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Why are trots so afraid of action? Is it because they have liberal sympathies and don't want to upset porklords?

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Because an uprising nowadays is doomed to fail due to how entrenched the private sector is. Only entryism and a coup from within is the only hope socialism has

I think I was arguing against some turd worldist who was claiming that those "people" who kidnapped and tortured that disabled man were somehow fight against their colonial "oppressors."

The sentiment may have been expressed in a liberal way but you were more or less right in the context of that thread.

Why don't trots try to stack the boards of major corporations to convert them into democratic workplaces?

why does everyone here hate Trotties?

This is exactly the fucking same as saying
the private sector will be disassembled when power is secured.

Why is the trot flag a 4????

4th International. Basically the last true communist organization.

I don't.

Neocons gave us a bad reputation.

4th dimension: time. Entryist schismatic backgammon and leaflet distribution odds of the permanent world revolution not happening will eventually reduce to zero, that's just basic math.

PS. Not pictured in chart: US foreign policy establishment.

That's a meme. Most of the original neoconservatives weren't trots and none of the current ones are.

Proofs? My understanding is that it came from an intellectual milieu that was heavily influenced by Trotskyism, Zionism and disillusioned defeatist angst after Stalin became antisemitic and aligned with Arab revolutionaries against Israel, then aligning with a bizarre sect of Evangelical eschatologists. Regardless of whether the original "movement" was solely populated with ex-Trots is irrelevant to its core founding ideological principles.

The few neocons that were trots became so during the student radicalisation in the 1960s/70s. They were just swept up in the movement.

If trots aren't related to neoconservativism then why do so many trot organizations support American imperialism?

Where's the tankie companion of "It's not about defeating capitalism"?

The only thing Trotskyists 100% support is pedophilia.

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not unique to trotskyism

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hemmingway was

Technically correct, when Mossad actually writes our checks.

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What an untrotskyist position


Gee, I wonder why the only genuinely revolutionary international tendency in the wake of Stalin has been so plagued by in-fighting and fractiousness. It's almost as if there a group out there with a lot of resources that really doesn't want to see socialism happen.

We've been over this. It's like calling the Frankfurt School or postmodernists "Marxist." Yes, the one did "inspire" the other in part, to some way of thinking, no, there's no real fidelity to the original theory.

They like to PICK their battles wisely.

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You're not far enough beyond the shattered superstructural looking glass to see how this all actually works. Join me and we can put the shards together again and cast the cold light of day back on capital.

There are class and historical reasons why "Trotsky-ism" has spawned as its intellectual legacy groups that directly oppose and disavow Trotsky's line. socialism.com/drupal-6.8/platform
Ignoring them is popular but not principled. Without a science of history we are nothing.

'p-please notice me porky-sama'

sad

Because 4 is the average membership of any given Trot group

ayyyyy

There are no commies left tbh

Stalinists hate them for obvious reasons. Most others hate them because they worry that there is not actually that big of a difference between ML and Trotskyism other than just their history.

There's also the fact that in the US at least, they have a lot of clunky, reformist parties. I can't really say much about their theory or whether or not I like them cause I don't know enough about trots to properly criticize them, but these are just the general criticisms you'll hear a lot.

It sure is easy to make someone look bad when you take things out of context.

Modern "Stalinists" (ML) don't care. With all the revisionism going, Trots are not that different from the average Maoist/LeftCom crowd.

Trots had been purged because Trotskyism became a rallying point for internal opposition in the 30s - 80 years ago.

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