If black crime rates are so high due to socio-economic conditions, why are crime rates higher among poor blacks than poor whites and hispanics?
If black crime rates are so high due to socio-economic conditions...
Samuel Garcia
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Michael Roberts
Poverty isnt equal
There is upper poverty and total poverty
Austin Williams
Socio-economic implies precisely more than just poverty (-economic); blacks, while genuinely harboring backwards inter-cultural traits, still suffer from a disproportional amount of adverse effects that still linger from the racial segregation that was not even fully abolished nation-wide (US, and really there's more than just the US) before the mid-'90s, and direct racial motivations can still be found within their persecution.
William Brooks
I don't think we know that, but let's say if we went full retard and said that this was 100% due to genetic inheritance. Would that change our stance on equal rights? No, it would not. Criminals would be sent to gulag, and over time the population would stabilize with only the upper portion of the bell curve of blacks remaining. Even in their population, criminals are a minority. If we go by this assumption, then it's only logical that those with the "crime" gene will die out over time. If that is the case, then it would explain the falling crime rates we've seen in the last 20 years. So by the time we arrive at socialism, it won't really matter.
Noah Bell
You also have to add in the fact that black neighborhoods/areas are more heavily policed and shook down than white areas. Black people are more likely to be arbitrarily arrested, stop and frisked, padded down etc. Policing everywhere is based on quantitative numbers based results, rather than qualitative necessary police work to ensure the safety of the community. Which means some areas and people are targeted just to add more names and statistics to the board.
Historically a precedent for targeting black people specifically was the continuation of slave labor under the labor provision in the 13th amendment. If you imprisoned millions of whites for profit, people would notice. If you do it to black people, native Americans and later brown people from the south that are already disenfranchised nobody cares and to the extent that they start to people make excuses for it, rather than consider that maybe just maybe another race is being treated unfairly.
Nah Tyrone is just inferior and wants to fuck my sister.
Austin Parker
Also that picture is misleading. Whites are a much much bigger part of the population and the population of blacks is much smaller in proportion. Just through sheer percentages alone they're more likely to attack outside of their race. If this was China rather than America the 13/16% of the black population would be attacking Chinese in larger numbers, simply because there wouldn't be as many other black to attack as Chinese. Seeing how much whites attack people of other races overall all other things still being unequal would be a much more interesting set of numbers. It would still be imperfect though.
I'd like know in a more egalitarian world all around in a state where the population is roughly proportional which race if either would be likely to attack the other more.
Matthew Ross
Are the crime rates equal in these respective areas? Do blacks in total poverty commit as much crime as whites in total poverty?
Austin Reed
Because on top of being poor, they are black.
Not only do you get treated like shit for being poor, you get treated like shit for being black.
Not only this, but if you are black and from the US and your family is from the US then at some point they were slaves. While the whites most likely weren't. Some of the hispanics probably were, but they have Cholos.
What this means is that while the whites may have been poor for generations, they still were allowed to maintain family and community structures, it is these which keep crime low, not prisons or police.
Black people on the other hand have had their family and community structures pillaged and destroyed systematically.
First by slavery, but then by segregation and now prison industrial complex and drug war.
Black communities at every turn have been stamped out, the Black Panthers, which provided education and community services for example.
The effective of this is societal degeneration, as networks of trust and mutual aid have been broken down.
While white people have had the effect of capitalism, they did not have the effect of the mass deracination of African Americans in the US
Alexander Brooks
Population density is linked to higher crime rates. Poor whites typically live in rural areas.
Juan Garcia
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