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Supposed to be reading Notes from the Underground but I'm procrastinating on it
Bookchin x Apo homoerotic fanfiction :^)
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How to replicate the success of Communalism in Syria in Burgerland. So far I got nuffin

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On chapter 8, again recommending this book to everyone here. Interesting read and it will help your theory. Read it.

Where i can find any real third worldist /lit/ not that Maoist trash?

So I've just finished reading it or the second time, when do we gather to talk about it?

Honestly, I wouldn't know. But there are Maoists out there that aren't third worldist. I would start looking for those.

There's a discussion thread on the Goodreads page. Someone wanted to do a podcast on it, I'm not super interested but check out the threads over there.

Also I took a short break from reading the book to focus on Zizek's Puppet and the Dwarf. I made it to chapter 2 and then realized that I disagreed with his theology and his book was focusing more on Buddhism than Christianity.

I might try to make a high quality version of my notes that i wrote about this book

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I'm readin the Oddyssey rn. Tryna get through this: docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1y8_RRaZW5X3xwztjZ4p0XeRplqebYwpmuNNpaN_TkgM/pub
Nothing yet
Tryna properly understand Christianity from a communist perspective. I've been reading BBS's "The Real Paul," The New Testament, and a brief christian materialist thing. Also been reading up on a lot of leftcom stuff.

Why not?

I usually just type them on my computer to begin with. It's less troublesome to go through them that way.

keep dropping my flag :(

TBH, I'm pretty skeptical of people like Badiou and Zizek who try to present Paul in a political way. It takes away from the New Testament story if you don't actually think any of it happened, like the events surrounding Paul's conversion or the series of events that preceded it. And then at that point you're not really talking about Paul – you're talking about someone else who kind of looks like him if you squint.

I'll join when you read a better book lamo

People choose the worst books.

Haven't read Zizek yet so I can't really confirm or deny. I was referring to Bernard Brandon Scott's "The Real Paul" and the doc related that I posted. To separate personal from political and say "well Jesus and Paul were not concerned with politics" doesn't make much sense even in theory, but we know historically that their movement was always political. That was the point BBS was trying to make roughly

A portuguese translation of Sexual from Jean Laplanche.
Bored people being boring and why 2d>3d.
How to die in a painless way and not affect anyone, also why does the industrial bourgeois in Brazil often choose the suicidal path.


You mean shit by actual third worlders? If can read some portuguese then I would suggest getting some Jacob Gorender, Nelson Werneck Sodré and Caio Prado Junior.

currently reading The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich. Aside from Shirer's weird homophobia, it's a good read. Very thorough but it's done in a journalistic style rather than the dry academic style of some non fiction, so it's engaging too.

It'll take me a while to get through since it's well over a thousand pages so I might dip into some Bolano short stories too over the coming days.

I dont believe that either. I was just assuming the book you are reading follows a similar pattern: materialist reads parts of the Bible and finds a subversive message, but only after they throw out the orthodox as well. "Of course God doesn't exist. No one really believes that. Etc." the whole approach is just really off-putting.

No I'm not an atheist. I'm actually a bit unclear about my belief in God at the moment which is the main reason I'm reading up on philosophy.

The materialism thing was separate from "the real paul" thing, however neither are atheist. The Real Paul examines the letters of paul which the theological community has generally agreed are authentic and places them in the historical, political context of Rome. It breaks from a lot of Orthodox readings, but it never says "God doesn't exist lol it's all a metaphor" or anything like that.

The christian constitutionalism thing is just cause I don't really like dualism. It doesn't deny that there is a god or that humans can occupy spiritual bodies, but rather contends that entities must be embodied and that there is no clear dividing line between the inner self and our material self as we exist on earth, but rather that our self interacts with and is changed and built by the material world it exists in. Or at least that's my take. I think it ultimately makes christianity a bit more compatible with the sort of Marxist emphasis on material conditions having a major effect on consciousness and beliefs, which I think is a rather reasonable claim to make.

Is it supposed to be difficult figuring out what the hell Stirner is trying to say?

I should be clear though that I am not a marxist nor do I really think christians can be marxists. I just agree with marxists a lot of course.

No you're just stupid, Stirner is a really easy read except for a few heavy esoteric allegories and metaphors. I got through most of that book without confusion

The Christfag is too smart for marxism but not smart enough not be a christfag but instead to just be a nondenominational mystic like a based ass nigga

Fuck, I guess I'm just a retard.

Don't bother my man, Stirner is trash.

Yup, standards of education are significantly lower now for the liberal arts. so most people can't analyze texts or manage half complex metaphord at all anymore. there's this quiz from the late 1800's for a midwestern prep school's 8th grade class and its significantly harder than most of my tests from highschool.

Stirner is wonderful, i just would never subscribe to his belief system or go full Stirnerite because its autistic and self destructive. But 70% of what he says is acceptable and rational

It's literally a waste of time unless you're like 14 years old. Nietzsche is actually good though.

I'm finally reading le spook book. Not very far in but it's quite interesting, I feel like I've gotten a slightly deeper appreciation for the memes while also realizing they only focus on one narrow aspect of Stirner's philosophy.


What is it you find challenging?

…. what? that was pretty incoherent, boio

I have some powerful fringe stuff if any of you are interested…Quite experimental…

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have you seen this?

Maybe it's because I read him on the train to work in the morning, but I often find myself rereading sentences because I didn't fully get what he meant. This barely happens to me, I don't know what the hell my problem is.

The Appeal Of The Submissive Female, Microphilia And Vore Fic
Part 1 Preamble
By
Alexander Gordon Jahans

In which I perhaps most thoroughly assassinate my character since I first showed my man tits on youtube.

This is stupid. This is ridiculously completely unbelievably stupid. The words I write now, once published online, will haunt me for the rest of my life. I know this. I accept this. I am a moron. I am probably pleading with myself desperately right now to close focus writer, step away from the keyboard and chill the fuck out because if I was worried about all the reasons making me want to write this then this post is like throwing gasoline on that fire. I am an utter fucking idiot.

You see I have a confession to make. Not much of one since this channel and my youtube video are full of the evidence but it’s a damning confession all the same.
This is an easily portable confession and display of evidence as to exactly what a homunculus of shit I really am.

I, Alexander Gordon Jahans, being of sound (ish) mind and body do herebye swear before all that matters that I am a cis white English male who enjoys the portrayal of the submissive female, microphilia and vore in fiction.

You’re not supposed to do that. Fetishes and kinks are supposed to be kept quiet behind closed doors. It makes people angry you see. I mean when 40% of Americans still believe god created Adam and Eve and people are finding the idea of marriage between people of the same gender difficult to stomach then suggesting you like to whip or be whipped by another consensually is seen in some circles like vomitting up while somebody is eating. Even if they understand that the vomiting hurt nobody, that it had to be done and wasn’t your fault they’ll feel sickened and annoyed with you all the same.

Except I’m not sure I’d be writing this if I was just interested in a bit of consensual bondage or only looked at porn of this stuff. I write fiction, fiction about women being kept as pets, turned into toys, shrunken and, yes, even eaten. Much of it is on this channel (farsh-nuke.blogspot.com) and on my youtube channel. (youtube.com/user/farshnuke) Already I’m anticipating this going viral in a bad way, may as well link back to the sources, let people research on their own once this gets free booted.

I have another confession to make now, again that people already know, perhaps worse than the first and the reason the first is published.

I am terrified of feminists.

There is a saying the left and feminists love to share around in response to any asshole whining about movements towards equality:

To The muh privileged, Equality Feels Like Oppression

It’s used smugly and patronisingly and often it is deserved but there is a dark truth within that phrase. Be on the right side of history or face its wrath.

Now don’t get me wrong I know Nazis, the Alt-Right, Republicans and Conservatives are the more immediate threat. The Alt-Right know where I live and have sent enough things through the post that the police are ready to swoop in if there’s trouble and have already made one arrest. I am scared in a very literal way about the safety of myself and my family because of the rise of the Alt-Right. I am genuinely concerned that in the next 8 years a new Nazi regime will have to be fought back.

I will never make the mistake of calling feminists feminazis, even the radicals that are most likely to do what I fear, because feminists are smarter than Nazis. They don’t use force and they don’t try to brainwash the weak with appeals to ego that risk fracturing the power base. Instead they use intelligence and wisdom facts. The feminists have one core tenet that is fundamentally impossible to disagree with. They win because they are right and only a fool thinks otherwise and it takes a bigger fool to see that tidal wave of change approaching and think that if they hold firm it will pass them by and won’t utterly swamp them, uprooting many of their friends in the process.

The nazis may kill me but the feminists could destroy my reputation, tattered as it is, and ultimately make me hate myself so much I have nothing left to live for. One of the reasons I used to identify as an anti-feminist and embrace egalitarianism.

You see the feminists are coming for me, I’ve known it for a while and I’ve been in denial for a while too. I thought I wasn’t woman hateric, that I could write what I liked without it coming back to bite me on the arse. Or at least no matter how many times I angsted about feminists I would always return to that perspective before I continued writing. Then in 2016 I was branded

Hit me with something strong, user.

Yeah, it is quite strong, here's part two


Laura Queen of Earth
Quasi-Canonical Podquisition Fanfic
By
Alexander Gordon Jahans

Dedicated to the hosts of the Podquisition
Laura Queen of Mirth
Jim Fucking Sterling Son
Gavin Miracle of Sound Dunne

Nine Worlds Geek Fest 2016 in London.

Jim Sterling and Laura K Buzz, Queen of Butts, are having a private conversation in an empty room.

Gavin enters, long flowing brown hair, devil horn hands as he enters “Oh man! That was so awesome! I mean honestly Charlie McDonnell, what an amazing singer? Regenerate me! Come on, it was awesome and I think they like me so much they want me in their band, I’m going to be in a Doctor Who band, how cool is that?”

Laura hurriedly wipes her eyes.

Jim says genially “That’s really awesome Gavin.”

Gavin pauses, studying the scene “Wait am I interrupting something?”

Jim tries to placate Gavin “No, honestly, mate, it’s fine. Lets grab a drink shall we?”

“Shit” declares Laura, checking her phone.

Jim turns “What?”

Laura starts showing off footage from her phone “Aliens, or Russians or something are vaporising the Houses of Parliament. In fact not just the Houses of Parliament. The White House, the center of the EU in Brussels, every national or international governing body on the entirety of planet Earth are being vaporised, right now, as we speak.”

Jim and Gavin are horrified but unbelieving “It’s not possible. It’s just not possible!”

“Then explain to me who has the money and the power to bribe all the world’s press into believing this is actually possible” says Laura “I mean just look at this”

Jim and Gavin watch a youtube video play on Laura’s phone:

A young white man in a red tshirt is speaking into his phone camera as he walks through London “Hello, My name is Tom Scott and yes, this is really happenning. The Houses of Parliament, and indeed every other national and international government body, are being vaporised but vaporised by what and how?

Well information is sketchy as I hope you’ll appreciate because this technology is well in advance of our own but there are some things we can be certain of. These are being vaporised from orbit. All the evidence makes that obvious but so far there are no ufos or spy satelites to be found but if they have this technology then it is not inconcievable to believe that they have some way to fool our technology. I mean we can already fake most things pretty well given the right software and time so it’s not hard to imagine a world that has software that can effectively photoshop on the fly before we on the ground get the data.

So what are they doing? What is the vaporising? Well scientists don’t know but some rudimentary experiments have been done and it seems that individual atomic particles are just vanishing, literally ceasing to exist and this is happenning slowly. There are still people in the Houses of Parliament and elsewhere and they are dying. Make no mistake they are. It could take hours, it could take days but they are being whittled away piece by piece randomly. Scientists think that when the beams are shut off, if they ever are, there won’t even be dust or air particles left.

I mean yes obviously our atmosphere will fill the vacuum created but the point is that this beam, these beams, will leave literally nothing left.

And people have tried to escape. An MP for Merseyside tried to leave and he was vaporised in a matter of minutes. It wasn’t a pleasant way to go. At this point there are serious discussions about just mercy killing everyone inside because well there can’t be much worse things to suffer than very slow atomic disintegration and annhialation.

So why are they doing this? Well we don’t know. Nobody knows but it’s not hard to imagine why. Think about what this is: vaporising all the Earth’s national and international governing bodies over an agonisingly slow amount of time so as to decapitate the Earth’s political structure overnight and display your might and power in a way that will scare off any attempts at rebellion.”

TOO STRONG FAM

I'm also pretty sure reading it off my phone doesn't help.
I like paper books, dammit.

The swastika on his chest keeps me from saving it.

Edit it out fam

Lemme edit that out for ya…