If you're fine with weebery, Etrian Odyssey is fucking great.
Carter Russell
Eye of the beholder Dungeon Master Stonekeep
All the Eye of the Beholder games are on gog Stonekeep is also on gog but its ugly and might not be to your liking. There is also Anvil of Dawn but it has no party formation. Then there is Lands of Lore which are a series of really braindead games which you could play if you're desperate.
Benjamin Wilson
Cheers, will check them out.
How do they compare in length to Grimrock 2? That game felt quite meaty, took me around 22 hours to beat.
Connor Jones
haha no.
YES also try Might and Magic 3 and 6
Christian Green
I've played Might and Magic VI: mandate of heaven. Loved the game but it's not a grid based RPG like grimrock.
Jaxson Wright
Etrians are generally 30-60 hours. Start with 3 or 4.
Xavier Walker
be warned they have no puzzles like grimrock
John Russell
What's wrong with you people?
I have finished LoG1, and it hadn't blown me away. There are several older games that are superior in any aspect besides graphics. Be quiet until you play them first.
In Stonekeep you control one character, not a party. And there are three each of Dungeon Master and Eye of Beholder games.
Wyatt Ward
M&M 4+5: World of Xeen is a grid based RPG.
Dylan Bennett
Because Wizardry is turn based compared to other things mentioned. Aside from that Wizardry is more like jrpg compared to other dungeon crawlers.
Hudson Ortiz
Since almost all good ones are already mentioned: How about some nice Hybrid: Amberstar and Ambermoon for the Amiga
or Bloodwych, Menzoberranzan, Dungeon Hack, Black Crypt
Sebastian Johnson
The latter ones have lots of puzzles, usually involving FOE movements and environmental changes.
Wizardry 8 is not. 'Real' time is the default mode there. I could mention other titles, like the Ishar series, but they are not as fun to play.
Daniel Gutierrez
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Cooper Green
Combat is isometric there and it sucks. You can only use bows in cardinal directions.
Brody Jackson
Back then when DSA setting and rules were still acceptable. Does anyone know if they changed anything for the american release, because if not the reviews at the time suggested that they were too stupid for the simple system of DSA.
Dylan Adams
If you recommend them, why won't you mention Betrayal at Krondor as well?
Evan Evans
No user, you suck.
Sure, but why not Albion or Ishar as well?
If I remember correctly each game in the trilogy used somewhat tweaked and modernized rules as opposed to standard pnp.
Samuel Ortiz
Lang lang ist es her. Danke.
Elijah Hill
I'm so glad the devs recently got back together to work on mobile games.
Wyatt Brooks
GRORIOUS NIHON COMING THROUGH
Jack Long
Try typing any argument why it doesn't. Jumping between different perspectives is immersion breaking.
Gabriel Robinson
None of you children know about the best dungeon crawler of the 1980s, disappointing.
Ian Morgan
Bitte.
Because I can remember when games had 5+ combat phases and a separate screen for each of them, because I can appreciate why that system existed or how efficient it was, or maybe because I enjoy turn based grid combat and the comfy gameplay it usually provides?
Or how about because you're a duplicitous piece of shit pushing reddit tier reasoning to justify a personal preference no one really asked you for while providing no real muh arguments of your own?
Wizardry's better.
Isaiah Miller
How old are you? Older than your mental age? What you remember is still immersion breaking, despite being a nice memory to you. Don't push coding/system limitations as intentional features. I like roguelikes in ASCII, but I don't shittalk others who prefer using tilesets or even modding them to isometric view.
Brody Sanders
No user, you just post arbitrary shitbait on mongolian imageboards.
Luis Davis
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Brayden Powell
Wizardry 8 is the best dungeon crawler ever made.
Jason Cox
The developer team behind the unfinished Amber trilogy also made two other RPGs that played similar. One is Dragonflight, which is older than Amberstar. The other is Albion, which is newer than Ambermoon. If you haven't played either of them yet, I recommend to at least play Albion. It's very similar to Ambermoon. Some guy recently ported the game from DOS to Windows, Linux and OpenPandora.
Ayden Ward
Shame there are so few actual dungeons.
Jaxson Evans
It isn't Grimrock 3, but some of the devs got back together and recently announced a new game called Druidstone.
Landon Sanchez
Grimrock allowed custom portraits, so I had a team made of the winds of destruction Are there any other games that let me shitpost through custom portraits?
Gavin Morgan
stranger of sword city
Jaxon Scott
Preferably a good game.
Cameron Collins
sword city wasn't that bad. i got a real etrian odyssey vibe from it
Dominic King
This is just a meme game that got popular for a brief moment because you could add custom portraits. The fact no one ever talks about the gameplay tells a lot about it.
Christopher Hall
you're posting in the wrong place , >>>/4chan/ is down the hall to the cuck
Andrew Flores
I don't know if it's a good game or not, but honestly there's hardly anything to talk about when it comes to dungeon crawling. Boss advice you can get in any strategy guide, most challenges can be overcome just by leveling higher even if your party set-up is sorta dumb.
Etrian has a lot of discussion but it's all based around build advice because leveling is painfully slow and the translations are bad/wrong so the only way to understand how your skills work is to ask someone with more experience.
Zachary Walker
Am I a retard if I can't beat the first one?
Brandon Roberts
I think the first one had much more difficult puzzles and enemy encounters. The second game I found way more interesting because you're not in the same dark dungeon the whole time, but because you could farm food/ingredients so easily there were very few points where you'd be overwhelmed by enemies.
James Perry
Is there any mod that fixes the builds of Grimrock 2?
Jace Smith
This game is very nice and beginner friendly, thanks for recommending it