. it is very active, and there are many people in it right now.

All children eat their revolutions.

can people who missed its creation get a link?

I second this.

give me your reddit username and I'll pm you the link.

Funny guy.

you think they monitor this thread and will ban me from fullcom :O

But on the off-chance you're serious, it's TroskysGoatee (yes I know it's misspelled).

red_teapot, here you go :)

rastafariprizes my man :^)

It's funny you say this, because it has literally no effect on me now. In fact, a well timed and completely unexpected one can crack me up, like when someone rang up a Conservative talk show and gave off a very passionate "GAS THE KIKES! Nazi masturbation fantasy NOW! GAS THE KIKES! Nazi masturbation fantasy NOW!" - dare I say it, at this point the right seems to be nothing more to me than a… paper tiger.

I mean, imageboards turned the Nazi Jewish question battle cry into a political equivalent of the game.

Which the cops were completely unable to do until the progressive stack decimated their ranks. Get fucked faggot.

are those links coming?

no.
But I did tell the mods to get you a link, so wait a few minutes.

DoctorDialectic

lol

The progressive stack shit obstructed any kind of progress or platform development, but the cops didn't have any problem just steamrolling encampments. They raided occupy Boston in the middle of the night, and in Seattle the city government actively worked against the occupiers, going so far as even to prevent them the use of umbrellas.

The idpol progressive stack shit was a distraction until the Obama administration had all it's ducks in a row, but the ones responsible for actually quashing the movement were the local and federal government's.

No one ever says that here. We're not Holla Forums.

It seems you're concern-trolling, anyway. Stop endlessly posting about etiquette & have a meaningful discussion.


This doesn't happen here, either.

wew you guys are shittier at this than I thought

used to love this game, started playing again recently but then realised that the only viable strategy is just spam heavy tanks to win.
OpenRA makes it into an actually viable game though

Of course & of course.

Server host here, BO is a faggot and won't put the link on the FAQ so Here it is: discord.gg/StubhpS

pic vaguely related

Besides, we know where the πŸ€πŸ€πŸ€REALπŸ€πŸ€πŸ€ problem lies.

I have no idea what you're talking about, laddy.

πŸ€πŸ€πŸ€coincidenceπŸ€πŸ€πŸ€

Just

Lucky :^)

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I'm of the viewpoint that people's views on social issues should be irrelevant as long as they aren't a raging anti lgbt or racist dumbass, rather or not someone likes idpol should be irrelevant.