Is there a game with no glitches whatsoever?

Is there a game with no glitches whatsoever?

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I don't think pong has any glitches

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There's no game without any glitches. Glitches are like life. Itself. It's going to happen. No matter how tight you coded. No matter how many times you assembled it. No matter who went over it. 1- 1 = 354345329453429-5 is going to happen.

The best you can hope for is that it doesn't happen shortly after your game comes out.

Even Pong and Tetris can be glitched out under the right conditions, ie tricking the computer to repeately "return" the ball to the same exact spot and messing with the loading and memory of Tetris via playing for a long time and triggering the kill screen.

We made mistakes somewehere along the way.

No programmer wants to do a bad job. Some are incompetent, but I'd guess that it's usually designers, producers, directors, and marketers that drive the MVP for a release, and programmers just have to do what they can with the limited resources they are given.

Hyper-Capitalism. Casualized Audiences. Budget cuts.

There.

Sounds fucking radical man.

fucking awesome

Berniefags pls go

Yeah. It is. Which is why games are the way they are today. Gotta meet those goals with the least effort as possible, then charge out the ass with DLC.

It's called time management, faggot.
It's something even commie shit holes abide by.

Programmers code according to their motivation.
the higher-ups have the responsibility of making you WANT to do a good job. What we have now for leaders in vidya are a cabal of hotheads whose primary drive is injecting their garbage politics in videogames instead of actually making succesful videogames. So it shouldn't be surprising the people coding aren't remotely thrilled with what they have to do now.

I like where this thread is going.

I know anons like to meme about this shit, but Hyper Capitalism is an actual thing.

Imagine you remove any kind of moral, ethic and personal values out of every aspect of society. I mean shit like assigning people a price, or determining how much it costs to burn a guy's foot for 15 minutes with a blowtorch and then paying for it.

The pre-liminary idea is that Hyper Capitalism is an evolution of the Free Market and current capitalism.
But looking at it from an evolutionary point makes it seem like a de-evolution: you essentially go back to life before sentience, where animal eats animal and the only things that matter are food (resources) and passing your genes to breed even more agressive and Hyper-Capitalistic individuals.

Devolutions are nearly always caracterized by the simplification of elements and removal of outliers.
There's a few diferent causes for this (environmental, radical shift in needs) but the main one that shows up an alarming number of times is inbreeding.

And if you think inbreeding is just Billy fucking his two sisters to get retard babies, you should read about the topic a bit.
For instance, modern "art" or, "post-modern art" like faggots like to call it these days is the product of inbreeding.
Take out the outliers, the people trying new things, or new techniques. Now get a "clique" to approve the same shit over and over again. Actively refuse new ideas, while reinforcing the lowering of standards. Shit art takes 5 minutes to make, and if that's good enough for the "clique", that's good enough for you.
Repeat for a few iterations (or just 100 years) and you get modern "art".

You can also look at democracy this way, the "political inbreeding" leads to two-party systems where the outliers are confined to 2.5% of the elector votes and neither of said two parties feels very different. Europe has a lot of this.

And the best example of Hyper-capitalism and evolutionary-inbreeding isn't even America like liberal idiots like to spout.
It's fucking Africa.
It's the country where you need to be two things:
Do you want to do anything else? Bam, murdered. No genes passed on.
Do you want to start a political system? Alright, here's what you need:
Don't have those? Bam, no political party.

And here's the funny thing: any of you guys know about Rhodesia? It's one of many african countries that were breaking the inbreeding with a healthy injection of new "genes" (read: ideas and reforms) to truly evolve the way they live.
What happened? They rejected it, went back to how they were before, and now they're retarded and starving.

That's hyper capitalism.
That's where Europe and america are headed.

Yes, because commies make video games.

Bad Rats

So, how does it feel to be a rambling pseudointellectual?

Well, this was a long-ass post with no videogames. Let me fix that.

Here's a game I played back when I was a kid. Casino Tycoon.
If you're unfamiliar with the Tycon franchise, they're simple games where you buy a piece of land, build stuff to appease costumers and get more money to buy more things and more land.
It's good fun for a few hours, but not too deep.

Now, this games are pretty good to exemplify Hyper Capitalism. See, no matter what Tycoon game you're playing (there's a ton of them), the basic gist is that your patrons have needs, and the better you serve them the more money they give you.

So in this game, the basic machine would be a slot machine. You get your cash, patron gets his fun. Easy transaction.
But then there's different avenues. There's a bar you can build for instance. It makes you LOSE money, but also fulfills another of the patron's needs. And in the long run, drunk gamblers waste more money, so you do get money after an initial loss.

In an hypercapitalistic world, there's no room for this kind of "altruistic" thinking. You can't think about losing money now to gain more later.
You either win now, or you risk losing. So the "drink" need gets eliminated in favour of easy money.
In fact, you can make your casinos a giant junkyard of old slot machines and steal make a profit. That would be a sort of inbreeding that prevents your casino from having blackjack, roulette and a host of other things.

To take it even further, later in the game you need cameras. Because when you get the card tables, people start cheating. They can't really cheat with slots, but card tables are big money and you want to ensure they don't cheat.
The first thought is that "cameras ARE hyper capitalism, since you value money over patrons!"

Now consider the theme of simplification. If you're hyper capitalistic, the cameras cost money to buy and maintain. You don't really want to shell out for something that doesn't make money, only prevents you from not winning enough.
You simply buy more tables. Even if people cheat, you're still making a buck out of the honest players.
Thus, you get a society (or rather, casino) that breads cheaters and actively punishes honest players. De-evolution.

A casino with cameras will instead apply a standard, a selection. Cheaters get kicked out and you breed a "better" type of client: one that plays fair and wastes money for you.
Even if they land a jackpot, if you supplied them with booze, they'll go back to the table and gamble it all away while enticing more players to try their luck. That's capitalism.


Lonely, depressing and I have no friends.
Pretty much how I expected it to turn out.

Well, I was gonna post this pictures to go with it, but I forgot, so they're a free bump.

Also, I recommend The Guild series. The first one is better, the second has neat shit but tons of bugs and the third is coming out.
They're good for that hyper-capitalistic simulation too.

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Nice strawman, retard.

I'll be your friend

I'll be your friend, user.
Wanna play Doom 2? I have no idea how to setup a server but I could try.

Thanks for the offer, both of you. But I don't have friends for a damn good reason, and it's either that, or taking Zombie Pills.

If you don't wanna feel bad about mocking me: I vape like all the edgy pseudo-intellectuals do. That's how I know I'm so smart.

We need to go radder

What you describe basically sounds like the result of overfeeding a neural network, a lack of new information and stimuli results in bad output. But it hadn't occured to me before that this could be applied to groups of people too. However, two things:

The two-party system is the natural result of any winner-takes all system. As soon as any one party becomes large/popular enough it becomes obvious that smaller parties can no longer compete with it, and in turn they can only stand a chance by grouping into a large competing party. Or if 2 parties simply end up being biggest, from there smaller ones are better off siding with the one that most closely adheres to their beliefs than pretending they can accomplish anything themselves. The only smaller parties that remain independent are ones with fundamental differences with the larges parties too great to reconcile, or who have a distaste for the larger parties and/or the two party system as a whole.

As bad as Africa is, there are some states/regions that are starting to get their shit together, all the savage nogs should just be bombed to make space for the nogs who are managing to accomplish anything.

Depression quest.

That still sounds pretty fucking radical man. There needs to be a game that accurately simulates warfare between two African Warlords.

OP asked for games.

What do you mean?

I was gonna talk about neural networks too, but I was already being too pretentious, and you only get to post like a smart-ass for a few lines before people get fed up with your shit.

I get your point about the "winner-takes all system", but I also consider those a variation of inbreeding.
The same standards and ideas get reinforced over and over again, and because they are the prevalent and accepted ideas, they're also the only one's that "win" and keep being propagated.
It's not exactly inbreeding like in genetics, but in large groups, the process is similar.

And that of course is the point: individuals behave in a certain way, with certain rules, but groups of people behave in very, very different patterns. Heck, you can't really say someone adheres to a pattern, everyone is rather unique and deviates forming their own "pattern".
But get 200 people together, they'll push the outliers out and form their own pattern.
Ever heard someone say "I trust people. But I don't trust The People"? This is what they mean.

Also, yeah, thank God for that, at least some places in Africa aren't shit. And some are actual black guys turning shit around. Hope they succeed.

Text games?

I wouldn't say african, but I'd love a game with a setting similar to Fallout, only instead of a retarded plot about water or your kid, it's just you running for president of the wastes.
The main obsctacle is that the electorate is better armed than you, and the "televised debates" happen at the "Blood Colosseum".
Yeah, it's radical.


Borderline Personality Disorder.
You get to pick between non-chemical treatment, which has a 50% chance of success (and by that, it means you feel the symptoms slightly less frequently) and pay out 100$ per week, or you get Zombie Pills so you block all that shit out, along with losing the ability to enjoy video games and porn.

I self-medicate with nicotine and it worked out until it started fucking up my lungs. Then vaping became a thing and my lungs aren't charcoal anymore. I still punched a "vaper" for having a ricer e-cig and boasting about a "vape tournament". The so called "vape comunity" is made of 10% guys who know parts and can give you good advice and 90% Atheism+ fedoras doing it to feel superior.

BPD just means I feel shit way too hard for way too long. When I get sad, I get fucking depressed. When I get happy, I laugh like a loony.
This affects relationships because when someone slights me, I'll handle it like that person was Brutus stabbing me in the back. And if they treat me nice, I'll get attached and treat them like battle brothers or some stupid shit.
It gets creepy and people don't want that much attention. Then they forget to return one message or two and I start seeing them as fucking pieces of shit.

Nicotine lessened that a lot, but shit's already fucked. When you go over 25 without friends, you don't really make new one's from them onwards.
It's fine though, I got anons.

Oh hey, I know people with BPD, I'm able to handle it.
Honestly user, it sounds like you're looking for a boyfriend, not friends.

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That's one of the most original ways someone has called me a faggot. 10/10.
But nah, I'm a tits guy.
I simply live in a place where most folks don't share my hobbies. I don't give squat about football and cars, and that locks me out of a lot of conversations.

Well user, I hear the recent addition to the Fallout series, Fallout 4, has managed to do away with glitches and loading screens. How great of Bethesda to provide us with the ultimate Fallout RPG experience!

Totally Radicalized and Tubular Hyper Capitalism?

What a sick world this is.

Doesn't seems so
I mean in South Africa, the ANC is still getting votes, that doesn't seem to indicate any changes in that shithole

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The closest we'll realistically get to bug-free vidya is games written in Ada or Rust by competent programmers, but even that wouldn't completely eliminate any chance of bugs.

It's still shilling, even if you're being ironic.

Wrong.
Correct.

Not impossible, highly unlikely. I'd say no but you can write simple games like chess with binaries that are 700 bytes big. I'm sure someone made some extremely simplistic thing that's glitch-proof.

Who would have thought?

even God doesn't know all the answers. he's as lost as the rest of us.

Oh, so like gay people.

Not made by Bethesda there isn't.

Gay people may be a form of overpopulation response.
Incidentally guess how many gay people are in New York and San Fran despite only being about ~7-8% of the population

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That number gets bigger every time I see someone say it.

1%? 2% isn't that big a percentage of the population, goy. Why on Earth are you afraid of only 5%? Just stop being so bigoted, it's not like 8% of the population is anything to worry about.

but its not a glitch???

Well I fucked it up by mixing up the percent in San Francisco as the one for america entirely.
My B. It's like 1.2%

It's about 3.5% according to CDC.

Yeah, I'm unconvinced of the CDC's ability to report honestly.

I mean if the 1.2% you pulled out of nowhere makes you feel better, sure.

Fair enough, other sources seem to confirm at least a similar number with ~1% of margin of error.

Are bomberman and dig dug bug free? I never encountered one. Also most graphic adventure games like say, indiana jones and the fate of Atlantis

Ubisoft could fix that.. ;'^)

Glitches will always happen because sometimes even the hardware will degrade or anomalies will occur due to the quantum nature of electronic equipment. Even if it's perfectly coded if you have a surge through your CPU or something tunnels through and messes the machine code up it will produce a glitch.

It's only shilling if you're too stupid to realize it's a joke…

Writing and quests:
Fallout 1 > Fallout 2 >>>>>> New Vegas > Fallout 3 > Fallout 4

Gameplay:
Fallout 4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fallout 3 = New Vegas > Fallout 2 > Fallout 1

My fucking life is a glitch. My dad straight up told me the condom broke. I shouldn't be here. In most universes, I wouldn't be here. I wouldn't have to deal with being a fucking NEET with eternal no GF, shitty videogame taste this gay fucking imageboard has hotwired my mind to like so I can't make normal friends, or the constant depression and my never ending anxiety of death.
I wouldn't have it any other way.

Be a christian, user.

I was browsing /christian/ when you posted this and in fact browse it regularly

but I'm a Protty

Literally a Jewish invention, friendo.

A short game like You Have To Cut The Rope?

the PS2 versions of SH2 & 3 were virtually glitch-free

the same can't be said for the PC ports (webm related) or the horrendous HD Collection

But the ps2 versions looked awful and had huge amounts of slow-down + blurring effect. Worse you could say about the SH2 xbox is that instead of the slow down it has frame drops when running through silent hill.

Never encountered collision bugs in SH3 pc.

Go get your eyes checked.

I'm pretty sure you're thinking of the HD Collection, the PS2 versions were fine.

I think you should. If you think the ps2 version of ANYTHING looks better than the xbox or PC version you would have to be blind.

Never said they look better than anything else, but Silent Hill 2 & 3 are the best looking games on the PS2 and still look good to this day on the PS2.

They look good but best looking game on PS2 is still MGS2.

That I can agree with.

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Gnarly!

On the subject, are there any games where glitches (unintentionally) improves the game?
I vaguely recall that FEAR had a specific glitch with NPC A.I. that made them better at fighting you and the developers decided to keep it in the game. I'm not sure if it's true or what I posted is accurate though.

Spoken like a non-CSCI "developer" faggot. I'm a programmer. In my career I've written many programs for mainframe systems that do not have errors. I've also made programming mistakes that lead to errors in production.

Since I'm competent I take ownership of my mistakes because to err is human. I actually hate pieces of fucking shit like you that "develop code" that "has glitches". You're the same pieces of shit spoiled brat faggots that blame everything that goes wrong in your entire life on someone besides yourself.

You mean shit-tier ports "coded" by "developers" such as yourself? I worked in an arcade for 2 years as a teenager, back when games were programmed by actual programmers. Before the days of software revision ROMs (mostly from Midway-Bally, and CRAPCOM) the software of the 80s arcade games were breddy vuggin zolid.

We had a local autist that could reset Ms. Pac-Man on one $.25 arcade token. I wouldn't even consider that a programming error, but more a limitation of the hardware: completing level 255 returned the program to the initilization state.

tl;dr:
KILL YOURSELF NEET FAGGOT APP DEV

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You're fucking retarded.
Older games had less glitches because they were much simpler. It's harder to have glitches in a small codebase than in a huge, complex as fuck codebase that modern games have nowadays.
Sure, the fact that they're rushed and companies' quality control isn't the best helps but those are not the only factors. When you have gigantic projects like that where a lot of different people with different coding styles work together, that kind of stuff is bound to happen.

I can accept some glitches when the game is actually good. But thlse dragons where just plain shit and lazyness.

What's with le snarky sage meme on this board? I've never seen it this much on half chan.

To add to that, older games were also made from the ground up by the devs (up until 5th gen) nowadays most of what's in the game is 3rd party code that the dev doesn't have actual control over and might simply decide to fuck things up, physics middleware in particular is very prone to glitches.

>Okay now go. Subtle. Subtle…
>THE WORKING CLASS IS EXPLOITED BY THE PROLETARIAT

Skyrim is shit, fuck you

Nobody here said it was good so stop being ass blasted. le bump for your le sage memay XD

Alright

thank

I bet you're cute.

Yeah. Using third party libraries or frameworks is a double edged sword. On the hand, when a bug is found, it's found in every game that uses it, and most of the time you can't fix it in your game and have to wait for the upstream devs to release a fix.
On the other, it also means that the code is shared among many people, which means there's a higher incentive to fix it and keep it stable and more "eyes" looking over that code.

You have to go back.

A high majority of the quality games from before 1995 had very few or no bugs.
There was no internet distribution of patches, and if a game came out with noticeable bugs at the time, it was heavily ridiculed in the magazines, leading to a significant loss of sales.

People considered bugged games to be unfinished.

Quake 1 was the game changer, with patch after patch being released. The other games followed suit.
Even after some years, patches were unusual, a game that was built using the quake 1 engine, Sin, posted out a physical copy of the patch on a cd as it was 120mb and unfeasible to download at the time.

Not true.
It depends on the programmer sealing all the holes.
As for 'tricking' the AI - that is a limitation, not a glitch.

Computer games are not like life itself, as they have been created by a man, with his imagination and in a logical form.
Same as any programming, done carefully enough, there are no holes in the system.

If it is bad quality work, there will be holes. That is the human element.
Not all humans are created equal.

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You've posted the most ebin maymay of the whole thread, leftycuck.
Tell us, what's the difference between capitalism and hyper-capitalism?

Gay culture is a form of male hypersexuality that's promoted by the STDs themselves.

Just like toxoplasma which infamously causes rats to chase after cat urine's smell, STDs induce individuals to promiscuity for better spread of the infection (bugchasing). No sexually transmitted epidemic would happen with a normal population's behaviour: it requires an improved sexual drive.

And it thrives in male majority enviroments, simply because these are the most forward with sexual habits. Neither lesbian or hetero relationships would spread STDs at the same rate.

It's a form of strawmanning, leftism thrives on redefining speech to keep their acolytes controlled. They add "hyper" to exaggerate ideas that wouldn't otherwhise be felt extreme enough, or add "new" (neo-liberism, neo-conservatism) to pretend the traditional form is already dead.

A leftist is made of 2 elements, the holy furor of being told they're good and right, and the awe of following an enlightened leader they can't possibly compete with.

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This. We need socialism to return video games to their former greatness. Also we need to castrate all the whites and abort all white babies.

I want lefty pol to get banned

Both Holla Forums and Holla Forums need banned.

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We /liberty/ now

wat

b-b-b-b-b-but it was done correctly in Venezuela!

I sincerely doubt that there's any program that is truly glitch-free.
That said, you can code something well enough that glitches are neither common nor too intrusive.


Not banned, just taught to keep their hateboners in their pants or on their boards instead of trying to engage a circlejerk out here.

What did the commie use before candles?
LIGHTBULBS

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Consider that society has been portraying promiscuity as a good thing for quite some time now. I think it is silly to pin the cause of that on STDs. Indeed, I think that the current acceptability of being loose with your holes is a big cause for the spread of STDs today and not just in the gay community.

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That's actually pretty good.

t. Varg

I don't get it.

Communism is a regressive ideology that only pulls the humanity back instead of forward. So before a country adopted communism, it had a perfectly good electrical grid and plenty of potatoes. After adopting communism, it was left with candles and secret police.
I may be wrong

S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
It's filled with anomalies instead.

My favorite one is the one that closes the game to desktop. Those wacky anomalies, it's always a riot.

They look fine, faggot. You can emulate at higher resolutions, anyhow.

VENEZUELA WAS NOT REAL COMMUNISM

Seriously. Communism works. Stop spreading disinfo Holla Forumsyp shilltards, reported.

You're laying it on way too thick

I know you're joking but I just want to note that "communism has never been tried before" is pretty much the same thing as saying "X aren't REAL muslims", leftists really have a thing for denying what something truly is to justify their ideology.

Hyper capitalism as opposed to what? The poster you replied to said glitches are part of life, just like values are a part of life, some are better, some are worse : values. So are you saying you can erase glitches if we listen to your idealized theories that only work in your head and that we might just kill a few hundred millions of our own brethren in the process to then revert back to a bent form of capitalism with either A. Mafia rule like Russia or B. Human ants with an oligarchy 1984-style ruling like China.

They don't believe that human races are real and then proceed to laugh at people who believe that the Earth is 6000 years old.

Leftism is caused by :
1. Low self-esteem
2. Over-socialization

Both are more common in urban areas and in art, manual workers are less likely to be leftist than a designer, because a manual worker works an honest job with his hands, putting his self-esteem at a normal level, while a designer does nothing much with his hands, often lies, pretend to work, wish he had more power, wish he didn't have to put his imagination to the service of others, doubt his work, then lie to himself as well. A weekend cutting wood would give that type of person the idea of what is normal level of self-esteem.

> Judaism, what else?

wew

Chrono Trigger.

Oh I get it now. I'm retarded.

I think it is good

Goat Simulator
They're not glitches. They're features.

chronocompendium.com/Term/Glitches_(Chrono_Trigger).html

Hotheads you say?

those are the same thing, you're thinking of bourgeois, you dunce.

I thought working class were the petite-bourgeoisie and the proletariat were retards who sat around complaining about people who work

super mario 64

faggot

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Hey user how important do you think structure is to a programmer? Ie testing tools, QA process, peer review is to bug free programming? Can a programmer make gud code without it?