Blizcucks

They could have not fucked up. They could have made this instead of WoW.

they fucked up by making WoW.
they fucked up by making D3
they fucked up by making SC2
they fucked up by making Blizzard(TM) DoTA

The only thing they didn't colossally fuck up was waifuwatch and Blizzard(TM)Magic The Gathering for Babies.

Their only success is in a new IP and dumb cross over game. Why? Because very few of the people involved with the IPs you liked still work for Blizzard. In Diablo's case Blizzard didn't even really make Diablo, they acquired Condor games which was rebranded Blizzard North who made Diablo, most of these guys moved on after Diablo 2 and the remnants were pushed out of the company during D3 development.

Do you really expect nuBlizzard to be able to make a proper WC4?

Get fucked by a raging obese faggot with AIDS, indeed.

Feminists approve your concern, op.

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What the fuck does your post have to do with anything? Are you a fucking bot?

the mockup is horrible and whoever made it should feel bad for doing so.

Sure Warcraft lore is irredeemably fucked by this point, but you can't tell me that knowing the money fountain WoW became that you or anyone else would do any different.

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I didnt analyze the image.
I just searched for a WC4 image.
rule 63 is god damn cancer

Are we talking financial, critical or technical fuck up?
Basically all of their games since Burning Crusade have been technical fuck ups, but you can argue that even Warcraft 3 had flaws, it was just redeemed by its competitive play and custom games.
Financially I don't think any of their games have been a failure.

Nothing wrong with WOW.
Well except it should have closed 10 years ago.

Yes, making the most popular MMORPG ever was a really bad fuck up

SC1 remaster though
Jk I'm actually confident they'll fuck that up too, I'm extremely worried about them retconning this "Artanis was the original executor" meme even harder into SC1, it pisses me right the fuck off. *I* was the one leading charges against the zerg hive cluster with Fenix and Zeratul, *I* was the one who rescued Tassadar (twice), not that upstart piece of shit faggot
Also the comic-book style graphics make some of the units look copy-pasted unto there. They seem to have done well with protoss, but for zerg, looking at a queen's nest on creep, it looks out of place, and entirely out of SC1's aesthetic, which is based off disturbing realism
also
eh, blizzdrones were a better insult imo, cuck doesn't flow as nicely with the blizz prefix


It actually was, look what they've done to MMORPGs as a result. They started out well and lost their way, it truly is a shame.

Yeah they set a good example of how to make an mmo, what a horrible thing
mmo's being dead has nothing to do with blizzard and everything to do with mobas, specifically LoL and overwatch

They set up a good example *initially*, but also made every other MMO a pathetic copy-paste, then they themselves turned shit and all others turned shit in suit.
The other cancers deserve just as much blame, but if blizzard hadn't fucked up, there might be a chance of good MMOs still popping up
This doesn't have to do with MMOs being dead, this has to do with MMOs now usually being shit, and assfaggots is utterly irrelevant to that; its its own special breed of cancer

So LoL has killed how many genres? Because you complete retards at least claim that it has killed two entire genres on its own. Give me the name of each genre LoL has killed.

I wouldn't say LoL outright killed any other genres. But according to Riot that game has more than 100 million active players, you can't say that this didn't damage other genres in someway and took their players

As soon as you give me an example of how many sites facebook has killed with its ubiquity
That's a stupid fucking question to ask, LoL has done an absurd amount of damage to gaming in general, and if you're retarded enough to believe otherwise, you need to do some research of your own
I won't even get into the fact that Riot (and Blizzard for that matter) are effectively owned by Tencent, probably the most evil company/conglomerate currently walking the face of the earth.
Get your head out of your ass user
Get your mind

WoW was never good and never will be. Popularity does not equal quality. By your logic, Overwatch is the best FPS, League of Legend is the best DoTA clone and Diablo 3 (which no-one fucking plays) is the best ARPG of all time.

Popularity doesn't equal quality, but that doesn't mean WoW wasn't good, you mong

That's wrong. The game had flaws, sometimes deep ones depending on which class you played, but it was still a good game. It's popularity peaked at the same time that they started ruining the game, so no, it wasn't best when it was popular, it was best when it was providing a complex RPG experience where depending on your class/faction you had to do many different things for the raid, like getting the right resistances for armour, getting soulstones, maxing your profiency etc etc.

In my post I didn't say it was good, I just said it wasn't a fuck up. And no it wasn't you fucking retard

t.Autistic addicted Blizzdrones
WoW was never good, especially not in 2004

t.NoArgument

Nigger I only played the 7 day trial for WoW like 6-8 years ago, but it was so damn fun and addictive that I could tell I'd enjoy the fuck out of that game if I had cash to blow; maybe its because I'd never played anything like it before. It likely was really fucking amazing back in like 2006 or something

You realize those were always fake numbers and was proven wrong on basically thousands of occasions right?

It was a good digital surrogate for a social life.

Alright so you're a complete retard who creates blame, but is not willing to take responsibility for it. Fuck off cuck.

That's wrong you fucking jew. It was good until 2007

Nigger I don't fucking care about your whining, I'm right, you're wrong, keep being a faggy apologist for a cancer genre of video games
Tell me I'm wrong in anything I've stated
Pro tip: you can't, and if you don't think Tencent isn't working to actively kill vidya that is competing with their hedged interests, you're a fucking retard
ubiquity in video games is just like ubiquity anywhere else, it creates cancer wherever it goes
Keep defending Chinese cancer companies and shitty, unfun video games, nobody will ever love you, you sad faggot.

Source?

Not how it works newfag


I played for 6 months, got my mount and ended it right there.
Played on a private server for 1 month with boosted XP gain years later.
Got to level 37
Stopped playing, realized I could be playing better shit just like I had done years ago.

WoW is trash in both its gameplay and roleplay value which is better done in sandox MMORPGs.
Of course all the fags that fell for the marketing and followed the same normalfag herd thag plays ASSFAGGOTS nowadays will never admit this considering they wasted hours of their time on this garbage.


So is any other game thats not a shitty fucking timesink with pretty skyboxes.

You're wrong in anything you've stated.

Source: Every thread where it was disproven in multiple ways since circa 2013.

I remember one of the ways being a fanmade thing that spied on the person and sent information to a server in order to create statistics which was popular. And even if you increased the amount of people the program ended up reaching by 100 fold it was still nowhere near 100 million.

Give me a link to one of those threads then. Also they started boasting above 100 million just last year, of course they weren't even close to that in 2013

Yes it is (1)

Sure I'll hop into my time machine and check cuckchan for the threads.
Nope. Or at the very least they were regularly claiming 75-80 million at the time back then.

I'm right in everything I've stated, and unlike you, the facts align with me when I say that.
Feel free to hang yourself, or better yet, slit your wrists till ya bleed out.
I'm gonna go play video games, have fun being a Chinese shill

4chan has an archive you fucking retard, and had several archives for years. And no, they never claimed that much back then. Kill yourself

Even though you refuse to name the genre(s) that LoL has apparently killed. Your silence sure is a great argument, retard.

I thought SC2 was generally pretty successive and moderately liked. I never actually played it, though I played SC1 quite a lot. And WC2 and WC3 for that matter.

successful*

Holy shit, I didn't know Tencent owned Blizzard?
Oh they don't. It's almost like that image is misleading.

and

Go look at it then because I sure as fuck don't know where we can find archives for threads from 2013 considering how often the archive sites were constantly remade and everything was lost. Not to mention you're asking me to search for threads without having any search terms.
Ok who cares, my argument is that they'd cheated with numbers for almost a decade. Anything else is arbitrary and pointless to add.

Jesus this place got worse while I was away; Mark really must've fucked up

Your argument was that you're making shit up and claiming it was true by your imaginary sources, actually

Considering how hard you shitpost, you're going to be going "away" very soon.

Eh, it had some fun missions which interesting map mechanics. The story was awful.

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Maybe if it said
Instead of
Then it would get a pass. But blaming Blizzard going bad on Tencent is just retarded.

Hes stating a fact though
Blizzard is shit because of Activision and nowadays themselves, not fucking Tencent.
They do own Riot though

I never should have bought SC2 even though I had fun in custom games.
I'll never get to play The Thing again.

why is arthas a gril

No, that's not true at all. One of the magical things about MMOs (which all have bad gameplay, every fucking one of them), is that you're combining massive player connectivity with that shitty fucking timesink gameplay, and encouraging players to socialize and network. In fact, you wereforced to socialize and network if you wanted to do dungeons, or even hard quests, this is why the dungeon finder was the last nail in the coffin for WoW, and then cross-realm phasing buried it entirely. If you played in Vanilla (or BC) you probably remember exploring the world, running into someone questing in a similar area, grouping with them, and talking while you cleared the quest. Maybe you made a new friend, or just made yourself a little bit more well-known on your server. Remember all of the time spent forming a group for a dungeon, getting to the dungeon, and then clearing it? Remember how fucking long that took, and no matter how rough it was, people would stick through it because they already spent a lot of time getting there? At the end of something like Maraudon, you could have gotten to know 4 people, and genuinely connected with them.

Fast forward to today, and everyone is completely anti-social, as party members (and even people you meet out in the world) are disposable, as not only can they be instantly replaced, but you'll probably never meet them again. That is what killed WoW.

I just want them to make warcraft IV so I can have some closure and fully leave Blizzard behind.

Warcraft 3 was closure you fucking retard.

You are wrong.

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What do you mean by closure? I thought WoW gave an end to pretty much everything already. Wasn't that what MoP was? Running out of things in original Warcraft and trying something new? Do you mean something with Sargeras or someshit? I thought that dude was going to appear in one of WoW's expansions

You did not play the game.


I have come to terms with the lore a long time ago, the lore was only a small percentage of what was interesting about experiencing Warcraft III anyway. Warcraft III and really the entirety of battle.net 1.0 was just magical, and I can't help but hope that somehow Blizzard manages to recreate that magic in the form of Warcraft IV, even though they failed miserably at SC2 and D3

It took up until SC2 and D3 to let go of Starcraft and Diablo, and I guess it'll be the same for Warcraft.

REMINDER WOW WAS NEVER GOOD AND NEVER WILL BE

Could you imagine nuBlizzard making Warcraft 4?

As little faith as I have in nublizzard I don't think they lack so little creativity, budget, and effort that they'll reduce down to two factions. But they certainly will do something retarded like in SC2 and make one expansion per race.

They fucked up with Warcraft 3 so far as I'm concerned. It was trash, the gameplay was okay, but the plot and """art""" style was garbage as all hell.

I played an "rts" like that once, I uninstalled it the second I realized that my units were automatically built and automatically deployed to attack points on the map, what the actual fuck were the developers thinking.

it also gave us WoW themepark and ASSFAGGOTS, truly unforgiveable

I don't think they'd go that extreme. It would probably just be sc2 with a warcraft skin, so in other words a colossal waste of time.

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An RTS was never meant to be made into an MMO.

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I'll never understand this, the best thing to happen to the industry is the death of RTS.

someone will eat this b8

Even through that, stockholm syndrome poopsock raiders still cry out "muh pinnacle of WoW" to this day because they never played Vanilla.

Shitty survival games are now what RTS used to be.
Bad copies of each other, created with incredibly low budgets with very few titles that actually do anything interesting.

They fucked up the from the word go
Their whole success was them ripping of Warhammer
Fuck Blizzard's Liberal use of GW IP is probably why GW is IP Hawks but scared to go against Blizzard due to how big it is

which was a ripoff of Eternal Champions/Elric

Fucking hell you scared me I thought they announced wc4

Which is not a good thing under current year standars

Same shit.
One retard says something that sunds right, but is wrong in virtually every aspect of it and mouthbreathers like yourself keep on repeating it, since thinking by yourself is too fucking hard.
Piss off wrathbaby.

Just because one thing is a rip off doesn't mean ripping off the rip off is good either

Checkmate atheists.

You know what else is fun and addictive? Crack. Is crack good?

REALLY what part of WC rips off anything games Games Workshop did?
you could argue that SC rips of 40k but Warcraft ripping off Warhammer?

First thing would be green orcs. Since the only people who did it before Warcraft was Warhammer. All other forms of media had orcs in shades of grey or something.

Tolkein's orcs?

Not green, no. Not even in the movies.

There were dark green ones the movies you plump dumpling.

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WoW is a fun game though

Remember that its 10 dollars off the expansion right now. It's really fun. come join us!

kill yourself blizzard drone

Flying mounts were a minus to the game but they didnt kill any feeling about the world being alive


When i played it everyone was doing them which means you played on shitty private server with 200 population


Arenas were cancer but you werent forced to play them.


oh right i forgot Vanilla didnt had 10 man raids *cough* Stratholme, LBRS, UBRS, Scholo *couch*


Which were regarded as positive thing by 90% of community ? And how are they different from many other farming things from vanilla max level zones like EPL and Silithus?


Quite the opposite, everyone was doing them even after decking out in full T5 gear


Welfare epics was Wotlk not TBC, sit down wotlk baby.


Confirmed for not playing during TBC and making stuff up.


That happened in Wotlk not TBC but nice try.


There were many hidden zones in Outland and only retarded casuals like yourself didnt bother finding them.


had both T4 and T5 tiers released at launched while Wotlk was unfinished garbage cutting out entire zones and raids and even the features they were advertising on box (like dance studio and air PvP combat, YOU CAN STILL SEE IT ON THE BOX)


Bullshit, only Magtheridon was being changed from time to time because Blizzard overtuned him and his mechanics so he was mathemtically impossible to defeat in T4 gear, Wotlk on the other hand was complete garbage in this regard with Malygos one shotting entire raid in Phase 3, Ulduar being unplayable during the first month and ToC being so bad paladins could chain stun the boss NPCs on HEROIC mode.


Everything they said they would add they did, meanwhile Wotlk is full of cut content.


Eredar lore rape was retarded, everyone agrees but compared to Wotlk lore rape it looks very mild.


You are another retarded Wotlk baby who shits on TBC and thinks vanilla is peak of WoW because you raided shitty scripted Molten Core and Onyxia on Nostalrius with 40 autists on 1.12 talent system.

Double post but dont care.

Picture not just misleading. It tries to use retarded burger patriotism to make you support one trans-national company over another.
It's almost like most of that shit is reverse-written about certain western company that has you and your phone by the balls.

Most retarded part here is that part about copying ==totally original indeed== (((western))) games.
Well they partially right on M&B, except chinese game is MMO and M&B is made by Turks, not "glorious westerners".
What else? Dota and TF were stolen from modders by glorious based gaben.
Feel surge of patriotism yet? Just you wait that fucking shit will make you shove that cheeseburger up your ass! Ready?
A Fucking CCG!
Yep totally original do not steal! Blizzard invented that shit. Nevermind that asians were making tons of that garbage for 30 years and nobody cared until stupid people became general population of PC users.

What's next? Oh the best part! China is winning world war by stealing games! Please support home company like "Gayoware" and "Electronic SJWstein" goyim!
Because if you support US companies they totally not going to invest their assets in ==CHINA== and other countries with cheap workforce! Fight evil today goyim! Play only gay gaymes! :^)

So tell me user, where did Arthas touch you?

where's the god damn draenai porn

if there ever was going to be a Warcraft 4 it would be sometime after the Horde and Alliance join forces so the factions would just be Azeroth versus whatever.

You don't like it because the normalfags like it, hipster

Burning Crusade had a fantastic end game quest 'web' so to speak, and many good raids, albeit the last wasn't the best.


This is a joke right?
Is it because, maybe, they're all RTS, and as a result all feature some degree of base building, troop management, resource management, teching, expansion etc? Because there's no way you believe Age of Empires, Command and Conquer and Warcraft 1 were similar, and they were all pioneers of the genre, who went very different directions. You'd be retarded to believe they were all copies.

user it's bait

Yeah but which one

the RTS one

I don't know anything about Warcraft lore, where do I start.

warcraft 1?

1 is a terrible game though.
Better to just listen to the mission audio if he wants the lore.


Two if you don't have a problem with jumping through a few hoops to get it working, otherwise just 3 and the expansion although you'll really be missing out in case you decide to skip two.
Alternatively, there is a custom campaign of the first game completely remade for the third but it is incredibly difficult.

i wish 1 would have gotten the remaster instead of starcraft

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WoW was a fuckup in a lot of ways, but there is no denying it made $$$. Blizzard's biggest fuckup was selling out to Vivendi though. That's when the staff just up and left and you only had idiots running the asylum. Even WoW could have been have decent if it wasn't taken over by EQ cancer and then idiots with no notion of game design. WoW was originally a pretty ambitious game, but Blizzard talent left the building the moment Vivendi bought up Blizzard, which was shortly before WoW was even launched.

And it's not like Blizzard needed the money. It was just a dumb move.

Get better taste in horses.

You forgot the part where they made paladins and shamans available to both factions and nerfed the shit out of any and all vanilla items along with creating that garbage levelscaling rating system.

Since this is sorta the designated wow thread. Could any anons tell me how the game is going? Last I heard they were hemmoraging subs and created a new version of the garrison system but worse, or some such shit. They also apparently hired a gay furry for class balancing, who plays wow on his tablet or some ridiculous shit?

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You're like those faggots that like to reminisce whine about "when muh Holla Forums was gud".

The game is doing great, don't listen to the haters.

Two factions only could work if you had c&c generals or age of mythology type mechanic that let you massively customise the units and bonuses your faction recieved.

epic

We stopped doing greenface around 2007, now you need to have a mask if you want to join.

When did Africa get so rad?

Want to hear a fun story?

A few years back, our town was holding a Tolkien-themed event at a library and we did a small orc performance. Later that day while I was on a smoke break, one of the security guards came up to me, laughing his ass off. I asked what was going on and he said that an elderly woman had asked him if we were real Africans.

Neither was EA's Ultima Online.

Nice try again, Ian. But nobody is going to buy WoW after what you fuckers did to it.

they died in 2012 when (((activision))) bought them over
lrn2economics commie kiddo, weak bait

Orcs are niggers.

it's their last expansion ever, they're at less than 1 million subscribers

The peaks of WoW
1. Old Naxxramus
2. Icecrown Citadel
3. Legion launch

The best times to PLAY WoW
1. Anytime between 2005 and Old Naxxramas.
2. WotLK up until and during patch 3.3.30
Aka Fall of the Lich King.

The series soul died with Arthas as during warcraft 3 they had killed off all the heroes from warcraft 1 and 2 and the two central characters of WC3 were Arthas and Illidan.

Really Illidan shouldnt have been in Burning Crusade and instead mysteriously disappeared and then the boss we fought qould have been kil jaedan as well as fighting a brainwashed and corrupted Kael Thas (so instead of being evil by choice and ruining his character he was turned into a tool against his will).
Then in WotLK we start hearing legends of deathwing and start getting introduced to his lore in extra dungeons and quests then we fight Arthas and then Deathwing and during Deathwing we hear about how Lady Azshara is trying to summon the legion and we end up fighting her (on land mostly) and then Sargeras kills her after we defeat her and uses her soul/magic to bullshit archimonde back to life. He is the final boss of this xpac and it leads directly into Legion where Illidan comes and helps out. This would also have the added benefit of giving more time to the Old Gods as they were the ones who turned the Highborne into Naga as well as allow us to not only off another one of them but also have a good expansion instead of MoP. Then after Legion we could go fight the Old Gods and the Void Lords.

So, I played Wc2. Diablo 1. good shit good times 1993ish, SC came along good times.. I was playing Everquest.. the golden age of computer games.
WoW comes along steals the playerbase for casual shit cartoon shit somewhere in there we get D2.
I wait over 10 years for D3 and when it arrives I'm in BestBuy and I pick it up and I just don't fucking care anymore, I don't buy it, not worth 75$ jewbucks.
A couple years later someone gives me an account.. can't be bothered to fucking play it.
Fuck Jewzard.

I have a ps1 and theres a used copy of wc2 and xpac that i can buy at a local shop for like 24 dollars plus tax.
Should i?

Wings of Liberty was, but it didn't fly so good in Korea. Heart of the Swarm's lackluster success and reception generally meant that Blizzard gave up on it hence why the last segment of the game wasn't even advertised that much. Kerrigan Star Child, I will never forgive or forget.

D2 was years before WC3 and WoW. I assume you just meant D3?

Legion is fun though.
come play with us!

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This won't happen.
Not that it matters. There will never be a WarCraft 4 nor a StarCraft 3. Genre is dead.
What could happen is a World of WarCraft 2 or maybe a World of StarCraft.
HearthStone 2 or OverWatch 2 are more likely to happen, or maybe a completely new genre depending on what non-Blizzard games people are playing.

dont know if i should of made a new thread or not but heres some more entertainment from blizzard.

Weren't all those games successful, financially speaking?

Except you are wrong. Completely wrong. WoW was like winning the lottery forever. It allowed them the freedom to make any game they wanted, and take as long as they damned well pleased.

Of course they fucked this up but whatever.

And how much bitching would there have been had there been hostile pve fliers and pvp flying combat was a thing?

Warhammer ripped off a hell of a lot more than that.

They fucked up by making a game that made more money then all their other games put together. Okay.