Why don't we just start our own army and sieze the means of production?

Let me push some agendas here regarding the upcoming EU federalization.

As you may know EU's been working quite hard recently to push federalization. Including but not limited to EU commanded military forces and so forth.

This situation could be either a good thing or a bad thing, depending on how the upcoming years are played out. From economics, geopolitics, military and government administration perspective federalization is mandatory. I could go on to write few essays on the reasons why so, but I'm not going to fool myself; nobody's going to read it and even less people would agree with it or understand it's contents, even if things will play out exactly as described. I'm leaving this post for those who are pro-active in your political stance and can dress the topic in phrases which fellow supporters understand. In short what I'm saying with this is that europeans should be very active with this and push for federalization regardless of their true political stance all while the masses don't trust EU. This way the distrust can be used as leverage to force better citizens and states insurance terms in exchange for quick and painless federalization. If too much time passes the masses will start to trust EU, and what will happen is that we're very likely to recieve no insurance at all. Needless to say federalization would occur regardless of our best efforts. Hence leaving rights and laws flexible, so that whoever is in power may edit them. As most people understand, this should not be the case and it most definitely isn't in interests of the people.

(tl;dr see: U.S amendments & constitution).

If all of the politically active people (left, right and everyone in between) can stop fighting each other for one second I think we can achieve means to fight future oppression and dystopia. Whoever may be the oppressor and whatever may be the dystopia.

Some of the basic insurances I'm talking about are freedom of speech, freedom to own firearms and use them for self-defense purposes, freedom to form unregistered militias, right to disappear and the list goes on. Understanding the difference between this moment and the next, and how the movements future interests can be implented is what seperates cannon fodder from generals. Assuming that you love your ability to push for whatever political stance you represent it would make sense to push these agendas that in the end benefit everybody regardless of who's in charge at any given time.

Join the YPG in Rojava.

fuck off FBI

So, 800 people, spread around the world, will make up and army and take over the world…

Nice idea for a movie script.

Wow I hope the communist revolution is a tad taller than that or we might as well not even bother.

Yep!
Get the gang wars ready, cause we are forming unregistered militias!!!

Anyway, tell me when the people that want to maintain the current economic system will join forces with the people that don't.

Is 178cm ok?

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If you want to make a change you got to take the existing situation in consideration and act based on that one step at the time. Most of the actions are and always will be compromises, one simply changes the odds so that the compromise is in faivor of oneself. Really, it isn't that complex concept when you're not a full retard. Let me futher simplify this for you: You can have traits of socialism in society but you can't have communism, unless somebody betrays rest of the federal government to set means for a dictatorship. In such case a large portion of the revolutionaries would be eliminated once the shop is set and the otherhalf is enslaved along with rest of the citizens. So don't start cumming with these grandeur socialist fantasies just yet, Lenin. Or else you might get cucked by Stalin.

Right now the worst threat that both left and right wingers face is their own opposition being put in the ultimate seat of power. If you faivor democracy over dictatorship then it'd make sense that you would want to basically nerf the upcoming federal government, thus nerfing whoever is put in the seat of power. This way there is no ultimate prize and everything ends in a stalemate; if the commies can't win then the nazis can't win either.
Does that make sense to you?

As for now you are losing thanks to muslim terrorism, feminism, homoism and other gifts of leftism. People don't support your cause. Infact they hate it so much that it's the only reason we're seeing a spike in popularity of Not Socialism. They're simply too civilized and well off to say that you need to be hanged, drawn and quartered. That however may not be the case in the far future. In terms of survival it would make sense to ensure that you can pack heat incase the tides get more violent. Unless of course you want to keep playing your bitch mouth all the way to your shallow grave, which is really not that bad of an idea considering what your idealogy has achieved so far.

Yes. That's right. I'm spoon feeding you strategy on how to not die.

Starting your own army is illegal and will most certainly turn liberals against.

Starting your own network of co-operatives is however 100% legal and I have never actually heard somebody say co-ops are bad. People I know who are right wing actually think they are a real good idea. They actually appeal a lot to the run of the mill conservative, I guess that whole self made man being thing has something to do with it.

Even pol/acks/ don't really have a problem with them as I understand it.

nah fam, people don't hate socialism, they just hate immigrants and like to blame it on 'socialists' or 'the left'.

Primarily in Britain at least though from talking to people thats because they see the left as having betrayed it core values, which it has.

I know you can see beyond your ideology!
You only have to try!

I'm not your average Holla Forums user. I'm here trying to reason with you. I'm not going to give you links or citations because you'll ignore them. Instead this is what I'm going to tell you:

Do a little bit of introspection; it takes a leap of faith to stay in one's political stance even when it keeps on failing. Infact, one can become blind to events and their true nature due to that.

Let me pat you on the back; there are plenty good traits in socialism and it's been demonstrated in some places… but socialism on it's own fails, because it's totaliarism. Why? Because it's in the human nature to exploit things and the dumber you are the more you get exploited.

This isn't about political idealogy of anykind. It's about the continent not shitting itself for the third time.

If you're going to get all pissy over few cheeky jokes then the only help you need is professional.

we take all the mops and use them to beat our bosses to death.

Isn't blanquism much better than capitalism?

What if the working class never develops class consciousness?

Thats what a revolution is. You recruit enough people to seize the means of production.

Git gud fbi.

Everyone here is a neck beard and can do jack shit.That's why.

cuz lefties are fattys and cant run from cops

No I would debunk them

Give me them.

No bitch I read. My feelings don't matter.

Name one example of Not Socialism working. Your MEFO bill economy was a joke/jewish ponzi trick from the start.

You do realize that the USSR destroyed Nazi Germany right? I'm not even a tanky.

>but socialism on it's own fails, because it's totaliarism

Where and when did it fail, what did it fail to do, and how did it fail to do this, this is a useless platitude that is actually completely ahistorical.

1)Totalitarian is a liberal buzzword.

2)

Like clockwork. Prove this statement. I would say it is human nature to do the exact opposite. If your friend asks you to pass the salt, do you pass the salt or not?

If a stranger asks you for directions, do you give them directions or withhold them?

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This isn't about political idealogy of anykind. It's about the continent not shitting itself for the third time.

This means absolutely nothing.

Please qualify any 1 of your ludicrous statements

Because we all have stuff to do, so we are not focused on politics all the time. People have jobs, friends, families etc… You can't just throw away everything and sacrifice your life for the cause. Reform doesn't work, and revolution is too risky, I think we have to find a third way.

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