NEETdom

I personally don't have the balls for it, but don't you think being a NEET is the ultimate fuck you to late stage capitalism? Labor participation is falling in the US for a reason. We are so efficient that we don't need everyone to work, or for them to work 40 hours per week.

Yes

Abolish work

Workers of the world, relax!

NEET currently. Wish it were sustainable, but unfortunately is not as an American. I want to spend my time coding, but I've got to get some shitty retail job to feed myself.

Sure.
You're gonna die of hunger and capitalism will still be there.

Lol

NEET here, it has positives and negatives.


You can't get a job as a developer there?

I see around Reddit and Quora stuff like "I barely learned coding 2 months ago and I got a $40k salary job…"…

neet lumpenproles will be put against the wall

Imagine the capitalist robots :)

Better go with the anarkids and their "General Strike" thingy.

I would have to go full Stirner if I wanted to be neet.

There is no robot as versatile as the human being, there wont ever be one

A human needs only 1500kcal to survive

So to compete with robots you should literally be a slave and work only for food?

Problem solved

What do you mean?

Robots cannot make the same work humans do, robots are not self-healing, self-reproducing, able to function on most climates, be able to transport themselves, capable of learning as fast, and so on an certainly not for the same amount of energy

Robots wont be able to compete with humans

Not in 1st world countries.

Capitalism is destroying itself.

Very good, my porperty

How do people remain NEET for long periods of time? How do they not starve to death or end up homeless?

But they can do the most work cheapest. I'm looking forward for a future where only 1% of the people are employable.

1. They have someone take care of them
2. They work enough to have months of grace periods
3. They are professional squatter and know how to "borrow" Internet

They get an austismbox…

Ok.
You can be homeless too if you want.
Tell me more, on how you're gonna get food without having your surplus value exploited?


Till when?

That's what I'm doing, and it's not NEET. It's Freeter.

That doesn't answer the "how are you gonna get food" part.

Oh and "1st world" is meaning less and less as neoliberalism takes over.

Money comes from the government. Rich people pay most of the taxes. You deposit the cheque in the bank, and put a bit in the stock market since interest rates are 0%.

Sure.
Unless, it's 2017 and the rich want to pay less taxes, and the economy is shit and the stock market is going down, and how long till neoliberalism cuts your social programs and so on?

The only way to be a NEET is socialism.
(Except you'll have to do your hours of mandatory labor, untill all is automated)

They die or get sick of them, in which they commit suicide or find someone else.

NEET stand for Not Employed, in Education or Training so if you have no job, not in school, or doing any training and sitting at home all day, you are a NEET.

"Borrow" it


Also if welfare can be had, then it shall be had.

I do not like this prospect…

Oh!
So NEETs ARE lumpens! Ok.
Freeter is fine and has more classcon.

I find that a little hard to believe. Definitely can't get a job here so I'm hoping to pull something together and move when my lease is up. After dropping out of college I have nothing to show. Was hoping to spend a year building a portfolio to show to potential employers, but I don't know if that will work.

In my country taxation is quite progressive. The stock market always goes up long term. Social programs aren't going anywhere here.

You're just paranoid.

Just steal everything my man. Communist egoism is the way.

Option 2 and 3 are always open

You might as well say niggers and degenerates if you want to throw aside people you deem unworthy of your abstract idea.


How can I steal what is already mine :^)

that's as likely as the anarcho syndicalist: we will all strike and rebolution habben xdddd

neets have a function in capitalism as a surplus labour + their pathetic life makes people work hard

Ye.. It's not like there is a general pressure to move towards a cyberpunk dystopia, by the threat of "you need to lower taxes to give capital motive to invest" or anything. Am just paranoid.

Being in the reserve army of labor and being a lumpen is not the same.
A lumpen parasite will only be a burden on society even after the revolution and so on.

Unless, you force them to do their minimum amount of work, and so on.

"Lumpens" are a parasite because they see no other choice but to leech
Why should they work? They don't want work, they want their needs. They don't need your work.

That's because they have no classcon.

If you need to eat, you have to either cook or have someone cook for you.
If someone is to cook for you, it has to be in their self interest to do so.
So, unless you do your share of labor, why should you have your needs covered? In whose self interest would it be to cover them?

Why the fuck would I want to spend my life making some faggot rich? If anything being outside the labor force gives workers more bargaining power with less competition for jobs. This ignores the fact that MOST NEETs aren't in such a position by choice. You're basically worshiping liberal ideology with this obsession with laboring for captialist pigs. Really just helping the porkies by looking down on those that can't work or choose not to.

A NEET isn't handicap to do for themselves had they the ability to do what they wish, which is stopped by the need for money to live as they want. When I said "they see no other choice" it is because the life they lead in a capitalist society prevents them for just living on their own away from everyone, so they must leech whenever they could. You stated that they must work for you to have the life they want which is no different then the capitalism that they are currently under. There is no self interest in doing the share of labor for the NEET because the NEET doesn't want it, the NEET wants his lifestyle.

They are the most aware when it comes to this because they are reminded daily that they are forced to work for someone to live their life.

git gud and read Stirner, skrub

We have a society, cause no one man can do everything for himself.
If you don't want to live in a society, you can live by yourself. And die soon after.
In order to have people do stuff for us, we do stuff for them.

The fact that capitalism is "you do stuff for me, and I give you back some of the stuff you made" has nothing to do with it.

In socialism, you are "forced" to work, for you to live your life.

There are times when I am bored and don't wanna take a bath. But the alternative is for me to stink. Sto I have a bath.
The alternative to not working, in any economic system that isn't fully automated, is starving.

Now, socialism is about you working the way you want and can, for the amount of time you need to and have your basic needs covered.
You want extra? You can work extra.
That doesn't mean "We have to create jobs for everyone to work, even if it's not needed".

BUT.

"I wanna rot in my apartment, fapping to hentai all day, and have my basic needs covered" is not an option.
Until fully automated luxury socialism and so on.

Related

It's definitely not as easy as it's sometimes implied to be. It's a meme.
The developer job market is subject to the same problems as the rest

t. CS grad NEET

THIS IS WHY WE NEED GULAGS FOR BOURGIES!

WTF comrade

Agreed

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Dont worry its a fake m8s

"But they want to be slaves!"

Secondary.

Incorrect
I read that as passive-aggressive and that you don't like that you can't dictate certain people.

Mutual agreement between two people of course

Spook nonsense, you ain't fooling me with that shit.

Capitalism without currency

Fully automated union for NEETs and will never have to work for you


Fucking spooks

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Oo, stealing this.

Welfare

Ok. Why do we have a society then?

Wut? Feudalism is Capitalism with Land then? Wut?

You can make it happen? Fine by me!

I haven't even read the ego, and even I get Spooks better.

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Holla Forums, about how many solar panels would I need in order to power a small one man house?

Necessary addition

all these muh privileged fucking first worldists

>>>/reddit/

I'm a NEET but I make my own money and would like to join society but society is shit. There are currently no paths to advance that dont involving kissing the ass of some piece of shit who made the world shit. It felt good to tell the world to go fuck itself and work on yourself the first couple years but eventually it gets old. Next time you criticize a NEET remember that most of us would gladly be euthanized, so if you aren't offering a cyanide pill or any help piss off.

Is self-employed considered neet now?

I think it makes one's opinion about labor relatively dubious, as there is no, or never was, on site experience.

There is a hand in hand that comes with collectivism and responsibility, it cannot be one or the other. Sometimes, things require a degree of work to gain value to speak on behalf of a subject.

Is this a trap?

I'm all for not working but can we all agree that Bob Black is a despicable human being. If I met him at the supermarket, I'd fuck his shit up next to the watermelons.

They can be repaired. By other robots, even. In certain situations a robot might be back in action quicker than a human would be.
Doesn't matter, they don't die. You'd only replace them in favor of a better model.
Mostly irrelevant. Production doesn't take place in the Arctic or the Sahara.
Not like humans walk everywhere. Automated vehicles can transport robots just fine, just like humans are transported by vehicles.
Many tasks just require you to do a specific thing, not to constantly learn. Even so, advancements in AI could certainly allow robots to develop adaptive problem solving capabilities in the coming decades.
Energy is irrelevant; cost is what matters. And robots are cheaper.
Your arguments are awful.

Honestly, I'm considering credit card fraud for a living. I know this is angsty emo shit, but it's obvious to me by now that the world doesn't have a place for me, so I might as well live the rest of my worthless life on Porky's dime. It's not like he was letting me do anything constructive to begin with.

Pls only steal from rich people when i was younger my mom had her ID stolen and we lived off exclusively EBT :'(

just get in a field like academia

Fun fact: in America, if your card info is stolen but not the card itself, you're not liable for any unauthorized use, and the card issuer has to foot the bill. That's what I meant by Porky's dime. If this was just stealing from random individuals, I wouldn't do it. And sorry about your mom.

Are you confident you won't be caught and get a horrific jail sentence?

I'm trying my best to be safe, tho I guess nothing is foolproof. Worst case scenario, I'll have enough of a time window to an hero. But I'm not in America so I'm much less likely to get arrested, especially since local pigs prioritize monstrous crimes such as using homegrown weed.

I fantasize about shit like this. My ultimate dream would be to live like that.

Was considering getting into carding, but all the good communities for it are Russian and generally don't let foreigners in.