So, has Firaxis made this not a total mess yet?

So, has Firaxis made this not a total mess yet?
Or are we still better off with OpenXcom?

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new xcoms are trash, the management aspect is just kinda tacked on, no depth.

Xenonauts 2 when

Just play Xcom instead of that trash.

That's a given, but we at least had the promise of being able to jihad xenos in this.
Does the game actually feel like a guerilla campaign now?

wait a bit more

But I've already played X piratez loads of times and I like the expanded airgame

LW2 helps a bit but generally XCOM2 is still bad.

OpenXcom will always be the go to game, but NuCom2 can still be enjoyable, especially with mods.

It's buggy. I played this last month for the first time and I was shooting and being shot through ceilings, getting overwatch shots that didn't make sense, or sometimes wouldn't be able to move at all. I don't know anything about Long War 2, but maybe that fixes a bunch of these things.

It's always been good, for what it is. If you're expecting X-Com from XCOM, then you're an idiot. The difference the hyphen makes is like day and night.

XENONAUTS-2 DEMO ON GOG, GET IN HERE
gog.com/game/xenonauts_2_demo

Still has shit optimization, still has front-loaded difficulty and still has hidden variables for accuracy(without the mod, that is). Forget about it

This game is fucking impressive.
They really fucked up.

You're just baiting for snek lewds, aren't you?

HARAM

Is XCOM 2 good yet, by the way?
When I pirated it, it was a glitchy pile of trash, what also had massively less content than the prior game.

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I wanted to like XCOM 2, but it wouldn't let me.

Seconded. Older X-Com is a different beast.

If you enjoyed XCOM as a guilty pleasure, would you enjoy XCOM 2? Or, is it like saying "If you like shit, you'll enjoy this other kind of shit!" (I.e. the strategic and QA quality is so poor that it's hard to imagine why anyone would like either)

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fuck all commie cats

Are you suggesting how duplicate threads that invite console war tier shitflinging deserve any better?

In fact, more important question;
If you enjoyed XCOM, would you enjoy Xenonaughts? I'd play the demo for it, but I'm on a shit-tier computer right now.

Yeah, its more streamlined than the OG, but still more enjoyable and less casual than NuCom2 which barely has any management options.

I just really didn't like the artistic direction of Xenonauts and ended up never getting it because I completely forgot about it and had no drive to play it. Hope nerds like you will keep me updated on the second one to see if the artistic direction is better.

I think I also remember something bad about the UI or menus in Xenonauts?

Personally, I didn't much care for it. Was basically the original games, but a fair bit worse, at least in my mind.

I'll keep asking this question until I get a proper answer

DID THEY EVER FIX THE BROKEN ASS OPTIMIZATION THAT THIS GAME HAS?

Xenonauts also has no psionics.

Why would you even want to play this shitty game?

Never really cared for those anyway.

WE

I don't know, the game is passable, but it's not really groundbreaking or terrible.
The game gives the impression of a modded version of enemy within with some stuff like meld removed and replaced with timers, and other things like balance changes such as sharpshooters being nerfed into irrelevance, whereas heavies are now able to singlehandedly wipe out pods, and the air game being removed or changed into having a mobile base which seems pretty irrelevant and doesn't seem to involve any sort of tactics whatsoever, and other than that there's not much to talk about.

The mods of XCOM 2 are kinda lacklustre for what was being advertised and I've found myself simply downloading cosmetic soldier modifications and map enhancements to add some well needed variation to the game, and left it at that as every other mod seems to add shitty weapons, half assed voice packs or soldier skins, or remove timers to make the game even more easy.
Maybe long war 2 fixes some stuff and hopefully performs some balance changes like making sharpshooters actually valuable to take on any mission ever, but from the last time I looked at it, a lot of stuff appeared to be broken and I didn't fancy dealing with it.

A little bit. It's still not worth playing over Long War for EW. I did beat XCOM2 (pirated) but only because I put my friends in and wanted to end the game with them
The game is not only sub-par technically, its balance is completely broken. Grenadiers are OP as fuck. Pistol sharpshooters are almost objectively better than snipers (at least until In The Zone). Blade rangers are much more niche than shotgun rangers. Specialists are the only class that feels balanced. Oh, and psi-operatives are RIDICULOUS.

Basically, the game is too fucking easy even on higher difficulties. Timers are annoying as fuck and the only significant threat in many missions.

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