Whats the most communist anime? Is it kill la kill?

Whats the most communist anime? Is it kill la kill?

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Never watched it but I know it has some great r34

TTGL has the most leftist themes of any anime I've seen so far.

Perhaps the most important is the narrative structure. In most stories, anime included, the heroes are the defenders of the status quo. It's the villains that are attempting to enact some change in the world (albeit usually for the worse). Villains act, heroes react.

This is completely flipped on it's head in TTGL. The villains are the great enforcers of the status quo, while the heroes fight to dethrone them, dismantle their system and establish a new order.

Akame ga Kill is pretty explicitly about communist revolutionaries fighting an imperialist capitalist state and fascists.

I didnt see Kill la Kill as communist whatsoever. The students are ruled by a fashionable bourgeois the entire time. And its not a revolution of the plebs that take place, its a revenge plot

This was much more communist than Kill la Kill

Did you guys forget Drifters?
They go around a kingdom ruled by literally Hitler and free all of the workers from their factories in order to rise up against the fascist government and seize control of the nation

you havent really understood the anime if you think they do it for the people's sake.

This is actually probably the most important thing about TTGL and I'm suprised I've never seen it brought up when people talk about how it's a leftist anime. I guess I'll go ahead and list other reasons it's leftist so that maybe it'll push people over the edge to go watch it. Also it's just a good show in general.

Nope.

AKIRA

What are you, a pervert?

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Anything by Miyazaki in general.
However keep in mind Miyazaki has lost faith in humanity as a whole, starting from his own son.
His point of view is currently hopeless (he's basically becoming old and tired, in my opinion).

Miyazaki is an idpol liberal

Just like me.

nice spooks faggot

Harsh, and i don't know if that's warranted.

Then die and pass on the torch.
Your despair must make space for new hope.

Most of Mamoru Oshii's stuff is pretty lefty.

Still think the television series was best though.

Watch Psycho-Pass.
The first season, and ONLY the first season (also the movie, but the movie is mostly a dumb action focused story).

It's not the best shit ever made or anything, but it's competent.
And it's an interesting take on "what kind of society is a perfect society" conundrum.
It's kinda dumb at times but still a fun watch.

This thread is starting to make me wish there was a place we could talk about anime (and video games) where people aren't batshit insane.
/a/ and Holla Forums are firmly Holla Forums territory so you can't have a normal discussion about this shit like in this thread.
I guess i'm just nostalgic about ancient 4chan when it pretty much was like this and most people were still level headed.

why is almost all anime absolute shit, while japanese cinema is amazing

Because of the target audience.
Weebs and Otakus are fucking retards and they love trash and only trash.

planetes is very good.

Because cinema is a longer existing medium, and has a longer history and criticism attached to it compared to animation. There's certain anime, and manga that could never be adapted to a film, just as there's certain literature that can't be adapted to film as it would ruin it.

Target audience.
Anime is manifactured as a form of entertainment that has as it's main two audiences:

-fat otakus with no life that will buy anything that has pantyshots
-depressed salarymen that come back home from 23 hours massacring jobs that just want to shut off their brain and watch cute girls do cute things for half an hour and forget about their miserable life

None of them. Anime was invented during the ongoing American occupation of Japan. They're all solely made to make capital. The earliest emulated American cartoons, specifically those made by the oligarch himself, Walt Disney. Say what you will about the terrible dictatorship prior to the occupation, they at least had some culture, rather than the new Porky-manufactured lies they live.

You have to explain what identitarian sentiments he holds, or else you're just using that as a buzzword.

First season of Psycho-pass ultimately comes to a lukewarm liberal/reformist conclusion though. The revolutionary antagonists are never exonerated and the protagonist approaches confronts the god-machine with the proposal of essentially "wait it out a while before potentially turning against humanity."

It was refreshing to see Saiga as a deception of anarchism beyond your typical "SMASH AND RIOT" types though, even if it was only for a moment. It's a shame that much of that independent character of him was written away when the had him voluntarily locked away in a state-run isolation facility for the second season.

The movie expands on the idea that EVERYWHERE OUTSIDE JAPAN it's a goddamn war torn hellhole of fractured nations and war tribes shredding each other to pieces.
Thus, it enforces the position of the protagonist.
"You're not an infallible system and i hate your guts, but you're the best we've got right now".
I ended up liking Akane.
I hated her at first, but in the end she's surprisingly cool headed, rational, and has really good motivations for her actions and beliefs.

Saiga was definitely an excellent character and one of the best "politically involved" characters in anime in years (there aren't many of them to begin with).

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Where might one start to get into Japanese cinema? I can't even name any.

Provide proof.

If you go by production instead of plot it would be Gundam. Much of the staff are Socialists.

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Thank you.

Then after you're done with the babby shit you watch these.

-watch them alone
-if you watch them with people that you don't completely trust be prepared to the possibility that you will alienate them forever

Planetes is the most WOKE.

this, oddly enough

how

This, planet's is a mandatory watch.
I don't give a funk you faggot, you used to get banned on /a/ for hating it, and it was one of moots favourites. Alternatively read the Manga since it's vastly superior

he's a marxist

Don't spout that like it means anything tho.
Moot just had average taste even at his prime.
Not saying it's bad, just saying moot has never been a reliable indicator of what's good and bad in terms of anything.

My does no one in these threads ever mention Akumetsu?

Is there an anime version? Looks like there is shoot em up scenes.

He did like the best waifu.

I will find out where you live and murder you in your sleep.

It's kinda edgy.
I mean, you're technically not wrong, it could belong here, but it's incredibly low brow, basically for manchildren.

No competition really.

I know, but moot was more weeb than the rest of /a/, or at least used to be.

asuka is a champion of the proletariat.

Ol' Kaw is outdated.
Update your version.

quality analysis
okay, kinda short and shallowish "look guise this is a thing!"
AAAAAAHHHHHH
I fucking hate reddit.

C'mon, man.
Tokyo Story is neat.

I personally hate "realism" in cinema so he didn't come to mind at all. I mean he is good at what he does, but I just don't like it at all.

So much of this "communism is great on paper but it doens't work in real life beacuse people are greedy", all highly upvoted. Just kill me now.

Saiga does a good job explaining anarchism as a basic concept but then goes against his own ideals when he helps figure out Makishima's plan to break Sybil and end the current ruling order. Akane has her justifications but so does Makishima, as he is able to have an outside view of the society under Sybil and comes to hate it, even rejecting immortality in the Sybil System to destroy the current ruling power. Makishima seems more of a Nechayev style character who gives his life for revolution

Faggots.

Reddit is normalfag central and places like /r/socialism are controlled opposition.

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GitS movie and SAC are still among the best animu I've seen.

shit like this makes me feel like a brainlet, I hate how I can't pick up on things like this in literature and cinema.

Not to mention the MC is a qt

One Piece. They literally promote nothing but Anarcho-Communism, freedom, and taking money so others can benefit.

Did you watch film gold?

That was woke af

As much as I like one piece i won't consider truly socialist until we find out dragons real motivations

Do you guys agree with this image? Was Amon really a communist?


I feel you, user, I really wish we had a left-oriented anime/manga board/forum.


If you like the Dollars Trilogy from Sergio Leone, watch Yojimbo. He was the inspiration for Blondie/Manco/Joe.

Amon was equivalent to a no gf nazi.

Replace benders with jews

Based on your ideology, anything could be either communist, fascist, feminist, and so on and so on.

Why are Japanese anime studios such porkies when it comes to their animators and workers?

Either from making them work 90 hour weeks so they can hit their deadline, to outsourcing shit to Korea, god it sounds like hell on earth to work on anime

It's because nips are the ultimate bourgeois.

They all believe in that respect to elders honor to famiry crap. They beat their children.

They beat their children with canes and force them to sit in the lotus position from the time they are infants.

It's a great example of porky using passion to exploit the workers. I mean is there any other industry that forces potential employees to fucking pay to work at the office? Because that's what many animation studios do for their animators?

This is why western Marxism doesn't work very well in the east.

Holy shit

Holla Forums or 4chan?
Holla Forums is indeed lost, for example, shit like this >>>/a/605399 would be shouted down on 4chan.
There is some level of resistance on 4chan /a/ and even Holla Forums to a point, especially after what happened to modcat.
The bigger issue with 4/a/ is that discussion quality is on the shitter outside certain seasonal series, and those tend to 404 relatively fast.

confuscianism is just as bad as feudalism.

who the hell do you think he is ?

Basically that's what the creators were trying to get across, but the analogies fall flat in a lot of regards.

Amon is probably supposed to be a communist leader: at the very least he is a revolutionary egalitarian. "Benders" and "bourgeoisie" aren't really synonymous though; you can't become or cease to become a bender through means built into the system itself (minus lion-turtle nonsense or the new benders popping up in seasons 2/3). In that way, it's more akin to old nobility where either you're born into it or you're not, and your potential place in society is dictated by this birthright. It's still a class conflict, but not the one central to modern communist movements. Also Amon's prime ally was literally one of the biggest industrialists in Republic City, and it was uncertain what his plans were if his revolution was successful.

Season two as theocracy only partially works. Theocracy in the real world is when religious institutions rule as political stand-ins for god(s), but in this case there were neither institutions that were primed to rule nor was it supposed to be a stand-in: the god-like entity was unquestionably present in the affair. The human antagonist (I forget his name) basically just wanted to unleash a chaos god onto the world along with all the corrupted spirits that followed it with no real plans as to the systemic ramifications to such actions.

Season three's antags were anarchistic, but airing more so on a weird position where it was simultaneously nihilistic and mystic in nature. The rejection of the old authorities that ruled the Earth Kingdom for example was not necessarily motivated out of any sort of self-interest, but rather as part of a larger rejection of worldly control and rejection of obsession with the materialistic. It could almost be described as a non-pacifistic anarcho-Buddhism.

Season four as fascism works pretty well. The only thing is that it implied there was a large multi-national effort to suppress the new regime shortly after coming to power, which is not historically accurate. Additionally, it portrays the capitalists that supported the regime's rise to power as being subsequently enslaved by the new state's authority, which was again not historically accurate.

you know they're not comparable right

They aren't but I can compare the harm they cause to society to one another

Almost all of the antagonists in that series are strawman of their actual ideologies. Amon's ideology was nothing like communism, unless you already hold the opinion that the rich are rich because they are genetically superior.

Anarchist guy was too much "chaos lol" and not enough anarchism. He was pretty based though.