Splatoon Thread -Tenta Missiles Edition

This kinda scares me for Tower Control tho. We're going to have Tower Control again, right?

I'm pretty sure that image has been edited

will cute anemone lolis be making a return?

Say that to my face, not online, and see what happens.

fug

If you're talking about the crowbcat video, EVERY console has issues on launch.

Doesn't excuse it, and I will still have to wait for them to fix it. Maybe by then it'll have a bigger library and bayonetta 3

Everyone's seen the video, but you have to go hunting to hear that most people haven't had any issues outside of the common "strong signals confuse the left joycon" problem.

As for paid online, I haven't done too much research into it, but from what I've heard it's going to be like 10 bucks a years, which is chump fucking change. It's still shitty, but if they can promise a better experience of dedicated servers off of that instead of the p2p shit we've dealt with forever that's not going to be too much of an issue.

You're kinda fucked right now though if you don't have a switch yet, because the supply is drops of water in a desert. I ended up getting a bundle that has shovel knight, zeld and zelda dlc, snipperclips which I hadnt even heard of but it's apparently a puzzle game, and shovel knight treasure trove. It ended up being around 470 USD, but it's guarenteed to get it and ship by end of month, and I totaled the current cost of games and it pretty much equaled the price of everything that came with it, so I went for it. I knew I was going to eventually crumble for spla2n anyway so why not get it now. And as a bonus it'll get shipped straight to my door.

I have to agree that the Switch doesnt have much of a first party library right now but at least the indie games are going strong, mainly because they priced their indie dev kit really low.

I forgot to add it also gave me Fast RMX which looked interesting.

I don't understand why someone would have one at all at this point. What does it have right now, other than a version of Zelda that isn't much better than the Wii U version, which can be easily modded to pirate the game. Splatoon 2 isn't coming out for months, and there's a chance they may release a special edition of the console for it with a better price. The only thing we know about the price of online is "2,000-3,000 yen per year, which is between $17.63 and $26.44."

You just burned 470 snails on something that might be good later on.

I want one in the first place because I like the idea of a portable console (battery life not withstanding) and because I already know I like zelda. I bought and played the wii u version. I regret not getting a Switch then because between the two versions they have basically the same flaws, but the Switch version looks better and I think it's a game that should be appreciated for its looks and aesthetic. Again, I know i'm going to get Spla2n anyway and I want to get a Switch while I can, and early, so I'm not fighting an uphill battle if supply remains an issue.

As for special edition potential, I don't really care. I'm not the kind of guy who needs that kind of stuff, and you're full of shit if you think that they'll release a deal that soon after the Switch was released for less money.

I've already modded my 3ds, mostly because I didnt think pokemon sun and moon were worth the price (and I still don't even after beating moon), but I don't buy games I don't like, and I don't buy things very often. I'm willing to splurge a little on things I do want, and I do think that the price is worth it for things that I do consider good games like Breath of the Wild, Shovel Knight, and Spla2n.

Honestly I used to be right there with you on both the Switch being not quite ready yet because of issues and the fact that you'll have to pay for the online. As I said above, learning that most of the big issues are affecting a small amount of people and fact that the online was going to be cheaper than I thought (and hopefully better, still crossing my fingers on that). Beyond that I don't know why it stopped bothering me. I guess the only thing I can say is I looked at it from a different perspective and that changed my mind. If I do get one of the major issues, I went in knowing that knowledge so I can't and wont complain.

I don't mind spending money on something that "might" be good later on because I'm getting something good that I can play now, and really when I stepped back and looked at the risks vs the rewards I realized that 470 snails wasn't that big of a deal in the long run for something that'll be fun. If you can't afford it or don't want to put that money in that's your own choice, but for me I found it agreeable.

Is he German or a Jew? I could never tell since his son is Kim Jong Un.

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Mate, TC might be the least of your worries. Have you even thought about the comebacks for Splat Zones when landing? Or breaking a Rainmaker Shield using this (and still getting a RM shield explosion in the process).

With Tower Control it might be easy to avoid if the area of effect is only on a horizontal plane of the Splashdown landing point (Some of the Treehouse footage looked like a Splashdown could be avoided if on a slope below the AoE).

INK WITHIN, INK WITHOUT

i think its still scarier in tower control because you have to stand on a tiny little objective. if youre standing in the splat zone youre taking a risk in the first place, if you arent, you could maybe follow it up with your own secret move. or a sprinkler, it doesnt seem that huge.

maybe cover such as the tower itself will block it. i dont know how i would feel about that though. can you even choose where you land or is it only a modified super jump?

NO FREE ONLINE NO BUY

I really hope so

That crowbcat video is misleading as hell. I haven't had any technical issue with my Switch console so far.

I'm sure you'd think there would be something wrong with breakfast cereals if I recorded videos of rats inside the boxes and put them in a compilation video for everyone to see.

It's over, man. Give it up.

Those who have one right now wont have to shell out $300 on top of whatever game they'll be purchasing.

Take care of the big purchases now so that you don't have to worry about expensive first time initial purchases later.

Remember all the people who were saying things like.

Well, I bought a Wii U at launch. Guess what problem I didn't have that others apparently did?

The point is that if you know that there are about two or three games that you want to play that are exclusive to the system, you might as well get the big purchase out of the way right now. Otherwise you're just going to continue to put off the initial price tag until it becomes too big to justify when you add all the stuff you want to play on top of the console and then you just don't play the games at all.

And not playing a video game is a tragedy of its own.

Addendum: Think about what the biggest hurdle is when people say they haven't got their powerful PC rig yet. Ask anyone who hasn't set theirs up yet, and they'll tell you it's because of the high initial cost.

After all, you'll be spending between $600-900 in a CPU, RAM sticks, motherboard, CD-drives, PSU, case, either a HDD or SSD for storage, and the graphics card if you want to actually future-proof your rig for five years or so.

And for what? There isn't any major PC game out there that can't be played on some other platform, and emulating is such a fickle and tricky science that it's 2017 and we still can't even get N64 emulation down to a science.

Again, my point is that you might as well just purchase a console and do it early as possible to offset a massive initial purchase cost later down the line.

The need to remind people that it's unacceptable and that they're pieces of shit for giving in to it is never over.
Never.

Never

At shittier framerate, resolution, without mods, at a higher price, possibly with paid online, with worse graphics, with longer loading times, and so on and so on. Don't be a fucking retard, even PC versions that are considered shitty ports are generally far superior to the console versions, with a handful of exceptions where they fucked up the port so bad it's better to emulate the console version.

Or you could be an intelligent human being and save up your money until you can tell the product you want actually is worth getting.

Besides, buying any console that forces you to pay to play online is objectively stupid and anyone doing it is a fucking moron and ruining the industry.

You are some kind of special fucking moron. I buy things when they are worth buying, not when they have the potential of being worth the price down the road.
And if those games had been shit, which you could only speculate on before playing, your purchase would not be valuable. Just because one purchase worked out, doesn't mean another will.
What fucking logic is this? Three of the games you listed I got FOR FREE because I waited to buy the Wii U when it had a better library, and when the console was on sale. I didn't miss out on anything by waiting, and I got a better deal because of it.
There are many games that are not worth playing at all.
You are amazingly retarded if you actually believe this. PC has the largest library of video games, and there are a shit ton of games worth playing that you can't play on console.
Or you could wait till you get a better deal.

You're trying to portray this as if you've made a good purchase, but anyone with half a fucking brain can see that you wasted a lot of money for dubious reasons at best.

Imma see if I can stea.. I mean borrow my friends switch so when their is a test fire I'll hopefully stream it

Are you getting paid for these posts?

Jews can't make good burgers.

There's literally no difference in waiting until Splatoon 2 comes out to get a Switch and getting a Switch now and keeping it on ice in your living room until Splatoon 2 comes out. In the end, you're still probably gonna be paying 360 dollars and for some people buying the Switch and the game they want at different times is easier on their budget, just like any pay-in-segments plan.

It's called consumer foresight. Why do you think people preorder anything? It's because they're expecting the product to be good either because they've been convinced by good marketing or they have relative experience with that company or the people who made X product that they can safely predict that the product is going to be something they'll want to purchase. If user bought a Wii U at launch and ended up liking the first party games Nintendo put on it, it's a perfectly safe bet for someone with his tastes to buy a Switch early unless he has some reason to believe that Nintendo's products for the Switch aren't going to maintain that same quality. Some people don't need to wait for all the metacritic scores before they decide if that game is a game they'll want and for some people paying 60 bucks to get a game early rather than waiting 6 months to a year to buy it for 40 isn't a big deal.

Some people like getting stuff early. I regret buying Splatoon and a Wii U as late as I did cause I missed out on all the earlier Splatfests and threads when the hype train was at maximum. And there's a whole lot of games out there I wish I had bought and played at launch.

It also has the highest volume of pure fucking garbage because of that.

So what? What if the only games I'm interested in are either console exclusives or the PC ports of Triple A games that are also available on console? I only have so much time to play so many video games, I'm not gonna waste time on a bunch of shovelware for my PC or games that don't interest me just cause it's "exclusive" on the PC platform. I only have so much time in my life to play so many games. It's always wiser to invest only in what you know you're gonna play and what you're gonna play enough. I say this as someone who does recognize that the PC is the better investment in the long term: the exclusives argument will always a non-argument because while the PC has more exclusives, most PC gamers themselves don't play even half these exclusives as much as the bigger PC/console multiplats or as much as they do something like Minecraft or as much as they might play a Mario game on a Nintendo console.

Maybe you could stop acting like some poorfag trying to justify his non-purchases.

It's a good purchase if he got what he wanted.

Futa is gay

No.

I suppose you could say that I revel in being some sort of anti-contrarian. A lot of people on Holla Forums is so quick to piss on certain things and concepts such as buying a console at or near launch or paid online that it's almost like a knee-jerk reaction, or as if it's the natural and right thing to do, as opposed to looking at it from a different perspective.

For example, let's take a look at a good analogy for paid online: Subscription-based Television, or Pay TV as it was called. In the early 1970s, some grassroots organizations had resisted the growing trend, claiming that cable companies wanted people to pay for channels that they were already receiving for free. Fast forward to the 1980s and 90s, and just about every household had either cable or satellite, and the reason why was that the content provided by these companies in exchange for a subscription fee was world's beyond what they could receive for free. In short: They bought into a product and got a decent sense of value out of it.

Xbox Live introduced itself as a paid online service in 2002 for Xbox consoles, providing a centralized online account for users so that online handles and friends lists were universally used throughout the entire library of Xbox Live games and not just being limited from game to game. Amazingly enough, this type of service predated anything seen on PC until Steam was released in 2003.

When you compare playing PS2 and Xbox online back between 2002-2005, Xbox Live was far superior. In exchange for a subscription fee, people got a tangible sense of value. When the PlayStation Network came about, Sony had high-profile hacking incidences that took off PS Network for days while XBL subscribers never had to worry of anything similar.

We don't know much about whatever Nintendo is offering, and I'm sure they'll be heaping spoonfuls of info yet to be unveiled between now and E3, but they may yet make it to where it will be a service that provides a tangible sense of value. What's so harmful about being optimistic?

By sharing my opinion, I'm doing my part of being the voice of dissent necessary to ensure this board doesn't end up like the various echo-chamber online communities that shuts out anything it doesn't like to read or see.

That term is a fucking copout for saying shemales and you fucking know it.

shemales are unnatural abominations modified by surgery or hormones.

A dickgirl might just be a girl with a dick and balls instead of a vulva.

That would be a shemale with natural tits instead of silicone ones. Still an unnatural abomination but didn't have to fork over thousands of dollars to look that way. If you want it less gay still gay thou you have to go with futa, the pussy must be shown at least once, otherwise it's just another pretty man with tits.

If they have a female bone structure then they're not visually a shemale.

If they look like a woman but got a dick but no pussy/cunt/bunny/box/vagina it's a shemale, period. If they got a dick and pussy it's a futa. What is so hard to fucking understand about this.

This is a good fucking point, especially in the case of Splatoon.

What's the point of bragging about how you waited 9 months to get a game on the cheap when both the excitement and enthusiasm for the game has declined way past it's peak and all the in-game events have already came and gone?

You literally just missed out on an entire experience that cannot be recreated or relived because you wanted to be a thrifty bitch and you want to be smug about it. Congratulations on your achievement.

Besides, as we should all know and as it has been well documented, video games are cheaper now at full-price MSRP than they've ever been in history. $59.99 for a video game is nothing to bitch about if you're a self-sufficient adult.

There's nothing wrong with wanting a sense of value, but when you start pretending that your purchasing decisions are making the industry better place and everyone who doesn't buy used on certain titles or wait until it's $9.99 is ruining the hobby, you've crossed that threshold into being a jaded, cynical asshole who's forgotten how to do something as simple as learning to enjoy a purchase.

No I'm saying that they don't look like women, while dickgirls do.

video games and electronics might be cheaper but everything else has skyrocketed. when the hell did food get so expensive?

That's fucking redundant, in porn it's meant to be attractive, so if a shemale is drawn of course it's going to look like a woman but with a dick, unless the artist deliberately wants to make the shemale ugly.

Besides what you're describing is what the term trap meant in the first place, passable shemales. Then expanded to passable crossdressers then exclusively crossdressers. Which has another copout term on sad panda, tomgirl.

All this talk about shemales is evidence that we need a new Splatfest soon.

Some of my own best video game "experiences" were buying hyped up games at launch. When I was younger, my brother and I would buy or rent the latest Final Fantasy games right when they came out. Even if Final Fantasy 8 was not my favorite Final Fantasy by any means, I still would love to go back to the week it came out with all the promotion materials lining up my local Software Etc. and huddling around the TV at the neighbor kids' apartment watching Liberi Fatali for the first time and wondering "how can vidya graphics get any better!?". That was an experience well worth 60 dollars

Actually, I'd say most games are still the same price they've always been. It's just that now instead of 60 bucks for a game less than 10 megabytes on a plastic cartridge, we're now paying the same price for games that are several gigs. Games will get cheaper once most become digital exclusives, but that won't happen until Gamestop and EB games crash.

For all the talk about inkling cuntboys I can't say I've actually ever seen a single one. Like unicorns, they are.

Prices were erratic as hell in the 90s, you could have one game be 20 bucks and another be 70. Chrono trigger was expensive as fuck. Hell I remember at target there was a 64 game being priced 69.99, I think it was bomberman 64 not sure. The prices didn't stabilize until the 2000s. With 50 dollars being the standard console game price. Honestly 60 bucks aint a bad price, it just sucks when you have to pay additional 15 or even 30 bucks to get the full game.

That's because the only difference between the male and female inklings is the ponytail.

In all likelihood, that wont happen anytime soon for several reasons.

1. People love physical media and they will go to great lengths to gain the comfort of physically owning something. That desire single-handedly revived vinyl music here in the USA and elsewhere when digital music became the premier way of owning music. Owning digital items isn't satisfying.

2. Sadly, not everyone can enjoy uncapped internet bandwidth, and therefore cannot download digital content to their hearts and wallets content. Physical media for them is a necessity. The physical DVD for the PC version of Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain that was sold for $60 only contained 7MB of data: It was just steam.exe and a voucher for the game. This pissed off consumers, particularly in Australia, who were given no choice but to dock 28GB or so off their monthly allotment.

3. Digital content of equal or comparable size and scope as physical media games will never be cheaper, even when you factor things such as the cost of manufacturing and shipping, because companies don't want to screw their retailing partners over by offering the same game for $20 less than what they're advertising it for at their store.

It sucks that Nintendo also has a price parity policy to appease brick and mortar stores where the digital releases and the physical releases are the same price, despite the fact that it is in portable consoles' best interest to go full digital at this point

I think there will always be a place for physical media, but I really think the Switch should gravitate more towards trying to get games mostly released digitally, leaving retail physical copies for the bigger and more important releases. With Zelda it makes sense to have a physical copy cause the file size is 13 gigs and the Switch's internal memory is only 32 gigs. But it looks like many of the retail games for the Switch are only going be about 4 gigs or less.

Really one of the biggest things that pisses me off about the switch is external storage is mirco SD card only. With the wii u (and the wii softmodded), I can just use an old HDD and slap it in a usb enclosure and boom I got a shitload of space. Yeah, Yeah, it's not portable and shit, but at least give me the option to do so, instead making the usb-c only useful for charging outside the dock.

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Funny, you two remind me of someone. Can't put my finger on why that might be.

I think Nintendo makes these inconvenient decisions to save themselves the hassle of dealing with retards complaining about their games suddenly crashing when the portable hard drive gets disconnected. I think they might implement something through the USB port on the dock, but don't count on a portable solution happening anytime soon. Unless someone concocts some sort of retarded accessory that draws power from the USB C and sends the data lines through the mSD but don't hold your breath.

I wouldn't mind a squid-themed phone case.

Dock has that extra USB port, no? I don't think I've ever checked if that works for a HDD.

It probably doesn't. But Nintendo said they're considering it so it might one day.

Shut the fuck up, Jesus Christ.

you're bad at this.

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Shut up, ROB.

good goys

The Switch still uses friend-codes. It is not better than what I could use for free(Wii U online, 3DS online, PS3 online) and it cannot be fixed because the very root of the problem, retarded suits at Nintendo, thinks friend-codes doesn't need changing but the price tag does.

But he's right. Amiibos don't really lock up anything that is significant. It doesn't lock up substantial content like extra characters or special endings behind some paywall.

People on Holla Forums just are so much against the concept of paying money for something of value is because they want everything to be free or as cheap as possible, and anything that gets in the way of that is "the cancer killing gaming."

All the arguments share one common denominator: The fact that you have to spend X amount of dollars for something.

The Amiibo thing I think is just a case of Holla Forums not understanding who the market for amiibos are. I can see the argument against paying the price they ask for the digital content the amiibo unlocks which is already on the disc or game file, but the fact that there's a figurine you get is also a motivating factor in why a lot of people buy them

Holla Forums is full of anons who think that if you believe that people actually deserve compensation for their work, you're a good goy instead of just somebody who has a basic sense of value. Piracy is theft, and trying to morally justify theft rather than just accepting that you're a scumbag only makes you look like a faggot. Holla Forums however seems to think that because a game can be easily stolen that somehow that lowers the real value of the product.What's more is that they think they have some business telling others what they should be willing to pay for what and what companies should do to satisfy their consumers when they might be the least invested financially in the video game industry and thus have no business speaking on behalf of other consumers who aren't willing to stoop as much to theft and spend more on the industry.

As for getting things as cheap as possible, there is nothing wrong with wanting something the cheapest you can get. The problem is when you don't really understand what goes into the pricing of a product or that others may simply have different sense of value, like how that one user doesn't see a point in buying a Switch right now until the price possibly goes down but others value the Switch enough already that they're willing to pay the launch price for early access to it.

We'll just have to wait for that 1 terrabyte micro sd card to get made, I guess

Clenched a win by a single cunt hair during the test fire. Kind of sucked that you couldn't make a squid like you could during the first test fire, but whatever.

Why are you posting screencaps of others' arguments and not actually addressing the arguments themselves? That's pretty cuckchan-tier.

It's not to argue but to remind people of what they're probably dealing with so they can keep away or fuck with it. When you come into a thread like robotripfag spouting off about how his personal economic choices are superior, and who appears to have more resources than most if you look at all the Nintendo products in the scenes he sets up for ROB threads, people are going to push back and say something about it. Really, people like that should remember where they are.

As far as an actual argument goes I don't think that it would be worthwhile. A clear deep loyalty to Nintendo is present with this guy. Rob isnt a product, Rob is loved and Nintendo is loved. What he's saying could be more of a justification of his practices than an arguement alone.

Yes and kids are. Theyre toys.
And keep in mind that every businessman thinks consoles and handhelds and games are for children too.

This squigga gets it. High quality post right here.

Except the filenames you chose imply you disagree with what was said in them, but you don't address what it is you disagree with and why and just leave them there. When you do that, it just looks you're doing the typical 4chan tactic of trying to make a strawman out of someone else so you can weasel out of arguments by banking on the general sentiments of the board or thread happening to align with your opinion, regardless of whether that opinion is wrong or not.
You should remember that plenty of people come on this board who have different points of view and that it is your responsibility to not shit up the board quality by replying to 10 posts at once and shitposting screencaps from 2016 that left you frustrated and which dealt with a separate topic entirely from the one people were currently discussing.

user: "what the fuck, I have to buy a goddamn fifteen dollar toy just to unlock shit in my game I already payed sixty dollars for. Fucking jewtendo."

amiibo buyer: "cool, I get bonus content for my game with my fifteen dollar toy. thanks, nintendo"

The only reason so many on Holla Forums hate amiibos is because they see the bonus digital content as the main reason to buy the amiibo, but they don't consider that these are toys marketed primarily towards children and collectors who see the toy as the main selling point, with the compatibility with one or more games in accessing locked content being merely an accessory that adds to the toy's worth rather than the other way around. This is why the amiibo argument will always seem to go in circles.

i am ready for these cute cinnamon buns!

Hell, even to most people that aren't autistic they see amiibo more as "Cheap Nintendo figure that does neat things" than they do "DLC tied to a physical item". There's a reason they don't do anything truly valuable in all but one or two games.

I missed the first game entirely so I'm excited to have an opportunity to get to do Splatfests and such completely from scratch again.

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Excuse me sir, are you a robot trying to post in a Oneshot thread or are you trying to say you hate some form of splattershot? I am deeply confused

All you have to do is remember that Octolings are superior and Marie is best squid sister

Only one of those is true

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octolings are sex workers

it's not really DLC when the content is actually sealed on the game. What the amiibo does is just provide a kind of passcode.

With the Splatoon amiibos, in addition to the content you gain access to in their game, they also provide costumes for Mario Maker and can give you extra items in Breath of the Wild. I think Nintendo probably understood the viability of DLC in today's market where DLC is often seen as a means of compensating for losses to piracy, but felt that it was more profitable and customer friendly to tie the content to an actual physical item people could own rather than nickel and diming people by charging them 1 dollar per Mario Maker skin.

But what Nintendo probably saw as a customer friendly way of bridging the gap between their video game and merchandising departments to make an extra profit in a declining console industry, a means of competing with toy-to-life stuff like Skylanders, Lego Dimensions and Disney Infinity and something which would draw a line between the casual and hardcore fanbases of their IP's while also gauging the popularity of said IP's through merchandise sales, Holla Forums saw as jewry because the thought of paying for anything offends them

That's even worse, you're paying $60 but not receiving everything on the fucking disc you paid $60 for. If they're not going to sell me the whole disc's content for a given price, why should I pay that whole price?
I don't mind spending money when it's a fair fucking deal. I'm not buying a fucking game for $60 and then spending >$15 >$15 >$15 for every piece of content locked behind a statue. Amiibos are not the end goal, they're a means of selling content to gullible idiots and the fact it's a lower-end-of-decent statue is supposed to be compensation for buying a physical DLC pack. If they could sell people just the fucking NFC chip for $12 they would and you damn well know it. If you're going to reiterate that "it's not DLC because it's locked on the disc from day 1" then call it whatever you fucking want, it's content locked behind a statue that you need to buy in addition to your $60 purchase if you want all of the content on the disc you paid $60 for.

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Because the $60 price tag is not just for the disc's content.The reason why a game like Breath of the Wild costs $60 while being 13 gigaboos while a brand new copy of Splatoon at Gamestop cost at launch and still costs $60 even though the game file size is itself only 4 gigs is because the cost of the disc's content itself is dwarfed by all the manufacturing costs that go into producing the physical disc and packaging and shipping it to retailers who must sell the item at a profit. Just because some of the content on the disc is locked by the company doesn't mean that the costs of manufacturing the disc, which overshadows any value to the game content itself, suddenly lowers. Whether or not the content on the disc is locked is irrelevant because locked or not, that's not what your 60 bucks is actually paying for and neither Nintendo nor the real value of their game content is what actually determines the final retail price when it comes to physical copies.
If we could possibly break down each byte of data and quantify its value in terms of dollars and cents, the content that amiibos give you access to per game probably only amounts to something between 5 cents to $1 at the most. What you're actually paying for with that $15 is the cost of the plastic, the paint, the nfc chip components, the labor that went into molding the plastic, the labor of those who painted the sculpture, and the manufacturers of the chips, the printed paper and plastic packaging, the shipping costs, retail employees etc. All this adds up to the present cost. The content itself is not what you're paying for since it probably was never even worth enough for Nintendo to even bother trying to sell to you separately from the amiibo and chances are most people probably wouldn't have gone out of there way to buy it separately even were at $0.99 had it not also been tied to a physical item of greater value.
The problem is this content's actual value is probably so small that even if you could deduct it from the final retail cost of both the disc and the amiibo, rounded up you would still probably be paying about $60+$15 anyway for both items just because the cost of the physical materials remains unchanged. Nintendo decided it was more profitable and would be more positively received by their respective customer base to lock content perhaps worth only a very small amount and make $2.50 a head for each amiibo sold and which probably sells the access to the locked content itself at a loss that is made up for by the profits from the figures. And based on the sales, it would seem most people in Nintendo's average customer base see the doll as more than enough compensation for some odd cents worth of content being locked. Just because you don't happen to value the amiibo figure as much as the content it gives access to doesn't mean others shouldn't either or that their sense of value is any more idiotic than your own. Some people like collecting statues of Mario and you don't, that's all there really is to it.

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If the value of the amiibo is in its nature as a collectible figurine, then there's no excuse to bundle what should be free content with it. It's the equivalent of xbox live or PSN+, where retards defend it with "Oh, look at all this other useless shit you get with it!" when the actual worthwhile feature is multiplayer, which has no justification being lumped in with other paid services (many of which also have no justification.)

I will never understand how you can type so much and say so little while still making it a visual chore to read. You have a real talent for sucking corporate cock.

WOW
HOW INCREDIBLE
I BOUGHT A VIDEO GAME CASE AND IT HAD A DISC IN IT, WHICH HAD A VIDEO GAME ON IT
THAT'S AMAZING, I'M SO LUCKY I WON THIS LOTTERY UNLIKE MY FRIENDS WHO BOUGHT $60 CASES AND GOT NOTHING
AS WE ALL KNOW, CORPORATIONS DON'T OWE US ANYTHING AND WE SHOULD BE GLAD FOR ANYTHING THEY DEIGN TO PROVIDE US
I'M SO GLAD I STOPPED BEING ENTITLED AND EXPECTING RESPECT OR ANYTHING OF VALUE FOR MY PURCHASE

The entire reason I'm willing to pay $60 to cover the costs of manufacturing and development for the physical materials is because they have games on them. If you believe the code written onto a disc is worthless and meaningless, then surely you'd have no trouble spending $60 for a blank disc, right?

You have this assumption everyone who buys a game with amiibo support is automatically going to buy both the amiibo and the game itself. I don't want to do that. I don't want to buy an amiibo. I have only wanted to buy an amiibo once because it was on sale, and I sincerely regret the one amiibo I did purchase because (like all of them) it was fucking useless. It now sits in a cabinet, unused, unappreciated, not valuable enough to scalp people with.

No, I would not be paying $60 + $15 if you shipped both as complete products. I would pay $60 because I want the video game and nothing else. People who want the figurine can buy it for $15, and my side of things wouldn't suffer in order to make the collectors feel better about their useless hunks of McDonald's plastic.

Ironically, you described the ideal situation as an attempt to prove the other user wrong: with a full, complete game and no amiibo bullshit, people who want the video game can just buy it. People who want a figurine can just buy it. This is how the video game industry has handled collector's editions (or many of them, at least) for decades and apparently Nintendo decided to fuse the two sides together so they could encourage people to buy both. It's a shame they can't track the sales data on this because I'd bet money the Venn diagram for people who own Nintendo games and people who own lots of amiibos is just a pair of circles.

You seem like someone who enjoys figurines (for whatever reason) and I, obviously, am not. I won't pretend to think I can change your mind, or have you change mine, but you can't be stupid enough to think that making my part of the video game/figurine divide worse would somehow make me like yours better. I don't care if the $15 I would have spent on a figurine is now worth more like $20 because it unlocks $5 worth of content in a video game I like. I never would have spent that money; its worth is irrelevant to me. I don't like figurines, and now all Nintendo has accomplished is institute a system where a game has content cut out of it, and I have to pay upwards of $30 for that content AND some useless plastic bullshit I will never appreciate.

I know most people are indifferent to amiibos, but I can tell you plenty of people like me hate them. They have forever tainted every amiibo-compatible Nintendo game to be released from this point in time onwards, and for what?

I will not pretend to be knowledgeable about the details of amiibo production, but citation fucking needed.

You're missing the point. Yes, you are buying a physical copy of the game for the game, but most of the money you're paying for that game is not for the actual game in reality and neither Nintendo headquarters nor the "real value" of their game content is what ultimately determines that $60 price tag. Technically, you never did pay for full access to the game content, you technically just payed for the physical product the game content came on

I'm not assuming that, but I think Nintendo's decision does make sense from just a business perspective under the present circumstances of the industry. There are three major factors that get in the way of video game companies making profit at the present:
1. The high costs of manufacturing physical media, which a company like Nintendo is paying a far higher amount for than to actually develop the games
2. The millions of losses in potential sales due to piracy
3. Record declining sales n home console games as well as physical media in general as gamers switch to digital services like Steam and with the loss of millions of more casual gamers to the mobile market.
Video game companies have always been looking to make more money in spite of all the manufacturing costs and the money they have to pay to video game retailers. Were it up to Sony, Microsoft & Nintendo, they probably all would have switched primarily to offering more games solely through their online services a long time ago because they can offer more games for cheaper that way and they cut the middle men and thus can keep more of the profits for themselves. But that isn't possible yet because they're still dependent on appeasing Gamestop, EB Games, Best Buy, Target, etc. There are only two ways that a company like Nintendo can get around high production costs for physical items and the high prices retailers charge them to stock their stuff: either bypass the production of physical media altogether and sell the game to the consumer directly OR to make more physical retail goods which are expected to sell at a profit and which can compensate for any losses or lackluster profits of other pieces of physical media and get retailers to sell those too. Have you noticed lately that Gamestop too seems to be selling more apparel and "geek gear" than before? It's because they need to do that to compensate for the losses the home console industry has suffered themselves as well. Nintendo has always had a very prominent merchandising department and they are stuck in a position where they have probably been hit the hardest of all the game companies by the factors I just mentioned and they know that many of the more hardcore fans of their IP's have the most disposable income to spend on various merchandise. Do you think the hardcore basement dwelling Zeldafag who uses the money his mom gave him to buy that expensive master sword replica cares that the game content is locked behind the BOTW Link Amiibo? I doubt he does, all he sees is a new Zelda collectible, and this time it gives him access to content that no other more casual Zeldafag unwilling to pay the extra money for the amiibo can get. Why does nu-Fire Emblem feel like it lays on the dating sim element thicker than previous entries? Because Nintendo realized that Japanese fujoshis and lonely otaku are the ones with lots of disposable income and that's what they like. Amiibos appeal to children and hardcore fans of Nintendo IP's, people with large amounts of disposable income who can generally be relied on to buy Nintendo products and keep the company afloat. I don't think they're really meant for more casual nintendo customers who JUST want a game.

I'm not trying to change your mind. I think your reasons are perfectly valid

I'll be honest and just say I threw a number out there, but I highly doubt the majority of the $15 payed for an amiibo goes to Nintendo's pockets and not to paying for the production cost of the figure. That's how it is with most toys that are sold in high volumes.

so are splatoon threads now just gonna be nothing but arguments about paid online or are people actually going to discuss the game
i mean i know this is Holla Forums but come on

pretty much yeah

checked
would you rather i dump squids

no, dump octos

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I hate the music in Spla2n so much, it's actually a dealbreaker for me. The music in Splatoon was really good, really put me in the mood. Spla2n's music is shit, I can't be the only person that feels this way about it.

what's wrong with it

I wish I was a cute inkling girl

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But we've only heard, like, two or three tracks.

And you're writing off Splatoon 2 already?

What's wrong with you?

You're actually right about one thing, even though you were trying to be a sarcastic cunt. Corporations actually don't owe us anything. However, you're not required to be "glad" for anything they do. Don't like? Don't buy.

Value is subjective. Some people like buying little collectible statues, and the content they unlock is a neat addition to it all.

Besides, it's pretty oxymoronic for anyone who plays or enjoys video games that they "suck corporate cock." Unless all you play are shareware games made by amateur developers on their spare time that was acquired through file-sharing, you have contributed money to some business or corporation in some manner, be it for the game itself, the disc or cartridge that was manufactured for it, the retailer who sold it to you, etc. and so forth.

Trying to discredit others for "being corporate shills" because they buy and play video games makes you just as much of a hypocrite as tax protestors who benefit off taxes in some way.

The only way you can stop "sucking corporate cock" is if you just stop playing video games altogether.

If you're not prepared to do that, then stop typing.

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I nearly spit out my drink after reading this sentence, holy shit.

Given the fact all but one Amiibo figurine are all tied into Nintendo games or game series, is it really that hard for you to believe that those who goes out to buy a Nintendo game wouldn't also pick up an Amiibo?

If it is, then let's go to the sources.

Nintendo's NPD report for December 2014 shows that Super Smash Bros. For Wii U had sold 1.3 million units in both physical and digital sales. Amiibos, which at that point were just limited to the Smash Bros series and was released along with the game, were 2.5 million.

Source:nintendoeverything.com/december-2014-nintendos-response-wii-u-has-its-biggest-month-of-sales-ever/

Do the math. If these sales figures are to be believed, that means that for every game sold, nearly two Amiibo figurines were bought along with it. That means that, in the case of SSB, Amiibos had a near 2:1 attach rate.

With all this being shared, how much money were you willing to bet again? Because I think it's time to put your money where your mouth is.

I love it tbh

Amiibos do lock up an entire form of gameplay in Sm4sh, which is pretty bad. Them being just for early unlocks is harmless, but locking up any kind of exclusive content behind them is terrible, simply because they're physically limited keys for digital products. It's like having CD keys for purely digital games or something. There's only going to be a finite amount of them made, and those numbers are going to dwindle with time. Imagine, years later, someone buys an old Wii-U or Switch with BotW. Then, if they want wolf-Link, they'll have to buy a marked-up amiibo, or be fortunate enough that someone by that time has found a way to spoof amiibo sensors and let you "pirate" the content.

WHOSE REEADY FOR ANOTHER TOURNEY

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Even if I did manage to win, I don't know how I would actually get to E3.

reeeeee

They don't have to be fortunate, because there's already a way.

Google Amiiqo

Please don't defend paid online or paid dlc, even if ironic.

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What cuckery likes Nintendo? All it has to offer is bad games and shitty consoles

reminds me of the water temple

How was testfire? No pc only phone.

Dear retard justifying switch, who cares. You brought it you like it don't justify it to others just shitpost gleefully when its the best system in a years time.

nice projection

Hey you retarded or something? Cause what you said made no fucking sense at all. You sound like a down syndrome shill trying to defend shitty consoles

people who realize that Sony and Microsoft just make glorified Netflix machines and that aside from PC, Nintendo is the only platform worth even fucking with.

He's criticizing people for not liking the game or console, but then saying if you don't like something don't buy it. Eventually people will bullshit their way around in a circle and step right into it.

I'm on a phone eat a dick they don't have to justify a thing to anyone else.

Holy shit how much is Nintendo paying you? Buying a console that doesn't even work properly, yes totally a nice investment, I would so spend $500 on shit that even Japan doesn't want

This general gets worse every time I come here.

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This is ROB of the ROB threads doing this.

says the one who was justifying himself, to retarded to even realize what you're doing

Great, it's that try-hard faggot who thinks posting on-topic images means he's not shitposting

I've read most of that user's posts. I'm pretty sure he didn't say that. And even so, you can tell others that if they don't like something they don't have to buy it while at the same time criticizing them for not liking something in the first place. There's nothing contradictory about telling someone they have a choice but then telling them they made the wrong choice out of the two.

That wasn't a justification retard

This is what happens when you cut school funding.

Japan doesn't want?

Nice memes, squiddo.

please use archive.ism/2017/03/30/switch-sales-in-japan-outpace-ps4s-during-similar-four-week-launch-period/

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Might as well.

After all, if over half of those who post here on this general don't buy a Switch, either because of paid online or because they hate it, this general is bound to die.

I seriously doubt that Splatoon is going to have so many advantages over Splatoon 2 that there will be a strong holdout community to keep it going for another two years.

Or do we have to create a separate "Splatoon 2 General" where only those who were not put off by the Switch can post in?

I'm not trying to say people are idiots for not buying a Switch or any product. That's their business. However, we can't really continue these generals and have a sizable number of people on this general who refuse to buy the console that the sequel is exclusive to. It just cannot work.

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Or everyone would just keep playing the first game? I mean how long ago was the last splatfest, and the generals seem to be doing fine. And if the general dies who cares? If there's nothing the talk about so be it.

Are you new here?

Can you fags just kiss and make up already so that you guy can stop arguing

I haven't bought a Switch since I'm waiting for the release of Splatoon 2. A lot of us are waiting for the same. Fuck off, Rob.

Wow, I never knew there was a second part to that image.

Or the general covers both games like every other general.

wouldn't doubt it

the present state of the generals has already proven that's not enough to keep it alive. This is the most active the generals have been in awhile and that's only cause we've either been arguing about stuff other than Splatoon or discussing the test fire.
I care.

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Pixiv can be just as scary of a place as DeviantArt sometimes.

Rob needs his safe space.

Fuck off, you queen.

hey Rob, go shove a switch up your ass and swallow a cyanide cartridge you corporate shill. I can see why you failed basic training for the military

I see no reason why that couldn't happen, so convincing people the switch is good is moot, as it won't increase nor decrease the amount of activity in the general.

user, if the general dies let it. Nothing good will come of trying to artificially extend its life.

"convincing people switch is good" that's nintendos job, probably by e3 this year.

Fuck that. There's a sequel coming out.

Wrong. Go back to Telemundo.

well evidently it's also ac352a's job.

google: switch sales japan, click news. i refuse to encourage mental disorders.
Holla Forums is practically the only board that shoves archive.ism down people's throats this much. It used to just be a way to post articles from sites like kotaku without giving them revenue from clicks. Now it's just more cancerous board culture.

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And? Like I said, if the general dies let it. If people don't want to shell out for a switch to play the new one then it might as well never have existed.

Hey Rob, you still failed basic training and you don't play splatoon

Holla Forums usually archives and the only reason people don't get pissy when someone doesn't archive is the op usually green texts the entire article. Did Holla Forums insult a shit game you play?

Hop on mumble lets play some splatoon

I wouldn't underestimate the power of those who can meme it so that anyone who doesn't refuse to buy a switch or splatoon 2 and just play only 1 like a hipster is a fag, goy, shill etc. I'm sure the general will pick up once the second game actually comes out and assuming the second game is basically the same as the first, but I still worry about some people ruining things and smugly forcing some kind of divide, cause that's what this board has a bad habit of doing.
But if that happens, we'll have to go to halfchan's /ink/

When did I ever say the Switch was good? Fact of the matter is that there's only one real game to play on the system and both the eShop and the online infrastructure is in it's infancy.

All I'm doing is providing counter-points to commonly-shared arguments so maybe people will quit being so hiveminded here on this board. I'm not bragging about having a Switch or trying to make people feel stupid for not having one.

It's that "stop liking what I don't like" mentality that makes some people think that I'm trying to market the damn thing. "If he's not bashing it, he must be shilling it." It's fucking nonsense.

You're all adults (I think), you all can think for yourselves. I'm just saying that the Switch and whatever paid online scheme Nintendo's cooking up isn't straight-up screwjob like many here clearly think it is.

Fucker, you juss jealous.

You have defended nintendo on all fronts. You certainly seem to enjoy the switch and imply that people should get it to keep the generals going.

Jealous of what? Being a waste of a sperm cell? I bet your parents wish they would of swallowed you, I mean look at you, You're a liar and a failure in life, you cant do anything in your life especially pass basic training and say a different profession that has nothing to do with a lot of shit you wanted to do

yeah, but they haven't gone so far yet as to force you to archive it in such a way that all discussion could be interrupted just so people can sit there and post smug anime girl replies and reeeeee at you cause you forgot or just didn't care to archive it. Sorry to be pissy about it, but if it's that big a deal, i feel like people could just open the archive and paste the url themselves

You're worse than a fat swear autistic jew. At least they have common sense in life unlike you

Not all fronts. The localization bullshit I never stood up for. Doesn't mean I'm going to burn every Nintendo item I own and encourage others to do the same.

Which there is nothing objectively wrong with.

I can't imagine how these generals will continue if they don't want to get the console to play the sequel with. I, for one, don't want to be some contrarian hipster who clings on to old things and feels some smug sense of superiority over those adopting new things.

It's like classic rock aficionados who think that anything recorded beyond 1979 automatically sucks, and thinks that their taste makes them better than others.

Stop fighting and come play Splatoon

I think his deal is just that the generals should be a little more welcoming to those who bought a switch, rather than what seems to happen where people come in here just to bitch about Nintendo for whatever reason they feel like bitching about them for today.

None of the faggots who are saying they won't get one are even playing the game with us. We're all waiting for the game to come out before we make the investment. The game comes out and people buy it or they don't buy it. Come play Splatoon with the general players if you're so concerned.

No. I'm going to bed. You try patting down illegals for 8 hours and try to be in the mood for games.

I'll be on tomorrow if it means that much to you. Do I even have you on my friend's list?

Just come to the mumble when you're too tired to play games from molesting mexicant's but not too tired to shitpost like a drone.

Maybe Ill have to check tomorrow when you are here

The Switch will make you pay twice for an internet connection you already have, with no guarantee the server quality will be higher than Splatoon's was. This is an anti-consumer practice. You, as a consumer, are objectively in the wrong for supporting it. It's not complicated.

Awful strawman argument. In case you were too illiterate to tell, the phrase "sucking corporate cock" refers to people who go the extra mile, such as yourself. Everybody has to give money to corporations to play video games, but few people delight in giving money to people who don't respect their customers. Furthermore, I have no trouble giving money to large corporations who do respect me, like Devolver or Platinum.
This is exactly what I do with amiibo. However, my video games still have pieces cut out of them in order to make amiibo buyers feel good about themselves. Mob rule, in a phrase.

Prove to me those sales figures would be any different if the amiibo didn't have chips in the bottom of them (protip: you can't). Nintendo could easily sell 2.5 million licenced figures of their characters without having to make video games worse.

Well as PRESIDENT of this thread that's a dumb idea to have a separate.

We're still in the same game. Its better to let the idiots argue then just tell them fuck off . They'll tire out eventually

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When I said "Which there is nothing objectively wrong with," I was referring to me enjoying the Switch. Not the Switch itself. I guess I didn't word it in such a way as to ward off any argumentative reprisals.

You curtly summarize the Switch's online service as "making your pay twice for an internet connection you already have, with no guarantee the server quality will be higher than Splatoon's was." Already, you're trying to claim shit that you have no way of proving, since we know next to nothing about Nintendo's online plans for the Switch or what it plans to offer beyond free Virtual Console games with online multiplayer per month, which I personally think is fantastic and reminiscent to when they were selling one game each month for 30 cents during the Year of Luigi in 2013.

You sum up the entire thing as "making you pay twice for an internet connection you already have" without having any full knowledge of what Nintendo is actually planning to offer with the service in exchange for a monthly fee.

In that regard, I suppose it wouldn't be fair of you to dog Nintendo for the Swtich online service without dogging other companies such as Netflix since they're doing the same thing, since it could be argued that you don't need their service to stream movies as anyone could go to some shady Russian site and stream movies while fighting invasive pop-ups telling me my computer is infected and only my credit card can fix it, or risking either getting spyware or a terrible cam rip of the movie I wanted to watch. I suppose the reason why people would throw their money away every month for such an "anti-consumer" practice would be that they get their movies all compiled, categorized, and all in great quality without fear of unknowingly screwing up whatever device you're trying to stream it off of.

It's exactly like I put out earlier: The reason why people pay for services like these is because they receive some sense of value out of it. Obviously, we're not seeing the service completely rolled out, which is why Nintendo has opted to keep online free until that time comes. Seeing as either you and me don't know exactly what all they plan to offer outside of what they've announced already, It would just be outright stupid to write it off as shit. Furthermore, it's also stupid to just automatically equate it as being something as morally-wrong with being "anti-consumer" because of one perceived aspect which you don't like. Frankly speaking, that's childish as all hell.

In short, let's wait and see what Nintendo is planning to offer in exchange for a monthly fee before we say shit we can prove. Fair?

That's easy to do around here. All you have to do is say something positive, and people would consider that as "going the extra mile." Again, that goes back to the "stop liking what I don't like" mentality I talked about before.

Actually, cuntboy, I can.

As of now, you can barely find any figures of Zelda characters on store shelves, with the exception of the Bokoblin Amiibo. Searching places like eBay will show you that every Zelda-related Amiibo has their prices jacked up, even the Zelda characters from the Super Smash Bros line that were once plentiful have had their prices skyrocket. The reason being is that every Zelda amiibo unlocks something special in the Breath of the Wild game, including exclusive items.

Now, let's suppose they were just figurines that didn't unlock anything. Can you logically see how they would still be selling at such a break-neck rate? If you can, be sure to break it down for me, because I'd be really interested to know.

If you happen to be one of those people who think it's just so evil that Nintendo has hidden certain items in a game that can only be unlocked with an Amiibo, regardless of it being just cosmetic stuff or key items that help you in the game, then you can easily go above Nintendo's heads and get a spoofing device. Problem solved.

And if you're one of those people who think it's evil for Nintendo to even make you go through all of that just for an item, then do not buy their products and be done with it.

I, for one, like to have some added bonus in purchasing these figurines. Many others do, as this thread has pointed out. There isn't anything wrong with this.

It's not complicated, either.

You are autistic and have no comprehension of English grammar.

Fuck off, Rob

Fuck off, Rob.

I seriously hope you all kill yourselves with this autistic argument

Faggot, stop putting words in my mouth. I said that the Switch's online infrastructure quality is a question mark at this point, which makes me skeptical of it. I won't buy into a platform when such an important part of it is in the dark.

Right, so my opinions based on fact and the (un)availability of information are worthless, but your opinions based on quite literally nothing are correct. Good to know.

You have LITERALLY advocated for people to buy Switches in this thread without knowing about the quality of the online infrastructure, or the benefits of having a subscription. You are worse at lying than a rabbi.

Yes. Because they're official Nintedo figures of classic, beloved characters. We don't know what the attach rate is (and never will, which means you can't prove the demographic overlap) for games to amiibo, so we don't know how many people are buying the figures for the figures alone.

The thing is, it wasn't like this in the past. They made video games and that was it, and I was happy to buy them. The monetary value of the Club Nintendo merch proves there is a market for official Nintendo kitsch, but they tried to unify the products and made one of them worse in the process. Plenty of people would like amiibo enough to buy them if they didn't have chips in the bottom.

What you're saying is "I don't know what Nintendo is planning to offer with their online service, but I doubt it will be of any value because of contrived reasons and not because of any hard facts and figures which are not known to anyone." I'm sorry, but this is weak. There's a fine line between respectable and concise criticism and just plain cynicism. The fact that you make a point to describe their online service as "making you pay for something twice" as anti-consumer again - as if this is some sort of infallible truth - is just demonstrating that you're hinging your entire opinion on just one belief. You're being cynical, not logical.

If only to keep this general alive so we can continue talking about Splatoon for another several years or so. Like I said before, I'm not saying anyone is wrong for not buying a Switch already, but apparently doing so would be completely unacceptable and "corporate cock sucking" while doing the exact opposite - mocking or implying that people who bought a Switch either this early or at all is wrong - is acceptable and encouraged. That seems to be the prevailing attitude and I'm going to go against it. If not to help drive cynicism out of this community, but to help keep the general from not dying out from hold outs who over-inflates simple business decisions as being "anti-consumer."

And before you type again "THEY'RE MAKING YOU PAY FOR THE SAME THING TWICE!!!," I get it what you're saying, but I don't agree with you. Nothing is going to change that. Instead of being angry and cynical, wait and see what they'll offer in exchange for your hard-earned money. That's all I'm offering.

For one, we already have a good indicator on what the attach rate is. It's nearly 2 Amiibo per 1 game, as I've already demonstrated here: . Why would it matter if some are actually buying Amiibos just for the collectibility and not for use in games or both?

Oh, you say so right here:

It matters to you because it wasn't like this in the past, and you wish things were just like the good ol' days, and Amiibos that unlock some sort of content gets in the way of that.

As someone who's been playing video games since making sure the TV was set to channel 3 was an actual thing, and who's been buying games since I could rake leaves, mow lawns, and clean houses for a $60 WCW/nWo Revenge cartridge, I've developed a different attitude than you have over how things have changed.

I'm not objectively wrong in my opinions, but you're not objectively right, either. Or course, I wouldn't have to bring this tidbit up if it wasn't for the fact that you're pushing your viewpoints as being objectively right in the first place. This is the issue I'm having and the reason why I'm writing walls of text on this general.

We seem to have gotten to the point where the accepted norm is to be skeptical and cynical towards game companies, and if what you point out one positive thing, you're now a mindless and weak-willed shill and a faggot. It doesn't matter if it's Nintendo or anyone else, it's all treated the same.

Holy shit can you faggots quit being autistic for like 10 seconds so we can go back to being cute squids for a while? This shit is getting old.

You are telling autists to stop being autist. That's kind of hard. Though one seems to argue that something bad won't happen, even though if he followed previous warning signs from other examples he would realize it is much more probable for it to be the case.

I'm not writing off the game, it's good but the tracks from the testfire are garbage, it doesn't have the same charm the first game had. It's a stupid reason to dislike a game I know, but I just don't like it.

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well theres not much point in reacting to something bad before its bad. warning signs are just signs of things to come, not necessarily things that are already here.

Paid online might be more explicitly an anti-consumer tactic if Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo were themselves your internet service providers and charged you an additionally large fee on top of your basic internet package just to play online with your console that you paid them 250 to 300 smackaroos. But Nintendo isn't your internet service provider, they're not the ones you're paying for internet, and the Switch will apparently offer paid online at a far cheaper cost a year than Sony or Microsoft offer it. Your basically saying that because you pay Cox, Direct TV or Spectrum $70 a month for your internet that Nintendo should not be forced to pay Nintendo $25 a year to use their console online. But I'm not really sure what the logic here is, Nintendo doesn't make any money from you paying your ISP or cable provider and server maintenance does cost them money as well. You may as well be complaining that Netflix and Hulu make you pay $12-$15 a month on top of your internet/cable bill, but this is silly because you're not paying Netflix or Hulu for your internet, you're paying them for a service that you use your internet for. Your complaint might be more valid if Netflix and Hulu were your ISP's and they were nickel and diming you out of your money with all these secondary services that should have been included in your initial service package so that you weren't left with an internet connection you couldn't actually use. It's basically the same thing with paid online for home consoles, you're not paying to use your internet, you're paying to use the internet you get from one company to use the secondary service provided by another company that happens to make use of that internet as a component and doesn't receive any money from you paying your ISP and/or cable.

I'd say Nintendo does respect their customers, but like any company it respects those customers who are most loyal to the Nintendo brand and have the most money to spend on Nintendo products first. But that's the way it is with any company looking for long-term stability as opposed to quick financial gains. As a more casual Nintendo consumer, this may be alienating, but this is one of the reasons I think Nintendo has survived this long.

Yeah, it sucks for you. But why should amiibo buyers or Nintendo necessarily care. It's kind of obvious that it's not your money that's supporting the company, but the amiibo buyers'. The reason Nintendo is continuing the amiibos with even Fire Emblem Echoes getting Amiibos is because these things sell and they sell well. To say that Nintendo doesn't respect their customers while they're actually satisfying customer demand seem kinda stupid, unless by "respect" you mean holding one's customers' to what you feel are much higher standards that maybe the customers themselves don't hold themselves to.

so much for that

No, they don't.

Name 5 things wrong with octolings.

They aren't real, one of them isn't my wife, one of them won't ever cuddle with me as we watch the stars at night, one of them won't enjoy romantic beach side dinners with me, one of them won't ever start a family with me

These sound like personal problems. Very personal.

1. They're inferior
2. Their hairstyles are not fresh
3. They're sore losers.
4. They're not even cute.
5. They don't even taste as good as squid.

OCTOLINGS HACKED THE SITE WITH NO SURVIVORS.

Those bastards!

INKLING LIES WILL RISE UP TO THE SURFACE, YOU CALAMARI CREEPS

Make some memes, squiddos.

The connection has been lost.

6 matches in a row

Holy fuck that down time/Hack was kinda annoying

At least the Squids are back

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No.
Okay… let's see how I'd change this

Lawful Good
Splatlings
Neutral Good
Sloshers
Chaotic Good
Brushes
Lawful Neutral
Any "shot" or squelcher shooter
True Neutral
All other shooters
Chaotic Neutral
Splat or Dynamo Rollers
Lawful Evil
E-liters
Neutral Evil
Carbon rollers
Lawful Evil
Blasters

Is there going to be another testfire anytime soon?

Stop being a fucking corporatist.

Bully this nerd, he fucked up.

WHY IS EVERYTHING I DO EVIL

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Yeah, downloading and copying intangible software is theft. Go fuck yourself kike.

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theres no octoling mystery mushroom in mario maker, so thats kind of a downer

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are you really this dense or do you just like riling people up?

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dont you fags have anythign else to play?
jesus chirst, this is pitiful

Cry harder.

Wow, so moral.

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Let's be real. How many people here still play this game, and how many are just shitposting? Clearly these threads can keep going without an active playerbase.

There 10 or so of us from this general who get together and play regularly, and we even play other games together. None of us have gotten a Switch yet since what we want to play isn't out yet. We're eagerly awaiting Splatoon 2.

WOOMY SWAG

Woomy swag

woomy swag

Be retarded in another thread

woomy

Why do I rarely see gameplay discussion in these threads then? Sounds like a circlejerk to me.

Can't please everyone.

What else would you call it when a friend group establishes itself on some other channel and only uses these threads for shitposting?

Wait for Fresh 2, the Freshening to release I guess, You know you can just bring up gameplay whenever you want right.

I really like Gyro aim but the way it's done in Breath of the Wild feels better but Breath of the Wild is also no a TPS and you aren't using the Gyro to augment camera movement like in Splatoon. Why did Gyro aim not catch on when the Sixaxis had it standard when the PS3 released. I remember reading that the Steam controller has a gyro too, do any games support gyro augmented aim.

I like Splatoon but I remember some sperg sperging out that it's an objectively bad game because the game is determined in the last 60 seconds, but that's not true at all, especially in competitive modes.

I spend my time making memes. That's one way I love the game.

Did you ever make any good ones.

Quantity over quality

tbh famalam it's mostly because while there's certain things you need to know for certain modes STAY ON THE FUCKING TOWER for the most part the roving objectives (sans splatzones and turf war) really makes static strategies beyond the semi vague KILL THE RAINMAKER IF HE'S AN ENEMY SQUID sort of useless. I mean sure there's shit like if you're held up in an area, see if you can't flank around to lessen the load off your teammates holding a point, but most of our gameplay is either bitchfits over stupid people Fuck you putz or just general fun when we all get together and play. I mean, you're basically baiting but because it's early and Wurm doesn't have a Holla Forums serb to speak of, I'm here to post legitimately.

Shitposting on putz twitch was still the funniest fucking hting

Where's my team RRREEEEEEEEE

In mumble if anyone wants to play.

squidgirls are cute

they poop ink

Splatoon 2: The Adventures of Ink

wow you're hilarious!

And you're not.

Learn what humor is.

How would you describe the specials in Splatoon 2? Are they weaker than the first game's or are they Overwatch tier OP?

They seem a lot weaker to me, like they're going in the opposite direction of Overwatch ultimates.

Timeless

learn what sarcasm is, you pig

This is how you spot a shitter.

what does that mean, are you asking if they can be used to help you win? i would imagine so

Great counter argument.

I'm asking if they're press x to win broken or not.

God, I bet those lips would feel amazing on your cock.

New direct coming on Wednesday
What are you hoping for?
twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/851434613343895552

a new IP with a cute grill for more r34

That they are not going to have paid online.

you have to shoot things to win in the first place, which requires a button press. so i dont really understand what your point is or so i claim.

It's over, guy. Get over it.

A man can dream, can't he?

so howcome october isnt the 8th month of the year? since its the 10th month, shouldnt it be squidober or whatever?

>tune in for information on the Nintendo Switch and 3DS
What did they mean by this?
I'm kinda sad we will never get to see a lowpoly super deformed portable spinoff of Splatoon now that the Switch exists

It's October because it's when the Octolings go play scary pranks on the squids.

the worst prank you could pull on an inkling is to wear the same costume as them, splitting the freshness 50/50

I want to cum inside a little gi— UH, i mean squid.

What did Treehouse mean by this?

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On a scale of 0 (not very fresh) to 10 (extremely fresh), how fresh are cuntboy inklings?

It used to be the eighth month until Julius and Augustus wanted their own months

FUCKING TREEHOUSE

This isn't fake.
They actually fucking wrote this!

10 minutes 'til the Direct.

DIRECT SUMMARY

new amiibos

non-Splatoon things of note: Senran Kagura "Ecchi-D Rumble" with realistic handholding and breast groping

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Missed this because it wasn't in the JP stream. You can clearly see how the style menu works here. Unknown if you will be able to unlock additional styles or if you're limited to the defaults, or how gloves factor into this (maybe just a part of the squidboy's shirt).

I hope she has tanlines in the inevitable doujins.

oh and all the homosexuals will probably appreciate that you can make your boy wear a skirt now

But can we make the squid boys into traps?

I hope not. That's super gay.

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This is what I'll get when it comes time to buy the Switch for Splatoon 2.

What if cuntboy squids?

took them a while

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That's a female inkling in your picture

You can pre-order those Splatoon 2 Amiibos right now on GameStop.com.

Just sayin'.

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here's what everyone's favorite grizzly thinks about salmon run.

eyebrows give it away

Deepest Lore.

Anyone have the image of the kids in the nuclear bunker sending drawings through the fax machine which ultimately became the splatfest topics?

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I do really like the idea of Grizzco being bears tho

It's actually Judd in a bear costume.

>grizzco isn't run by squids OR bears, it's run by octolings
>real final boss is against a revived dj octavio who is revealed to be the leader of grizzco
>octavio is now a weird ass octopus bear cyborg hybrid
>remixes of the two final boss themes from the last game play

How can anyone be so pleb?

Let those Octos live on the surface with us and they'll blast Techno music 3 times a fucking day.

This makes me like squids even more.
I'm going to be so pissed if one of the squid sisters pulls some anti-war "they're cuttlefish just like us!" bullshit in the campaign like every modern Japanese war story is required to.

I need more art like this. I beg of thee, if you have any. Natsoc ubersquids get me going.

But he isn't dead, he's in a snowglobe.

Don't have many fashy squids but here's some Kancolle crossover art.

That's pretty good. And I agree it's really rare.

what are you some kind of natzeeman? are you one of those anti schematics?