Why Christopher Hitchens quit being a Socialist

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wtf i love the iraq war now

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I would kill this one the most

Outside of the subject of Religion, Hitchen's capacity to offer coherent opinions was limited at best.

Hitchens was a socialist?

A trot I believe.

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He was a smooth talker but not the great thinker he's cracked up to be. His bafflingly retarded response to 9/11 proved that long ago.

any kid with 10 minutes of high school philosophy class can argue back and forward about god.

Hes a fucking hack. He supported the Iraq war. Death to all those who stand in the way of freedom for working people

So glad he's dead.

It's almost as it's a religion

Yeah he was a trot that turned into a neocon. You can't make this shit up

Actually he was a moron when it came to religion as well.

What did he say about 9/11?

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Opportunism is cancer.

Why didn't anybody actually say this about anarchists at the time? All attacks on the anarchists by their contemporaries usually try to emphasise their supposed lack of organisation. Really makes you think.

Another example of Hitchens hypocrisy, because he once said there was no shame in being in a minority of one.

Lets not

Because all succesfull "anarchist" projects have had a state, and are the ones currently used by anarchists as examples of what they want to do.

Anarchists in the past we're more of the "lol fuck hierarchy acab" variety, and they all failed for obvious reasons.

I mean that he bought into Bush's narrative that 9/11 necessitated neocon adventurism.

This post still doesn't explain why the PCE in Spain never brought out the "just don't call it a state XXDDD" meme when it was actually happening. Really toggles my noggin.

Wrong faggot

No, you are still of the "lol acab" variety.

They we're probably too busy waging an actual war to go into the technicalities of theory, and they still had major ideological differences.

Just because anarchists make a state-not-state doesnt make them the same as marxists.

His nickname in school was reportedly hypocritchens

wew

It's not hard to make up

Trots worst leftist tendency

DO YOU FAGGOTS EVEN READ WEBER

Thats why you do communalism, or anarcho-syndicalism. There is nothing wrong with having structures and rules.

what did weber say?

Because anarchist "not-states" are Schrodinger's state, in that they're a disorganized mess when talking about efficiency and a totalitarian shit hole when talking about freedom in Leninist states.

still didn't answer the simple question

If you ever read about this cunt he is basically the definition of bourgeois. Not sure why he was always so convinced that his opinion was relevant or welcome.

How are those two opposites?

It sounds like north korea.

I've been here since 2014 and have never been to reddit you niggerfaggot.

Besides, I did answer the question. Anarchist "not states" aren't a state when someone claims why the DoP is necessary and they're a state when someone wants to claim anarkiddies do labor camps too.

you didn't answer the question, and reddit is not a site you visit but a part of who you are

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are you not confusing the two? Peter was also a trot but I don't know about Christopher

Nope. He was a trot then became a neocon shill. Like clockwork.

My opinion is dealing with rednecks and blue collars who stubbornly can't reject religion is what turns intellectuals off from the idea of removing class power from intellectuals and embracing a truly eglitarian society. George Orwell is his socialist hero, and he would probably be an anti-theist today.

How is a site I've never posted on part of who I am?

it's not a site you've never posted on, it's a part of who you are

If you are a true materialist you should believe that religion will simply fade away after capitalism is abolished in favor of socialism/communism.

you're retarded and need to kill yourself

true but that doesnt make you any less of a redditor

Mystical experiences and schizophrenia is part of human biology though, its actual human nature so to speak.

just do it

I'm amazed how someone who probably heard these exact same argument for years and knew the theory that debunks them, would actually turn to them.
Makes me wonder if he was playing a long con or something.

hitchens was a trot, so it's no surprised to me that he became an imperialist neocon

In my experience most trots are just larping liberals

I don't have an anime face smug enough for this.

He clearly went for the money

George Orwell was a cunt who sold comrades out to the British secret services though.

Probably. It's already near death in places like Czechia, so I'm sure it'll sort itself out eventually.

That only emerged much later, probably long after Hitchens developed his enthusiasm for him, but yes that was fucking disgusting.

It's the first time I hear about that and it makes perfect sense. That's why he was so strong on themes like surveillance and subversion.

He sold out commies and commie spies, but I think he was still a socialist, just not one that wanted USSR style communism in the UK.

Quite right too, considering how Russia treated its satellites.

I must move there.

Peter has become a MORAL Anglican conservative

I know, and what does that even mean?!

Neoliberalism + charities on the side?

I know how Holla Forums and any other strict political platform hates him, but I have no doubt people will be reading his works on the various insights of the late and early 20/21 century.

I like how he thought by the end of his life that the modern socialist platform is dead, and how no one has the guts to start the Fifth International, and who the Chavez and Castro systems were extremely outdated, and the only ones pushing very egalitarian concepts were anti-nuclear Green, who had also the intention of going back on agrarian relations and hating anything industrial.
Whatever you think about his turn of foreign policy of the US, I found all of his articles and books illuminating. The man also predicated how reactionary Russia and Turkey would become considering they never went through the post-war humiliation of going full secular.

It's often said by edgy liberals that the wrong Hitchens died.
I can safely say that's not the case.

Peter Hitchens (oddly, considering he's of the small-c conservative right) is/was by far the more politically astute brother. Perhaps simply because he's a raving pessimist (and therefore wins nearly all modern political gambles by default.)

Nah, Peter is very negative about Thatcher and borderline nostalgic for the 60s.

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bigissue.com/features/interviews/5182/peter-hitchens-i-am-a-trade-unionist-and-i-favour-nationalisation