Which is worst, anarchism, Marxism-Leninism, or social democracy?

Which is worst, anarchism, Marxism-Leninism, or social democracy?

Don't you dare use him like that, Fascist scum.

Both are worse.

Well, as you know, Stalin was the worst Stalinist, just as Marx wasnt' a Marxist and Mao was the worst Maoist.

Social democracy, obviously.

Anarchism, obviously.

Social democracy is by far the worst, unless by anarchism you mean ancapism or idpol anarchism or by MLism you mean the retards who defend DPRK.

Why you dislike the DPRK so much? If it was that bad, then why doesn't the people start massive riots?

so all MLs

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Anarchism is the most likely to collapse because there no existing power who will back it and anarchists aren't going to institute capitalism.

ML stands a better chance of lasting, but still not very good. However it's likely to morph into capitalism out of convenience and will likely result in "Socialism with Chinese characteristics" or fail and give us another Putin.

Social Democracy is the most likely to be established but will never result in socialism and will be reformed away.

Ahhh you trust what the porky media tells you about the DPRK. So it's pointless to continue this conversation.

MLs.

Social Democracy is the worst, because it is capitalism.

Marxism-Leninism, obviously.

I would distinguish between maotism and leninism.

Why?

Social democracy because it isn't socialist.

but so is marxism-leninism

Social democracy is the worst in theory, but in practice has been better than Marxism-Leninism

But social democracy has only been tried in rich countries and Marxism-Leninism has only been tried in poor countries, so we don't really know

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socdem

Anarchism because MLism and social democracy are actually possible

This.

Liberalism is the worst.

Whether SocDem or Anarchism is next is highly situational.

It's a temporary setback. Still 1.5 billion people more than a century before that.

Technically, it's Dengist revisionism that China is running on. Lenin's NEP (MarkSoc) was a temporary measure, not permanent. However, China is not growing out of it, but going more and more Capitalist instead.

What practice are you talking about? It ended up with Fascism in many - if not most - nations.

Socdems fucked up my country, so no it is not possible. Social democracy always ends with corruption everywhere.

*ein mutterficken

I didn't say good but at least it didn't result in a fascist invasion

They're all worse!

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I'm a market socialist, I'd hardly call that neutral.

Also
wut?

Such as with Russia.
The Bolsheviks were social democrats, after all.

marxism-leninism

Sorry, I don't have the original.

Not in a modern sense.

There wasn't any other name for them to use. There were only Anarchists and SocDem until Bolsheviks created Third International and started calling themselves Communist - so as to distance themselves from SocDem.

If you dont recognize the DPRK(known in the west as North Korea but thats not the name of the fucking country) as a socialist nation struggling against imperialism and injustice since the fucking 40s then fuck you. How the fuck do any of you anti-DPRK people get off saying that Socialist Korea isnt true leftist? Seriously, i would love for you to go to an 80 year old woman who served as a guerrilla against the Japanese and US imperialist that the nation she sacrificex her LIFE to build is not a true leftist. I would love for you to go to somebody who survived on Tree bark during the Arduous March of the 1990s that their defiance in the face of inperialist strangulation doesnt count as socialist construction or being a leftist. Seriously, fuck you and your western liberal bullshit "standards."

copypasta from facebook I don't have a real opinion on them

M-L

Literally a butchery of Marxism that has set the left back hundreds of years with its pretentious autism

At least anarkids and succdems mean well

They're the same thing

wow, sounds pretty horrific! got any scraps of evidence there piggy?

I have to go with anarchoball on this one… I love you Rosa

All of them are the product of capitalism, into the trash they go.

the last two because they're still forms of production that rely on capital and the state and will never ever lead to freedom and will cause the species to mutate into an abomination unworthy of life

good meme

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What's the difference?

M/L < SocDem < AnCom

Social democrats by a long shot.

Never forget.

Blood in blood out, pussy

All o' this. I'll take a dankie over a succ dem any day.

Okay.

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laughing out loud

"realistic pragmatism"?

That's a funny way to say selling out the workers

So actively "accelerating" (building) ultra-capitalism to bring about your orgiastic end times resolution of all contradictions which will spontaneously erupt into a society based on needs is considered leftism, yet trying to work within what appears possible to eventually have enough socialization that socialism is possible, is some kind of deep betrayal? Funny that the liberal universities peddle this out right to all the lefty edgelords, while you crypto-shilled for neoliberalism with your all or nothing posturing and muh multiculturalism shit, while at the same time half assed crying about it dismantling national sovereignity and labor unions? How odd, considering one of the primary functions of all institutions under capitalism is to reproduce it. Seems you are the propagandists. Considering 99% of you will flake out when you "grow up" and get a job, or are just pure state-dependant parasitical "anarchists" who merely thrive on being edgy and having weird sex after eating out a literal trashcan at the vegan nacho stall outside the punk show?

What kind of retarded shit were you reading?

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I'd distinguish Deng reforms from both Maoism and Marxism Leninism.

i thought China and vietnam didn't get along well