Yooka-Laylee

…is probably going to suck But you all already know that. hese characters are all designed on a different artstyle from one another and Y&L (who have that attrocious square design from N&B) so they clash awkwardly with one another and it doesn't feel natural unlike the Rare game from yore that it's trying to evoke where everyone felt like they belong there. Look at the Banjo collage picture for comparison.
As for YL as a whole I feel that it's just nostalgia bait that doesn't try to improve on the games that it's supposed to be an spiritual successor of and it more than likely will rely on lots of attempts at humor, jabs at Microsoft and N&B are a given and probably Trump/Brexit if the Jontron incident is anything to go by. Ah, and Shovel Knight for some reason. It's like they are trying to say "It's been 20 years guys but we are still hip, the bat character says witty jokes with british slang, see? Please buy our game"
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I didn't care about it before, and I don't now. It was nice to see them shoot themselves in the foot with jontron though.

there was a video someone posted a while back and I don't know if it was just that one level or what but it was fucking empty. he was spending more time just walking for like 10-20 seconds to the next thing you can interact with instead of doing anything interesting.

What did he mean by this?

No really, I don't know whose Twitter he's referring to. Playtonic's?

Any time I see Shovel Knight I know the IP is part of the indie jewish cabal.

twitter.com/PlaytonicGames/status/845334801934680064

Playtonic.

They can't tell jokes.

Retro City Rampage is literally the definition of this.

a nu-male appears

What drivel

that these people get to breathe the same air I do, it'll never stop hurting

here it is.

also having 90s fmv style graphics makes it look even more empty due to the minimal detail on everything.

Wasn't Jon getting a voice part in the game because he backed one of the highest tiers on the KS? I guess "fuck you pay me" is a good business strategy

So a Holla Forums faggot?

Aren't they breaking KS rules/guidelines by excluding him from the game when they are legally obligated to put his voice in? Can Jontron sue them?

They invited him to be a voice, since he was an e-celeb who was well-known to love Banjo-Kazooie. There's no KS violation involved.

Hat in Time looks far better, and Jon still has his fully-voiced role in that one compared to just grunting into a mic for YL

he did it for free, he is friends with Grant Kirkhope apparently.

Hat in Time has a much better art-style, i'll give you that.

Isn't that in Development hell?

They were just at Pax 2017

Thats good, I just remember it getting announced years ago.

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Are there any other E-celeb voice actors that said something slightly offensive in the past that we might exploit? How many voices could we strip from the game by complaining?

Now that there's an established precedent you can show the devs how tolerant you are.

Banjo kazooie is fucking shit game although people meme about too much to collect, it's more where THE FUCK IS IT rather than THERE'S TOO MUCH TO COLLECT, you're slogging through all the boring levels just to fucking play the good parts which suck shit because nice fucking framerate, also nice resolution, nice console, wow i have to buy an xbox 360 to play casualized banjo kazooie, wow i don't die but then you're going to meme "you can't die", what the fuck is this a walking simulator you fucking idiot retard, the music isn't even that good it sounds like a bunch of ass because nice n64, the fucking sega MEGA DRIVE sounded better.
Then you skip to before playtonics was formed but after rare was eaten up by microsoft and Rare has this stupid fucking idea of revitalizing banjo kazooie as a mixture of little of what banjo kazooie is and try to make it like the other shit game that got canned. I fucking knew it was trash because of the stupid fucking transformation meter, are you so fucking stupid, this is the dumbest shit ever, resource bars in a fucking 3d platformer, what a fucking joke, see: Super Mario Sunshine, "BUT THIS ISN'T A PLATFORMER, IT'S ACTUALLY A COLLECT A-" fuck you're a nigger, you press the jump button to jump you fucking dork, you stupid fucking nigger faggot, they should've fucked off with their stupid ass gay shit fuckign game. you know how they captured all the braindead morons, they fucking got grant kirkhope. grant kirkhope more like I have no hope for yooka laylee, once again.
As people are fucking beating their dicks about yooka laylee being the second coming of christ or some 10/10, Yet Hat in time even though it's more dead is actually more original than yooka laylee and has actual press the jump button to jump hard because I fucking hate this fucking pretendo audience that everyone is fucking throwing their money as soon as a single figment of fun for autismo's casual shit comes around.

you stupid fucks, I'm going to be right once again

oh yeah mark brought this stupid game. much like Ys which he fucking likes, it's going to be shit. think about it.

jontran in anton and coolpecker when

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I think they had Grant on an episode of Game Grumps, once. He talked about Goldeneye soundtrack licensing for the N64, how the music industry is cancerous for royalties, all while one of them was really bad at BK

Can you not type like a retard?

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Has any of the ogs said anything? seems like its just been the publisher team17 and other fluro haired shits from playtonic.

Is this a Holla Forums fag?
Let's get him lads.
WE ON PATROL BOYS

Their Twitter accounts are set to private.

I had such high hopes for this game.

Of coure I should had seen signs along the way. I.E. Team17 who basically loves to shit on their Worms playerbase. Cause right fuck the consumer who helped us make this game we're better than you. We're developers and you're not.

But I can't believe they are this fucking pozzed to let someone's viewpoint bear any fucking difference for a product. But I guess that's how the cookie crumbles.

Do they call themselves spooks?

I didn't know Jon had a WOW character

Are there going to be sexy female characters?

No, just ugly fridges

I think you know the answer

fug

IT WAS SO CLOSE TO COMING OUT, TOO

THEY JUST COULDN'T HELP IT

No, but they like to spew the "haha xd stirnir spoogz" meme ALL the fucking time.

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I thought they would have tried to get rid of it when he admitted to playing on private servers.

Alright, I'll start

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Can I back Link?

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Now that's an autistic shark waifu, I tell you what.

There is nothing wrong with Brexit and the retards still bitching about how ebul it is to mudshits need to die.

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That's a swordfish

Nigga swordfish ain't purple

That's a Saw Fish, and that's technically a type of shark. Get your furfaggotry together.

This reminds me of Holla Forums for some reason… :^)

runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Swordfish

Foxes aren't light blue, but furfags draw them that way regardless.

It's almost as if they don't think before they post.

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They really don't understand what kind of person a "special snowflake" is but they keep awkwardly using it like that.

It's kind sad, like an autistic child who tries to make fun of the other kids but his zingers are so shit and autistic that no one laughs.

Nigger, that's just banjo kazooie. They've all felt fucking empty, even the other rare collectathons i've seen like DK64 felt empty as shit. Even the fucking banjo kazooie racing game had huge empty as fuck overworlds for no real reason.That's just what rare did/does. I'll never understand why you niggers hold that fucking game up on a pedestal.

Yes, and they need to die

It's a sort of Chris Chan situation where they say it because it's been said to them so many times, so in their retarded minds they think it'll be a good insult to use against people

I don't want this thread to turn into a "shit on old games that anons like" thread, please keep your autism in check.

I don't disagree, just pointing out that saying "nigga, swordfish aint purple" is a retarded thing to do for said reasons.

I really hope there's an option to lower the voice volume and up the music. Other than that, it looks too easy, hopefully it will have much more harder sections.


This is one of those "Star Citizen" situations. Didn't back it, but goddamn it I really want it to succeed because I know I'm going to enjoy it.

Doesn't the hat in time guy have a long-standing feud with MaxOfSTD?

I wish they were only playing dumb, but this is them sincerely thinking they are being acerbic and witty and turning the anti-SJW shit back on their enemies.

Wasn't Jon getting a voice part in the game because he backed one of the highest tiers on the KS?
No, only furfags paid that much money for such a thing, for example: sapphire3690.deviantart.com/journal/Voicing-in-Yooka-Laylee-535578863

==WUTDIDJASAYCRACKA?=

when did I put Banjo Kazooie on a pedestal?

Don't argue with (1) and done posters.

I'm never going to get tired of posting this image. Never ever in my life.


I thought about it, but didn't. Lesson learned: nothing is sacred.

9/10 edit. If only you could make it appear as if that ghost in the shell silhouette wasn't there it would be perfect.

I just watched JonTron's statement and I can't believe how much retard asshurt it's causing.

This incident has taught me to never, ever play video games ever again.

Nothing, i just wanted an excuse to bitch.


So low effort he can't even check to see if he knows what he's talking about.

I don't follow drama like some retarded new age child, nor do I give a shit about e-celeb faggotry. I'm just a simple man looking forward to the revival of the collectathon genre I loved as a kid.

I'll be picking up Y-L. For free, of course. I aint no dumb cuck.

I'm using the wonderful Holla Forums app that Codemonkey stole forked for mobile browsing that can't even display postcounts or load the captcha. Figures why he hasn't updated it.

God i fucking hate it when grant kirkhope goes un-supervised and this comes out. David Wise is exhuberantly better in every way.

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Wait there's an NPC of jontron in wow?

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apparently this guy. wowhead.com/npc=111495/jon-jafari#screenshots

New Jim video.

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agreed

I understand that you believe that mobile phones and therefore mobile browsing are a jewish control scheme and you might be right, thanks for pointing out. You're awesome.

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no

I don't think the game is going to be awful, but I'm certainly not going to buy or play it.

mighty no. 9 2 is sure looking great

my.mixtape.moe/byvdzt.wav
Someone make a webm out of this.

this doesn't look nearly as busted as MN9.

christ

Only because it's coated on ugly shaders and bloom.

Not on the technical scale but on the drama level.

(Nice digits)
Figures he was also a pleb.

Link to the app? I can't remember the name, fuck me.

It's called Everychan, what a fucking mess. Not like the alternatives like Chan Burauza with its hideous interface are any better.

For what purpose.

So people can easily save it and repost it, even if the original video ever disappears for any reason?

Exodus works but can't load images or capchas or post images, but the GUI is still objectively better and the app can track threads and notify you when posts happen.

oh, right. For a sec there i forgot that jim is notorious for deleting everything.

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But I want to

Maybe?

how is Vikings, anyways? I thought about it since I do love diablo-likes but haven't had one since grim dong deleted my level 70 character for no fucking reason

It's not quite there yet, probably for several reasons:

- MN9 Kickstarter was larger/more successful/more hyped and (to my knowledge) critical failures of Kickstarted video games had not yet become a regular thing
- Issue was entirely internal with Comcept whereas JonTron is external to Playtonic
- More at stake with Dina potentially influencing big design decisions, but Jon only had a voice role (which isn't to say Playtonic's decision is not a signal that certain dialogue, characters, and designs may be politically influenced in line with leftist viewpoints, a similar concern of Dina's potential influence/inclusion)
- MN9 was still early in development, Y-L is already finished and looks good
- Gamergate hadn't happened before MN9 to create mainstream normalization of video game politicization
- Political controversy around JonTron already happened and this may only be an aftershock

Haven't played it yet. But I do plan to get it soon. It was also launched on consoles, so, it might be a red flag.

I liked the early character design like the main two, the snake, and the villain bee but everything after just looks fucking horrible

This is debateable. Whereas JonTron is largely irrelevant: I didn't even know (or care) that he was he in the game to begin with, until this whole thing happened. That's not the point, the point is that Playtonic decided to make a political stance to appeal to a loud minority and cut content. That's bad.

What this also has in common with MN9 is how they're handling the fallout: THE GOYIM KNOW SHUT IT DOWN and being obtuse and inflammatory on their forums and making it worse.

It has happened before, continues to happen, and sadly, will keep happening.

I want it to blow up more though

>hot grunty
J-jesus Christ. Anyway, if this shit gives me even just a little bit of that classic Rare nostalgia feel, I'll be happy. I just want to feel that feel again.

This looks bad.

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At least Grant still has the same quality of music.
Levels do look pretty big/bland and linear, though.

tfw Bui hasn't shitposted about Yooka's feeties in forever

I agree with you entirely and that's also what has me bothered the most. What I'm saying though is that it's a factor to why this controversy hasn't gotten as large yet (if ever) as the one with MN9.

this is why this shit genre died

Would you consider Super Mario 64 to be linear? Some levels are, but some are more open

That word almost legitimately triggers me.
I want to tell anyone who uses it to fuck right off back to tumblr, the worthless cucks.

That's bait to spark outrage and replies from you. Notice the way he says

These people are retarded

Try and get a refund you dumb nigger.

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user, I could sperg about them but it just wouldn't be the same.
Post porn anyways though

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Fuck. Now I want politically incorrect rare back.

You know what would be a fun level? If you get to a desert level and terroristic scarabs immediately starts running against you, flying in the air, crashing in the ground, and exploding.

there was a part literally just like this in Overlord.

leaving no survivors?

whats funny is the main pic of yooka laylee has the lizard doing the similar muslim finger.

I dont think I have any saved, sorry :<


Whether its shit or not, he does have a point. Collectathons did die out for a reason

Are you Bui

No. If I was bui I'd have the porn.

WHY ARE THESE CHARACTERS SO FUCKING DULL AND UGLY COMPARED TO BANJO-KAZOOIE

It reminds me of Duke Nukem Forever's casino with the pearly contrast reflecting off of the bronze and copper walls.
The game seems to be progressing at a steady pace, but right now its wasted potential with levels having more eye candy than level design. I hope that was one of the weaker levels or they listen to their community to help them fix the levels.

Someone tell me how bad the community is. Are there any notable assholes who've emerged from the primordial kickstarter shit or is it just nostalgic nerds?

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new banjo and kazooie designs are pretty ugly

Both. People who plug their ears and are blinded by nostalgia. Bandwagonners too.

I wanna fuck Wojack

I know. Why are Yucka-Shitty so reminiscent of the 360 era banjo? You fucking idiots, that's one major reason people hated N&B.

Not as ugly as Y&L. Playtonic should have made an entirely new platformer instead of piggybacking on past glories from Rare with totally-not-B&K.

Since the devs are preaching diversity, I guess they won't make a game like Conker
All I want is a platformer with dark humor, but I guess that's too offensive in the current year+2

Conker wasn't so much of a platformer and more of a linear action-adventure game with enough variety and the right length to keep you entertained all the way through.

> "JonTron is a talented video presenter who we were initially, two years ago, happy to include as a voice contributor in our game. However, in light of his recent personal viewpoints we have made the decision to remove JonTron's inclusion in the game via a forthcoming content update. We would like to make absolutely clear that we do not endorse or support JonTron's personal viewpoints and that, as an external fan contributor, he does not represent Playtonic in any capacity. Playtonic is a studio that celebrates diversity in all forms and strives to make games that everyone can enjoy. As such, we deeply regret any implied association that could make players feel anything but 100% comfortable in our game worlds, or distract from the incredible goodwill and love shown by our fans and Kickstarter backers."

No, Playtonic, that's not fucking clear. You need to elaborate. Nope, nope…It's too late to back away if you are making such a stink about it. State your actual fucking viewpoints, and give us an indication how far you are willing to go to dissociate with other viewpoints.


Not having an answer to this question is proof that what does or does not "represent Playtonic" isn't absolutely clear.

The whole thing started with Steven King, the Iowa representative, right? Say I love Playtonic, hate Jontron and don't know anything about politics… will Playtonic kindly give me a list of elected representatives that I should not support if I want Playtonic to associate with me?

Again, not having an answer to this question means "it's not absolutely clear".

God I wish they would be forced to respond to something like this.

here's Jon's friend mocking him

archive.is/2m0yM
archive.fo/bKXE1

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Kek!

True, but that doesn't change that these guys isn't gonna bring that kinda games back

Conker was a different part of rare, and only came about in the first place because banjo kazooie was released before their empty boring collectathon kid friendly conker could be.

gotta copy the other great platformer new character designs.

As much as Jim has been a nigger recently, this video was actually funny.

It's one thing to remove someone's work from a game because of some petty controversy, but it's another to outright go on social media and actively rub it in. However, I can only laugh at Playtronic's hubris knowing they are basically committing PR suicide. It'll be absolutely hilarious to see this flop, because they'll learn nothing from it. They were all too busy masturbating each other in their little echo chamber to understand the reality they're a very small, very loud minority with too much free time.

Just wait for the best game instead

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even without this drama the game was doomed to bomb. collectathon fans are a minority especially in CY 2.

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The game won't flop at all. Nobody but a tiny minority will stop buying the game because of JonTron

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Why do these social justice cunts always have some ugly cartoon of their nu-male faces avatar? And why do they always pop out of nowhere to "support" someone when they are acting like an SJW retard? It's like they spend their entire lives on Twitter scanning for people to latch on like parasites.

try reading the thread first next time, faggot

Most of the people that worked on Conker are still working for Microsoft.

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Why do they always look the same too?

What a fucking snake in the grass. Glad I never backed their shit.

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If they're "commonly" balding "prematurely", then obviously it's the standard.

Why is every fucking american dev so embarrassing? Why can't anyone be professional? Jon was the only one who handled the situation with professionalism.

they are british, not like that's any better.

It's the standard among subhumans like them, yes.

That gameplay doesn't loo tight. I wonder if they bothered to playtest them properly.

Casualized

Do i get to be smug now?

I just googled nu-male and ran across this shit from plebbit
www.reddit.com/r/justneckbeardthings/comments/3yx2ai/numale/

You have to understand that the goal of these people is to remove dissenters. It's all false excuses to get people fired. You can't have them remove their own, making them overdose on political correctness.

It's easy not to believe everything you're told, but it's very hard not to believe even a single thing from the world at large. Never assume anything is legit, when coming from those cultists.

Who are you kidding besides yourself /leftycuck/? First of all jontron has millions of subs, if even a small portion of those subs don't buy it that's hundreds of thousands of sales lost.
Second of all, the only audience who would actually buy this type of game is going to be playing zelda for the next few months, you're delusional if you think this game was going to sell well in the first place.

We could make a plan and have an user infiltrate their click then in the next few months work his way through their group think using words and phrases we know they can't resist. Then when he's finally got them in the right place, he gears the conversation to topics that would give us ammo.

There foolproof plan

I thought the technical term was "goony beard man"?

kek

Most normalfags I know already moved from Zelda to be fair, user.

Speaking of MM9, how much of those stretch goals were blatantly ignored?

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Goony beard man is a subset of numale. Numale needs glasses and/or goony beard.

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The influence of X subs on YouTube is overblown given the number of inactive accounts that are still subscribed to him. Plus, Jon is being really wishy-washy about this topic. Maybe he's trying to show he's still good to Playtonic in hopes that they'll change their mind, but unless he makes a video where he talks about what happened and how it disappoints him and doesn't unlist it, it's not being utilized as a deterrent.


I don't know so much on this, so I'm willing to think this is a good point, but wasn't the Switch launch kinda awful?

It's is on the wii u as well, it's about the same quality as the swich and it's much, much easier a wii u and the game than it is to find than a switch

But user they had to save money for the TV series and merchandise range, MM9 will be a hit!

Nah, he's just a fat gay white guy with thick rimmed glasses.

I doubt it, he knew what would happen once he started speaking non progressive views, he mentioned it on that sargon stream when people first found out he had thought this way. I think he's had enough of it all and doesn't give a shit anymore.

THICC

She's also dead

The issue behind the controversy was how the company immediately threw the person who promoted and funded their game under the bus to appeal to vindictive narcissists who didn't contribute in the first place.

They could have ignored the emails or even claim that they don't support his views, but they those not too. Can't support a company like that. I'll be getting a refund.

Just pirate it, they haven't actually taken him out of the game, they're releasing a day1 patch that will so just dont update.

How to refund if you're a backer:

Ask for a refund on kickstarter and just say you backed it because you wanted a WiiU version which is no longer being supported.

Get your money back then you can be smug and say "jk fuck you guys for ditching jon tron"

I remember grant kirkhope discussing the making of banjo kazooie (probably during a speedrun marathon)
He said that even before the models had been created or they even knew what the world was going to look like, the first part of development was continuously practising jumps so it felt just right.
By the looks I don't think that same platforming spirit was used in this game.

So? They haven't removed her from the bus yet. She probably Still warm.

Dude, she is dead.

it's not Rape than silly

That seems to be a recurring element in better games. Devs sit down and hammer out the fundamentals of the game before adding anything else. It's like laying down the foundation of a building.

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Slap the retards around.

I'd fuck that too. Necrophilia is my fetish

>>>/cow/260673
I honestly feel bad for Jontron. He seems so nice even to the people who screw him over. Poor guy.

Kill yourself.


This is why you don't take bullshit. Ever.

Huge gaff not understanding how Banjo Kazooie characters speak.

Why should I? You kill yourself so I can tenderly fuck your corpse and cum deep inside your warm tight colon.

Ayoo, wazup Reddit bros?

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Could be worse. It could be post tornado necrophilia.

What's that mean?

****>:3

Okay, so JonTron got removed over opinions, because apparently he said something horrifying online. What exactly DID he say though? What started this?

No. Post thick kazooie

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Nothing! I said nothing!

These people are nuts. What can you expect from tinfoils who really believe the President is a racist who won because of "Russian hacking". Guess everyone before 1900 was racist too, everyone.

It doesn't even matter.

Only if it has a donger

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There's no hope for this world, people were a goddamn mistake.

Mate…

Damn I love me some sexy 5 o' clock shadow

There wouldn't happen to be something in the Grant Kirkhope GameGrumps episode that shows he has humor that isn't family friendly, would there?

I know it probably wouldn't reverse the course Playtonic is on, but it would shit things up and convert minds if there was good dirt.

This is what pisses me off the most. No way in fucking hell am I going to play this game now. Kirkhope is a traitorous bastard.

That cartoon guy wants to ride the other guy's dick, I have no idea who these faggots are.

If the past few years have taught me anything, it's that you should never trust industry vets. Especially the ones who lost their relevance over a decade ago and are now desperate to regain it. They'll do anything to get back in the spotlight no matter how many people lose faith in them.

But, just how badly do you want to shit on grant kirkhope? Think, man, he's still a good guy.

BANE?

They can't even use buzzwords right.

Kirkhope is shit and David Wise is substantially better

This is why i stopped making friends after my most trusted friend also threw me under the bus just for a couple of bucks, it amaze me how anyone will willing to throw away their friends just for their own personal gain.

I think he was just responding with bantz and doesn't appreciate the full scope of his situation. I think Grant is still salvageable

I thought they hated each other.

Wow, MovieBob is STILL trying to make himself relevant.

I always misread his name as MovieBlob.

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Not that it really matters but basically he doesn't like mass immigration and he thinks that white people have a right to preserve their culture same as any other race. Nothing particularly controversial, unless you're a mentally diseased leftist in which case Jon is literally Hitler

Most people call him that anyway

They really shot them self in the foot with this one.

Mr (1/1345) is really trying to become relevant again.

I think he's right on the nose for this one.

I smell a storm a brewin.

Or you could just go to the bank and get a charge back like people did with MN9, and then tell them to fuck themselves

Reminder that

Most banks only offer chargeback protection for 30 days. The Kikestarter ended over a year ago.

My only complaint is that he doesn't know the gibberish is how the Banjo characters speak

I always wonder what in the fuck would these people do if real hitler actually came into power, not just Donnie Jay, the guy with a jewish son in law, or the fucking Literally hitlers that say mean things they don't like, i mean straight up a guy who will actually gas kikes and try to take over europe.

We had threads on this when MN9 decided to shit on people. I think you might still be able to get one but I forget what you'd have to do

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Well, that's good if there is still some protection.

KS is such a scam. Or rather, because it's "an investment platform", it doesn't have regular consumer protections, because it's not a typical consumer transaction.

Amongst other things.

You can really just look for this online and find it pretty easily right now.

Somebody needs to start a lawsuit. It's the only way Kikestarter is ever going to learn

I thought he was trying to bait people into thinking the SJW "reported" was saying Jontron can't speak worth a shit because he's a filthy immigrant.

Grant Cuckhold is a fucking faggot. Next are they going to start SJWing for religion of peace?

Also, the salt in this thread: forums.playtonicgames.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=5255&start=60

He'd flatten them. The problem with people of our generation is they don't understand how good they really do have it. Being killed in WWII was a real prospect for a lot of people back then, but of course now GenXers and millennials get to trivialise Hitler by comparing him to people whose opinions they don't like.

If they were mass trolled by being accused of being funded by racists it would probably be pretty effective

wat

According to Holla Forums, this is a good thing. By normalizing Hitler as an icon, you introduce him and his views into the mainstream more.

Supporting tits is way more important than opposing a failed ideology that will never gain traction.

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Bob wouldn't understand that. See, he can barely support his own tits

I'm not from leftypol. I'm just not a delusional retard.
I don't think you even read the dumb shit you write. You think of a smudge of an idea and then roll with it without even thinking much further about it.
It's not a small portion of JonTron's 3 million subs, it's a small portion of JonTron's 3 million subs who would have also bought the game and who would also be willing to give up buying it because of JonTron. If I were to draw a Venn diagram of this, the portion of people that stopped buying this game would be a minuscule dot of probably less than a thousand.

Firstly you can't know this without actual data you know, figures, to back your claim up and secondly, it's not a Triple-A title. It's an indie game. A loss of a few thousand sales might be more than enough to tip it over the edge.

If they lose even 10,000 dollars to this shit it will fuck them over, I guarantee it. You know how this type of people are with money. ALL the kikestarter money is gone plus whatever they're getting elsewhere is probably being fed to them on a drip because investors and publishers aren't as stupid as kickstarter backers are.

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When the fuck did Jon fucking say people of other races are less than his race?
Dear God

I don't even care about JonTron.
It's about how Playtonic handled the situation. They could put him right the fuck back in, and I'd still be upset at them.

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Nowhere, This is the work of SJW's looking for an excuse to shit on him for having an opinion since now days is having an opinion on ANYTHING is considered a crime against nature.

do not fucking get me started, nigger.

He's not even white. They're ignoring this simple fact to justify their outrage.

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What's wrong with it? I remember it giving a decent enough rundown of common logical fallacies and examples thereof.

He looks white so that's more than enough for them
Also it doesn't matter if he's nonwhite because he obviously internalized white values!

I'm as much in the dark as you are in that respect. There's no fucking way to get actual data about this so speculation is the only way. I'm just making an educated guess that has more logic behind it than the guy I replied to, that's all.

That's also speculation. If their projected sales make up for those thousands then they're still alright.
And besides, thousands?
Someone would have to simultaneously be a fan of JonTron, right wing or at least not left wing at all, has to be someone that follows videogame news that are not posted on JonTron's channel at all, has to be interested in buying this specific game, and has to be politically inclined enough to not support the purchase of a game for political reasons or at least be a huge fucking JonTron fanboy. I'd say even thousands is a stretch.

Exactly. It's lucky he has more integrity than they do. He could easily say they're persecuting him for being Iranian and they'd look worse than they already do. But he doesn't. He's better than that

I don't want to say they're right, but they're not exactly wrong here, IIRC people are already saying the majority of Gen Z is more right leaning than people have been in decades.

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I had a dream last night it turned into GG 2.0. Anons with serious sleuthing skills need to investigate Playtonic's PR department. I smell something fishy.

As people have said here, some of them don't even care about JonTron. They'll boycott the game just because of Playtonic's shitty behaviour. Your criteria is way too narrow

I've seen that on Holla Forums but I don't hold much stock in it. We'll see when GenZ finishes university.

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Fuck this SJW pile of crap.

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It's not a misreading, it's reading between the lines.

You mean one person?

Pretty sure the numbers will still be narrow even if we're counting people who drop the game for ideological reasons like that. Specially considering that we'd also have to count the people who choose to buy the game because JonTron leaves, aka liberals that buy the game because the game designers admit to be left-wing and thus they align politically.
I'd love to be proven wrong but we gotta be realistic here. That's the problem with you fucks, you're all so caught up in your own farts that you don't see the reality before you. Pieces of shit like No Man's Sky and Overwatch sold like hot cakes in spite of the fact that everybody talks shit about those games here. Wishful thinking and reality aren't the same thing. The fact is simple, Jontron's scandal isn't big enough of a scandal to negatively impact the sales in such amounts.

Imagine you are a dev in the game right now, and you like Jon, and you disagree with all this crap, but you can't do anything and the (((community managers))) are running the show. It must suck, but it was your own fault.

It was also refunded just as fast, to the point where steam changed its refund policy for that title and even places like PSN were giving money back.

He's not the only one who shares the sentiment
That group of people is usually very small. Usually much smaller than the people currently pissed off that they removed Jon
You're not understanding, those are big Triple-A games. They've got massive budgets, massive promotional budgets and marketing that is dependent on more than just word-of-mouth. This is an indie game. It has word-of-mouth, and one of those mouths was JonTron, who they've now thrown under the bus.

Who is this, user?

The refunds were minimal compared to the sales. They were big when compared to the amount of refunds other games got, which is what got the attention of the media, but if you actually compare the sales/refunds numbers they were pretty negligible. Don't get caught up with what you read here and actually check info yourself.


Look. I'm with you on this. I don't want this game to do well.
But until you show me factual data that proves more than just one post on Holla Forums, you can't really claim anything here.

Also wishful thinking. I guess we'll see when the game's released.

Mate.

The only one that appears to not suck dick is Mark but he locked his profile. All the others are having fun blocking and mocking people

See here, No man sky only sold well due to hype but that hype backfire on them massively. A short term burst for profits but end up in a massive deficit after word of mouth got out. Let not forget the massive drop in players.

Jesus Christ. It doesn't say anywhere there that he's designed the original B&K characters.

No wonder these characters look so fucking ugly, I hated Diddy Kart's style god awful style as well. Is it just me or does it feel like rare killed itself rather than Microsoft
I remember reading that Microsoft gave them complete freedom while Nintendo kept being hardasses

Nazis are radical. If you go by what the terms actually mean then today nazis are the left wing and the right wing are the people perpetuating the dominant shitlib values

Something like that. I do get the impression that it might have been like Silicon Knights; it turned out Nintendo was smacking down their stupid ideas, while Microsoft had no idea what actually made Rare worth the money. (Was a theory that Microsoft bought and eventually gutted Rare just to deny Nintendo a quality developer)

Do you really expect the genetically bastardized left to understand this? Cmon m8

hahahaha oh my fuck, this guy is an actual developer in this piece of shit?

The way i remember it is Nintendo never truly trusted ANY of their 2nd party devs, for example, Silicone knights had tons of nintendo employees working on the MGS port and Eternal Darkness, Rare had to censor parts of conker because it featured a nintendo character they didn't want associate with that game. When Microsoft bought them out they had no idea what to do with them, and just kind of left them to their own devices, like they had done with Bungie. Though IIRC that quickly changed after their first bomb, Grabbed by the Ghoulies.

he's not part of it, he's replying to one of the devs (andy)

twitter.com/search?f=tweets&q=to:AndyPlaytonic&src=typd

Yeah, I agree their reputation as a company is already tarnished and future projects are doomed to fail.
My point is that word of mouth doesn't affect immediate sales as negatively as you think. No Man's Sky losses were minimal.

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Chris Seavor, the guy behind Conker, once related a story about a Microsoft exec who came to visit the Rare offices and saw the Donkey Kong posters everywhere and said something like 'Wow! We get Donkey Kong?'

So yeah, they really did do it just to try and gut Nintendo

Give me a good counterargument, guys.

MS just didn't know what they were doing, it wasn't actually malicious. They wanted to cover their bases and have a developer that made cutesy cartoony kid games, then casual wii sports clones when the kinect came out. If anything, it's the complete opposite, Nintendo denied themselves a good portion of rareware's library so they could deny MS their Goldeneye 007 port.

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no u

Grant Kirkhope is a nigger

It was a mixture of the two. Microsoft gave them complete freedom in the beginning but then started micromanaging. Complicating things is that a lot of people left Rare for one reason or another around that time

I can but I'm too drunk right now.

What's to counter argue? He's being a disingenuous fuck. It is censorship. Jon never said anything about non-white people tainting the gene pool (as far as I'm aware) and it's patently to obvious to anyone with eyes that Playtonic caved into SonyGAF

If JonTron isn't talking about any of his views in the game, then how is he injecting his views into it? Just by his presence?

wat

First: Jon said some retarded shit that he later apologized for; it wasn't a blatant call to exterminate the jew or anything like that otherwise they would be in their right to boot him. The media blew this out of proportion because the grudge they have against youtubers for taking the gaming public away from them. Journos are the first place devs go to when they need feedback, public is a distant second.

second: playtronic did this solely to appease the blood thirsty media, it wasn't an issue until some fag mod from neocancer decided to stir shit up and contact the devs on twitter. There was also some journo fag doing this. Playtronic is trying to fall into journos grace with this move so they can score some extra points.

Most people didn't even know he was doing this VA thing, this move was to literally virtue signal.

Even if they didn't cave in to them, their action was unnecessary and only serves to make themselves feel "less dirty" by association when in PR reality there would have been no fucking difference if JonTron was there because typically jobs are not given to people for political opinions god fucking dammit. There was no way people would think they were associated with JonTron's political opinions just because he worked with them, they were just being fucking cunts.

Who's gonna make a new thread, this is interesting

The Bioware comment comes when I made the comparison between Jontron's comments and Manveir Heer's tweets.

You, mega Satan.

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We have one

Bioware should've made an official comment distancing themselves from Manveer because they are always doing anti harassment and anti racism shit. They can't do one thing and the be silent on the other

Hey thank you pal

The worst part is the publishers both have 'Opinions are my own' on their Twitters. They don't want to be brigaded or fired for being SJW fucktards. But when Jon says something they don't like it's perfectly all right to brigade him and cut him out of the game

Honestly the point that they don't offer refunds and that they used Jon to advertise their stupid game is reason enough to consider them fucking immoral and not worthy of buying their game

First and foremost, with curry nigger, yes you could have fire him from the first tweet and got someone else. But EA is know for some penny pinching tactics, and no, it wasn't complicated it was just EA being the usual penny pinching jews, aka being lazy. But the company DID cave in, THEY could have chosen to ignore it completely, but even more so, they chose to cut a main source of advertising which was Jon and I guaranteed to you it would been free. And no, Jon never said anything about niggers being inferior it was Destiny that implied it first, as for those type of faggot they like to project, literally there was a part were that faggot suggested that Jon wanted to round up blacks and exterminate them. Never fucking mind, that the project manager are in damage control. BUT THAT WHOLE ARGUMENT IS JUST PLAYING THE LOL BOTH SIDES ARE STUPID WHILE SNIPING AT ACTUAL POINTS! ALL THEY'RE IS TRYING TO GET BROWNIE POINT FROM THOSE SHIT STAIN MONGOLOIDS AT SO FUCKING CALL GAMING PRESS NOT REALIZING THAT THERE WAY TOO MANY BRIDGE BURN AT THIS POINT.

For starters, ask for source on his claims. I haven't watched the stream but I did watch JonTron's statement (his unlisted video). A guy who's the son of immigrants and isn't even fully white would be fucking retarded to consider himself a "white supremacist" or whatever. That's where their whole narrative falls part, they're not just intellectual uncharitable, they're straight up disingenuous.

You should watch it, I don't recommend it though if you're not prepare. That Destiny guy just put words in Jon mouth but overall it a shit show. First, Jon, didn't came prepare and didn't how to handle such a sperg; but overall, that whole situation didn't hurt jon as someone would blindly point that out. I just hope that he took that as a learning experience and not a failure.

*didn't know how to handle such a sperg.

If you want to see someone who CAN handle a sperg, i recommend the Destiny vs Naked Ape stream video after, as a good contrast.

I was very close too. That N64 cart reward almost got me, but I got a few Ace Combat games instead. Funny how things work out like that. Hopefully there will be a pirated version with him in it, but I'll probably pirate anyway. No way in hell I'm going to pay for it though

Holy fuck that never bothered me before. Just… god dammit.

Aren't they butchering real N64 carts for that? Pretty sure that was the case.

Ok, that convinced me to go watch the whole stream, even if I have to suffer through Destiny

Probably. Though it was probably a bunch of unsold copies of some shovelware that nobody would ever notice is missing a few hundred copies of. I doubt they wanted to spend more than they had to on this.

I'm familiar with this practice. When people scrap old games for parts, they use the Sports games. There's millions of those and you can get them in bulk for pennies. No one misses them.

Of course, you can easily use this to your advantage and create a scare of sports game scarcity and sell them for jacked up prices.

Sure:

First of all Freedom of speech is not the 1st amendment. The founding fathers believed freedom of speech was a "natural right" for all human beings. The 1st amendment is a handcuff they put on the government to protect this right that already existed. If you don't believe the citizenry also are morally obligated to uphold it when it doesn't suit them, then you don't fucking believe it is a natural right.

Journalists are complicit in escalating Jontron's comments, no? They took what he said and made sure the masses heard the words the *journalists* chose to put into his mouth, which were their own uncharitable interpretations. Jontron would not claim that what the media said is his beliefs. This should immediately register as Kafkaesque (and if that doesn't scare the shit out of you then you too innocent for this damn world.) Maybe that's not Playtonics fault, but it is still wrong. And it Playtonic would share scorn if they suspected something like this but didn't put any effort into looking for a charitable interpretation, or outright understood the charitable interpretation but decided that they can't be the ones who argue against the outraged mobs. Those are both fucking morally abhorrent and deserved to be pointed out and publicly shamed.

Lastly, Playtonic's official statement is full of double speak. It literally says "we want to make it absolutely clear that he does not represent the views of Playtonic". But they don't actually this clear. It isn't clear to me WHAT they actual political viewpoint is - this is a deliberately slippery tactic that companies use for self-preservation. A company finds it infinitely convenient to simply say "X does not represent our view" whenever X is controversial, instead of actually expressing their view without a reference point. It also isn't clear to me what boundaries they have for disassociating with people with "viewpoints they don't agree with". Is there a list of representatives that their employees are not allowed to vote for or retweet? We don't even know if there is such a list for fan contributors. Yes, yes, any fan contributor now knows that voting for/retweeting Steven King should be avoided if you have a relationship with Playtonic and want to play it safe, but what about other republicans? Republicans are the party of immigration reform… is that itself too sensitive of a topic for Playtonic? What ways can people "have views that disagree with Playtonic" without being dissociated? TL;DR FOR THIS PART: don't fucking say "we just want to make it absolutely clear" when your views are NOT absolutely clear, and no one was going to confuse Jontron's views as being Playtonic's views at any fucking point.

Who is this piece of ass?

so, should we raid neogaf?

You can't. Sign-up procedure is designed specifically to keep people from doing that. You've got to have an email that's tied to your ISP, presumably so they can enact vengeance on you if you say something they don't like.

That almost made me buy it as well, luckily it was like $350 or so dollars so the temptation quickly faded.

I'm guessing that from now on all of Rare's old games will be shat on by Holla Forums just like Bioware's, right?

Look up dashchan, shit actually works with it.

Playtonic is not old Rare. Both Playtonic and nu Rare are pale imitations of what Rare used to be

If he weren't an obfuscating fag