are they /ourguys/ or fascists?
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Adrian Roberts
Culturally much close to fascism. The supposed veil of irony on NSK doesn't extend very far.
Dylan Hernandez
I have been a fan of their music for a long time and the only thing about them that I know for certain is that they are anti totalitarians.
I like this song better.
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And this anti war song is great.
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Joseph Miller
"We are fascists as much as Hitler was a painter"
Turns out Laibach are at best mediocre fascists
Colton Johnson
If they're fascist, then David Bowie must have been a Nazi after all.
Brayden Gonzalez
Laibach's totalitarian-chic aesthetics are satirical, they've been rather unambiguous about it… especially for a post-industrial band. Artists from that scene tend to love perpetuating uncertainty about their political stance, though some undeniably are actual Fascists.
David Thompson
They're Nazbol.
Joseph Barnes
Why in fuck did they choose Laibach to play in the DPRK?
Isaiah Wright
Fascists performing in a fascist nation.
Wyatt Bailey
/ourguy/ general?
Jayden Powell
It's all in fun really. They use iconography of both ideologies.
Daniel Stewart
DPRK is a satire country
Henry White
Wow almost no sniffing in that first video.
Ryder Kelly
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Bentley Ortiz
/ourguys/, but any farce could be(come) real if it's repeated enough times. There's an analysis of Laibach's ideology by Zizek:
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and how it's, similar to Rammstein, very much about cynicizing ideology through a merging of its apparent opposites. Nothing inherently X or Y in this, if you think about it.
Ryan Johnson
Hehe
Logan Gomez
wrong Rammstein is similar to Laibach not the other way around.
But otherwise they are more concerned with aesthetic than actual politicsas a band, apart from the subversion of everything.
That being said, their live preformance can be quite horrifiying, it is you who becomes a fascist aestheticaly , because going with the flow and the atmosphere you have 1000 people stomping in unison to their songs, an that is quite an exhilirating experience. But otherwise their fascism expands only to aesthetic.
As for their actual politics of their members, some have stated that they are basically anarchist.
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William Anderson
Nice fucking liberal ideology you got there.
Camden Rivera
holy fucking shit that edge of yours, have you been to any of their live shows? Pardon me for not being a native speaker and not finding correct words that dont trigger your fucking sensibilities.
Henry Morales
Yes I have, and unity is not fascism. Also, not an excuse, im not a native speaker either.
Ethan Phillips
Yes it is fucking fascist
fuck off
Asher Cooper
No you fuck off you fucking moron. I will not let you claim things as "fascism only". Fascism stole almost all its superficial elements from the workers movements, including the rallies, song and unity.
Adam Nelson
LIFE IS LIFE
Logan Martin
If you have ever seen a video of Nazi marches, you will notice the similarities.
Leo Phillips
If you have ever seen a video of any march you will see the similarities, you autistic piece of shit.
Elijah Walker
Mate, I don't know about you, but marching in columns and praising the country and its leaders doesn't scream "socialism" to me.
Fascist marches and socialist rallies have some similarities, though, regarding the whole "unity" thing as you mentioned before. But where in a socialist rally the purpose is to feel a sense of unity for the common struggle, that we are all here fighting Capitalism, a fascist march is about feeling unity with the nation. Laibach borrows this second aesthetic.
Brayden Price
Thats exactly what happened in the USSR, china etc etc, and even the anarchists did it in catalonia.
Leo Jackson
So forming a cult of personality around your leaders is socialism?
Angel Martin
You cant get more fascist than this. Its about time /left/ condems all these totalitarian goverments and support only democratic forms of goverments.
Brody Gomez
So we should condemn the governments we live under and support the only truly democratic form of government (socialism). Already on it.
Xavier Williams
That's just plain retarded.
Blake White
It's about time that Napoleon condemns all these Jacobins and support only feudalist forms of governments.