Idpol cringe thread

No, I said minorities.

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This is more infuriating than cringe but deserves to be posted.

You forgot your anfem flag, Holla Forums

The fact people like these are in society and have the ability to vote and have a say in society really fucking gets to me

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Is it surprising? Stormfags are the whinest cunts on the internet so it's only natural they'd attract the emo menace.

Socdems & protofascism go together like bread and butter.

In south Africa whites are the minority.

"University of London students are demanding that thinkers such as Plato, Aristotle, Voltaire, and Immanuel Kant be banned from the philosophy syllabus… because they are white."

rt.com/uk/373042-white-philosophers-students-demand/

When will SJWs just admit they're fascist?

fuck this timeline honestly

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I'm from Holla Forums and this is my first time browsing Holla Forums. I'm surprised to see that the discussion here is much more reasonable than I expected. I always imagined this board was just a bunch of tumblr-tier deeply triggering and problematic pro-degeneracy discussion, just wrapped in more layers of theoretical academic nonsense than the average normiebook user is capable of processing. On the contrary, I must admit that this board is not stupid at all. On the contrary, you're just a bunch of bright autistic individuals LARPing about idealistic political dreams. just like us

Thanks for the compliment, we appreciate it. However we still hate you guys because you constantly raid and pillage our board.

Thank you. We hope you stick around if you're interested and want to learn more about theory! There have been many former Holla Forumsacks converted here. Would you like some reading recs?

Fair enough.

What have you got? One thing I notice about this place is that it's also just as internally divided as Holla Forums, if not more so. There seems to be a lot of fighting between different kinds of leftists, though I don't know enough about the different theories or the board culture to be able to tell if it's just jokes. Are there any writers that the board almost universally agrees is good? Does everyone like Marx here?

Also, I laughed at "deeply triggering and excellent"

Cheers m8. Maybe you can lurk moar and bask in our autism as well.

Not entirely everyone likes Marx, but he does bring up some good points.

For writers I recommend Bordgia, Zizek, Bookchin, Kropotkin, Proudhon, Stirner, and in regards to more economic writers, I'd look to Richard Wolff as well as read some Anarchist economics.

ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/socialism_book/calculation_debate.pdf

You'll also know that we despise Idpol (SJWS, white nationalists, black nationalists, third wave feminists, etc).

If you want an ANARCHIST perspective as to why we hate them. Read this, and pic related

ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/socialism_book/calculation_debate.pdf

Sorry, posted wrong link

theanarchistlibrary.org/library/lupus-dragonowl-against-identity-politics

lel

It's clear you don't know shit, that's why you're rightwing in the first place

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The left have been friends of pan-africanism for a while because of the common anti-imperialist sentiments. Omali Yeshitela and clr James are prominent examples.

He implied that the theory practiced here is academic nonsense. He didn't make an out of the blue statement being all "hey, kids, there's academic nonsense out there"

I think you're the exception if you actually support it. Nationalism inevitably leads to imperialism if it is allowed to fester.

Actually he said he thought the theory practiced here was nonsense, but has since changed his mind.

That's good.

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Hollywood is art AHAHAHA. Not since the fucking 1920's it isn't.

Are you telling me that Expendables 3 and Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice aren't on the same level as Breathless?

I think people pretend to like "vintage" films just because it makes them look niche.

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Quite a few vintage films are bad tbh. I do find it funny that they're holding up porkywood as a bastion of creativity and diversity though.

quien sea chileno, entenderá cuanto cringe da esta mierda

Black leftists dont even support Marcus Garveys non-socialist panafricanism, no socialists should. If it is socialist in character though I have no issue with ethnicity being a point of solidarity as long as it doesnt eclipse proletarian solidarity.

Bob Chipman is delusional. And I used to watch MovieBob.

yeah, let's make it about their identitiy not their relation to MoP *rubs hands*

Can I advertise this on my youtube channel?

sure lol

movieblob would definitely support the Tsars

what's your youtube channel?

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It's advertise shit under the pretense that it's a review, Nerdtechcrew.co.biz.uk

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Is it idpol to be supportive of LGBT rights? I'd consider myself leftist but I'm not sure if this place is the right place for me. I'm not going to be flamed for thinking LGBT/minority rights are important when posting here?

The problem isn't thinking they're important. The problem is the hierarchy between them and class struggle. If you think they take precedent over that, reddit might be a better fit. If you think class struggle comes first leftypol it is.

You can support LGBT people and their rights to exist but don't support commercialization and corporatization of them in the media which is something liberals always try to do, they treat every "marginalized group" as their "special interest" and never adress any class issue they might have.

Some people are gonna flame you.
Some will agree with you.
This is because the whole point is that we can have an open discussion.

Btw, no I don't think LGBT rights are inherently ID-pol.
Class-politics can be ID-pol. It depends on how you handle it.

Maybe, but it's fine if you support it. I think the main objection is demanding that class/leftist issues always take a back seat to idpol, or that everyone who supports leftism MUST be pro-LGBT or else FUCK OFF sinner.

I'm LGBT myself and work for LGBT rights, just not here.

Imo, classic idpol would be "We need more gay black CEOs" or "We need a diverse president" without actually adressing what these people's policies are. That's what I call idpol, when you disregard the position of power of a person in favor of their identitiy.

top level bait my friend

tbh even though I constantly make fun of idpol and woke liberals, I actually agree with the substance of most of what they say. What pisses me off is the general anti-intellectual, shallow and degraded sort of postcolonial garbage they think makes them good allies. E.g.:

Hell, I’m a queer PoC myself and whenever I speak up about this in other lefty places, I get talked down by some white ally performatively showing me how excellent I am.

fugg forgot the wordfilter, but maybe it’s better this way

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Bitch knows nothing about squirrels, the little pests.

decimelo a mi, soy uruguayo y tengo un amigo que apoya la dictadura porque "no habia crimen"

kek

I literally never heard of this tit until after the election.

Yeah they should have just petitioned the king for civil liberties.

I now see the appeal of labor camps and firing squads

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Here's an example

All western languages

Im so confused. So is she triggered from people using the term daddy because she believe it's "her" word or is she some christfag that "only has proper sex"

How do you have non-monogamous missionary sex?

I guess you hookup with a non-regular partner and fuck someone in missionary position?

Here's the problem.

1) The western languages are bound by identification, person to person, gendered nouns, etc. Though, it depends. You have the language set so that identification breeds individuality forms politics, political theory, and so on. People express said theory, and perpetuate the flaws within the languages themselves. Western languages breed individuality, which informs life experience, day to day life even, into politics.

2) The internet is the first time we've ever created a tower of babel and languages are somewhat clashing, but most of all, we are seeing an accelerated logical conclusion of what Western languages can do to culture itself, and how it can be easily manipulated, and counter revolutionary.

If that makes any sense.

Language is far more important than most people here give it credit for.

they could at least try to act like their idpol is in any way different from that of the fascists.

That's supposed to be satire I think. They are basically taking the MRA virgin argument about how women are by nature "subhuman" and are flipping it on its head. It's basically like pic related.

i enjoyed that movie

Daily reminder that the USSR was multicultural and went out of its way to appease ethnic minorities. "Idpol" is not a distraction but an essential element of communism.

theres a big difference between purposefully cultivating a multicultural society and saying black people can do no wrong or that everything would be fixed if we just had more female cops

This is identity politics and also, something that does not happen en masse in the nice safe spaces of image boards.

I agree that this could possibly be satire, but I have heard versions of the "men are disposable" meme unironically in various political/activist circles that I've come into contact with IRL, including ones that were specifically supposed to be leftwing feminists.

Maybe the people in my area are just exceptionally shitty, but that particular line of thinking (without the words like "thuggish") has been an unsettlingly common one, and the local wobblies are the only leftist group I've personally met who have actually developed a leftist group with feminist ideals that hasn't devolved into this dumb shit.